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Trump to sign cyber security order
Trump to sign cyber security order
IBM 1970s
Trump, Wall Street and the "banking caucus" ready to rip apart Dodd-Frank
OT: Trump Moves to Roll Back Obama-Era Financial Regulations
Trump to sign cyber security order
OT: Trump Moves to Roll Back Obama-Era Financial Regulations
OT: Trump Moves to Roll Back Obama-Era Financial Regulations
BSAM vs QSAM
The ICL 2900
IBM 1970s
Trump to sign cyber security order
Trump to sign cyber security order
Trump to sign cyber security order
Trump to sign cyber security order
Trump to sign cyber security order
Trump to sign cyber security order
Trump to sign cyber security order
Pre-internet email and usenet (was Re: How to choose the best news server for this newsgroup in 40tude Dialog?)
Trump to sign cyber security order
Pre-internet email and usenet (was Re: How to choose the best news server for this newsgroup in 40tude Dialog?)
Pre-internet email and usenet (was Re: How to choose the best news server for this newsgroup in 40tude Dialog?)
Trump to sign cyber security order
IBM "Breakup"
Disorder
Trump to sign cyber security order
Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
Spy Agencies Should Kick the Contractor Habit
Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
Trump to sign cyber security order
Good News and Bad News at Hanford, America's Most Polluted Site
Former CIA Analyst Sues Defense Department to Vindicate NSA Whistleblowers
IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper
IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper
Trump to sign cyber security order
Trump to sign cyber security order
Job Loyalty
Trump to sign cyber security order
Trump to sign cyber security order
when to get out???
More on Mannix and the computer
when to get out???
The ICL 2900
Subscription to Usenet groups
Janet Yellen debunks Trump's case for killing Dodd-Frank
z/OS under Linux ?
when to get out???
The ICL 2900
when to get out???
COBOL and POSIX pipes
Mary Jo White Seriously Misled The US Senate To Become SEC Chair
60 Minutes interview with Grace Hopper
Wild Ducks
3350 disks
The ICL 2900
The ICL 2900
Why Does Congress Accept Perpetual Wars?
60 Minutes interview with Grace Hopper
BITNET 8bit
Zero-copy write on modern motherboards
Jean Tirole's Proposal to Appoint Felons to Monitor CEOs
The ICL 2900
The ICL 2900
Zero-copy write on modern motherboards
The ICL 2900
The ICL 2900
The ICL 2900
China's Rise in Artificial Intelligence
The ICL 2900
The ICL 2900
The ICL 2900
The ICL 2900
Another Big Company Departs California
Corporate Tax Rate
The ICL 2900
60 Minutes interview with Grace Hopper
The ICL 2900 Buying a computer in the 1960s
The ICL 2900 Buying a computer in the 1960s
The ICL 2900
Sleepwalking Into a Nuclear Arms Race with Russia

Trump to sign cyber security order

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Trump to sign cyber security order
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2017 16:50:23 -0800
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#100 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#103 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#104 Trump to sign cyber security order

I've frequently quoted the following 3 Bloomberg articles; over $27T done 2001-2008; Greenspan (& others) weren't enforcing regulations (also description of many of the processes); and four largest TBTF were still carrying $5.2T offbook end of 2008. The URLs have since gone 404 and may now be behind bloomberg pay wall. Recent queries for the article titles didn't turn up any references on one major search engine. Same queries on anothere major search engine turns up large number of references ... even some of my past posts on first screen and other websites that have full text of the original articles. One might be tempted to be suspicious why one major search engine didn't come back with references (& whether or not it is transient or consistent/constant)

Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt (gone behind paywall)
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-27/evil-wall-street-exports-boomed-with-fools-born-to-buy-debt
partial, part1of4 (sometimes original can found with web search)
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-27/evil-wall-street-exports-boomed-with-fools-born-to-buy-debt
"Securitization was based on the premise that a fool was born every minute," Joseph Stiglitz, a professor of economics at Columbia University in New York, told a congressional committee on Oct. 21. "Globalization meant that there was a global landscape on which they could search for those fools -- and they found them everywhere."

The bundling of consumer loans and home mortgages into packages of securities -- a process known as securitization -- was the biggest U.S. export business of the 21st century. More than $27 trillion of these securities have been sold since 2001, according to the Securities Industry Financial Markets Association, an industry trade group. That's almost twice last year's U.S. gross domestic product of $13.8 trillion


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Greenspan Slept as Off-Books Debt Escaped Scrutiny
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=aYJZOB_gZi0I
That same year Greenspan, Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin and SEC Chairman Arthur Levitt opposed an attempt by Brooksley Born, head of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, to study regulating over-the-counter derivatives. In 2000, Congress passed a law keeping them unregulated.

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Bank's Hidden Junk Menaces $1 Trillion Purge
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=akv_p6LBNIdw&refer=home

So investors betting for quick solutions to the financial crisis could be disappointed. The tangled web that banks wove over the years will take a long time to undo.
At the end of 2008, for example, off-balance-sheet assets at just the four biggest U.S. banks -- Bank of America Corp., Citigroup Inc., JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Wells Fargo & Co. -- were about $5.2 trillion, according to their 2008 annual filings.

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past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fed.chairman

past posts mentioning one or more of the bloomberg article URLs:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#53 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#65 is it possible that ALL banks will be nationalized?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#7 Are Ctibank's services and products so vital to global economy than no other banks can substitute it?

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Trump to sign cyber security order

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Trump to sign cyber security order
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2017 20:10:10 -0800
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#100 Trump to sign cyber security order

a few more refs:

West Virginia Chemical Spill Exposes a New Risk to Water From Coal
https://weather.com/science/environment/news/west-virginia-chemical-spill-exposes-new-risk-water-coal-20140118
Coal Company Unlawfully Polluted West Virginia Water, Federal Judge Rules
https://thinkprogress.org/coal-company-unlawfully-polluted-west-virginia-water-federal-judge-rules-70a8608465a6
Ignoring coal ash could be toxic to Trump's legacy
https://thinkprogress.org/coal-ash-enforcement-donald-trump-956f25100ccd
West Virginia Water Crisis
https://wvwatercrisis.com/
Water pollution from coal
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Water_pollution_from_coal
Claims Coal-Fired Plant Polluted River: Utility Faces Trial
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/claims-coal-fired-plant-polluted-river-utility-faces-45129117
Cleaning Up Coal Ash << Appalachian Voices
http://appvoices.org/coalash/
Duke Energy fined $102 million for polluting rivers with coal ash
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-duke-energy-coal-ash-20150514-story.html
Why coal jobs aren't coming back, despite Trump's actions
http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/24/investing/trump-coal-epa-regulation/
One Year After Spill That Contaminated Drinking Water, West Virginia Legislature Tries to Roll Back Chemical Regulations
http://www.newsweek.com/one-year-after-spill-contaminated-drinking-water-west-virginia-legislature-305975

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IBM 1970s

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: IBM 1970s
Date: 03 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook
Since Future System was completely different than 360/370 and was going to completely replace 360/370, they were shutting down 370 projects. The dearth of 370 products during FS period is credited with giving clone processor makers market foothold. After FS implodes there is mad rush to get products back into the 370 pipelines.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

I got con'd into working on some number of the products. The 370/125 sucked me into working on design of 5-way SMP. 115/125 had 9 position memory bus for microprocessors all identical with different microcode loads ... one with 370 instruction emulation. 125 was same as 115, but 370 microcode microprocessor was 50% faster than the others. I got asked to design/implement 125 with 5 processors running 370 microcode. This never got announced shipped because the 138/148 people complained that it overlapped their throughput with much better price/performance.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#bounce

I also got sucked into doing enhancements for 138/148 follow-on to 135/145 ... in some escalation meetings (with 125), I was expected to simultaneously sit on both sides of the table arguing with myself. Endicott then asked me to spend a year periodically running around the world to explain the 138/148 to the business planning and forecasting people. US regions forecast products ... if the forecasts were wrong, the plants absorbed it ... compared to World Trade, where the country ordered and bought those machines from the plant and then it was each countries responsibility getting orders from customers. As a result there was no accountability for US bad forecasts, promotions were based on forecasting what hdqtrs told them was strategic, while WT business people got fired for poor forecasting. Also plants had to do their own US forecasts because region forecasts couldn't be relied on. US forecasting said that because 138/148 had IBM logo it would be some percent more than 135/145 regardless of features. WT forecasting said that unless 138/148 had better features it would sell no boxes against competition. old post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#21 370 ECPS VM microcode assist

Also one of my hobbies was doing enhanced production operating systems for internal datacenters, including HONE (when EMEA 1st moved from US to Paris, HONE asked me to go over to do HONE clone in Paris). When running around the world for Endicott, if there was a HONE clone, the HONE people would want me to stop in and talk to them.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

About the same time, Amdahl was selling its machines to universities and technical institutions but hadn't broken into true blue commercial market. There was lots of customers that like me to stop by and visit. There was one of the largest financial commercial IBM customer that had enormous machine room with vast sea of "blue" boxes ... the datacenter manager like me to come by and talk with him and his people. At one point the branch manager did something that horribly offended the customer ... who then said that they were going to order an Amdahl system to teach the branch manager a lesson. I was then asked to go sit onsite at the customer for six months to help obfuscate why the customer was installing an Amdahl system. I refused to go along with the charade, I knew the customer wouldn't change their mind. I was then told that the branch manager was good sailing buddy of the CEO ... if I didn't do this, it would be a black mark on the branch manager's career ... and I could forget about having any career in IBM, promotions or raises.

Later I would sponsor Boyd's briefings at IBM (responsible for lot of the F15, F16, and A10). By the time he passes the USAF had pretty much disowned him and it was the Marines at Arlington (1990, Marine commandant had leveraged Boyd for make-over of the corp). It was then a surprise for USAF to have Boyd Hall after he passed:

"There are two career paths in front of you, and you have to choose which path you will follow. One path leads to promotions, titles, and positions of distinction.... The other path leads to doing things that are truly significant for the Air Force, but the rewards will quite often be a kick in the stomach because you may have to cross swords with the party line on occasion. You can't go down both paths, you have to choose. Do you want to be a man of distinction or do you want to do things that really influence the shape of the Air Force? To Be or To Do, that is the question." Colonel John R. Boyd, USAF 1927-1997

From the dedication of Boyd Hall, United States Air Force Weapons School, Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada. 17 September 1999

When he was instructor at Nellis, he had been considered possibly the best fighter pilot in the world. He was referred to as "40 second Boyd" because he had outstanding challenge to all fighter pilots in the world, he give them advantage on his tail and reverse it within 40 seconds. He never lost.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

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Trump, Wall Street and the "banking caucus" ready to rip apart Dodd-Frank

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Trump, Wall Street and the "banking caucus" ready to rip apart Dodd-Frank
Date: 03 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#95 Trump, Wall Street and the "banking caucus" ready to rip apart Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#96 Trump, Wall Street and the "banking caucus" ready to rip apart Dodd-Frank

How Wall Street Killed Financial Reform; It's bad enough that the banks strangled the Dodd-Frank law. Even worse is the way they did it - with a big assist from Congress and the White House
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-wall-street-killed-financial-reform-20120510
How Wall Street Defanged Dodd-Frank; Battalions of regulatory lawyers burrowed deep in the federal bureaucracy to foil reform.
http://www.thenation.com/article/174113/how-wall-street-defanged-dodd-frank
Josh Rosner on How Dodd Frank Institutionalizes Too Big to Fail
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/05/josh-rosner-on-how-dodd-frank-institutionalizes-too-big-to-fail.html Rosner focuses on Articles I and II of Dodd Frank and describes how their plans to deal with resolving large firms has only made matters worse. It' s key to understand that these two sections are somewhat at odds with each other. Dodd Frank peculiarly provides for two ways to wind up systemically important firms. Title I says they should prepare for bankruptcy. They need to clean up how they are organized and make sure activities fit or can be mapped into legal entities and prepare living wills, which are plans for how they would wind themselves up. But confusingly, banks can also be "resolved" which is more like "rescued with a little pain inflicted on investors" under Title II. Title II provides for a second way to deal with stressed financial firms, which includes having the government provide what amounts to debtor-in-possession financing while the bank is restructured. This, sports fans, is what is otherwise known as a bailout.

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posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

Are Treasury and the Fed at Odds Over Big Banks? Treasury Secretary Lew keeps hands off as Wall Street giants grow larger.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/are-treasury-and-the-fed-at-odds-over-big-banks-20130524 But at his 2010 Senate confirmation hearing to become head of Office of Management and Budget, Lew also indicated that he didn't consider the deregulation of Wall Street to be a "proximate" cause of the financial crisis --an answer that put him at odds with his boss, who declared as a presidential candidate in 2008: "It's because of deregulation that Wall Street was able to engage in the kind of irresponsible actions that have caused this financial crisis."

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Gretchen Morgenson on Why Banks Are Still Too Big To Fail
http://billmoyers.com/segment/gretchen-morgenson-on-why-banks-are-still-too-big-to-fail/ Dodd-Frank set up a system to unwind troubled institutions when they become troubled. But it requires regulators taking a really firm stand against large, politically-interconnected, and powerful companies ... I just think it's too easy to put the taxpayer on the hook and bail these people out

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Deja Vu on the Hill: Wall Street Lobbyists Roll Back Finance Reform, Again
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/deja-vu-on-the-hill-wall-street-lobbyists-roll-back-finance-reform-again-20130521
Bank Lobbyists Writing the Rules for Wall Street
http://www.pogo.org/blog/2013/05/bank-lobbyists-writing-the-rules-for-wall-street.html
Banks' Lobbyists Help in Drafting Financial Bills
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/05/23/banks-lobbyists-help-in-drafting-financial-bills/

some of the ploys referenced in above, email was uncovered that wallstreet lobbyists were providing provisions to be included in the Dodd-Frank draft. In some cases, they were blatant ridiculous, the added provisions would leak and then the same lobbyists would ridicule the provisions as part of discrediting the process. In other cases the provided provisions were enormously complex or fatally flawed, guaranteeing that it would take years attempting (or impossible) to come up with regulations.

posts mentioning Dodd-Frank:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#62 Dodd-Frank Act Makes CEO-Worker Pay Gap Subject to Disclosure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#86 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#48 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#43 I don't work for IBM and I don't make promises I can't deliver on
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#83 The banking sector grew seven times faster than gross domestic product since the beginning of the financial crisis and Too-Big-to-Fail: Banks Get Bigger After Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#34 21st Century Management approach?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#63 21st Century Management approach?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#54 The New Age Bounty Hunger -- Showdown at the SEC Corral
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#5 Too big not to fail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#39 Greek knife to Wall Street
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#54 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#16 IBM cuts more than 1,000 U.S. Workers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#86 CISPA legislation seen by many as SOPA 2.0
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#12 JPM LOSES $2 BILLION USD!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#16 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#56 Why Hasn't The Government Prosecuted Anyone For The 2008 Financial recession?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#64 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#48 The Payoff: Why Wall Street Always Wins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#71 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#73 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#45 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#86 How Wall Street Defanged Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#14 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#76 The Scholars Who Shill for Wall Street
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#81 Academics Who Defend Wall St. Reap Reward
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#3 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#68 Economists and our responsibilities to society
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#126 Wall Street's Revenge
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#150 LEO
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#25 Gutting Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#47 Do we REALLY NEED all this regulatory oversight?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#102 Thanks Obama
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#69 IBM Buying Promontory Clinches It: Regtech Is Real
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#73 IBM Buying Promontory Clinches It: Regtech Is Real
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#8 Wall Street Preparing Dodd-Frank Rule Workaround
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#9 Wall Street Preparing Dodd-Frank Rule Workaround
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#10 Wall Street Preparing Dodd-Frank Rule Workaround
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#58 Drafting of Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#78 More Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#15 BREAKING: Trump Announces Big Gift To Banks Despite His Campaign Rhetoric Against Wall Street
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#41 Are We Nearing a Cyber Sarbanes-Oxley?

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OT: Trump Moves to Roll Back Obama-Era Financial Regulations

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: OT:  Trump Moves to Roll Back Obama-Era Financial Regulations
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2017 13:09:37 -0800
hancock4 writes:
The NYT and other news agencies reported that President Trump moved to roll back the Obama administration's legacy on financial regulation on Friday, announcing an array of steps to undo rules enacted to prevent a repeat of the 2008 financial crisis and turning to the Wall Street titans he had demonized during his campaign for advice. After a White House meeting with the business executives on Friday, Mr. Trump signed a directive calling for a rewriting of major provisions of the Dodd-Frank Act, crafted by the Obama administration and passed by Congress in response to the 2008 meltdown, the White House said. A second directive he signed is expected to halt and possibly require an overhaul of an Obama-era Labor Department rule that requires brokers to act in a client's best interest, rather than seek the highest profits for themselves, when providing retirement advice.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/03/business/dealbook/trump-congress-financial-regulations.html


re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#95 Trump, Wall Street and the "banking caucus" ready to rip apart Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#96 Trump, Wall Street and the "banking caucus" ready to rip apart Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#3 Trump, Wall Street and the "banking caucus" ready to rip apart Dodd-Frank

It became clear (to me) in the spring of 2009 that congress had no intention of doing anything substantive about wall street. January, 2009 I was asked to HTMLize(/web pages) the Pecora Hearings (30s congressional hearings into '29 crash, resulted in Glass-Steagall and criminal convictions with jailtime) with lots of internal HREFs and URLs between what happened then and what happened this time (comments that the new congress might have the appetite to do something). I work on it for awhile and then get a call that it won't be needed after all (references to enormous mountains of wallstreet cash totally burying capital hill). past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall

there is: "Confidence Men" pg430:
But they were fighting on too many fronts. Carl Levin of Michigan and Jeff Merkley of Oregon had discovered that Dodd had discreetly gutted the Volcker Rule, and the two set to work trying to counteract Dodd's efforts. The Merkley-Levin Amendment articulated Volcker's idea fully -- and wrote it as law. No regulatory backsliding, once everything settled down. ... and "Age of Greed" pg370:
In addition, the Justice Department was now investigating reduced rate mortgages Mozilo allegedly sold to Senators Chris Dodd of Connecticut and Kent Conrad of North Dakota, as well as two former heads of Fannie Mae, Jim Johnson and Franklin Raines. They were known as "Friends of Angelo."
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Angelo, #1 on times list of those responsible for the economic mess/financial crisis
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877339,00.html

How Wall Street Killed Financial Reform; It's bad enough that the banks strangled the Dodd-Frank law. Even worse is the way they did it - with a big assist from Congress and the White House
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-wall-street-killed-financial-reform-20120510
How Wall Street Defanged Dodd-Frank; Battalions of regulatory lawyers burrowed deep in the federal bureaucracy to foil reform.
http://www.thenation.com/article/174113/how-wall-street-defanged-dodd-frank
Josh Rosner on How Dodd Frank Institutionalizes Too Big to Fail
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/05/josh-rosner-on-how-dodd-frank-institutionalizes-too-big-to-fail.html
Rosner focuses on Articles I and II of Dodd Frank and describes how their plans to deal with resolving large firms has only made matters worse. It' s key to understand that these two sections are somewhat at odds with each other. Dodd Frank peculiarly provides for two ways to wind up systemically important firms. Title I says they should prepare for bankruptcy. They need to clean up how they are organized and make sure activities fit or can be mapped into legal entities and prepare living wills, which are plans for how they would wind themselves up. But confusingly, banks can also be "resolved" which is more like "rescued with a little pain inflicted on investors" under Title II. Title II provides for a second way to deal with stressed financial firms, which includes having the government provide what amounts to debtor-in-possession financing while the bank is restructured. This, sports fans, is what is otherwise known as a bailout.
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posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

Are Treasury and the Fed at Odds Over Big Banks? Treasury Secretary Lew keeps hands off as Wall Street giants grow larger.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/are-treasury-and-the-fed-at-odds-over-big-banks-20130524
But at his 2010 Senate confirmation hearing to become head of Office of Management and Budget, Lew also indicated that he didn't consider the deregulation of Wall Street to be a "proximate" cause of the financial crisis --an answer that put him at odds with his boss, who declared as a presidential candidate in 2008: "It's because of deregulation that Wall Street was able to engage in the kind of irresponsible actions that have caused this financial crisis."
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Gretchen Morgenson on Why Banks Are Still Too Big To Fail
http://billmoyers.com/segment/gretchen-morgenson-on-why-banks-are-still-too-big-to-fail/
Dodd-Frank set up a system to unwind troubled institutions when they become troubled. But it requires regulators taking a really firm stand against large, politically-interconnected, and powerful companies ... I just think it's too easy to put the taxpayer on the hook and bail these people out
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Deja Vu on the Hill: Wall Street Lobbyists Roll Back Finance Reform, Again
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/deja-vu-on-the-hill-wall-street-lobbyists-roll-back-finance-reform-again-20130521
Bank Lobbyists Writing the Rules for Wall Street
http://www.pogo.org/blog/2013/05/bank-lobbyists-writing-the-rules-for-wall-street.html
Banks' Lobbyists Help in Drafting Financial Bills
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/05/23/banks-lobbyists-help-in-drafting-financial-bills/

some of the ploys involved in Dodd-Frank, email was uncovered that wallstreet lobbyists were providing provisions to be included in the Dodd-Frank draft. In some cases, they were blatant ridiculous, the added provisions would leak and then the same lobbyists would ridicule the provisions as part of discrediting the process. In other cases the provided provisions were enormously complex or fatally flawed, guaranteeing that it would take years attempting (or impossible) to come up with regulations.

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Trump to sign cyber security order

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Trump to sign cyber security order
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2017 16:17:43 -0800
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
The problem with the EPA is that it doesn't have adult supervision if the current President doesn't pay attention. There are other regulatory groups which are in the same situation.

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https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#49 How Finance Behaves like a Parasite Toward the Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#104 Trump to sign cyber security order

for the most part ... the regulatory agencies have been compromised ("regulatory capture") by large powerful corporations and industries. The most notable was financial mess with SEC, OCC, Federal Researve, FDIC, etc. ... also shows up in comments about how dodd-frank was drafted (enormous amounts of obfuscation, misdirection and misinformation)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#95 Trump, Wall Street and the "banking caucus" ready to rip apart Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#96 Trump, Wall Street and the "banking caucus" ready to rip apart Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#3 Trump, Wall Street and the "banking caucus" ready to rip apart Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#4 OT: Trump Moves to Roll Back Obama-Era Financial Regulations

misc. refs

California's Biggest 'Secret' -- Oil Industry Capture of the Regulatory Apparatus
http://www.eastbayexpress.com/SevenDays/archives/2015/07/29/californias-biggest-secret-oil-industry-capture-of-the-regulatory-apparatus
Combatting External and Internal Regulatory Capture
https://promarket.org/combatting-external-internal-regulatory-capture/
How Industry and the Feds Suppressed Evidence That Plastics Wreak Havoc on Our Hormones
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/03/regulatory-capture-bpa-plastic-estrogen-endocrine-disruptor-feds
New ALEC Documents Show Regulatory Capture in Action
https://www.thenation.com/article/new-alec-documents-show-regulatory-capture-action/
EPA Contaminated by Conflict of Interest
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/spc/multimedia/epa-corporate/
Documents Reveal EPA's National Fracking Study Halted by Industry Pressure
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-coleman/documents-reveal-epas-nat_b_6808996.html
EPA Used Monsanto's Research to Give Roundup a Pass
https://theintercept.com/2015/11/03/epa-used-monsanto-funded-research/
Mapping Out The Revolving Door Between Gov't And Big Business In Venn Diagrams
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111221/17561617164/mapping-out-revolving-door-between-govt-big-business-venn-diagrams.shtml
Frackonomics
http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2013/0713larson.html
Reforming Regulation
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/economy/reports/2016/11/01/291499/reforming-regulation/

we now have secretary of state that was CEO of company involved in ... campaign of misinformation, obfuscation and misdirection, a small number of the articles

What Exxon knew
http://magazine.columbia.edu/explorations/winter-2015-16/what-exxon-knew
Columbia Journalism Report Criticizes Exxon CEO's Position On Climate Change
http://www.npr.org/2016/12/13/505442921/columbia-journalism-report-criticizes-exxon-ceos-position-on-climate-change
Exxon Knew about Climate Change almost 40 years ago. A new investigation shows the oil company understood the science before it became a public issue and spent millions to promote misinformation
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/
Exxon's Climate Concealment
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/10/opinion/exxons-climate-concealment.html
Research Confirms ExxonMobil, Koch-Funded Climate Denial Echo Chamber Polluted Mainstream Media
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/33789-research-confirms-exxonmobil-koch-funded-climate-denial-echo-chamber-polluted-mainstream-media
Granddaughter of Exxon Scientist Confronts CEO over Oil Giant's Decision to Fund Climate Lies
https://www.democracynow.org/2016/5/26/granddaughter_of_exxon_scientist_confronts_ceo
Scientific organizations must stop taking money from Exxon
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/energy-environment/295761-scientific-organizations-must-stop-taking-money-from
Shareholders Ask the SEC: Stop ExxonMobil's Attempts To Block Climate Resolutions
http://www.triplepundit.com/2016/02/shareholders-ask-sec-stop-exxonmobils-attempts-block-climate-resolutions/
Exxon Continued Paying Millions To Climate-Change Deniers Under Rex Tillerson
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tillerson-exxon-climate-donations_us_5873a3f4e4b043ad97e48f52
Tillerson ducks Exxon climate change allegations. Rex Tillerson just doesn't want to talk about whether oil giant Exxon misled the public on climate change.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/11/investing/tillerson-hearing-exxon-climate-change/
Two-faced Exxon: the misinformation campaign against its own scientists
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2015/nov/25/two-faced-exxon-the-misinformation-campaign-against-its-own-scientists
Study: ExxonMobil Now the Only Giant Oil Co. Failing to Act on Global Warming Risks
http://www.csrwire.com/press_releases/23390-Study-ExxonMobil-Now-the-Only-Giant-Oil-Co-Failing-to-Act-on-Global-Warming-Risks
Exxon-Mobil CEO Downplays the Global Warming Threat
https://skepticalscience.com/exxon-mobi-ceo-denies-climate-threat.html
Can ExxonMobil Be Found Liable for Misleading the Public on Climate Change? Scientists at the biggest U.S. oil company understood as early as anyone that fossil fuel emissions were heating up the earth's atmosphere.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-07/will-exxonmobil-have-to-pay-for-misleading-the-public-on-climate-change
Exxon Is Fighting for Its Right to Deny Climate Change
https://www.wired.com/2016/07/exxon-fighting-right-deny-climate-change/
Exxon knew of climate change in 1981, email says -- but it funded deniers for 27 more years
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jul/08/exxon-climate-change-1981-climate-denier-funding
Exxon Mobil is ordered to hand over climate change research
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-exxon-mobil-climate-change-documents-20170112-story.html
Exxon ordered to turn over 40 years of climate change research
http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/12/investing/exxon-loses-climate-change-ruling/
Investigation Finds Exxon Ignored Its Own Early Climate Change Warnings
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/investigation-finds-exxon-ignored-its-own-early-climate-change-warnings/
Researchers: Exxon, Koch Family Have Powered the Climate-Denial Machine for Decades
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2015/12/01/exxonmobil_koch_family_have_powered_climate_change_denial_for_decades.html
Exxon has known about climate change since the 1970s
http://fortune.com/2015/09/16/exxon-climate-change/
Exxon Mobil on Hot Seat for Global Warming Denial
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/11/05/exxon-mobil-under-investigation-for-climate-change-denial
ExxonMobil funded a climate change denier years after it claimed to have stopped
http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/27/8122913/exxonmobil-climate-change-denier-willie-soon
ExxonMobil Vs. The World
http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2016/11/30/503825417/exxonmobil-vs-the-world
How Exxon Mobil Lied About Climate Change
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a36337/climate-change-liars/
New York is investigating Exxon Mobil for allegedly misleading the public about climate change
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/11/05/exxonmobil-under-investigation-for-misleading-the-public-about-climate-change/
Pressure on Exxon Over Climate Change Intensifies With New Documents
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/14/science/pressure-on-exxon-over-climate-change-intensifies-with-new-documents.html
What Exxon Knew About Climate Change
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/what-exxon-knew-about-climate-change
What Exxon knew about climate change, and when it knew it
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/what-exxon-knew-about-climate-change-and-when-it-knew-it
What Exxon knew about the Earth's melting Arctic
http://graphics.latimes.com/exxon-arctic/

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OT: Trump Moves to Roll Back Obama-Era Financial Regulations

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: OT: Trump Moves to Roll Back Obama-Era Financial Regulations
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2017 09:41:19 -0800
Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> writes:
Or, copy the bailout mechanism that around half the other OECD countries have.

Here, we do bail out, but only with equity, and only when there is absolutely no other alternative.

That means that the bailout will get to own 90+ percent of the company being bailed out, and the original equity is close to nulled out.

This happened here with the four biggest banks ca 1991-92. The best one had take over one of the others earlier, and was dragged down into bailout. They got to keep ~14%. The two others were at ~6% and ~4% respectively. All shareholders got an offer to be reimbursed at this lower rate, but very few took the offer.


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https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#4 OT: Trump Moves to Roll Back Obama-Era Financial Regulations

trivia: S&L crisis time-frame
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#s&l.crisis

approx same time frame ('89) somebody did math/computer modeling of the citibank variable rate mortgage portfolia (largest in the country) and found that only small changes in the interest rate could take the bank down. as a result, citibank sold off its mortgage portfolio and got out of the mortgage business ... and required private bailout to stay in business (money coming from foreign country, and significant percentage of the bank was then owned by foreign entity) ... old post (from same year that I was asked to try and help pervent the coming economic crisis)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm

Role forward a decade (from that bailout) and all institutional knowledge of the cause of that earlier bailout appears to evaporate ... back as major player in securitized mortgages (which can be viewed as form of variable rate mortgage porfolio). A major difference between the earlier bailout and the situation last decade ... is combination of repeal of Glass-Steagall and other deregulation ... is that citibank is the TBTF carrying the largest amount of those securitized mortgages "offbook" (so even tho tens of billions of securitized mortgages had gone for 22cents on the dollar late summer 2008, being carried "offbook" the disaster didn't show on the banks books). posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

and from this post a couple days ago
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#0 Trump to sign cyber security order

Greenspan Slept as Off-Books Debt Escaped Scrutiny
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=aYJZOB_gZi0I

and just four largest TBTF carrying $5.2T "off book" (and citi carrying the most of the four)

Bank's Hidden Junk Menaces $1 Trillion Purge
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=akv_p6LBNIdw&refer=home
So investors betting for quick solutions to the financial crisis could be disappointed. The tangled web that banks wove over the years will take a long time to undo.

At the end of 2008, for example, off-balance-sheet assets at just the four biggest U.S. banks -- Bank of America Corp., Citigroup Inc., JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Wells Fargo & Co. -- were about $5.2 trillion, according to their 2008 annual filings.


... snip ...

as periodically mentioned before, the $700B appropriated for TARP supposedly to buy these "off book" assets couldn't hardly dent the problem. TARP was used for other purposes (most went to AIG forced to pay off the CDS gambling bets at face value) and the Federal Reserve handled the bailout ... buying trillions in off book assets at 98cents on the dollar and providing tens of trillions in ZIRP funds
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#zirp

When FED lost long fought legal battle and had to disclose what it was doing, the FED chairman held a press conference to say that he had thought that the TBTF would use the ZIRP funds to help mainstreet, but when they didn't, he had no way to force them (but that didn't stop the ZIRP funds)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fed.chairman

at the time of the economic mess bailout, there were a few articles that one of the major motivations was to help the citibank investor/owners from this other country (that provided the earlier private bailout), incidently the country was also from where the majority of the 9/11 terrorists originated.

A couple years ago, the ban was lifted allowing the 9/11 victim families to sue that country as responsible for 9/11. a few past refs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#51 U.S. Sidelined as Iraq Becomes Bloodier
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#83 NSA surveillance played little role in foiling terror plots, experts say
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#11 NSA seeks to build quantum computer that could crack most types of encryption
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#13 Al-Qaeda-linked force captures Fallujah amid rise in violence in Iraq
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#42 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#99 Reducing Army Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#103 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#4 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#11 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#14 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#38 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#89 Difference between MVS and z / OS systems
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#51 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#64 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#72 George W. Bush: Still the worst; A new study ranks Bush near the very bottom in history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#27 What were the complaints of binary code programmers that not accept Assembly?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#73 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#78 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#54 The Jeb Bush Adviser Who Should Scare You
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#12 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#43 Thanks Obama
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#50 Iraqi WMDs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#93 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#24 Frieden calculator

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OT: Trump Moves to Roll Back Obama-Era Financial Regulations

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: OT: Trump Moves to Roll Back Obama-Era Financial Regulations
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2017 10:16:18 -0800
Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> writes:
What happened to the directors? I was getting rid of them.

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#4 OT: Trump Moves to Roll Back Obama-Era Financial Regulations
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#5 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#6 OT: Trump Moves to Roll Back Obama-Era Financial Regulations

April 2008, before the economic mess crash really hit, there was an article out of the wharton business school that estimated approx. 1000 people were responsible for 80% of the mess and it would go a long way to fixing the problem if the gov. could figure out how to separate them from their positions ... article disappeared behind registration wall ... but sometimes re-appears in the open ... but it also leaked to the wayback machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20080606084328/http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article.cfm?articleid=1933

it also references the triple-A rated toxic CDOs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

Later Oct2008 congressional hearing into the privotal role that the rating agencies played, that there was testimony that the rating agencies were selling triple-A ratings for toxic CDOs when they knew weren't worth triple-A. One of the TV news people covering the hearings predicted that their would never be federal prosecution of the rating agencies because they could blackmail the gov. with credit rating downgrade.

It was also the spring of 2008, that it started to dawn on some investors that the rating agencies where selling triple-A ratings and possibly the ratings couldn't be trusted and it froze the muni-bond market. Warren Buffett then steps and started offering muni-bond insurance to unfreeze the market

past posts referencing the Wharton article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#32 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#44 Fixing finance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#52 IBM CEO's remuneration last year ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#66 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#89 Credit Crisis Timeline
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#4 A Merit based system of reward -Does anybody (or any executive) really want to be judged on merit?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#67 Do you have other examples of how people evade taking resp. for risk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#73 CROOKS and NANNIES: what would Boyd do?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#77 CROOKS and NANNIES: what would Boyd do?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#79 The Credit Crunch: Why it happened?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#85 Banks' Demise: Why have the Governments hired the foxes to mend the chicken runs?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#1 Are Both The U.S. & UK on the brink of debt disaster?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#11 Amid Economic Turbulence, Mainframes Counter IT Cost-Cutting Trend
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#18 Barbless
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#25 The recently revealed excesses of John Thain, the former CEO of Merrill Lynch, while the firm was receiving $25 Billion in TARP funds makes me sick
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#36 A great article was posted in another BI group: "To H*** with Business Intelligence: 40 Percent of Execs Trust Gut"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#49 US disaster, debts and bad financial management
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#53 Credit & Risk Management ... go Simple ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#54 In your opinion, which facts caused the global crise situation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#11 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#28 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#38 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#39 'WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GLOBAL MELTDOWN'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#3 Congress Set to Approve Pay Cap of $500,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#35 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#20 What is the real basis for business mess we are facing today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#27 US banking Changes- TARP Proposl
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#35 US banking Changes- TARP Proposl
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#38 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#54 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#22 In the News: SEC storms the 'Castle'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#40 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#38 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#40 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#74 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#73 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#74 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#48 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#31 21st Century Management approach?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#17 What's your favorite quote on "accountability"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#22 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#77 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#53 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#55 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#64 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#4 HSBC's Settlement Leaves Us In A Scary Place
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#73 Why DOJ Deemed Bank Execs Too Big To Jail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#8 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#47 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer

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BSAM vs QSAM

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: BSAM vs QSAM
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 4 Feb 2017 10:53:50 -0800
0000013a910fd252-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.UA.EDU (David W Noon) writes:
All of the buffer fills and buffer flushes occur quite separately from the application program. The EXCP macro is a wonderful thing.

A big problem with the EXCP semantics ... it had applications (and/or libraries running in application space) to build channel programs/CCWs in the application space. EXCP then takes the passed channel program pointer and initiates the I/O.

In the move to all virtual memory ... the big problem is that channel programs (CCWs) execute with real addresses ... after virtual memory, all the channel programs were being built with virtual addresses. The original justification for moving everything to virtual memory was the horrible MVT storage management (regions required to be four times larger than typically used) ... typical 370/165 with 1mbyte memory ran four regions. Moving to 16mbyte virtual memoy could increase number of regions by a factor of four with little or no paging, the increase level of concurrent activity significantly increasing system throughput (as disks were increasingly becoming system throughput bottleneck). Old post with quotes from person directly involved
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#73 Multiple Virtual Memory

The initial implementation VS2 release 1 (SVS) did a little bit of code to have single 16mbyte virtual address space ... with MVT layed out as if running in 16mbyte real machine. The majority of the code was in EXCP having to create a copy of the passed channel programs, substituting real addresses for the virtual addresses ... the code was borrowed by taking CCWTRANS from (virtual machine) CP67.

The move to release 2, MVS involved (sort of) giving each application a 16mbyte virtual address space. However, the extensive MVT pointer-passing convention required giving 8mbytes of each address space half the 16mbyte for image of the MVS supervisor. Then because MVT subsystems were moved to their own separate address spaces ... to enable pointer passing convention between applications and subsystems, they had to be stuffed into the "common segment" to support pointer passing API convention. Starts out as single one mbyte segment, but because the space needed is somewhat proportional to concurrent activity, number of subsystems, etc ... it evolves to CSA ... larger systems with 4-6mbytes CSA ... leaving 2-4mbytes for applications. Late in 3033 period, CSAs were threatening to expand to 8mbytes ... leaving no available space in 16mbytes for application use.

Also from CP67, charlie had invented compare&swap while working on CP67 fine-grain multiprocessor locking (compare&swap chosen because CAS are his initials). Initial attempts to get it included in 370 were rebuffed because the POK favorite son operating system people said it wasn't needed. 370 architecture people said to justify compare&swap, needed uses other than kernel locking.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp

Thus were born the uses that still appear in the appendex of principles of operation ... including wait/post ECB

ECB
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.idas300/ecb.htm
wait/post
http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieaa600/tasks.htm

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The ICL 2900

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The ICL 2900
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2017 17:36:49 -0800
Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk > writes:
I first held in my hands (literally) a 780-equivalent laptop in 2001.

If I have done the maths correctly, my 2011-model MacBook Pro is equivalent to about 2500 780s, or about 5000 KI10s, taking just 400 microseconds to run the Whetstone benchmark.


old post about in mid-90s redoing "routes" (about 25% of use) for largest airline res system ... making it 100 faster and doing all ten things existing version couldn't do ... ten rs/6000 990s would handle the load for all airlines in the world. A decade later, cellphone (xscale) processor had more capacity and faster processing than 990.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#79 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#53 z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#52 Article says mainframe most cost-efficient platform
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#34 Access z/OS 3270 TSO from "smartphone"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#43 Sabre; The First Online Reservation System
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#59 IBM's z196 Article at RWT

other past posts mentioning implementation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#23 IA64 Rocks My World
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#99 The SDS 92, its place in history?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#7 Fwd: [sqlite] presentation about ordering and atomicity of filesystems
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#5 Can you have a robust IT system that needs experts to run it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#117 25 Years: How the Web began
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#58 Man Versus System
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#93 Delta Outage

an issue was that latency to memory ... when measured in number of processor cycles, was approaching 60s latency to disk (when measured in number of 60s processor cycles). past posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#12 University rank of Computer Architecture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#23 The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#7 My Vintage Dream PC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#58 Memory versus processor speed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#4 Memory versus processor speed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#67 relative speeds, was What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#53 Mainframe On Cloud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#35 Why is the mainframe so expensive?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#97 IBM ACS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#2 Demonstrating Moore's law
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#5 The SDS 92, its place in history?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#74 Bell Picturephone--early business application experiments
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#164 Slushware
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#68 Raspberry Pi 3?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#38 How the internet was invented
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#36 z/OS Operating System size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#91 ABO Automatic Binary Optimizer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#92 ABO Automatic Binary Optimizer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#43 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#98 A Christmassy PL/I tale

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IBM 1970s

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: IBM 1970s
Date: 04 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#2 IBM 1970s

I was blamed for online computer conferencing (early precursor to social networking) on the internal network (larger than arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until sometime mid-80s) in the late 70s and early 80s. Folklore is that when the corporate executive committee were told about online computer conferencing (and the internal network), 5of6 wanted to fire me. Having 5 of the corporate executive committee wanting to fire me pretty much eliminated any chance of promoting me to the highest technical position (if earlier activity hadn't already precluded promotion, started to be jokes that the position had become increasingly political). However the 6th started providing funds out of his office that allowed me to work on projects as if I had been promoted to the company's highest technical position. Later in the early 90s, both my wife and I took an early out leave (with no possibility of return), with bridge to 30yrs. From truth is stranger than fiction, the first day on leave, I get a letter at home saying I had been promoted (IBM, the company that promotes you after you leave).

from IBM Jargon:

Tandem Memos - n. Something constructive but hard to control; a fresh of breath air (sic). That's another Tandem Memos. A phrase to worry middle management. It refers to the computer-based conference (widely distributed in 1981) in which many technical personnel expressed dissatisfaction with the tools available to them at that time, and also constructively criticized the way products were [are] developed. The memos are required reading for anyone with a serious interest in quality products. If you have not seen the memos, try reading the November 1981 Datamation summary.
... snip ...

There were a lot of "task force" activity in the wake of "Tandem Memos" ... One of the results were official corporate sanctioned forums.

past posts mentioning (IBM Jargon) Tandem Memos:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#5 Is email dead? What do you think?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#21 WHAT WAS THE PROJECT YOU WERE INVOLVED/PARTICIPATED AT IBM THAT YOU WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#36 Early mainframe tcp/ip support (from ibm-main mailing list)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#78 Wylbur, Orvyl, Milton, CRBE/CRJE were all used (and sometimes liked) in the past
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#21 program coding pads
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#43 My first mainframe experience
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#25 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#31 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#88 Original Thinking Is Hard, Where Good Ideas Come From
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#90 IBM Doing Some Restructuring?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#17 5 Byte Device Addresses?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#16 IBM cuts more than 1,000 U.S. Workers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#6 Origins of "User-friendly"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#67 Typeface (font) and city identity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#21 Closure in Disappearance of Computer Scientist
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#55 Transition to Retirement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#65 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#1 Time to choose the Knights of 2012
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#0 PDP-10 system calls, was 1132 printer history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#6 Real Hackers use Big Iron (Humor)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#7 Why former IBMers who left maybe years ago for any reason are still active on the Greater IBM Connection?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#46 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#64 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#43 AT&T Holmdel Computer Center films, 1973 Unix
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#58 As an IBM'er just like the Marines only a few good men and women make the cut,
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#81 How Criticizing in Private Undermines Your Team - Harvard Business Review
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#58 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#19 It was 30 Years Ago Today
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#49 Internet Mainframe Forums Considered Harmful
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#11 50th anniversary S/360 coming up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#52 Bridgestone Sues IBM For $600 Million Over Allegedly 'Defective' System That Plunged The Company Into 'Chaos'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#21 23Jun1969 Unbundling Announcement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#24 Tandem Memos
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#47 Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#81 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#7 You can make your workplace 'happy'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#68 Decimation of the valuation of IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#140 IBM Continues To Crumble
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#170 IBM Continues To Crumble
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#80 Here's how a retired submarine captain would save IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#48 IBM's One Hundred Year History Is About Cash, Culture and Mutualism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#9 PROFS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#20 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#60 [Poll] Computing favorities
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#80 Term "Open Systems" (as Sometimes Currently Used) is Dead -- Who's with Me?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#98 PROFS & GML
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#67 IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#49 Strategy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#4 You count as an old-timer if (was Re: Origin of the phrase "XYZZY")
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#72 Fridays
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#76 PROFS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#106 Blogs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#0 IBM is Absolutely Down For The Count
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#9 IBM email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#56 Is the IBM Official Alumni Group becoming a ghost town? Why?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#91 IBM Jargon and General Computing Dictionary Tenth Edition
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#31 Erich Bloch, IBM pioneer who later led National Science Foundation, dies at 91

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Trump to sign cyber security order

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Trump to sign cyber security order
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 11:04:32 -0800
Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> writes:
Agencies need a success criteria. Get them used to measuring themselves against it. Both the organisation and the individuals. They will still veer off course but the people inside will bring the agency back under the next head.

GAO has actual done such for Sarbanes-Oxley & SEC ... but it has essentially been totally ignored.

Claims for Sarbanes-Oxley were that it would prevent future ENRONs and guarantee executives and auditors did jailtime, but it required SEC to do something. Apparently because even GAO didn't believe SEC was doing anything, it started doing reports of public company fraudulent financial filings, even showed that they increased after SOX goes into effect ... and nobody doing jailtime. SOX also required that SEC do something about the credit rating agencies ... which were one of the primary enablers for the economic mess.

regulations, agencies, laws, and politicians ... document/evaluate objectives/claims against actual results. claims that congress knew that SEC wouldn't do anything for SOX ... so that SOX was all a public *show* ... aka "Kabuki Theater" ... what you see has very little to do with what actually goes on
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#kabuki.theater

Similar to stories about what went on for Dodd-Frank ... many of the provisions were authored by wallstreet lobbyists ... some that they could turn around and ridicule to discredit the process and others that were enormously complex that made it impossible to create effective regulation. recent refs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#95 Trump, Wall Street and the "banking caucus" ready to rip apart Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#96 Trump, Wall Street and the "banking caucus" ready to rip apart Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#0 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#3 Trump, Wall Street and the "banking caucus" ready to rip apart Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#4 OT: Trump Moves to Roll Back Obama-Era Financial Regulations
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#5 Trump to sign cyber security order

Also, the claims are that the DNC response to Sanders' lawsuit is that "fair" and "truth" have no legal standing with respect to politics (politicians have no legal requirement to be either fair or truthful) ... a posterchild is that they have (also) exempted themselves from "insider trading" laws.

the graph about upswing in inequality started around 1980 ... corresponding with rise of Milton Friedman, deregulation, and regulatory capture (regulations that couldn't be made to go away, they just ignored)
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/09/04/opinion/04reich-graphic.html
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#inequality

recent posts about Kahneman (a psychologist) getting Nobel Prize in economics, in part for debunking Friedman's theories involving rational man
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#24 Destruction of the Middle Class
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#26 Milton Friedman's Cherished Theory Is Laid to Rest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#66 Deep learning algorithm does as well as dermatologists in identifying skin cancer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#92 Trump's Rollback of the Neoliberal Market State
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#93 The Undoing Project: A Friendship That Changed Our Minds Kindle Edition
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#97 Trump to sign cyber security order

congress still requires real human voters (corporations are not yet people that have the vote, like "city of london") ... so for major disasters, congress has to at least appear like they are doing something ("city of london" corporate influence heavily involved in tax havens and money laundering, 9k human voters, 32+k "corporate" voters)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering

Major *success failure* ... along the lines of the rapidly spreading *success of failure* culture last decade that went along with the massive increas in outsourcing
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/
70% of intelligence budget and over half the people
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failuree

a big factor in the outsourcing to "beltway bandits" was their acquisition by private equity, laws are that agencies can't lobby and companies can't use revenue from gov. contracts for lobbying. (recent fines for companies doing Hanford atomic cleanup for lobbying) ... however when they are owned by private equity companies, it obfuscates where the lobbying money is coming from (there have been references that congress expects 10% of such congressional appropriations goes to "lobbying" ... split evenly between the lobbyist and congress, evidence all the members of congress that have become significantly wealthy after becoming member of congress).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

the major secuirity leaks (in the news) out of intelligence community have been by employees of for-profit operations owned by private equity companies. major gov. "breaches" have been at outsourced operations owned by private equity companies.

A major presidential campaign plank in 2008 was to bring the enormous out-sourced operations that happened last decade, back in house .... it didn't happen ... in large part because congress would needed to shift appropriations from out-sourced contracts (where they can effectively get a kickback) to gov. agencies.

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Trump to sign cyber security order

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Trump to sign cyber security order
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 14:59:09 -0800
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
Claims for Sarbanes-Oxley were that it would prevent future ENRONs and guarantee executives and auditors did jailtime, but it required SEC to do something. Apparently because even GAO didn't believe SEC was doing anything, it started doing reports of public company fraudulent financial filings, even showed that they increased after SOX goes into effect ... and nobody doing jailtime. SOX also required that SEC do something about the credit rating agencies ... which were one of the primary enablers for the economic mess.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud.fraud


re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#11 Trump to sign cyber security order

The old vitriol about SOX was that it enormously increased the cost of audits. Joke was that congress felt so bad about one of the big audit houses going out of business over the illegal activity at ENRON
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron

that the SOX audits were a "full employment" gift to the audit industry.

After SOX goes into effect, I'm invited to an EU conference of EU CEOs and exchange presidents on how EU companies were being contaminated by SOX when they deal with US companies. I basically give a talk on how the increased audit requirements weren't going to turn up any significant additional fraud ... its all a facade/farce ... more Kabuki Theater
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#kabuki.theater

old reference
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#42 The Godfather of Kathmandu
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#34 Mitt Romney avoids U.S tax by using Offshore bank accounts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#45 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#64 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#91 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#54 How do we take political considerations into account in the OODA-Loop?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#52 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#65 In the Trump Era, Leaking and Whistleblowing Are More Urgent, and More Noble, Than Ever

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Trump to sign cyber security order

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Trump to sign cyber security order
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 11:51:49 -0800
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
And a measurement of success could be the amount of money brought in via fines, penalties and law suit settlements.

Studies find that big money special interest by far dominate discussions/influence with regulator agencies:

Empirical studies confirm that the regulatory process itself is also skewed in favor of special interest groups. Start with the notice and comment process: In a study of 30 rules and nearly 1,700 comments during the period from 1994 to 2001, political scientists found that business interests submitted more than 57 percent of the comments, compared with 6 percent from public interest groups.7 The study's analysis showed that while business commenters have influence over the substance of final rules, nonbusiness commenters do not. Further, the more business commenters there are, the greater their influence. Another study looked at the Environmental Protection Agency's, or EPA's, rulemakings on air toxics emission standards for more than 100 industries. It found that industry provided 81 percent of comments, compared with 4 percent from public interest groups.

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in the case of financial ... the sham of "deferred prosecution" and fines is just window dressing for the public ("Kabuki Theater") ... the joke has become that the fines (even billions of dollars) are so small compared to the amounts involved that it is just being viewed as cost of running a criminal enterprise.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#kabuki.theater

another issue on the part of Dodd-Frank (Dodd was one of the "friends of angelo" ... angelo is #1 on times list of those responsible for economic mess) ... is the excessive regulation for small community banks. The unregulated risky investment banking was major force behind the economic mess ... Glass-Steagall had kept unregulated risky investment banking activity separate from regulated safety&soundness of regulated depository institutions. Repeal of Glass-Steagall allowed combining large investment banking to contaminate regulated depository institutions ... creating too big to fail ... when unregulated investment banking was going to take down the institution ... rather than let it fail ... the excuse was to keep them alive in order to save the depository institutions. This results in "moral hazard" ... the risky investment banking gambling gets the wins ... but the public pay for their losses.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

The choice was either reinstitute Glass-Steagall and don't allow depository institutions to deal in risky gambling ... or regulate the big mega too big to fail to minimize the effect that their gambling losses will on the depository operation. The publicity of Dodd-Frank regulations unfair burden on small community banking are either 1) fabricated alternate facts or 2) the wallstreet lobbyists were able to sneak in articles what would affect small community banks as part of discrediting the process (as they were found to be doing in other cases). Small community banks don't have large investment banks that need to have their risky gambling activities regulated.

Congress passes laws that government agencies are suppose to enforce. Part of that processes has government agencies specifying regulations that would enforce the congressional laws.

Big money interests extensive lobby congress in various ways regarding the laws ... and if they don't get everything they want there (or congress has to pass certain laws as part of "Kabuki Theater" for the public) ... then the big money interests lobby/capture the regulatory agencies that are responsible for enforcing the laws passed by congress.

In the late 1800s, the big wallstreet banks sent out something like 30,000-50,000 letters to small community banks to ask that they contact their congresssmen opposing some financial legislation (that would only affect the big wallstreet banks). The letters had alternate facts with fabricated explanations why the legislation would affect the small community banks.

Triumphant plutocracy; the story of American public life from 1870 to 1920
http://archive.org/details/triumphantpluto00pettrich
loc754-62:
In 1872, the ring of bankers in New York sent the following circular to every bank in the United States: "Dear Sir: It is advisable to do all in your power to sustain such prominent daily and weekly newspapers, especially the agricultural and religious press, as will oppose the issuing of greenback paper money, and that you also withhold patronage or favors from all applicants who are not willing to oppose the Government issue of money. Let the Government issue the coin and the banks issue the paper money of the country, for then we can better protect each other. To repeal the law creating National Bank notes, or to restore to circulation the Government issue of money, will be to provide the people with money, and will therefore seriously affect your individual profit as bankers and lenders. See your Congressman at once, and engage him to support our interests that we may control legislation."
... snip ...

Big money interests spend huge amounts of money lobbying congress to prevent legislation that affect them, when the issues are so public that it can't be blocked ... then they help fabricate part of the legislation making it overly complex and contridictory ... reducing the probability it will affect them (and helping discredit the process). Then they attempt capture of the regulatory agencies responsible for implementating the legislation (minimizing the actual enforcement, congress gets the publicity for passing the legislation, but it is then nullified behind the scenes). When frontal assault on the process doesn't work for the big money interests ... then they use indirect approaches, discrediting the process and fabricating cases with real (like inserting unnecessary wording) or imaginary cases where it hurts the little guy.

In the financial world ... the ENRON case was so public that congress couldn't pass something ... so Sarbanes-Oxley was passed ... but it was nullified by capture of SEC not enforcing SOX (from GAO reports). Similar with Dodd-Frank ... but wording was extended so many things were contradictory and other things were expanded to institutions that weren't involved in investment banking risky gambling.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley

EPA regulations are suppose to implement congressional legislation for clean air & water. Big publicity problem for congress to repeal clean air & water legislation. So big money needs to misdirect ... either real & or fabricated EPA regulations that contribute little or nothing to clean air & water, minimizing the effect on their bottom line, but contributes to publicity to discredit the process.

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Trump to sign cyber security order

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Trump to sign cyber security order
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 13:00:29 -0800
hancock4 writes:
Defining "success" for government operations is a lot harder. For instance, was WW II a "success". On the surface it sure seems to be since we won. But could we have won at less cost of lives and treasure? How does one determine realistic and reasonable goals in war?

as
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#11 Trump to sign cyber security order

GAO effectively shows that apparently the only thing Sarbanes-Oxley (passed in the wake of ENRON) has done is provide full employment for the audit industry (after they took bad hit in the wake of the ENRON illegal activity) ... no executives and auditors jailed for public company fraudulent financial filings ... even showed fraud increases after SOX goes into effect.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud.fraud

there was recent article about how excellent US army managed to defeat the axis.

2/3rds of Japanese war effort was on mainland china (not against US) and 3/4ths of Russian war effort was against russia. The US and the other allies managed to defeat the other 25% of the rest of the German war effort after Russia managed to destroy majority of the front line troops.

there was reference to Roosevelt complaining that Churchill was constantly attempting to delay the invasion of the continent ... waiting until Russia and Germany had totally exhausted each other ... which would give Great Britain free hand on the continent and the middle east after the war. Roosevelt said that would result in the war continuing until 1947 ... which the American public wouldn't stand for.

In the battle of the bulge ... Patton was recommending that just let the German army advance with little opposition ... they would then out run their supply lines and could be rolled up with very little effort. The counter was they might reach the outskirts of Paris ... which would be poor politics ... so had to have big battles. Patton then was to attack one side of the base of the bulge ... while Montgomery attacked the other side of the base of the bulge ... which would cut off supply lines and prevent retreat (allowing all to be still captured). Montgomery never got around to attacking until most of the Germans had managed to escape ... which contributed to war lasting longer.

in any case ... WW2 was great victory for the military-industrial complex ... significantly enriching them, which was part of Eisenhower's warning about the military-industrial complex.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

More recently ... the rapidly spreading success of failure culture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failuree

makes more money than a success ... contributes to culture of "perpetual war" (never concluding hostilities)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war

also significantly enriches the military-industrial complex.

Justification for invading Iraq was first they supported Al-Qadea ... which they didn't, so then switched to Iraq had WMDs ... also it would only cost $50B. The wars are passing $5T ... 100 times greater ... and its not finished (enormous boost in revenue for the military-industry complex).

Cousin of White House chief of staff Card was dealing with Iraqis in the UN and given proof that the WMDs had been decomissioned, shared with several members in the administration and then was locked up in military hospital. Eventually got out and published this in 2010 (4yrs before the information was declassified)
https://www.amazon.com/EXTREME-PREJUDICE-Terrifying-Story-Patriot-ebook/dp/B004HYHBK2/

Decommissioned WMDs, tracing back to the US in the Iran-Iraqi war, were found early in the invasion ... but information was classified until fall of 2014
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html

and military-industrial-complex wanted a war so badly that corporate reps were telling former eastern block countries that if they voted for IRAQ2 invasion in the UN, they would get membership in NATO and (directed appropriation) USAID (can *ONLY* be used for purchase of modern US arms). and from the law of unintended consequences, invaders were told to bypass ammo dumps, looking for the WMDs
https://www.amazon.com/Prophets-War-Lockheed-Military-Industrial-ebook/dp/B0047T86BA/

when they got around to going back, million metric tons had evaporated ... some of which start showing up in IEDs, including taking out Abrams. Part of the claims are that Iraq had learned from Desert Storm to minimize targets for US air power.

picture here of earlier and future SECDEF dealing with Saddam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran-Iraq_war

CIA director was refusing to agree with "team b" analysis of Soviet military ... justifying significant DOD budget increase. The white house chief of staff replaces the CIA director with somebody that would go along with "team b".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_B

The chief of staff then resigns and becomes SECDEF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Rumsfeld
... and his assitant becomes becomes chief of staff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney

They are then dealing with Saddam in the Iran-Iraq war.

WMDs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#wmds
Team B
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#team.b

trivia: some of the same people involved in tobacco industry misdirection and later in the climate change misdirection were also involved with Team B ... mentioned here:
https://www.amazon.com/Merchants-Doubt-Handful-Scientists-Obscured-ebook/dp/B003RRXXO8/

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Trump to sign cyber security order

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Trump to sign cyber security order
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 13:23:25 -0800
hancock4 writes:
There was just a news account how the modern day Western Union paid a fine for involvement. The W/U counter has signs stating money will not be sent to certain places due to high scams.

recent post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#45 Western Union Admits Anti-Money Laundering and Consumer Fraud Violations, Forfeits $586 Million in Settlement with Justice Department and Federal Trade Commission

I mentioned before, WU was doing very poorly in the 90s and was acquired by First Financial. Then in the late 90s, WU became part of FDC (with merger of First Financial and FDC, FDC was created in 1992, when AMEX spun off a lot of its dataprocessing and outsourcing in the largest IPO up until that time). As part of the merger, FDC had to divest moneygram.

After the start of the century, With the enormous explosion in illegal workers sending money home, WU revenue balloned until it was half of FDC bottom line by 2005 ... at which time FDC spun-off WU in IPO (possibly contributing motivation was invitation to FDC executives from the Mexican President to visit Mexico and be thrown in jail).

trivia: around the turn of the century I did some optimization work on an FDC 500k statement Cobol program that was used for credit card processing that ran on over 40 of IBM's maximum configured mainframes (over billion dollars, at the time, FDC was doing outsourced handling of over half of all credit cards in the US; statements, call-centers, making&issuing cards, transaction processing, etc). They constantly turned over all the mainframes, getting the largest and faster, no mainframe older than 18 months.

They had group of something like 80 people managing the performance of the care&feeding of this application for decades. They were doing primarily hot-spot and code revenue. At the science center in the 70s, worked on performance with hot-spot, event modeling/simulators, and multiple regression analysis. Since they had been extensively been using hot-spot, I did some multiple regression analysis which turned up some macro structural issues, fixing resulted in 14% throughput improvement.

This datacenter had also paid an engineering company to redesign the most popular datacenter PDU product to significantly improve its operation and turned the results over free to the PDU maker (justified by they needed a much improved product). It quickly becomes the dominant PDU installed in US large datacenters.

past posts mentioning 500k statement cobol program
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#14 Legacy clearing threat to OTC derivatives warns State Street
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#18 System/360--50 years--the future?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#24 System/360--50 years--the future?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#56 Under what circumstances
would it be a mistake to migrate applications/workload off the mainframe?

past posts mentioning PDUs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#82 write rings
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#85 Mainframe power failure (somehow morphed from Re: write rings)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#61 Where do the filesystem and RAID system belong?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001d.html#15 on-card key generation for smart card
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#44 Calculating a Gigalapse
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#62 ibm icecube -- return of watercooling?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#6 how to set up a computer system
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#64 Transactions for Industrial Strength Programming
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005m.html#41 IBM's mini computers--lack thereof
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#41 COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#4 Is SUN going to become x86'ed ??
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#63 Little bit OT IBM & Air NZ outage report to stay Top Secret
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#78 Software that breaks computer hardware( was:IBM 029 service manual )
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#26 EPO's (Emergency Power Off)

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Trump to sign cyber security order
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 14:12:42 -0800
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
CIA director was refusing to agree with "team b" analysis of Soviet military ... justifying significant DOD budget increase. The white house chief of staff replaces the CIA director with somebody that would go along with "team b".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_B


re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#14 Trump to sign cyber security order

those involved turn up in the 80s involved in Iran-Iraq war and dealing with Saddam.

However, the VP (and former CIA director) says he knows nothing of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_affair
because he was fulltime administration point person deregulating financial industry ... creating S&L crisis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
along with other members of his family
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan
and another
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0D81E3BF937A25753C1A966958260

Republicans and Saudis bailing out the Bushes

another family member presides over the economic mess 70 times larger than the S&L crisis (actually presides over both the economic mess and the start of fabricated & perpetual wars). S&L crisis had 1000 criminal convictions with jailtime, proportionally the economic mess should have 70,000.

However,
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#7 OT: Trump Moves to Roll Back Obama-Era Financial Regulations

spring 2008, wharton business school article estimates only 1,000 people are responsible for 80% of the economic mess (which doesn't crash until the following fall) ... and it would go a long way towards rectifying the situation if they could be separated from their jobs.

trivia: somewhat how small the community is ... this recent post mentioning FDC spun off from AMEX, acquires WU, then spins off WU (after the start of the century when its revenue explodes on illegal worker sending payments home).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#15 Trump to sign cyber security order

President of AMEX is in competition to be next CEO and wins.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
Looser leaves, taking their protegee to Baltimore and takes over what was described as loan sharking business. They make some more acquisitions eventually acquiring CITIBANK in violation of Glass-Steagall ... recent reference to CITIBANK
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#6 OT: Trump Moves to Roll Back Obama-Era Financial Regulations
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm

Greenspan
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#greenspan

gives them exemption while they lobby congress for repeal of glass-steagall (enabling too big to fail)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

enlisting the aid of several ... including SECTREAS (& former head of Goldman) ... as soon as final ball is rolling on GLBA, SECTREAS resigns and becomes what is described at the time as co-CEO of CITI. The SECTREAS is replaced by their protegee ... who also shows up in this reference about the Rise of Putin
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#7 Malicious Cyber Activity

The protegee to the head of CITI (dating back to AMEX days) leaves citi and becomes CEO of another TBTF, Chase (and is still CEO of Chase). Recent post mentioning CITI and CHASE are two of the four largest TBTF carrying $5.2T in (triple-A rated) off-book toxic assets end of 2008
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#7 Malicious Cyber Activity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#8 "Too big to fail" was Malicious Cyber Activity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#31 Milton Friedman's Cherished Theory Is Laid to Rest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#33 Moody's Agrees to Settle Financial Crisis-Era Claims for $864 Million
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#92 Trump's Rollback of the Neoliberal Market State
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#96 Trump, Wall Street and the "banking caucus" ready to rip apart Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#0 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#6 OT: Trump Moves to Roll Back Obama-Era Financial Regulations

and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

AMEX and KKR were in competition for LBO, private-equity take-over of RJR and KKR wins.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarians_at_the_Gate:_The_Fall_of_RJR_Nabisco

KKR runs into trouble and hires away the president of AMEX to help turn it around. IBM has gone into the red and was being reorganized into the 13 "baby blues" in preparation for breaking up the company. The board then brings in the former president of AMEX to turn the company around ... using some of the same techniques used at RJR
https://web.archive.org/web/20181019074906/http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml

Then former president of AMEX leaves IBM and becomes head of one of the other large private-equity companies ... which will do LBO of beltway bandit that will employ Snowden
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/

After FDC does IPO spin-off of WU, KKR does an LBO of the remaining part of FDC in the largest private-equity LBO up until that time (15 years after FDC had been spunoff from AMEX in the largest IPO up until that time) posts mentioning private-equity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

another recent WU post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#45 Western Union Admits Anti-Money Laundering and Consumer Fraud Violations, Forfeits $586 Million in Settlement with Justice Department and Federal Trade Commission

money laundering posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Trump to sign cyber security order
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 15:04:13 -0800
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
KKR runs into trouble and hires away the president of AMEX to help turn it around. IBM has gone into the red and was being reorganized into the 13 "baby blues" in preparation for breaking up the company. The board then brings in the former president of AMEX to turn the company around ... using some of the same techniques used at RJR
https://web.archive.org/web/20181019074906/http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml


re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#16 Trump to sign cyber security order

interesting(?) development

Donald Trump's Executive Order Will Let Private Equity Funds Drain Your
https://theintercept.com/2017/02/06/donald-trumps-executive-order-will-let-private-equity-funds-drain-your-401k/

Large firms like Carlyle, Blackstone, Partners Group, and Kohlberg Kravitz Roberts (KKR) have developed a series of 401(k)-friendly products over the past couple years. Most enable plan advisers to offer private equity stakes to investors as part of a "target fund," in a diversified portfolio with other investments.

... snip ...

Friedman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Friedman

Friedman promoted an alternative macroeconomic viewpoint known as "monetarism", and argued that a steady, small expansion of the money supply was the preferred policy.[12] His ideas concerning monetary policy, taxation, privatization and deregulation influenced government policies, especially during the 1980s.

... snip ...

Economists and the Powerful: Convenient Theories, Distorted Facts, Ample Rewards
https://www.amazon.com/Economists-Powerful-Convenient-Distorted-Economics-ebook/dp/B01B4X4KOS/

loc1200-1206:

There are plenty of examples from other countries to copy: the US individual retirement account system is based on the Chilean pension reform of 1980/81 that in turn was based heavily on proposals made in the book Capitalism and Freedom by Milton Friedman. In response to the Chilean system facing a likely collapse in a few decades time, it was substantially overhauled in 2008 to require mandatory participation of all citizens in exchange for universal pension coverage.

... snip ...

The Undoing Project: A Friendship That Changed Our Minds
https://www.amazon.com/Undoing-Project-Friendship-Changed-Minds-ebook/dp/B01GI6S7EK/

goes into some detail how Kahneman and Tversky disproved Economists' assumption that people make rational decisions ... loc1155-59:

He had listened to an American economist talk about how so-and-so was stupid and so-and-so was a fool, then said, "All your economic models are premised on people being smart and rational, and yet all the people you know are idiots."

... snip ...

Kahneman (a psychologist) gets Nobel Price in economics, in part for debunking Friedman economic theories that assumed rational people.

401(k)s are retirement robbery
http://www.salon.com/2014/05/10/401ks_are_retirement_robbery_how_the_koch_brothers_wall_street_and_politicians_conspire_to_drain_social_security/

private equity are notorious for draining funds ... companies currently or formally in private equity mill are responsible for over half of corporate defaults
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/business/economy/05simmons.html?_r=0

AMEX and KKR are in competition for take-over of RJR, KKR wins but runs into trouble and hires away the president of AMEX to help
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarians_at_the_Gate:_The_Fall_of_RJR_Nabisco

and then uses same again at IBM
https://web.archive.org/web/20181019074906/http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml

goes on to head up Carlyle
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
posts referencing pensions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#pensions

private equity posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

recent posts mentioning Friedman and/or Kahneman:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#17 Destruction of the Middle Class
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#24 Destruction of the Middle Class
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#26 Milton Friedman's Cherished Theory Is Laid to Rest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#29 Milton Friedman's Cherished Theory Is Laid to Rest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#31 Milton Friedman's Cherished Theory Is Laid to Rest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#34 If economists want to be trusted again, they should learn to tell jokes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#66 Deep learning algorithm does as well as dermatologists in identifying skin cancer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#92 Trump's Rollback of the Neoliberal Market State
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#93 The Undoing Project: A Friendship That Changed Our Minds Kindle Edition
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#97 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#101 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#102 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#104 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#11 Trump to sign cyber security order

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Pre-internet email and usenet (was Re: How to choose the best news server for this newsgroup in 40tude Dialog?)

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Pre-internet email and usenet (was Re: How to choose the best news server for this newsgroup in 40tude Dialog?)
Newsgroups: alt.free.newsservers, news.software.readers,
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Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 18:18:30 -0800
Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> writes:
Early (1980s) email used the Bang! path method to identify the route a message would take from one user to another - so a usenet Path header preserves an obsolete form of email address which it uses for a different purpose. The Bang! path works over sneakernet or direct client to server or server to server dial-up connections such as existed before packet-switching networks were implemented (also in the 1980s).

I'd forgotten that. I used to exchange emails with other users on my company's mainframe, before there was an internet; we could get emails to and from people outside our internal system too - by special arrangement and instructing the admins where and how to send the outgoing messages. The Bang! addresses for such contacts could be quite long. I think 'HP Desk' was the first software we used for that; later we had 'Microsoft Mail' which could operate with personal computers connected in a LAN.

See <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UUCP> for more information.


the ibm internal network
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

was larger than arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until sometime mid-80s. At the time the arpanet did its cutover to internetworking protocol on 1Jan1983, arpanet had approx. 100 IMPs and 250 connected hosts ... while the internal network was quickly approaching 1000 nodes. Old list of corporate locations that added one or more nodes during 1983:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#8 Arpa address

parts of past discussions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/internet.htm

including this old email discussing (phonenet) gateway to CSNET
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/internet.htm#email821022
also
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#email821022

... which was before the cutover to internetworking protocol, mentions ARPANET, TeleNet (GTE) and Phonenet.

other email about transition from host/imp protocol to internetworking protocol ... mentions the 250 hosts (that were connected to the approx 100 IMP network nodes)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#email821230

followup to csnet mailing list ... mentions some of the difficulties they were having in the transition to internetworking protocol (comments that the TCP transition was a lot more trouble than the ARPANET people had anticipate)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#email830202

trivia ... TYMSHARE started offering their vm370/cms based online computer conferencing system for free to the (ibm user group) SHARE as VMSHARE in Aug1976 ... archives here
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare
sometimes(?) "404" ... but also at wayback machine
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/

some old email including referencing setting up process where TYMSHARE monthly shipped me a tape with copy of all VMSHARE files
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vmshare

UUCP
http://docstore.mik.ua/orelly/networking/puis/ch15_02.htm

mentions, three versions of V2 UUCP written in 77 by Lesk, Nowitz, and Chesson; then HDB/BNU and then the (free) Taylor UUCP.

In the 80s, Chesson was at SGI and did XTP protocol ... and I was on the XTP technical advisery board ... random XTP stuff
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#xtphsp

old email exchange with somebody at UCB (thru the csnet gateway) that includes some numbere of bangs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#email830113

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Trump to sign cyber security order

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Trump to sign cyber security order
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 18:33:04 -0800
Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> writes:
Probably, but the morally wrong criteria.

especially when they are running trillion dollar scams and getting billion dollar fines ... origin of the references that the fines are just being viewed as cost of running criminal business.

pure Kabuki Theater for the public
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#kabuki.theater

past refs:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#86 Wells Fargo "Admits Deceiving" U.S. Government, Pays Record $1.2 Billion Settlement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#0 Why Is the Obama Administration Trying to Keep 11,000 Documents Sealed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#109 Why Aren't Any Bankers in Prison for Causing the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#27 Economic Mess
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#45 Western Union Admits Anti-Money Laundering and Consumer Fraud Violations, Forfeits $586 Million in Settlement with Justice Department and Federal Trade Commission

spring of 2009, IRS had press that they were going after 52,000 wealthy americans that owed $400B in taxes on money illegally stashed overseas. spring of 2011, new congress announces that they are eliminating the budget for the IRS organization responsible for recovering those taxes (and tax evasion fines). Since then there have been periodic announcements that the large banks that facilitated getting the money out of the country, have been fined (in aggregate) a few billion ... but there hasn't been anything about recovery of the $400B.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion

what is even more remarkable ... is that illegal $400B tax evasion last decade is in addition to the $6T in tax loopholes that congress created in the same time frame. 2002, congress lets the fiscal responsibility act expire (spending can't exceed tax revenue). 2010 CBO report that 2003-2009, taxes revenue was reduced by $6T and spending was increased by $6T, for a $12T gap compared to fiscal responsibility act (around $2T/yr). Since then spending has been somewhat reduced, but taxes not restored, so deficit continues to increase (around trillion/year) so debt is $20T (and interest on the debt is approaching $500B/yr).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act

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Pre-internet email and usenet (was Re: How to choose the best news server for this newsgroup in 40tude Dialog?)

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Pre-internet email and usenet (was Re: How to choose the best news server for this newsgroup in 40tude Dialog?)
Newsgroups: alt.free.newsservers, news.software.readers,
 alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2017 09:36:42 -0800
Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> writes:
Before direct tcp connections the sending hosts needed a way to avoid making message loops, and the method was to inspect the Path: string, and if the potentially receiving host was mentioned it was already there, and could be skipped. (Should be skipped. As the ethernet broadcast storms tell, it does not take much to take down a network if there is a loop somewhere).

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#18 Pre-internet email and usenet (was Re: How to choose the best news server for this newsgroup in 40tude Dialog?)

sunday before 1988 interop (4 parallel) floor network starting crashing and continued almost until the start of the show before there was resolution to the packet forwarding storm

the "fix" was then incorporated into RFC 1122 ("Requirements for Internet Hosts -- Communication Layers", also STD3) ... that default is *NOT* to forward packets.

misc past posts mentioning interop88
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#interop88

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Subject: Re: Pre-internet email and usenet (was Re: How to choose the best news server for this newsgroup in 40tude Dialog?)
Newsgroups: alt.free.newsservers, news.software.readers,
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Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2017 10:05:34 -0800
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> writes:
Sneakernet: Ha ha. It was just too difficult to train carrier pigeons to fly those reels of tape from one site to the next, even within the same campus.

In email, we're using the Received headers for the same purpose, although the route doesn't usually have to be agreed upon in advance, except for a special circumstance of a host not directly connected to the Internet. Received headers are rather verbose.

I hope Usenet retains bang path. It's more elegant.


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https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#18 Pre-internet email and usenet (was Re: How to choose the best news server for this newsgroup in 40tude Dialog?)

I got a free (full) usenet satellite feed from pagesat for writing a couple different drivers and doing article for boardwatch magazine. It started out with 9.6baud for full feed ... but as the traffic in certain kind of graphic images exploded, they upgraded to 19.2baud

i was called into as consultant at a small client/server startup that wanted to do payment transactions on their server, they had also invented this technology they called SSL they wanted to use, the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce".

Part of was working out service and availability ... both for the webserver to payment networks and from clients (browsers) to (high availability) webservers ... aka no-single-point-of-failure, replicated servers, replicated paths. Initially started out with advertising multiple routes ... but while this was going on ... internet backbone was making transition to hierarchical routing ... and advertising multiple routes no longer would be effective. I then had to move to multiple A-records (hostname mapping to multiple ip-addresses).

I had complete control over the webserver to payment networks ... but could only recommend on the browser to webserver. Classes I gave on multiple-A record support to the browser people ... they complained was too hard (even when i demonstrated code from bsd tahoe&reno clients). It took another year before I got the browser people to deploy multiple a-record support.

The payment network center was accustomed to doing 1st level problem determination on connections issues (from customers, with circuit based connections) in 5mins. The first major webserver internet pilot had early problem and after 3hrs of problem resolution, it was closed as NTF (no trouble found). I then had to write a bunch of problem determination software and resolution process manual ... to try and bring internet environment up to standard business level.

Besides multiple a-record ... there was a bunch of security issues that I could mandate for the webserver/payment network side ... but were almost immediately violated on the browser/webserver side ... which continue to account for some number of exploits that continue to this day.

In the late 90s, visiting major webhosting doing electronic commerce. They mentioned that they were hosting ten commercial operations that all had more activity per month than the top rated site in the monthly public activity listing ... and just happened to specialize in the type of images that had earlier flooded usenet (and had no interest in participating in the public sweepstakes). They also had ten of the top software servers on the internet. They also mentioned that the customers of software servers had the highest fraud activity on the internet ... while the fraud level by customers of image servers was almost non-existent (reference to ethics of software customers was significantly worse than ethics of the image customers).

past pagesat refs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#39 I'll Be! Al Gore DID Invent the Internet After All ! NOT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#66 UUCP email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005l.html#20 Newsgroups (Was Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#11 An Out-of-the-Main Activity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#77 Memory Mapped Vs I/O Mapped Vs others
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#19 Another one bites the dust
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#21 Disksize history question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#70 What is the protocal for GMT offset in SMTP (e-mail) header
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#82 [OT] What is the protocal for GMT offset in SMTP (e-mail) header time-stamp?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#92 The PC industry is heading for collapse
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#26 Anyone here run UUCP?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#57 email security re: hotmail.com
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#109 25 Years: How the Web began
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#59 The Forgotten World of BBS Door Games - Slideshow from PCMag.com

past multiple-a record posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#32 comp.arch has made itself a sitting duck for spam
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#41 Follow up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#76 towards https everywhere and strict transport security (was: Has there been a change in US banking regulations recently?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#24 A question about HTTPS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#14 Can anybody give me a clear idea about Cloud Computing in MAINFRAME ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#68 PC/mainframe browser(s) was Re: 360/20, was 1132 printer history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#61 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#45 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#24 The real story of how the Internet became so vulnerable
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#49 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)

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Trump to sign cyber security order

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Trump to sign cyber security order
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2017 10:36:21 -0800
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
I'm not as concerned about $$$ crooks as I am about having the agriculture business destroyed. The energy business was also an Obama administration target. It reminds me of the tale about lemmings.

there are a lot of recent news that developments in solar power has dropped the price per kilowatt below coal ... making it problematic that there is much point in eliminating pollution standards to increase coal company profits. Lots of publicity was paid for framing the anti-pollution laws as putting the black lung miners out of work.
https://qz.com/871907/2016-was-the-year-solar-panels-finally-became-cheaper-than-fossil-fuels-just-wait-for-2017/

The runoff from huge increase in agriculture use of chemicals have killed Chesapeake bay and other places. Ten years ago, feds appropriated a billion dollars to pay for fixing the runoff problem for Chesapeake bay ... for some reason the billion dollars disappeared w/o anything being done. Recently a couple more billion was appropriated to pay agriculture to fix the runoff problem ... making no reference that they had previously already been paid to do it and just pocketed the money.

This goes into subject that family farms are caught between big corporate suppliers and big corporate buyers (and blaming EPA is obfuscation and misdirection)
http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2013/09/does-corporate-farming-exist-barely

A farm scholar once asked an agribusiness executive when his corporation would simply take over the farms. The exec said that it would be dumb for the corporation to do so, in that it is not free to exploit its employees to the degree that farmers are willing to exploit themselves.

... snip ...

aka big corporations can squeeze the family famers ... harking back to serfs in medieval times ... and in part using obfuscation and misdirection trying to focus on government regulations.

recent posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#103 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#104 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#5 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#13 Trump to sign cyber security order

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IBM "Breakup"

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: IBM "Breakup"
Date: 07 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook
The primary IBM gov. business, FSD (federal systems division) was sold to Loral in 1993
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/14/business/ibm-to-sell-its-military-unit-to-loral.html

IBM had gone into the red and was being reorganized into the 13 baby blues in preparation for breaking up the company, then the board brought in the former president of AMEX to reverse the breakup and resurrect the company. Lots of pieces were sold off at fire sale prices to raise money.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner

AMEX had been in competition with KKR to do LBO of RJR and KKR wins. KKR then hires away the president of AMEX to help turn RJR around. Then IBM board hires him to help with IBM, using some of the same techniques used at RJR
https://web.archive.org/web/20181019074906/http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml

He then leaves IBM to head up one of the other large private-equity companies ... industry went on spree last decade buying up beltway bandits and lobbying congress for gov. outsourcing ... 70% of intelligence budget and over half the people ... including the company that will employ Snowden
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/

Both KKR and Carlyle show up yesterday in this (in large part harking back to the "Retirement Heist")
https://theintercept.com/2017/02/06/donald-trumps-executive-order-will-let-private-equity-funds-drain-your-401k/

private-equity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

The major anti-trust was in the 60s ... resulting in the 23June1969 IBM unbundling announcement.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle

In the early 70s, IBM instituted the Future System project ... major objective was to advance state of the art so far ... and so tightly integrate the boxes that it would significantly raise the bar for clone makers. However the FS project was so all consuming that there were few products during this period, significantly contributing to clone makers gaining major market foothold). FS eventually failed w/o even being announced ... and afterwards had IBM rapidly scrambling trying to recover. Claims are that with the FS failure the culture change to make no waves and "sycophancy".
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

Another seismic shift was in the 90s and major focus on stock buybacks and executive compensation. Only trivial percent of bottom line is now boxes ... almost all software & services (and while total mainframe is now only 25% of revenue, it is 40% of profit, milking mainframe software cash cow)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#stock.buyback

All through the 80s, PCs was trivial part of IBM revenue ... most of it selling hundreds of thousands of PCs into large corporations as 3270 terminal emulation. The big explosion in the consumer market came with clones from Asia drastically reducing the price. Head of POK mainframe was sent to Boca to head it up (using mainframe strategies?). We use to joke that IBM was loosing $5 on every PS2 sold ... but were planning on making it up by selling in volume. Boca was doing all kind of business studies about price of machines. I distributed weekly posting from SJMN sunday news that had quantity one prices 1/3rd of what Boca was claiming in business plans.

Boca hired Dataquest (before merger with Gartner) to do study of PC market and what it would look like in the future. Person at Dataquest responsible for the study was a friend and asked me to participate (including video tapes of roundtable with silicon valley experts). I cleared it with my management and Dataquest promised to garble my identity so they wouldn't recognize me as the person regularly hassling them about their business plans.

past posts mentioning Dataquest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002k.html#55 Moore law
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004.html#34 Two subjects: 64-bit OS2/eCs, Innotek Products
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#21 What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#81 IBM to the PCM market
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#0 The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#60 more on (the new 40+ yr old) virtualization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#5 Houses
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#6 Houses
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#69 Intel's Future is integrated
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#62 How long before Microsoft goes the way of DEC (and in part, IBM)?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#10 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#78 SLIGHTLY OT - Home Computer of the Future (not IBM)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#47 First 5.25in 1GB drive?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#44 Slackware
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#4 IBM commitment to academia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#20 9th Feb 2014
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#24 IBM sells Intel server business, company is doomed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#26 upcoming TV show, "Halt & Catch Fire"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#46 Could this be the wrongest prediction of all time?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#94 What would Klinger look like in business attire?

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Disorder

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Disorder
Date: 08 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook
Antifragile: Things That Gain from Disorder
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0812979680/ref=nosim/globalguerril-20

As an undergraduate in the 60s ... one of the things I did was (virtual memory) page replacement algorithms. The academic literature at the time as about assuming "Least Recently Used" (i.e. what has not be used for the longest time is the most likely to also not be used in the future) and partitioning the ordered pages by task. I implemented this LRU algorithm but with global server instead of individual servers (sort of like single line at the bank waiting for multiple clerks with a line for short transactions versus a line for each clerk). I could easily show that the global server strategy outperformed the prevailing academic literature about partition local servers.

The other thing was that there were relatively frequent pathological cases involving LRU where the assumption was invalid, the most likely next page to be used was the one recently replaced under the LRU strategy (i.e. LRU terned out be performing the exact wrong selection). I created a slight of hand coding technique that ordered pages for replacement by LRU when LRU was outperforming unordered/random ... but would automagically fall back to unordered/random when LRU was making the wrong decisions. The switching between LRU/ordered and random/disoreder took advantage of side-effect that happened when LRU/ordered started performing poorly (there wasn't actual testing criteria, I ordered things so it just sort of automagically happened all by itself, taking advantage of side-effects of order performing poorly). posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#wsclock

I would proselytize that when there was insufficient/wrong information, random was better than ordered (since results could be exact opposite of expected) ... sort of corollary to Kahneman and Undoing Project; recent refs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#14 Japanese company replaces office workers with artificial intelligence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#24 Destruction of the Middle Class
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#26 Milton Friedman's Cherished Theory Is Laid to Rest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#29 Milton Friedman's Cherished Theory Is Laid to Rest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#66 Deep learning algorithm does as well as dermatologists in identifying skin cancer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#92 Trump's Rollback of the Neoliberal Market State
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#93 The Undoing Project: A Friendship That Changed Our Minds Kindle Edition
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#97 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#101 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#102 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#11 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#17 Trump to sign cyber security order

trivia: some 15yrs later, somebody was working on page replacement algorithms for their Stanford thesis (that was very much like what I had done in the 60s). The academic forces that were behind the 60s' "local" algorithms were heavily lobbying Stanford to not award the PHD (since it was contrary to their long held academic beliefs). Fortunately I had significant amount of apples-to-apples real-world comparisons showing that they were wrong. more trivia: the thesis adviser that was the object of the heavy academic lobby pressure to block awarding the PHD ... later went on to be president of Stanford. old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email821019
in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#46 The Future of CPUs: What's After Multi-Core?

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Trump to sign cyber security order

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Trump to sign cyber security order
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 18:21:21 -0800
Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> writes:
Permitting unelected bureaucrats to make regulations that have the force of law is an exceedingly bad idea. It always has been. I fully support President Trump's efforts to reign in the EPA and other out-of-control federal agencies.

agencies are required to make regulations to enforce laws passed by congress ... possibly posterchild is congresses laws against "insider trading" ... which required SEC to make regulations to enforce the law(s). The "insider trading" is somewhat egregious since congress exempted themselves from insider trading ... and big factor in many members entering congress with little or no wealth ... and manage to become multi-millioners

If congress hasn't like what an agency is doing, they can just change the laws.

Another posterchild was Sarbanes-Oxley, claims in congreess that it would guarantee executives and auditors did jailtime for fraudulent financial filings ... however it required SEC to do something. In this case congress gets publicity for passing a tough law in the wake of ENRON ... but SEC doesn't actually do anything. Since congress hasn't done anything about the increase in fraudulent financial filings ... apparently SEC is actually acting like congress wants. In the case of EPA, congress just has to change the laws to change what it wants EPA to do.

Criticizing regulators for doing what congress wants ... is obfuscation and misdirection.

Most of the time big special interests are paying congress for what they want along with "regulatory capture" .... making sure the agencies are populated with regulators that are also compromised by the big special interests (last decade the joke was Treasury was goldman-sachs branch office in washington).

All the people running agencies are appointed by the president and approved by legislature, treasury, dod, epa, hew, etc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_agencies_in_the_United_States

in addition, generals & flag officers require congressional approval
http://congressionalresearch.com/RS21714/document.php?study=Generals+and+Flag+Officers+Senior+Military+Officer+Confirmations

this has 1,212+353+680+1,403 needing approval by congress
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_appointments_in_the_United_States

<WARNING: computer related> there was a joke in the late 90s, about an agency that was looking at 5k-10k or so cyber & crypto geeks, that in order to compete with industry, they would have to be paid a salary that put them at at level requiring each to have congressional approval ... approval workload which would totally break the congressional infrastructure.

Really increasing last decade were members of congress have worst attendance record in history (since start of the country)
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/12/does-your-congressman-show-up-for-work.html
... they fly home on thursday, fly back on tuesday ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2012/07/13/13-reasons-why-this-is-the-worst-congress-ever/
and when in washington dc are suppose to spend 4-8hrs/day raising money (dailing for dollars)
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-are-members-of-congress-becoming-telemarketers/

because the problem has become so epidemic, they have reduced schedule for mondays and fridays.

this are recent posts about 80s S&L regulator that refused to do what was wanted to create the S&L crisis ... he was asked to resign so that somebody could be appointed that would agree.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#17 Destruction of the Middle Class
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#26 Milton Friedman's Cherished Theory Is Laid to Rest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#53 How Finance Behaves like a Parasite Toward the Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#99 Trump to sign cyber security order

folklore is that after the S&L crisis, the regulator is given one of the highest paid jobs on wallstreet as reward.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#s&l.crisis

the VP & former CIA director repeatedly claimed that he knew nothing about
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_affair
because he was fulltime administration point person deregulating financial industry ... creating S&L crisis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
along with other members of his family
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan
and another
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0D81E3BF937A25753C1A966958260

Republicans and Saudis bailing out the Bushes

another family member then presides over the economic mess 70 times larger than the S&L crisis. S&L crisis had 1000 criminal convictions with jailtime, proportionally the economic mess should have 70,000.

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Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 09:34:52 -0800
Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/administrator/Virtualization/importance-today/

The CP67 installed at the university didn't have LRU ... is was sort of FIFO ... I did the work for LRU

As an undergraduate in the 60s ... one of the things I did was (virtual memory) page replacement algorithms. The academic literature at the time was about Local "Least Recently Used" (i.e. what has not be used for the longest time is the most likely to also not be used in the future) and partitioning the ordered pages by task. I did "Global" LRU and had lots of data showing Global LRU out performing Local LRU.

The other thing was that there were relatively frequent pathological cases involving LRU where the assumption was invalid, the most likely next page to be used was the one recently replaced under the LRU strategy (i.e. LRU terned out be performing the exact wrong selection). I created a slight of hand coding technique that ordered pages for replacement by LRU when LRU was outperforming unordered/random ... but would automagically fall back to unordered/random when LRU was making the wrong decisions. The switching between LRU/ordered and random/disoreder took advantage of side-effect that happened when LRU/ordered started performing poorly (there wasn't actual testing criteria, I ordered things so it just sort of automagically happened all by itself, taking advantage of side-effects of order performing poorly). posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#wsclock

I would proselytize that when there was insufficient/wrong information, random was better than ordered (since results could be exact opposite of expected) ... sort of corollary to Kahneman and Undoing Project; recent refs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#14 Japanese company replaces office workers with artificial intelligence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#24 Destruction of the Middle Class
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#26 Milton Friedman's Cherished Theory Is Laid to Rest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#29 Milton Friedman's Cherished Theory Is Laid to Rest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#66 Deep learning algorithm does as well as dermatologists in identifying skin cancer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#92 Trump's Rollback of the Neoliberal Market State
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#93 The Undoing Project: A Friendship That Changed Our Minds Kindle Edition
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#97 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#101 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#102 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#11 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#17 Trump to sign cyber security order

trivia: some 15yrs later, somebody was working on page replacement algorithms for their Stanford thesis (that was very much like what I had done in the 60s). The academic forces that were behind the 60s' "local" algorithms were heavily lobbying Stanford to not award the PHD (since it was contrary to their long held academic beliefs). Fortunately I had significant amount of apples-to-apples real-world comparisons showing that they were wrong. more trivia: the thesis adviser that was the object of the heavy academic lobby pressure to block awarding the PHD ... later went on to be president of Stanford.

it was co-worker of Jim Gray at Tandem working on Stanford PHD ... and Jim knew I had done the work in the 60s ... and asked me if I could help. Even tho I did the work as undergraduate before joining IBM, IBM management blocked me from providing supporting information for nearly a year. Hopefully they weren't taking sides in the academic argument ... but possibly felt they were "punishing" me for various things. old mail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email821019
in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#46 The Future of CPUs: What's After Multi-Core?

other email about Global LRU
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#globallru

recent similar post on ordered/random
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#24 Disorder

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Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 10:45:50 -0800
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#26 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance

x-over from facebook ...

CP67 Release 1 delivered in Jan1968 to the university had no thrashing control and all pages were ordered by physical address (CORETABLE) and page fault would search all of CORETABLE for page belonging to non-running task ... and if none found pick first available page.

Release 2 update in spring 1968 had thrashing control done by (MIT) LIncoln Labs. It had a fixed limit on number of concurrent running tasks "in-queue" based on real storage size (fixed limits chosen based on Lincoln Labs avg. workload characteristics).

I rewrote scheduling to be dynamically adaptive based on workload and system configuration characteristics ... including dynamically updating estimate about how many real pages each task needed (and controlling page thrashing by limiting tasks "in-queue" by using the dynamic evaluating real storage requirements to run efficiently).

I rewrote page replacement to test & reset the page reference bits to implement a sort of Global LRU and then later added the mechanism to dynamically switch between LRU and random ... depending on how well LRU was doing.

I rewrote the I/O system ... standard I/O was scheduled purely FIFO. For all disk I/O I implemented ordered seek queuing which nearly doubled drive throughput ... and degraded much more gracefully as the length of the queue increased. Paging did single (FIFO) page transfer at a time. I changed that to chain and order all queued requests (for same arm position) to transfer maximum records per revolution. For fixed-head drums (head for each track), 2301 thruput with single FIFO was about 80pages/sec .... chained ordering increased up to max. media throughput about 270pages/sec.

For all of these, I also drastically reduced the pathlength to perform each of the operation (even tho the algoroithms had significantly better performance). Scheduling had been running around 10% of the processor and increasing proportionally with number of users. I reduced processor use for dynamic adaptive resource management to less than 1% and eliminated the overhead proportional to number of users.

For comparison, I did a lot of synthetic workload benchmarking with and w/o the changes. Later at IBM ... the CP67 group spun off from the science center and eventually moved out to old, vacant SBC bldg at Burlington Mall as they evolved into doing VM370. In the morph of CP67 to VM370, there was great simplification and lots of stuff was dropped including nearly all my stuff. I continued to work on my stuff and one of my hobbies was shipping & supporting enhanced operating systems for internal datacenters ... and eventually migrating a lot of work from CP67 to VM370.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech csc/vm (&/or sjr/vm) posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#cscvm

Part of the work included developing automatic benchmarking system that could vary workload and configuration. I could do synthetic workload benchmark that was ten times heavier than anybody normally sees in normal operation and always crashed VM370. I then had to totally rewrite VM370 serialization mechanisms in order to keep VM370 from predictably failing. I continued working on 360/370 stuff all during the "Future System" even periodically ridiculing what they were doing ... even claiming what I had running was better than some of their blue sky fantasizes. past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

The failure of FS contributed to decision to ship a load of my VM370 stuff in "CSC/VM" to customers. some old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email731212
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750102
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430

As part of release, a series of 2000 automated benchmarks were performed that took 3months elapsed time to run and varied configuration and workload to cover all possible cases.

Science Center was heavily into performance work, pioneering a lot of stuff that later becomes mainstream, for CP67 default processes were established that took measure of overall system and workload activity. Cambridge eventually had decade of this information. It also became standard for internal datacenters ... and science center was able to archive performance data from hundreds of other systems. There was lots of hot-spot analysis, event-based modeling, and analytical modeling. The analytical modeling and extensive configuration and workload information also evolves into capacity planning. A version of the analytical modeling (done in APL) was made available on (world-wide, online sales & marketing support) HONE as the performance predictor ... where SEs could obtain customer workload and configuration information and run it through the performance predictor, asking what-if questions about changes in configuration and workload.

For the 2000 benchmark a domain for observed configurations and workload activity was created. The first 1000 benchmarks were selected to evenly cover that domain ... including benchmarks were outside recorded domains. A version of the performance predictor was modified to select the next 1000 benchmarks dynamically looking for anomalies. Based on the first 1000 benchmarks, it would come up with a configuration/workload/parameter setting, predict what the benchmark would be, run the benchmark, compare it with the prediction ... and then do the next selection based all benchmarks already run (as well as how well actual benchmarks compared to predicted).

posts mentioning automatic benchmarking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#bench
posts mentioning HONE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

a few posts mentioning (HONE) performance predictor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#81 Percentage of code executed
that is user written was Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#8 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#15 Age
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#17 What non-IBM software products have been most significant to the mainframe's success
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#48 origin of 'fields'?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#63 Collection of APL documents
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#41 CPU utilization/forecasting
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#49 My first mainframe experience
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#63 JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#53 HONE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#50 Can any one tell about what is APL language
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#60 Hard Disk Drive Construction
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#27 System/360--50 years--the future?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#6 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#81 CPU time
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#83 CPU time
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#65 A New Performance Model ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#71 A New Performance Model
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#69 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#112 Is there a source for detailed, instruction-level performance info?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#36 Ransomware
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#54 CMS\APL
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#109 Bimodal Distribution
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#5 You count as an old-timer if (was Re: Origin of the phrase "XYZZY")

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Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 11:38:22 -0800
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#26 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#27 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance

another x-over from facebook ...

for a little more drift, this is old post with part of (IBM user group) SHARE presentation that I gave as undergraduate fall of 1968 ... deals with pathlength optimization that I did for running OS/360 under CP67
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#18 CP/67 & OS MFT14

Original CP/67 CPU overhead increased elapsed running time from 12.9 secs to 34.2secs per job (21.3 secs of overhead CPU). Pathlength optimization reduced elapsed running time to 17.4secs/job, CPU overhead reduced from 21.3sec to 3.9secs (lots of specific pathlengths reduced by factor of 100 times).

It also mentions doing careful sysgen of OS/360 to reduce standalone time from over 30secs/job to 12.9secs/job ... careful placements of datasets and PDS members on disk to optimized arm seek time and multi-track search time for PDS members. CP67 for "normal" OS would have looked less bad since instead of nearly tripling elapsed time (12.9+21.3 to 34.2), it would have less than doubled elapsed time (35+21.3 to 56.9). The CP67 pathlength enhancements for standard system would have been 35+3.9 to 38.9secs ... compared to 12.9+3.9 to 17.4secs (careful OS/360 sysgen and disk ordering significantly reduced wait time to run the jobs).

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Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 16:58:01 -0800
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#26 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#27 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#28 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance

and couple more x-over from facebook ...

One of the things part of 370 was 2k page size for smaller memory machines and 4k page size for larger memory machines ... trade-off between how fine granularity management required versus efficiency of management. Moving to 1mbyte and larger memory for lowend machines ... found that VS1 (with 2k page management) could faster under VM370 (with 4k page management) by configuring the VS1 virtual machine size to be the same as the VS1 virtual address space size (so VS1 didn't have to page, left to VM370). Of course I also had a better page replacement algorithm and much shorter pathlength in VM370 (than VS1 implementation).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#wsclock

Current size and latency to memory is comparable to 60s disks ... i.e. current latency to memory when measured in count of processor cycles ... is comparable to latency to 60s disks when measured in 60s processor cycles. Current processor caches are the memories of the 60s ... and some amount of processor cache strategy discussions have similarities to the 60s virtual memory strategies.

The staging of things in and out of memory is now more equivalent to the large automated tape libraries that staged to/from disk.

Note that the Global LRU compared to Local LRU shows up not just with processor memory paging. At SJR we did a modification to VM370 that had super efficient mechanism for tracking disk accesses (for both VM370 itself and all access by virtual machines) ... and a modeling system that looked at different caching strategies. Given a fixed amount of electronic store .... a single system global disk cache always outperformed partitioning that storage ... into either channel level caches, controller level caches and/or disk level caches (aka "Local" LRU).

I had also done the original version of CMSBACK ... and was deployed widely inside of IBM (and was precursor of workstation datasave shipped ... eventually becomes ADSM and since renamed TSM). One of the things that the model also uncovered was that there was some amount of continuously used system data. However, there was also large amount of data ... in several distinct files that had high collective use on periodic basis (once a day, weekly, monthly). All the files should be archived together and staged together. posts mentioning backup/archive
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#backup

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Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 19:07:49 -0800
Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/administrator/Virtualization/importance-today/

The CP67 installed at the university didn't have LRU ... is was sort of FIFO ... I did the work for LRU

extended additional discussion on linkedin, facebook, and (usenet) alt.folklore.computers newsgroup ... some archived here
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#26 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#27 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#28 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#29 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance

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Spy Agencies Should Kick the Contractor Habit

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Spy Agencies Should Kick the Contractor Habit
Date: 09 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook
Spy Agencies Should Kick the Contractor Habit
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-09/spy-agencies-should-kick-the-contractor-habit

70% of budget, over half the people, for-profit beltway bandits owned by private-equity companies
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us
and the rapidly spreading Success of Failure culture
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/

Success of Failure posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failure
Private Equity Posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

other recent

Former NSA contractor indicted for hoarding classified documents
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/02/09/Former-NSA-contractor-indicted-for-hoarding-classified-documents/6301486624863/
NSA Contractor Could Face 200 Years in Prison for Massive Breach
https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/08/nsa-contractor-could-face-200-years-in-prison-for-massive-breach/
Former NSA contractor facing 200 years for stolen docs
http://fifthdomain.com/2017/02/08/former-nsa-contractor-facing-200-years-for-stolen-docs/
Former NSA contractor indicted in maybe the largest heist of classified information ever
http://www.businessinsider.com/former-nsa-contractor-indicted-in-maybe-the-largest-heist-of-classified-information-ever-2017-2
Contractor indicted for stealing spy secrets
https://fcw.com/articles/2017/02/09/nsa-contractor-indict.aspx

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Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
Date: 10 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#26 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#27 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#28 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#29 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#30 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance

Mid-70s my dynamic resource management and scheduling to bottleneck ... it was becoming clear that real storage was becoming less & less of bottleneck. I started writing various things on the subject. In the early 80s some disk division executive took exception with item I wrote about how since the cp67 days (360/67 & 2314s), disk relative system throughput had declined by an order of magnitude (processor & memory resources increased by 40-50 times while disk throughput only increased by 3-5 times) ... and directed division performance group to refute the claim. old posting with part of claim (from early 80s)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/93.html#31

They worked on it for a few weeks and come back saying that I had effectively slightly understated the issue. They evenutally respin the analysis for SHARE "B874" presentation with recommendations on how to configure disks to improve system throughput (including some techniques that i had used for os/360 sysgen in the 60s). old post with summary from Share 63, B874 (8/18/84)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#46

trivia: IBM's original two 3880 controller caches ... 3880-11 8mbyte 4k record cache (tailored for 4k paging) and 3880-13 8mbyte full-track cache. The 3880-13 announcement had sequential read of records (10 records to 3880 track) showing 90% "hit rate". What they didn't say was that sequential read would "miss" on the first record for a track ... and then the next nine records would be a "hit". If the software changed from single record at a time to full-track read, the 3880-13 numbers would change from 90% hit rate to zero hit rate.

I also had ongoing skirmish over the support of the 3880-11. Typical configuration was 3081 with 32mbytes of memory and 2-3 3880-11 with 16mbytes-24mbytes cache (aggregate). I documented that every page miss in 3081 memory likely be a miss in 3880-11 cache. It would be read and then occupy both the 3081 memory and the 3880-11 cache. Since the 3081 memory was larger than the 3880-11 cache, it would never need the page in the 3880-11 cache. I called this a duplicate algorithm. I came up with a no-duplicate algorithm where there was never a page in the 3880-11 that was also in the 3081 memory ... so there was some chance that the 3880-11 might be of some use (cache used for records that weren't also always in mainframe memory). I've had several opportunities over last 10-20yrs to repeat strategy behind dup/no-dup

In the wake of FS failure (mid-70s), head of POK convinced corporate to kill VM370 product and transfer all the people from Burlington to POK ... or otherwise POK wouldn't ship MVS/XA on time (sometime 1st half 80s). Endicott managed to save VM370 mission but had to reconsitute a development group from scratch. Some in POK did virtual machine facility for MVS/XA development (that was never intended to ship to customers). Later when customers weren't migrating from MVS to MVS/XA as planned ... they came out with the internal tools as "migration aid" to help move the customers.

The IBM Kingston group then wanted to turn the migration aid into the official VM/XA product ... and was justifying a huge development group and long range plan to try and upgrade the migration aid up to feature, function and performance of vm370. Almost unfortunately, somebody n Rochester added full XA support to VM370 ... eliminating the need for the IBM Kingston effort ... but in the resulting politics between POK/Kingston (VM/XA with huge effort) and Endicott (with full VM/XA already done), Endicott (lost again).

past posts mentioning B874:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#18 AS/400 and MVS - clarification please
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#46 AS/400 and MVS - clarification please
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#3 using 3390 mod-9s
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#68 DASD Response Time (on antique 3390?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#5 Poster of computer hardware events?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#71 308x Processors - was "Mainframe articles"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#7 My Vintage Dream PC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#34 A Complete History Of Mainframe Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#52 Hercules; more information requested
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#67 ACP, One of the Oldest Open Source Apps
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#1 "The Naked Mainframe" (Forbes Security Article)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#70 25 reasons why hardware is still hot at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#31 Wax ON Wax OFF -- Tuning VSAM considerations
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#32 OS idling
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#33 History of Hard-coded Offsets
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#18 Mainframe Slang terms
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#35 CKD DASD
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#61 Speed of Old Hard Disks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#1 Multiple Virtual Memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#5 Why are organizations sticking with mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#32 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#73 Tape vs DASD - Speed/time/CPU utilization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#39 A bit of IBM System 360 nostalgia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#62 ISO documentation of IBM 3375, 3380 and 3390 track format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#72 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made 30 years agotoday
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#90 What's the difference between doing performance in a mainframe environment versus doing in others
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#87 Death of spinning disk?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#0 Miniskirts and mainframes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#110 Is there a source for detailed, instruction-level performance info?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#12 You count as an old-timer if (was Re: Origin of the phrase "XYZZY")
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#21 What was a 3314?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#68 Raspberry Pi 3?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#38 How the internet was invented
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#40 Floating point registers or general purpose registers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#43 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#45 Resurrected! Paul Allen's tech team brings 50-year-old supercomputer back from the dead

past posts mentioning 3880-11/Ironwood and/or "dup/nodup" algorithm:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/93.html#13 managing large amounts of vm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#13 4341 was "Is a VAX a mainframe?"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#18 Disk caching and file systems. Disk history...people forget
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001d.html#68 I/O contention
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#53 mainframe question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#54 mainframe question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#55 mainframe question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#63 MVS History (all parts)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#10 hollow files in unix filesystems?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#20 index searching
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#55 Storage Virtualization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#11 What are some impressive page rates?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002f.html#20 Blade architectures
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002o.html#3 PLX
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002o.html#52 ''Detrimental'' Disk Allocation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#7 Disk drives as commodities. Was Re: Yamhill
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003f.html#5 Alpha performance, why?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003o.html#62 1teraflops cell processor possible?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004g.html#13 Infiniband - practicalities for small clusters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004g.html#17 Infiniband - practicalities for small clusters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004g.html#18 Infiniband - practicalities for small clusters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004g.html#20 Infiniband - practicalities for small clusters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004h.html#19 fast check for binary zeroes in memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004i.html#1 Hard disk architecture: are outer cylinders still faster than inner cylinders?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#29 FW: Looking for Disk Calc program/Exec
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005c.html#27 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005m.html#28 IBM's mini computers--lack thereof
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005m.html#30 Massive i/o
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#50 non ECC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#8 IBM 610 workstation computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#46 Hercules 3.04 announcement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006e.html#45 using 3390 mod-9s
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006i.html#41 virtual memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#11 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#14 virtual memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#32 Why magnetic drums was/are worse than disks ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#31 MB to Cyl Conversion
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#35 The Future of CPUs: What's After Multi-Core?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#0 old discussion of disk controller chache
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#12 Special characters in passwords was Re: RACF - Password rules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#23 How many 36-bit Unix ports in the old days?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#38 FBA rant
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#42 FBA rant
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#60 FBA rant
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#61 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#15 Flash memory arrays
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#52 Throwaway cores
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#19 Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#41 American Airlines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#80 How to calculate effective page fault service time?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#39 The Internet's 100 Oldest Dot-Com Domains
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#11 Secret Service plans IT reboot
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#47 locate mode, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#11 Mainframe Executive article on the death of tape
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#55 Mainframe Executive article on the death of tape
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#73 Interesting presentation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#20 How to analyze a volume's access by dataset
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#14 Mainframe Slang terms
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#67 Speed of Old Hard Disks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#68 Speed of Old Hard Disks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#70 Speed of Old Hard Disks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#79 I'd forgotten what a 2305 looked like
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#34 nested LRU schemes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#47 nested LRU schemes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#75 megabytes per second
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#3 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#96 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#18 June 1985 email

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Trump to sign cyber security order

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Trump to sign cyber security order
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 10:19:43 -0800
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:

http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2013/09/does-corporate-farming-exist-barely

A farm scholar once asked an agribusiness executive when his corporation would simply take over the farms. The exec said that it would be dumb for the corporation to do so, in that it is not free to exploit its employees to the degree that farmers are willing to exploit themselves.

... snip ...

aka big corporations can squeeze the family famers ... harking back to serfs in medieval times ... and in part using obfuscation and misdirection trying to focus on government regulations.


The Next American Farm Bust Is Upon Us; Shrinking role in global grain market coupled with a strong dollar and higher costs for seeds drives U.S. farmers out of business; overflowing bunkers
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-next-american-farm-bust-is-upon-us-1486572488

The End of Scarcity in Agricultural Commodities Means Failing Farms in the U.S.
https://bigpictureagriculture.blogspot.com/2017/02/the-end-of-scarcity-in-agricultural.html

Though some investment "gurus" have for many years been touting farmland as the best long term investment because "they're not making it anymore," those "gurus" were wrong because 180 million new acres went into production globally this past decade, and, in actuality, there are millions of acres more that could be cultivated in the future. U.S. farmers are facing serious competition from emerging grain production powerhouses. The ethanol commodity price surge was a short lived phenomenon due to supply and demand economics.

... snip ...

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Good News and Bad News at Hanford, America's Most Polluted Site

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Good News and Bad News at Hanford, America's Most Polluted Site
Date: 10 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook
Good News and Bad News at Hanford, America's Most Polluted Site
http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/02/09/good-news-and-bad-news-at-hanford-americas-most-polluted-site/

"Twenty years and $19 billion later, Hanford is still a nightmare -- likely the most toxic site in the Western Hemisphere. Not one ounce of nuclear waste has ever been treated, and there are no indications Hanford will be nuke free anytime soon."

... snip ...

Part of the enormous outsourcing last decade ... 70% of the intelligence budget and over half the people ... including Snowden and others
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us

The Profiteers: Bechtel and the Men Who Built the World
https://www.amazon.com/Profiteers-Bechtel-Men-Built-World-ebook/dp/B010MHAHV2/

about hanford, loc4296-98:

In 2000 Bechtel received the $4.3 billion deal for the cleanup, which the company estimated would cost $14 billion to complete. But eleven years later, with the job still uncompleted, Bechtel predicted that the final cost would be more than $120 billion.

about outsourcing of DOE labs, loc4288-91:

A congressional commission, led by former undersecretary of the army Norman Augustine and retired admiral Richard Mies, concluded in 2014 that the privatization of the nuclear weapons laboratories had resulted in a "dysfunctional management and operations relationship," and "uneven collaboration with customers"--the "customers" being the DOE.

... snip ...

one of the issues was they let the oldest and most experience ... and also highest paid go, increasing profit margin ... possibly assuming the fall of the wall met that the labs would just fade into the sunset and they would be free to maximize their profit. Also recent campaign talk about eliminating DOE possibly didn't realize that large parts had already been privatized

Bechtel and Los Alamos National Laboratory: The Privatization of the Nuclear Industry
https://lajicarita.wordpress.com/2012/03/30/bechtel-and-los-alamos-national-laboratory-the-privatization-of-the-nuclear-industry/
Nuclear Workers Deserve Better from Bechtel
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joanne-doroshow/nuclear-workers-deserve-b_b_6902776.html
"The Department of Energy is the largest military and weapons racket in the U.S. Government."
https://pando.com/2016/04/06/profiteer/
It's a Bumpy Ride to Private Management for Los Alamos, Livermore
https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/201006/losalamos.cfm
Investigative reporter details Bechtel's influence
http://www.santafenewmexican.com/pasatiempo/books/readings_signings/investigative-reporter-details-bechtel-s-influence/article_7520013c-32ad-5af8-b836-5ba9c8710b5d.html

past posts mentioning Bechtel:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#3 Smedley Butler
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#6 The Profiteers: Bechtel and the Men Who Built the World
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#11 Smedley Butler
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#18 The Winds of Reform
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#23 Nixon and the war
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#38 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#82 Gov. Privatization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#67 Trump White House Senior Staff Have Private RNC Email Accounts

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Former CIA Analyst Sues Defense Department to Vindicate NSA Whistleblowers

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Former CIA Analyst Sues Defense Department to Vindicate NSA Whistleblowers
Date: 10 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook
Former CIA Analyst Sues Defense Department to Vindicate NSA Whistleblowers
https://theintercept.com/2017/02/10/former-cia-analyst-sues-defense-department-to-vindicate-nsa-whistleblowers/

"Loomis says he thinks those redactions were more for the sake of Hayden's reputation than protecting real classified information. He eventually documented the saga in a self-published book called 'NSAs Transformation: An Executive Branch Black Eye.'"

... snip ...

Success of Failure
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/
and outsourcing, 70% of budget and over half the people
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us
Thomas Drake
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/government-elections-politics/united-states-of-secrets/the-frontline-interview-thomas-drake/

we were possibly tangentially involved ... although we didn't know it at the time. There was unclassified BAA from IC-ARDA (now IARPA) that basically said that nothing they had did the job ... and we got a call just before it closed, asking if we could get a response in (nobody else had responded). We got a response in, had a couple of meetings summer 2002, showing we could do what was needed, and then nothing. It wasn't until we saw the success of failure article, that we began to suspect what was going on.

success of failure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failuree
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#whistleblower

past posts mentioning IC-ARDA:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#57 Beyond Snowden: A New Year's Wish For A Better Debate
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#76 Should New Limits Be Put on N.S.A. Surveillance?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#12 5 Unnerving Documents Showing Ties Between Greenwald, Omidyar & Booz Allen Hamilton
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#66 F-35 JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER IS A LEMON
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#85 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#47 Stolen F-35 Secrets Now Showing Up in China's Stealth Fighter
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#54 How do we take political considerations into account in the OODA-Loop?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#61 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#72 George W. Bush: Still the worst; A new study ranks Bush near the very bottom in history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#20 Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#26 Gerstner after IBM becomes Carlyle chairman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#32 (External):Re: IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#39 Failure as a Way of Life; The logic of lost wars and military-industrial boondoggles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#62 The NSA's back door has given every US secret to our enemies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#40 Misc. Success of Failure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#96 This Is How The US Government Destroys The Lives Of Patriotic Whistleblowers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#64 Improving Congress's oversight of the intelligence community

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IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 10 Feb 2017 20:29:58 -0800
charlesm@MCN.ORG (Charles Mills) writes:
independently of z/VM, but that is no longer true.

I'm quite familiar architecturally with CMS. Yes, it is in one sense an operating system. If I drew a picture of z/VM with a bunch of guests, CMS would be a peer to VSE, z/OS and Linux, all of which are no-doubt-about-it operating systems. So yes, it must be an OS. It's a funny beast of an OS: a single-user operating system for a mainframe! OTOH, the way people use it it is more like a single TSO session than an operating system. It is more of a single-user terminal session than an OS. And yes, it no longer can be IPLed on the hardware, so a purist might say that disqualifies it as an operating system right there. What kind of operating system requires an operating system in order to run?

Would not the proper phrase be "run independently of CP"? CMS is a component of z/VM; it can't be independent of z/VM, it *is* z/VM.


original CMS was "cambridge monitor system" running stand-alone on 360/40. The same 360/40 had virtual memory hardware modifications to support developement of virtual machine cp/40 in parallel. When standard 360/67 with virtual memory became available, cp/40 morphs into cp/67 ... with CMS still running both stand-alone and in virtual machine ... cp40/cms development discussed here
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/cp40seas1982.txt
also mentioned in
http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/administrator/Virtualization/importance-today/
and my recent posting in this mailing list
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#30 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance

In the morph from CP67/CMS to VM370/CMS, they dropped and simplified a lot of CP67, change CMS name to conversational monitor system, and put test in CMS to cripple it from running on bare hardware.

In the early 80s, CMS under MVS had really bad performance ... not because of CMS ... but MVS structural issues ... vm370/cms could provide .1sec interactive cms response when MVS/CMS was 1sec or worse with similar workload on same hardware. Some people thought that CMS might fix the really bad TSO interactive characteristics ... but it wasn't so much TSO versus CMS ... but underlying MVS structural issues.

In the wake of failure of FS project in the mid-70s (never announced or shipped, FS would completely replace 360/370 and completely different and during FS, 370 projects were being shutdown, the lack of 370 products during the FS period is credited with clone makers gaining market foothold). In the wake of FS failure, there was mad rush to get 370 products back in the pipelines. 303x and 3081 were kicked off in paralle ... and head of POK managed to convince corporate to kill vm370/cms product and transfer all the vm370/cms to POK for MVS/XA work ... or otherwise MVS/XA wouldn't be able to meet ship schedule (well into the 1980s).

Endicott eventually managed to resurrect VM370/CMS product mission ... but had to reconstitute development group from scratch. Aside, Tymshare had started offering there CMS-based online computer conferencing to SHARE for free as VMSHARE in Aug1976. In the VMSHARE archives there are customer comments about code quality during this period as Endicott rebuilds a vm370/cms development group
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare
sometimes(?) "404" ... but also at wayback machine
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/

At the time of the VM370/CMS shutdown there was development of greatly expanded CMS support for MVS system services, read/write MVS (shared) disks, etc ... which all disappears with the shutdown .... which was just fine with POK. After Endicott resurrects VM370, they were much more interest in CMS having DOS/VS compatibility (than MVS compatibiity; aka DOS/VS system services).

With 4300s, Endicott manage to start making market position where large corporations were ordering multiple hundred 4300s at a time for placing out in departmental areas (sort of leading edge of coming distributed computing tsunami). This became such a large market, Endicott managed to get corporate to declare vm370/cms as the strategic interactive offering.

At the time, the only disks for placing out in non-datacenter environment were FBA, which MVS didn't support. The requirement was also for support where it was several tens of systems per support person ... rather than MVS requiring several people per system.

There was also late 70s, where customers were looking at 4341 cluster having higher throughput than 3033, more storage, more I/O, much lower environmentals, smaller footprint, and much lower cost. At one point POK felt so threatened that head of POK managed to get the allocation of critical 4341 manufacturing component cut in half.

I participated in 4341 bencharking for national lab that was looking at getting 70 for a compute farm ... sort of the precursor to the current cluster supercomputers

Some of the VM370/CMS people that went to POK, did do a virtual machine implementation to support MVS/XA development ... which was never intended to be released ... which contributed to idea for CMS under MVS. During the 80s when customers weren't migrating from MVS to MVS/XA like they were suppose to ... the internal tool was packaged as the migration aid to ... aid migration. Then POK had justification for a big group to bring the migration aid up to the feature, function, performance of VM370. At the same time, somebody inside IBM had added full 370-XA support to VM370. There was escalation between POK and Endicott over VM/XA, whether to have a large development group to bring migration aid up to vm370 level or to use the VM370 with XA support already running. For whatever reason, POK won.

When I was undergraduate at the university ... totally redid OS/360 sysgen ... part of old 68fall SHARE presentation:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#18 CP/67 & OS MFT14

Also rewrote a lot of CP67 code. Original CP67 CPU overhead increased elapsed running time from 12.9 secs to 34.2secs per job (21.3 secs of overhead CPU). CP67 pathlength optimization reduced elapsed running time to 17.4secs/job, CP67 CPU overhead reduced from 21.3sec to 3.9secs (lots of specific pathlengths reduced by factor of 100 times).

It also mentions doing careful sysgen of OS/360 to reduce standalone time from over 30secs/job to 12.9secs/job ... careful placements of datasets and PDS members on disk to optimized arm seek time and multi-track search time for PDS members. CP67 for "normal" OS would have looked less bad since instead of nearly tripling elapsed time (12.9+21.3 to 34.2), it would have less than doubled elapsed time (35+21.3 to 56.9). The CP67 pathlength enhancements for standard system would have been 35+3.9 to 38.9secs ... compared to 12.9+3.9 to 17.4secs (careful OS/360 sysgen and data ordering significantly reduced wait time to run the jobs).

Must of CMS CPU time was frequently CP67 doing disk I/O simulation (ala "CCWTRANS") ... I did a special disk CCW that CMS would use when running in virtual machine, cut that time by something like 80-90%. The people at science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

roundly critized me for violating 360 "architecture" ... if I was to do something that was virtual machine specific, I had to do it with the "diagnose" instruction ... which is defined as model dependent, and can have the fiction of virtual machine model. Thus was born diagnose I/O when running in virtual machine (later VM370 crippled CMS being able to run stand alone).

trivia, recent mention that "CCWTRANS" was also borrowed for moving MVT to OS/VS2
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#8 BSAM vs QSAM

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IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 10 Feb 2017 23:41:13 -0800
0000000433f07816-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.UA.EDU (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
Nowadays (or is it next year's model?), on the z, practically every one. Nothing will run without the PR/SM hypervisor.

In the twilight of Sun Microsystems, Sine Nomine ported OpenSolaris to z. It required z/VM for various assists.


re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#30 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#36 IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

I was involved in doing a lot of the work on ECPS (vm microcode assist) for 138/148 ... and then used in 4300. This is old post with the analysis choosing what to put into ECPS. We were told that 148 had 6kbytes of space for microcode ... and was to choose the top 6kbytes of vm370 kernel code for moving into microcode. 138/148 executed an avg. of 10 native, microcode instructions for every 370 instructions. Kernel code moved into microcode got 10:1 speedup. 6kbyte of vm370 kernel code accounted for 79.55% of kernel CPU use:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#21

Later I got approval to give presentation on ECPS development at (user group) BAYBUNCH (held monthly at SLAC). Afterwards the Amdahl attendees cornered me to explain what they were doing on something called HYPERVISOR (basically a subset of vm370 function incorporated totally into the machine).

One of the things Amdahl people mentioned was that hi-end processor horizontal microcode was difficult and frequently had long lead time. Ever since 3033, IBM had done been minor microcode features ... that if weren't present, operating systems wouldn't run. To help keep abreast of the IBM's constant flurry of minor microcode features ... they had come up with macrocode ... that was effectively close to 370 machine language ... and much simpler (& faster) to code than horizontal microcode but otherwise function like microcode. The hypervisor was being implemented in this macrocode ... which significantly reduced the development effort.

To remain competitive, the 3090 had to come up with their equivalent ... evenutally called PR/SM (and LPAR) .... but was a significantly bigger development effort (having to be done directly in horizontal microcode). This old email talks some about improvement for SIE (part of PR/SM) for trout (aka 3090) compared to 3081 (before they were faced with having to extend to PR/SM to match Amdahl's hypervisor)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#email810630
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#email831118

announce 12Feb1985 ...
https://web.archive.org/web/20230719145910/https://www.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_PP3090.html

trivia1: Endicott tried to get 370 138/148 announced as every machine ordered shipped with vm370 pre-installed (effectively akin to later PR/SM LPAR), but were overruled by POK/corporate

trivia2: above mentions needing two 3370 FBA (even for MVS/XA customers which never supported FBA), for the two 3092 service processors, a pair of 4361s running a modified version of vm370 release 6 (and all service panels done in CMS IOS3270).

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Trump to sign cyber security order

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Trump to sign cyber security order
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 08:32:46 -0800
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
Much like the common metric in software support - a count of issues resolved without any reference to whether or not they were resolved to the satisfaction of whoever raised them.

... also anticipating and preventing problems is lot less recognized/rewarded than dealing with problems. there was lots of money made off of anti-virus ... that had to be constantly updated to deal with the increasing flood of new forms.

I periodic mention being brought in as consult to small client server startup that wanted to do payment transactions on their servers, they had also invented this technology they called "SSL" they wanted to use, the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce". I had complete authority over the server to payment networks but only could recommend for client to server. Almos immediately some of the recommendations for the client/server part were violated, continuing to account for some number of exploits/vulnerabilities that continue to this day (the server/payment part hasn't had equivalent problems). The initial large webserver pilot did have issue. Payment trouble callcenter had metrics of 5min 1st level problem determination for their legacy circuit-based connections (dialed & leased). The (packet/internet) pilot developed connectivity issue and after 3hrs was closed as NTF (no trouble found). I had to develop a lot of software diagnostic and write a diagnostic process manual. some recent refs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#7 More IBM DASD RAS discussion
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#14 New words, language, metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#40 Misc. Success of Failure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#59 Funny error messages
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#107 How to Win the Cyberwar Against Russia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#33 OODA-loop and virtual machines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#49 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#4 OODA in IT Security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#8 Make companies pay full cost of breaches to restore trust in the internet, says ISOC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#87 [CM] 40 years of man page history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#27 History of Mainframe Cloud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#21 Pre-internet email and usenet (was Re: How to choose the best news server for this newsgroup in 40tude Dialog?)

and passed posts mentiong 1996 MCD at moscone where all the banners said "internet" ... but the constant refrain in all the sessions was "preserve your investment" ... aka the application paradigm that evolved for safe, closed, small business LANs was going to be extended to the wild anarchy of the internet ... w/o deployment of countermeasures.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#49 Virus propagation risks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#66 What is the protocal for GMT offset in SMTP (e-mail) header
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#15 Identifying Latest zOS Fixes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#59 The lost art of real programming
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#93 Where are all the old tech workers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#93 Gordon Crovitz: Who Really Invented the Internet?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#97 Gordon Crovitz: Who Really Invented the Internet?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#45 New HD
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#68 Steve B sees what investors think
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#10 It's all K&R's fault
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#11 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#23 weird trivia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#87 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#35 [Poll] Computing favorities
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#39 [Poll] Computing favorities
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#106 Computers anyone?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#69 Open DoD's Doors To Cyber Talent, Carter Asks Congress
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#79 Is it a lost cause?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#19 Is it a lost cause?

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Trump to sign cyber security order

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Trump to sign cyber security order
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 08:53:09 -0800
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
A common feature of pretty much all criminal organisations, it's probably possible to eliminate a great deal of criminal law by finding a way[1] to make that organisation structure illegal and enforcing it.

[1] OK that is almost certainly *very* hard to do - especially if you want to avoid making armies illegal[2].

[2] I'd love see that but it would need to be done globally and I don't see that happening any time soon (FVLV of soon).


VP and former CIA director claims no knowledge of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_affair
because he was fulltime administration point person deregulating financial industry ... creating S&L crisis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
along with other members of his family
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan
and another
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0D81E3BF937A25753C1A966958260

another family member then presides over the economic mess 70 times larger than the S&L crisis. S&L crisis had 1000 criminal convictions with jailtime, proportionally the economic mess should have 70,000.

They started out justifying not doing prosection with too big to fail meme ... leaning over backwards to keep them in business, although there were some articles about "moral hazard" ... that not being held accountable could result in fealing of entitlement and other fraudulent behavior
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

then when TBTF were caught money laundering for drug cartels and terrorists, references to too big to prosecute and too big to jail started to appear. Instead there was "deferred prosecution" and fines, however even the billion dollar fines were usually trivial part of amounts involved ... the joke became they were just viewed as cost of running criminal enterprise. some references
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#libor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

now there are references to the economic mess is water under the bridge and a the statute of limitation has expired for a lot of the economic mess fraud. from the law of unintended consequences, a lot of the TBTF could still be prosecutured under Sarbanes-Oxley (public company fraudulent financial reporting fraud)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
originally claimed to prevent future "ENRONs" and guarantee executives and auditors did jailtime
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron

however, it required SEC to do something, Possibly because even GAO didn't believe SEC was doing anything, GAO started doing reports of public company fraudulent financial filings (and nobody doing jailtime), even showing instances had increased after SOX went into effect
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud.fraud

misc. past posts mentioning "deferred prosecution"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#10 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#80 Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#23 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#44 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#47 Do we REALLY NEED all this regulatory oversight?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#36 Eric Holder, Wall Street Double Agent, Comes in From the Cold
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#37 LIBOR: History's Largest Financial Crime that the WSJ and NYT Would Like You to Forget
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#57 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#61 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#31 Talk of Criminally Prosecuting Corporations Up, Actual Prosecutions Down
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#44 rationality
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#47 rationality
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#65 Economic Mess
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#10 25 Years: How the Web began
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#0 Thanks Obama
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#73 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#29 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#41 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#99 Why Is the Obama Administration Trying to Keep 11,000 Documents Sealed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#109 Why Aren't Any Bankers in Prison for Causing the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#45 Western Union Admits Anti-Money Laundering and Consumer Fraud Violations, Forfeits $586 Million in Settlement with Justice Department and Federal Trade Commission
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#13 Trump to sign cyber security order

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Job Loyalty

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Job Loyalty
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 11 Feb 2017 10:54:26 -0800
balbouls@ATT.NET (Salah Balboul) writes:
This is "Capitalism", making money is king. Every large corporation tries to sell this "Job Loyalty" to workers, however, rest assured this is a one sided affair. They want you to be loyal.

Then again, think about it. When you start your employment at any company, the first thing you agree to is "At will employment", your employment with any company is a voluntary one subject to termination by you or company at WILL, with or without cause and with or without notice....etc.


June1940, Germany had a victory celebration at the NYC Waldorf-Astoria with major industrialists. Lots of them were there to hear how to do business with the Nazis
https://www.amazon.com/Man-Called-Intrepid-Incredible-Narrative-ebook/dp/B00V9QVE5O/

Later 5000 industrialists from across the US had conference at NYC Waldof-Astoria and in part because they had gotten such bad reputation for the depression and supporting Nazi Germany, they approved a major propaganda campaign to equate capitalism with Christianity
https://www.amazon.com/One-Nation-Under-God-Corporate-ebook/dp/B00PWX7R56/

Results in the 50s include adding "Under God" to the pledge of allegiance and "In God We Trust" to currency

AMEX is in competition with KKR for private-equity take-over of RJR. KKR wins, but runs into some trouble with RJR and hires away president of AMEX to help turn it around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarians_at_the_Gate:_The_Fall_of_RJR_Nabisco

IBM then has gone in the red and was being reorganized into the 13 "baby blues" in preparation to breaking up the company. The board then hires away the former president of AMEX to reverse the breakup and resurrect the comapny ... using some of the same techniques used at RJR.
https://web.archive.org/web/20181019074906/http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml

The industry had gotten such a bad reputation during the S&L crisis that they changed the industry name to private equity and "junk bonds" became "high yield bonds"

The former AMEX president then leaves IBM and becomes the head of another large private-equity company ... one of the take-overs is the beltway bandit that will employ Snowden, there was huge gov. outsourcing last decade to private equity owned subsidiaries; 70% of intelligence budget and over half the people
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/

Both KKR and Carlyle recently show up in this (in large part harking back to the "IBM Retirement Heist")
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/03/your-money/estate-planning/fiduciary-rule-is-now-in-question-whats-next-for-investors.html
and
https://theintercept.com/2017/02/06/donald-trumps-executive-order-will-let-private-equity-funds-drain-your-401k/

other

The Champions of the 401(k) Lament the Revolution They Started
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-champions-of-the-401-k-lament-the-revolution-they-started-1483382348?mod=e2fb

posts mentioning private equity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity
AMEX, Private Equity, IBM related Gerstner posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner

trivia: we had left IBM but get a call from somebody in the bowels of Armonk about helping with the breakup of IBM. Business units had MOUs with other divisions to work off their supplier contracts. With the units in different corporations, all these MOUs would have cataloged and turned into real contracts. Before we get started, the board has hired a new executive to reverse the breakup

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Trump to sign cyber security order

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Trump to sign cyber security order
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:15:04 -0800
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
A common feature of pretty much all criminal organisations, it's probably possible to eliminate a great deal of criminal law by finding a way[1] to make that organisation structure illegal and enforcing it.

[1] OK that is almost certainly *very* hard to do - especially if you want to avoid making armies illegal[2].

[2] I'd love see that but it would need to be done globally and I don't see that happening any time soon (FVLV of soon).


re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#39 Trump to sign cyber security order

I've periodically mentioned 2008 economist converence wherel (CBS?) broadcast a roundtable discussing US tax system & congress (major reason for comments about congress considered most corrupt institution on earth) ... enormous graft & corruption surrounding lobbying/buying tax loopholes. Much of the lobbying, graft & corruption would be eliminated going to flat tax system. Continuously selling new/added loopholes have greatly complicated the tax system ... claim that 6% of GDP could be gained by going to flat tax system ... and any economic problems with the loss of various loopholes would be more than made up by gaining back the 6% in GDP. They made jokes that tax prep interests (accounts, lawyers, commercial services, CPAs, etc) and the country of Ireland paying for major lobbying agaist such change. One of the big loopholes early last decade was exporting US profits to other countries where they had very, very low tax rate (major beneficiary was country of Ireland). They finished with even if the change was made to flat tax system, members of congress would come up with same other way to criminally extract money.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion

Note that 2002, congress lets the fiscal responsibility act lapse (spending can't exceed tax revenue, on its way to eliminating all federal debt). By 2005, US Comptroller General was including in speeches that nobody in congress could do middle school arithmetic (for how badly they were savaging the budget). 2010 CBO report that 2003-2009, tax revenue was cut by $6T and spending increased by $6T for $12T gap compared to fiscal responsible budget. Since then there is some cut in spending ... but no restoration of taxes ... so debt continues to increase ... just short of $20T ... and interest on debt pushing $.5T/year.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#comptroller.general

past posts mentioning economist round table discussing flat tax and enormous congressional graft and corruption
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#87 Fraud due to stupid failure to test for negative
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#43 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#20 China's yuan 'set to usurp US dollar' as world's reserve currency
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#13 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#88 taking down the machine - z9 series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#58 History--automated payroll processing by other than a computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#69 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#37 WHAT, WHY AND HOW - FRAUD, IMPACT OF AUDIT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#59 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#14 Rare Apple I computer sells for $216,000 in London
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#18 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#20 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#20 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#80 'Big four' accountants 'use knowledge of Treasury to help rich avoid tax'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#81 Ireland feels the heat from Apple tax row
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#86 How Wall Street Defanged Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#79 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#30 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#33 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#57 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#3 HP splits, again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#1 weird apple trivia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#52 Report: Tax Evasion, Avoidance Costs United States $100 Billion A Year
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#48 These are the companies abandoning the U.S. to dodge taxes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#80 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#96 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#13 1970--protesters seize computer center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#65 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#7 Study: Cost of U.S. Regulations Larger Than Germany's Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#6 Is it a lost cause?

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Trump to sign cyber security order

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Trump to sign cyber security order
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:13:42 -0800
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#103 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#104 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#5 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#13 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#22 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#25 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#33 Trump to sign cyber security order

Famers May Be Struggling, But They Enjoy a Generous Safety Net
https://www.yahoo.com/news/famers-may-struggling-enjoy-generous-192100684.html

Among the report's more salient findings: The U.S. share of the global market is less than half of what it was in the 1970s -- falling from 65 percent of the world's grain production to 30 percent today. A strong U.S. dollar is allowing overseas competitors to undercut U.S. prices. Some farmers are shutting down, raising the specter that the total number of U.S. farms may dip below two million for the first time

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Farmers Are Getting a Bumper Crop of Subsidies from the 2014 Farm Bill
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/11/27/Farmers-Are-Getting-Bumper-Crop-Subsidies-2014-Farm-Bill

The final agreement cut about $19 billion in farm programs over five years with one of the biggest breakthroughs being the elimination of so-called direct payments. Under the old law, producers of various crops would receive payments each year totaling about $5 billion -- regardless of the prevailing market prices or which crops, if any, they produced on eligible land.

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5 Things You Need to Know About the Farm Bill Deal
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2014/01/28/5-Things-You-Need-Know-About-Farm-Bill-Deal

Farm Subsidies -- The agreement cuts about $19 billion in farm programs over five years. One of the most significant changes is the elimination of so-called direct payments -- roughly $5 billion a year in generous payments to farmers and land owners regardless of whether they grow crops or not. The program has flourished since the late 1990s, and has drawn sharp condemnation from the Obama administration and lawmakers on both sides of the aisle as a prime example of government waste.

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when to get out???

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: when to get out???
Date: 13 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook
more than you ever wanted to know; late 90s, I was major author of X9.59 financial transaction standard in the X9A10 standards group. One of the other members was from NSCC (before they merged with DTC to form DTCC) and asked me in to look at improving the integrity of floor trades. I work on it for awhile and then get told it is being suspended. A side-effect of the integrity work would have greatly improved transparency and visibility, completely antithetical to wall street culture.

Old reference (before HFT taking hold) that market is manipulated, its illegal, but they have nothing to worry about
http://nypost.com/2007/03/20/cramer-reveals-a-bit-too-much/

Since then, there have been lots of references about HFT increasingly manipulating market ... like front-running customer transactions by a few milliseconds ... helping drive investors from the market ... conjecture that they try and leave something for normal investors, otherwise it just leaves the HFT players to thrash it out against each other (like parasite killing the host, HFT also pay for special links into market that are slightly faster than rest of players).

The Congressional Madoff hearings had the testimony from the man that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff (their hands were forced when he turned himself in, speculation that he was looking for government protection after defrauding some unsavory characters). Congress asked him if new regulations are needed, he said while new regulations may be needed, more important was transparency and visibility (since SEC seemed to be doing little about existing regulations).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff

Rhetoric on floor of congress was that Sarbanes-Oxley would prevent future ENRONs an guarantee executives and auditors would do jail time (but it required it SEC to do something). Possibly because even GAO didn't believe SEC was doing anything, GAO started doing reports of public company fraudulent financial filings, even showing uptic after SOX goes into effect (and nobody doing jail time)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud.fraud

1999, I was asked to try and help prevent the coming economic mess by improving the integrity of securitized mortgage supporting documents. Then they find they can pay the rating agencies for triple-A (even when both the sellers and rating agencies know they aren't worth triple-A, from Oct2008 congressional hearings into role rating agencies played). Triple-A trumps supporting documents and they can start doing no-documentation liar loans, triple-A largely enables being able to do $27T 2001-2008, including selling to funds that are restricted to dealing in "safe" investments. Less well known is that SOX also required SEC to do something about the rating agencies. From law of untended consequences: 1) spring 2008, some investors realize that rating agencies are selling triple-A and possibly no ratings can be trusted, it freezes the muni-bond market, Warren Buffett steps in with muni-bond insurance to unfreeze the market; 2) largest economic mess TBTF fines so far, are for the robo-signing mills fabricating the missing documents.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

2002, congress lets the fiscal responsibility act lapse (required that spending couldn't exceed tax revenue, on its way to eliminating all federal debt). 2010 CBO report that 2003-2009, tax revenue cut by $6T and spending increased by $6T for $12T gap compared to fiscal responsible budget (some spending cuts, no tax restored, on its way soon to $20T debt and half trillion in annual debt interest). Claim confluence of Federal Reserve and TBTF wanting large federal debt, special interests wanting huge increase in tax loopholes, military-industrial complex and others wanting huge increase in spending.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act

Claims that TARP was to be used for buying offbook toxic assets, however ye2008 just four largest TBTF were carrying $5.2T in off-book toxic assets (some had gone earlier in 2008 for 22cents on the dollar, if brought back on the books, institutions would have been declared insolvent and liquidated). TARP couldn't begin to cover problem, so was used for other things and Federal Reserved did bailout buying trillions in toxic assets at 98cents on the dollar and providing tens of trillions in ZIRP funds (claims that TBTF having been clearing $300B/annum using ZIRP funds buying treasuries, wouldn't work w/o large Federal debt). FED fought long hard legal battle to prevent disclosing what it was doing. When they lost, the chairman held press conference to say that he thought the TBTF would use ZIRP to help mainstreet, when they didn't, he had no way to force them (but that didn't stop ZIRP funds). Some of ZIRP is also borrowed by large corporate players for stock buybacks to help prop up the market.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fed.chairman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#zirp

Milton Friedman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Friedman

Friedman promoted an alternative macroeconomic viewpoint known as "monetarism", and argued that a steady, small expansion of the money supply was the preferred policy.[12] His ideas concerning monetary policy, taxation, privatization and deregulation influenced government policies, especially during the 1980s.

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Milton Friedman's Cherished Theory Is Laid to Rest
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-01-12/milton-friedman-s-cherished-theory-is-laid-to-rest

Even now, when economic models have become far more complex than anything in Friedman's time, economists still go back to Friedman's theory as a mental touchstone -- a fundamental intuition that guides the way they make their models. My first macroeconomics professor believed in it deeply and instinctively, and would even bring it up in department seminars.

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The Champions of the 401(k) Lament the Revolution They Started
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-champions-of-the-401-k-lament-the-revolution-they-started-1483382348?mod=e2fb

Economists and the Powerful: Convenient Theories, Distorted Facts, Ample Rewards
https://www.amazon.com/Economists-Powerful-Convenient-Distorted-Economics-ebook/dp/B01B4X4KOS/

loc1200-1206:

There are plenty of examples from other countries to copy: the US individual retirement account system is based on the Chilean pension reform of 1980/81 that in turn was based heavily on proposals made in the book Capitalism and Freedom by Milton Friedman. In response to the Chilean system facing a likely collapse in a few decades time, it was substantially overhauled in 2008 to require mandatory participation of all citizens in exchange for universal pension coverage.

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Donald Trump's Executive Order Will Let Private Equity Funds Drain Your 401(k)
https://theintercept.com/2017/02/06/donald-trumps-executive-order-will-let-private-equity-funds-drain-your-401k/

Large firms like Carlyle, Blackstone, Partners Group, and Kohlberg Kravitz Roberts (KKR) have developed a series of 401(k)-friendly products over the past couple years. Most enable plan advisers to offer private equity stakes to investors as part of a "target fund," in a diversified portfolio with other investments.

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"The Undoing Project" goes into some detail how Kahneman and Tversky disproved economists' assumption that people make rational decisions ... loc1155-59:

He had listened to an American economist talk about how so-and-so was stupid and so-and-so was a fool, then said, "All your economic models are premised on people being smart and rational, and yet all the people you know are idiots."

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Kahneman (a psychologist) gets Nobel prize in economics, in part for debunking Friedman's theories involving rational man

HFT players are like parasites .... they need to try and avoid driving real investors from the market ... or otherwise they have nothing to skim off of. The downside is that a lot of the players are considered sociopaths and get so focused on beating the other HFTs that they loose sight that they are killing the host (it is always a win-loose game).

Last decade, there were comments by TBTF executives that they had to be in on the dance and the important thing was timing to get out just before the collapse, Turns out they didn't ... but they didn't really have to worry ... they didn't get prosecuted and jailed. they got designated TBTF and bailed out (lots written about not held accountable results in "moral hazard" and jokes about fines are so small compared to the amounts involved, it is just cost of running criminal enterprise).

Stockman ... 80s budget director and claims credit for various manipulation of Social Security to use funds for DOD budget w/o appearing to increase taxes ... has written a lot about "blue-chip" companies increasingly using (borrowing for) stock-buybacks to prop up their stock price and prop up the market (collusion is that it helps keep investors in the market, and top executives bonuses are tied to stock price)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#stock.buyback

One of the SS issues is baby boomers (birth bubble) are 4 times larger than the previous generation and twice as large as following generation. During baby boomer prime working years, they were building up principle in SS Trust Fund ... however each year more was being paid in for baby boomer contributions than were being paid out in benefits to prior generation. As baby boomers retire the situation flips, there is no longer excess being paid in to subsidize gov. spending and the following generation will have significant tax obligation increase to 1) replace baby boomers (borrowed) benefits and 2) cover gov spending that previous were subsidized by baby boomer SS contributions.

If will almost be impossible for the following generation to return to fiscal responsibility act (spending can't exceed tax revenue). There is the trillion dollar/year in taxes that was cut after the act was allowed to lapse. They have huge tax obligation to replace money borrowed from the SS Trust Funds (for baby boomer benefits) and the spending that use to be subsidized by borrowing funds from the trust fund. There is the half trillion/year in interest on the debt ... and there is possibly half trillion/year to pay off current debt (would take 40years) ... pushing 3 trillion/year increase in taxes to try and return to status before letting fiscal responsible act lapse.

Stockman characterize stock-buybacks as sequence of (private-equity) mini-LBOs ... increasing corporate debt for purpose of pulling value out of the company w/o contributing anything to corporate value.

AMEX is in competition with KKR for private-equity take-over of RJR. KKR wins, but runs into some trouble with RJR and hires away president of AMEX to help turn it around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarians_at_the_Gate:_The_Fall_of_RJR_Nabisco

IBM has gone in the red and was being reorganized into the 13 "baby blues" in preparation to breaking up the company. The board then hires away the former president of AMEX to reverse the breakup and resurrect the comapny ... using some of the same techniques used at RJR.
https://web.archive.org/web/20181019074906/http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml
some posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
posts referencing pensions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#pensions

The former AMEX president then leaves IBM and becomes head of another large private-equity company ... one of the take-overs is the beltway bandit that will employ Snowden.
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us

private-equity companies are under enormous pressure to service the LBO debt dumped on their books, over half corporate defaults are companies currently or previously in private-equity mills, funny thing is the private-equity credit rating doesn't appear to suffer for the bad loans.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/business/economy/05simmons.html?_r=0

Donald Trump's Executive Order Will Let Private Equity Funds Drain Your 401(k)
https://theintercept.com/2017/02/06/donald-trumps-executive-order-will-let-private-equity-funds-drain-your-401k/

... harkens back to IBM Retirement Heist.

& from Stockman's "The Great Deformation: The Corruption of Capitalism in America" ... just one of the corporate examples pg464/loc9995-10000:

IBM was not the born-again growth machine trumpeted by the mob of Wall Street momo traders. It was actually a stock buyback contraption on steroids. During the five years ending in fiscal 2011, the company spent a staggering $67 billion repurchasing its own shares, a figure that was equal to 100 percent of its net income.

pg465/loc10014-17:

Total shareholder distributions, including dividends, amounted to $82 billion, or 122 percent, of net income over this five-year period. Likewise, during the last five years IBM spent less on capital investment than its depreciation and amortization charges, and also shrank its constant dollar spending for research and development by nearly 2 percent annually.

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Investors are riding on the margin that HFT are allowing ... and like the TBTF executives were saying they needed to dance and time their exit before the next crash (they failed to time their exit but they got bailed out)

I was in financial standards meeting hosted by large financial lobbying organization in DC. I was asked to leave the meeting to talk to somebody that was there to talk to me. I was then introduced to somebody from a NJ ethnic organization that said some investment bankers asked him to talk to me. I was very vocal criticizing some internet technology that was involved in upcoming IPO that the investment bankers were expecting $2B and my criticizing was projected to be 10% downside. It was nothing personal, purely business, but would I just shutup. I go to some Federal LEOs and they say that investment bankers are like that. They said some walked away from the S&L crisis "clean", where then doing Internet IPO mills (firms that would fail leaving field open for next round of IPOs), and were projected to next get into securitized mortgages.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#s&l.crisis

.... finally in response

Need to be a congressman member of financial committee, they dumped a lot of stocks in the days between the Greenspan briefing and the crash (members of congress are exempt from insider trading law)

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More on Mannix and the computer

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: More on Mannix and the computer
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:22:25 -0800
hancock4 writes:
Every place I ever worked out would not let a stranger wander around the computer room without being escorted. The receptionist would ask visitors who they wanted to see, and then call the person down to get the visitor. Most organizations were fussy about computer room security--this came from the auditors.

A great many large employers in the late 1960s had photo ID cards, and more so by the 1970s. Polaroid offered a kit to make ID cards and it was popular. I would surprised if a major company like DEC didn't give its people photo ID cards, especially those that called on customers. I also suspect DEC had some military or defense- contractor business, where security was quite tight.


science center allowed access for its online virtual machine service to non-employees from univ in the boston/cambridge area.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

science center also ported apl\360 to cms for cms\apl ... expanded worspace size from 16kbytes to virtual address space (up to 16mbytes) and added API to access cms systems services (inlucding doing file i/o) ... opening CMS\APL to some real world applications. One such was the business planners in armonk ... who loaded the most holy of corporate assets onto the machine, using APL for business modeling. We had to demonstrate super security ... physical access and well as online cyber security. posts mentioning HONE and/or APL
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

trivia: science center offices overlooked Land's balcony ... have watched him playing with unannounced (poloroid) products.

corporation also required all internal networks links to be encrypted (internal network was larger than arpanet from just beginning to some time mid-80s). This resulted in some amount of conflicts with various governments around the world turning on link encryptors. Mid-80s, major link ecryptor vendor claims that the internal network had more than half of all link encryptors in the world.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

I had HSDT project with T1 and faster speed links
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt

and really hated what I had to pay for T1 link encryptors and faster link encryptors were almost impossible to find. I got involved in doing encryption that was less than $100 to make and handled multiple megabytes/sec. The corporate crypto group first claimed that it was significantly weaker compared to crypto standard. It took me 3months to figure out how to explain that rather than weaker, it was significantly stronger. However, it was hollow victory, then was told that such crypto could only be used by one organization in the world, I could make as many as I wanted, but they all had to be sent to address in Maryland. This was when I realized that there were 3kinds of crypto in the world: 1) the kind they don't care about, 2) the kind you can't do, and 3) the kind you can only do for them.

some old crypto email ... includes analysis that running software mainframe DES would saturate both 3081K processors just handling single full-duplex T1 link.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#crypto

also late 70s, IBM brought legal action against somebody that acquired some new DASD trade-secrets, claiming value of a couple billion dollars. Judge eventually said that go forward, IBM had to show security procedures proporational to the claimed value (something like requiring fences around swimming pool to keep out minors, people can't be blamed for taking something so value if it is just laying around not sufficiently unprotected) ... basically security proportional to risk .... later I do some financial standard transaction work using security proportional to risk some posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#security.proportional.to.risk

some of it shows up in this patent portfolio
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadssummary.htm

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when to get out???

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: when to get out???
Date: 14 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#43 when to get out???

... well other (Reagan?) that went on in the 80s: VP and former CIA director repeatedly claims no knowledge of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_affair
because he was fulltime administration point person deregulating financial industry ... creating S&L crisis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
along with other members of his family
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan
and another
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0D81E3BF937A25753C1A966958260

another family member presides over the economic mess last decae, 70 times larger than the S&L crisis. S&L crisis had 1000 criminal convictions with jailtime, proportionally the economic mess should have 70,000.

In the early 90s, evidence accumulates that the former VP was heavily involved in iran&iraq ... but apparently there was some issue charging sitting president (and he pardons his co-conspirators)

Also the family member presides last decade over fabricated Al-Queda as excuse for invading Iraq, when that falls through, they switch to fabricated WMDs (and projection that invasion would only cost $50B, the perpetual/long wars are now pushing $5T, 100 times greater, and has totally destabilized middle east).

cousin of white house chief of staff Card was dealing with the Iraqis at the UN and was given evidence that WMDs had been decommissioned. It is shared with cousin Card, Powell and others ... then is locked up in military hospital, book was published in 2010 (before decommissioned WMDs were declassified)
https://www.amazon.com/EXTREME-PREJUDICE-Terrifying-Story-Patriot-ebook/dp/B004HYHBK2/

NY Times series from 2014, the decommission WMDs tracing back to US from Iran/Iraq war, had been found early in the invasion, but the information was classified for a decade
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html

and military-industrial-complex wanted a war so badly that corporate reps were telling former eastern block countries that if they voted for IRAQ2 invasion in the UN, they would get membership in NATO and (directed appropriation) USAID (can *ONLY* be used for purchase of US arms from US makers). From law of unintended consequences, at the start of the invasion, they are told to bypass ammo dumps looking for WMDs, when they get around to going back, over million metric tons have disappeared (then start showing up in IEDs).
https://www.amazon.com/Prophets-War-Lockheed-Military-Industrial-ebook/dp/B0047T86BA/

going back further, the US was supporting Iraq in the iran/iraq war
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq_War
including supplying WMDs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran-Iraq_war

then sat. photo recon analyst informed White House that Saddam was marshaling forces for invasion of Kuwait. White House says that Saddam told them he would do no such thing and proceeded to discredit the analyst. then the analyst informed the White House that Saddam was marshaling forces for invasion of Saudi Arabia. Now Bush1 has to choose between Saudi Arabia and Saddam.
https://www.amazon.com/Long-Strange-Journey-Intelligence-ebook/dp/B004NNV5H2/

S&L crisis posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#s&l.crisis
WMDs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#wmds
perpetual war
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
and military industrial complex
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

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The ICL 2900

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The ICL 2900
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 10:04:45 -0800
ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) writes:
SunOs 4.x was retro-branded to Solaris 1. My memory is that Sun was hyping the new word "Solaris" for their upcoming OS based on AT&T Sys V Unix, but it was taking longer than they anticipated to get it out the door, so they made the arbitrary decision that the next Sunos 4.X release would be branded "Solaris" so they could say "Yes, we are shipping Solaris" and that Sunos 5.x which originally would have just been "Solaris" was now "Solaris 2".

I think rebasing SunOS on SysV was the second Sun/AT&T venture. The first one, announced with great hype was that Sun and AT&T would jointly re-write Unix in C++. This died quietely at some point..


The SUN/AT&T relationship also gave rise to (IBM, HP, DEC, Apollo, etc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Software_Foundation

that would do unix that was free from AT&T. Pieces were collected from various places like MIT Project Athena,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Athena
CMUs MACH,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_(kernel)
UCLA Locus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOCUS_(operating_system)

IBM's 801/RISC ROMP was originally going to be displaywriter follow-on. When that got canceled, they decided to retarget to unix workstaton market. The company that did the AT&T port for PC/IX was hired to do AT&T port to ROMP ... branded PC/RT and AIX.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801

Then IBM (academic) ACIS did UCLA Locus based offering for mainframe and IBM/PC ... also called AIX ... AIX/370 and AIX/386. AIX for PC/RT and AIX/370/386 were only similar in having "AIX" in the name.

For a time, object was the rage in silicon valley, Apple was doing PINK object operating system and SUN was doing Spring.

Parts of PINK were sort of spun off as Taligent object development environment. At one point I did one week JAD with Taligent about what would it take to bring it up to level for doing business critical applications (1/3rd new frameworks and 1/3rd hit to existing frameworks).

Spring was stabilized and most people were moved over to JAVA. SUN asked me if I would consider taking Spring and turn it into commercial offering, I look at it, but decline. Part of Spring was efficiently downloading apps to clients (client resources were much more constrained in this period):

A Client-Side Stub Interpreter

Petere B. Kessler

Abstract

We have built a research operating system in which all services are presented through interfaces described by an interface description language. The system consists of a micro-kernel that supports a small number of these interfaces, and a large number of interfaces that are implemented by user-level code. A typical service implements one or more interfaces, but is a client of many other interfaces that are implemented elsewhere in the system. We have an interface compiler that generates client-side and service-side stubs to deliver calls from clients to services providing location transparency if the client and server are in different address spaces. The code for client-side stubs was occupying a large amount of the text space on our clients, so a stub interpreter was written to replace the client-side stub methods. The result was that we traded 125k bytes of stub code for 13k bytes of stub descriptions and 4k bytes of stub interpreter. This paper describes the stub interpreter, the stub descriptions, and discusses some alternatives.


... snip ...

past posts mentioning PINK/Taligent
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#10 Taligent
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#46 Where are they now : Taligent and Pink
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#48 Where are they now : Taligent and Pink
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001j.html#36 Proper ISA lifespan?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#93 Buffer overflow
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#76 Difference between Unix and Linux?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002m.html#60 The next big things that weren't
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#45 IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#28 A Speculative question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004c.html#53 defination of terms: "Application Server" vs. "Transaction Server"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#64 Systems software versus applications software definitions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005b.html#40 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005f.html#38 Where should the type information be: in tags and descriptors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005i.html#42 Development as Configuration
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#20 The System/360 Model 20 Wasn't As Bad As All That
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#69 The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#1 The top 10 dead (or dying) computer skills
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#36 Future of System/360 architecture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#46 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#22 folklore indeed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#26 comp.arch has made itself a sitting duck for spam
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#32 comp.arch has made itself a sitting duck for spam
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#44 Larrabee delayed: anyone know what's happening?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#9 Far and near pointers on the 80286 and later
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#15 Far and near pointers on the 80286 and later
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#37 16:32 far pointers in OpenWatcom C/C++
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#53 Far and near pointers on the 80286 and later
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#59 Far and near pointers on the 80286 and later
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#94 Time to competency for new software language?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#68 Boyd's cycle: the path to guaranteed success + 6 big companies as evidence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#59 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#14 New words, language, metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#27 History of Mainframe Cloud

other posts mentioning SPRING
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001j.html#32 Whom Do Programmers Admire Now???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#51 A Speculative question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#17 Opinion: The top 10 operating system stinkers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#80 Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#47 Nonlinear systems and nonlocal supercomputing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#95 VM IS DEAD
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#50 The real reason IBM didn't want to dump more money into Blue Waters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#27 Java Security?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#21 New HD
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#85 the suckage of MS-DOS, was Re: 'Free Unix!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#39 Resistance to Java
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#14 client/server & HTML
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#97 ABO Automatic Binary Optimizer

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Subscription to Usenet groups

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Subscription to Usenet groups
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 10:20:47 -0800
Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> writes:
The concept of "subscribing" to a mailing list goes back not less than 30 years in my mind. Confusing Usenet for Mailing List (and vice versa) goes back about as far.

I was blamed for online computer conferencing on the internal network (larger than arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until sometime mid-80s) in the late 70s and early 80s. Folklore is that when the corporate executive committee was told about online computer conferencing (and the internal network), 5of6 wanted to fire me
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#cmc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

from IBM Jargon:

Tandem Memos - n. Something constructive but hard to control; a fresh of breath air (sic). That's another Tandem Memos. A phrase to worry middle management. It refers to the computer-based conference (widely distributed in 1981) in which many technical personnel expressed dissatisfaction with the tools available to them at that time, and also constructively criticized the way products were [are] developed. The memos are required reading for anyone with a serious interest in quality products. If you have not seen the memos, try reading the November 1981 Datamation summary.

... snip ...

There was then a lot of company task forces to investigate the phenomena which resulted in official corporate sanctioned forums and a new tool that supported both usenet-like operation option as well as mailing list operation option (selected on the client side, server tool supported modes).

Corporation then was providing funds and technology for the university network BITNET network ... using some of the internal network technology (and was also larger than arpanet/internet for a time)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BITNET
posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet

This was then expanded to europe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Academic_Research_Network
old email from person setting up EARN (former co-worker at science center, had been on assignment from France)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#email840320

was looking for internal network applications that could be made available to universities

the current dominant mailing list processing was developed on bitnet/earn in paris a couple years later (subset of the internal corporate tool)
http://www.lsoft.com/products/listserv-history.asp

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Janet Yellen debunks Trump's case for killing Dodd-Frank

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Janet Yellen debunks Trump's case for killing Dodd-Frank
Date: 14 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook
Janet Yellen debunks Trump's case for killing Dodd-Frank
http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/14/investing/janet-yellen-dodd-frank-trump/index.html

some posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fed.chairman

Trump, Wall Street and the "banking caucus" ready to rip apart Dodd-Frank
https://www.publicintegrity.org/2017/02/01/20645/trump-wall-street-and-banking-caucus-ready-rip-apart-dodd-frank
Trump Begins Assault on Dodd-Frank Financial Regulations
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/03/business/dealbook/trump-congress-financial-regulations.html

It became clear (to me) in the spring of 2009 that congress had no intention of doing anything substantive about wall street. January, 2009 I was asked to HTMLize(/web pages) the Pecora Hearings (30s congressional hearings into '29 crash, resulted in Glass-Steagall and criminal convictions with jailtime) with lots of internal HREFs and URLs between what happened then and what happened this time (comments that the new congress might have the appetite to do something). I work on it for awhile and then get a call that it won't be needed after all (references to enormous mountains of wallstreet cash totally burying capital hill).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall

there is: "Confidence Men" pg430:

But they were fighting on too many fronts. Carl Levin of Michigan and Jeff Merkley of Oregon had discovered that Dodd had discreetly gutted the Volcker Rule, and the two set to work trying to counteract Dodd's efforts. The Merkley-Levin Amendment articulated Volcker's idea fully -- and wrote it as law. No regulatory backsliding, once everything settled down.

... and "Age of Greed" pg370:

In addition, the Justice Department was now investigating reduced rate mortgages Mozilo allegedly sold to Senators Chris Dodd of Connecticut and Kent Conrad of North Dakota, as well as two former heads of Fannie Mae, Jim Johnson and Franklin Raines. They were known as "Friends of Angelo."

... snip ...

Angelo, #1 on times list of those responsible for the economic mess/financial crisis
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877339,00.html

How Wall Street Killed Financial Reform; It's bad enough that the banks strangled the Dodd-Frank law. Even worse is the way they did it - with a big assist from Congress and the White House
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-wall-street-killed-financial-reform-20120510
How Wall Street Defanged Dodd-Frank; Battalions of regulatory lawyers burrowed deep in the federal bureaucracy to foil reform.
http://www.thenation.com/article/174113/how-wall-street-defanged-dodd-frank
Josh Rosner on How Dodd Frank Institutionalizes Too Big to Fail
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/05/josh-rosner-on-how-dodd-frank-institutionalizes-too-big-to-fail.html

Rosner focuses on Articles I and II of Dodd Frank and describes how their plans to deal with resolving large firms has only made matters worse. It' s key to understand that these two sections are somewhat at odds with each other. Dodd Frank peculiarly provides for two ways to wind up systemically important firms. Title I says they should prepare for bankruptcy. They need to clean up how they are organized and make sure activities fit or can be mapped into legal entities and prepare living wills, which are plans for how they would wind themselves up. But confusingly, banks can also be "resolved" which is more like "rescued with a little pain inflicted on investors" under Title II. Title II provides for a second way to deal with stressed financial firms, which includes having the government provide what amounts to debtor-in-possession financing while the bank is restructured. This, sports fans, is what is otherwise known as a bailout.

... snip ...

Are Treasury and the Fed at Odds Over Big Banks? Treasury Secretary Lew keeps hands off as Wall Street giants grow larger.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/are-treasury-and-the-fed-at-odds-over-big-banks-20130524

But at his 2010 Senate confirmation hearing to become head of Office of Management and Budget, Lew also indicated that he didn't consider the deregulation of Wall Street to be a "proximate" cause of the financial crisis --an answer that put him at odds with his boss, who declared as a presidential candidate in 2008: "It's because of deregulation that Wall Street was able to engage in the kind of irresponsible actions that have caused this financial crisis."

... snip ...

Gretchen Morgenson on Why Banks Are Still Too Big To Fail
http://billmoyers.com/segment/gretchen-morgenson-on-why-banks-are-still-too-big-to-fail/

Dodd-Frank set up a system to unwind troubled institutions when they become troubled. But it requires regulators taking a really firm stand against large, politically-interconnected, and powerful companies ... I just think it's too easy to put the taxpayer on the hook and bail these people out

... snip ...

Deja Vu on the Hill: Wall Street Lobbyists Roll Back Finance Reform, Again
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/deja-vu-on-the-hill-wall-street-lobbyists-roll-back-finance-reform-again-20130521
Bank Lobbyists Writing the Rules for Wall Street
http://www.pogo.org/blog/2013/05/bank-lobbyists-writing-the-rules-for-wall-street.html
Banks' Lobbyists Help in Drafting Financial Bills
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/05/23/banks-lobbyists-help-in-drafting-financial-bills/

some of the ploys involved in Dodd-Frank, email was uncovered that wallstreet lobbyists were providing provisions to be included in the Dodd-Frank draft. In some cases, they were blatant ridiculous, the added provisions would leak and then the same lobbyists would ridicule the provisions as part of discrediting the process. In other cases the provided provisions were enormously complex or fatally flawed, guaranteeing that it would take years attempting (or impossible) to come up with regulations.

Periodically, local DC news will refer to washington politics as Kabuki Theater, little of what you see publicly has anything to do with what is really going on (harking back to Roman Circus for the public)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#kabuki.theater

Friends of Angelo are somewhat similar to the Keating FIve
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five
during the S&L crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
where Keating wrote them a memo that started out "Kill Black"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_K._Black
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#s&l.crisis

trivia: rhetoric on the floor of congress was the primary purpose of GLBA (now better known for amendments like repeal of Glass-Steagall) was that if you already had banking charter, you got to keep it, but if you didn't, you couldn't get one (aka keep entities with new, more cost efficient technologies out of banking competition). Senator behind GLBA is #2 on times list of those responsible for economic mess
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html

not so much for GLBA & repeal of Glass-Steagall but for legislation that prevented regulation of CDS gambling bets (originally billed as gift to ENRON). Chair of CFTC proposed regulating CDS gambling bets and was quickly replaced with #2's wife, while he got act passed preventing regulation, then the wife resigns and joins ENRON's board and audit committee.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron

From the law of unintended consequences: when FED was doing the real bailout behind the scenes, giving TBTF tens of trillions of ZIRP funds, they were limited to only providing ZIRP funds to those with banking charters. It turns out some of FED's TBTF friends on wallstreet didn't have banking charters; to make them eligible for ZIRP, they had to be given banking charters (theoretically in violation of GLBA)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#zirp

ENRON made use of CDS gambling bets ... but they also played big role in the economic mess.

Oct2008 hearing into the role that the credit rating agencies played, found that they were selling triple-A ratings for things they knew they weren't worth triple-A. Triple-A rating enabled no-documentation, liar loans, they could be securitized, given triple-A rating and then sold off immediately (including to funds restricted to only dealing in "safe" investments, like large pension funds), significantly contributing to being able to do over $27T 2001-2008. Being able to sell everything off also eliminated any reason to care about loan quality or borrower's qualification.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

Then they find that they can package securitized mortgages designed to fail, pay for triple-A, sell to their victims, and take out CDS gambling bets ... creating enormous demand for bad loans (now they cared about borrower's qualifications, but not in the traditional way). AIG was negotiating to pay off the CDS gambling bets at 50cents on the dollar when SECTREAS steps in, has them sign a document that they can't sue those making the CDS gambling bets and take TARP funds to pay off at face value. The largest recipient of TARP funds is AIG and the largest recipient of face value payoffs is firm previously headed by SECTREAS (and from where new SECTREAS comes).

recent posts mentioning Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#95 Trump, Wall Street and the "banking caucus" ready to rip apart Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#96 Trump, Wall Street and the "banking caucus" ready to rip apart Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#0 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#3 Trump, Wall Street and the "banking caucus" ready to rip apart Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#4 OT: Trump Moves to Roll Back Obama-Era Financial Regulations
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#5 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#11 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#13 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#16 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#41 Trump to sign cyber security order

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z/OS under Linux ?

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: z/OS under Linux ?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 14 Feb 2017 23:09:59 -0800
sipples@SG.IBM.COM (Timothy Sipples) writes:
Uh huh. And so can z/VM, and so can KVM for IBM z Systems and LinuxONE. Moreover, I would argue that Concurrent Processor Drawer Add and Concurrent Processor Drawer Repair/Replace are extremely sophisticated instances of live system movement within an IBM z System machine, and they are unique. You just never think about them that way because the system magically does all the work as the technician pops processors drawers in and out. It's like performing brain surgery on an Olympic athlete at the same time she's swimming to win her gold medal.

one of the VM370 service bureaus had live virtual machine migration between systems some 40+yrs ago ... POK was in the process of killing off VM370 product ... so the company wasn't interested in releasing something similar.

Part of the issue back then was that they provided online 7x24 world-wide. At the time all of IBM mainframes had downtime for preventive maintenance .... so it was used for non-disruptive taking boxes offline/online as part of maintenance.

turns out they had leveraged something I had done for adding psuedo address space for every virtual machine ... where all control blocks could be kept and could be removed to disk (to reduce real storage virtual machine footprint when idle). They added support for pulling it back in on different system in loosely coupled configuration.

when to get out???

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: when to get out???
Date: 15 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#43 when to get out???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#45 when to get out???

Trust: the inside story of the rise and fall of Ethereum
https://aeon.co/essays/trust-the-inside-story-of-the-rise-and-fall-of-ethereum

and with regard to previous posting about investment bankers running the internet IPO mills

Jean Tirole Fails the Tirole Test of What Makes an Economist a Scientist
http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2017/02/jean-tirole-fails-tirole-test-makes-economist-scientist.html

The savings and loan debacle was contained in 1994. The dot-com bubble, the largest financial bubble in history, grew through the 1990s and began collapsing in 1999. SEC Chairman Levitt warned repeatedly about the sharp rise in accounting abuses. The housing bubble was rapidly expanding and the appraiser made public their warning of rampant appraisal fraud led by lenders in 2000. Predatory home lending was infamous.

... snip ...

posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#s&l.crisis

However, the "rampant appraisal fraud" wasn't the major issue in the economic mess. In 1999 I was asked to help try and prevent the coming economic mess by improving the integrity of supporting documents in securitized mortgages. However they found they could pay the rating agencies for triple-A (even when the rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A, from Oct2008 congressional testimony). The triple-A trumps supporting documents and enables 1) no-document liar loans, 2) not having to care about loan quality and/or borrowers' qualification, 4) doing over $27T 2001-2008, 5) packaging securitize mortgages designed to fail, pay for triple-A, sell to their victims, and take out CDS gambling bets.

(triple-a) toxic CDOs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

Also previous reference to claims about Sarbanes-Oxley guaranteeing executives and auditors would do jailtime for public company fraudulent financial filings but required SEC do something, then GAO doing reports on fraudulent financial filings, even showed fraud increased after SOX goes into effect (and nobody doing jailtime).

https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud.fraud

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The ICL 2900

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The ICL 2900
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:32:22 -0800
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
I understand the usefulness quite well. TOPS-10 provided a way for LOGIN to do a RUN UOO of a specified program so that any user logging in would immediately be put into the app with no way out other than LOGOUT. The bias of Unix is to favor this approach which is understandable when you learn how Unix was originally developed.

This kind of computer usage was not the norm.


CMS regularly did auto profile exec since created from mid-60s ... possibly inherited from CTSS.

For exampled, the world-wide sales&marketing online (virtual machine based) HONE system ... used it to put their users directly into APL ... and they had change the login messages ... so lots of users were never even aware that it was cp67/cms (and later vm370/cms).

starting in the late 70s, there was periodic problem with former (successful) branch manager to be promoted to executive in DPD hdqtrs with HONE reporting to them ... and horrified to find that the company ran on vm370/cms. They would then see that they could "make" their career by converting HONE from vm370/cms to MVS (given all the things they had been brain washed with while they were in the field). Nearly all the HONE resources get devoted to the conversion and after a year or two ... it would quietly fail and the executive would be promoted to something else (and somebody new would be brought in and the process repated).

Finally in the mid-80s, somebody decided that it was all my fault, because I provided HONE with a significantly enhanced vm370/cms (and thats why they couldn't move HONE off to a MVS system, aka HONE was so tied to all the enhancements).

past posts mentioning HONE (&/or APL)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

TYMSHARE ... one of the major virtul machine based online commercial service bureau ... some past post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#online

(and others) extended it to create a "padded cell" environment, crippling every feature that would allow the user to escape to a normal vm370/cms environment. It was also part of their online CMS-based computer conferencing system ... that they provided free to SHARE organization as VMSHARE starting in AUG1976 ... archives here:
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/

some of my old vmshare related email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vmshare

eventually "padded cell" became part of standard product ... references can be found searching vmshare archives.

trivia drift ... old email about porting lots of stuff from CP67 to VM370 (in the product morph of CP67 to VM370, they simplified and dropped lots of stuff).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email731212
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750102
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430

and other trivia drift, the 731212 email mentions two BU co-op (undergraduate) students working at the science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

helping me with the port. they both graduate, one joining IBM in NY and the other joining another virtual machine based online commercial service bureau in the boston area. He comes up recently in this post over in ibm-main mailing list
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#49 z/OS under Linux ?

about "modern" virtual machine systems able to dynamically migrate live virtual machines on the fly from one system to another ... he had done the VM370 enhancements to do that 40+ years ago. some past refs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#11 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#56 Virtual
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#50 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#79 I'd forgotten what a 2305 looked like
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#1 Before the PC: IBM invents virtualisation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#83 Why are organizations sticking with mainframes?

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when to get out???

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: when to get out???
Date: 16 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#43 when to get out???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#45 when to get out???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#50 when to get out???

April 2008, there was an article out of the wharton business school that estimated approx. 1000 people were responsible for 80% of the economic mess and it would go a long way to fixing the problem if the gov. could figure out how to separate them from their positions ... article disappeared behind registration wall ... sometimes re-appears in the open ... but it also leaked to the wayback machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20080606084328/http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article.cfm?articleid=1933

and three bloomberg articles from the period that goes into lots of detail .... that have since gone behind their premium paywall ... although the text can sometimes found other places on the web by searching on title (different search engines may give different results), ignore my garlic URLs since i don't provide anything more than following snippets.

Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt (gone behind paywall)
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-27/evil-wall-street-exports-boomed-with-fools-born-to-buy-debt
partial, part1of4 (sometimes original can found with web search)
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-27/evil-wall-street-exports-boomed-with-fools-born-to-buy-debt

"Securitization was based on the premise that a fool was born every minute," Joseph Stiglitz, a professor of economics at Columbia University in New York, told a congressional committee on Oct. 21. "Globalization meant that there was a global landscape on which they could search for those fools -- and they found them everywhere."

The bundling of consumer loans and home mortgages into packages of securities -- a process known as securitization -- was the biggest U.S. export business of the 21st century. More than $27 trillion of these securities have been sold since 2001, according to the Securities Industry Financial Markets Association, an industry trade group. That's almost twice last year's U.S. gross domestic product of $13.8 trillion

....

Bank's Hidden Junk Menaces $1 Trillion Purge
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=akv_p6LBNIdw&refer=home

So investors betting for quick solutions to the financial crisis could be disappointed. The tangled web that banks wove over the years will take a long time to undo.

At the end of 2008, for example, off-balance-sheet assets at just the four biggest U.S. banks -- Bank of America Corp., Citigroup Inc., JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Wells Fargo & Co. -- were about $5.2 trillion, according to their 2008 annual filings.

...

Citi still had the most, even tho Citi had sold something like $60B for 22cents on the dollar earlier in the year, this talks a lot of the mechanics of what they were doing and regulators ignoring ("mark-to-market" $5.2T at 22cents would be $1T, brought back on the books would have resulted in them being declared insolvent and forced to be liquidated).

Greenspan Slept as Off-Books Debt Escaped Scrutiny
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=aYJZOB_gZi0I

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COBOL and POSIX pipes

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: COBOL and POSIX pipes
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 16 Feb 2017 19:31:59 -0800
john.archie.mckown@GMAIL.COM (John McKown) writes:
​It adds some really nice features to legacy z/OS. But UNIX files can be confusing to z/OS programmers because they are more like "memory" than "disk" in that they are simply an ordered sequence of _bytes_, not _records_. The file system itself does not have _any_ interpretation o​f how those bytes are grouped into logical records. z/OS programmers, in general, are used to reading individual records when reading a data set. When you read a UNIX file, the program must tell the UNIX kernel ("access method") how many bytes you want to read. UNIX will return __NO MORE__ than that number of bytes. It could return fewer, if there are not that many left before "end of file" (an on some other rare occasions). Your code must then somehow know where the data you want (aka "this record") ends. Which means either the file is composed of fixed length records, hard coded in the program, or there is meta information encoded in the file data itself which indicates a length (similar to the LLBB field in a z/OS variable length data set) for each record. You can't rely on the system "handing" you a "logical record: when you do a UNIX read simply because there is no such thing, in a general sense."

Unix traditional records are variable length deliminated by trailing null/zero byte. lots of traditional unix API programming would read w/o length restriction and common attack is to provide extremely long record that would overwrite end of buffer being used ... resulting failure and/or compromise. Lots of pressure to get UNIX (c language) programmers to use API that specify maximum length read.

I had this discussion with Dennis Ritchie that traditional IBM variable length used two-byte explicit length prefixing ... while the unix method saved a byte per record, with just a single (null/zero) byte postfixing the record ... back in the days of "small memory" and pdp-7 ... birth of unix
http://www.linfo.org/pdp-7.html

trivia: some of the CTSS people went to the 5th flr and did Multics and others went to the ibm science center on the 4th floor and did virtual machines, bunch of online applications, the internal network (also used for university bitnet/earn) and invented GML. folklore is that some of the AT&T worked on multics and then returned home and did unix
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multics#UNIX
dennis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ritchie

past posts mentioning ibm science center, 4th flr, 545 tech sq
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
CTSS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatible_Time-Sharing_System

I joke that when release 1 cp67 was delivered to the university in Jan1968 it had some code that I completely rewrote ... but then saw very similar code in unix 20yrs later (possibly all having traced back to CTSS?). recent posts mentioning early cp67
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#26 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#27 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#28 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#29 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#30 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#32 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance

I've also frequently commented that the original IBM mainframe TCP/IP product was implemented in vs/pascal and *never* had any of the length related vulnerabiilties and exploits that have been epidemic in C language implementations. some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#buffer

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Mary Jo White Seriously Misled The US Senate To Become SEC Chair

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Mary Jo White Seriously Misled The US Senate To Become SEC Chair
Date: 17 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook
Mary Jo White Seriously Misled The US Senate To Become SEC Chair
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-17/mary-jo-white-seriously-misled-us-senate-become-sec-chair

Given this demoralizing experience with the gold-plated Washington-Wall Street revolving door, one would have expected that President Trump, the man promising to drain the swamp in Washington, to have come up with a better plan for stewardship of the SEC. Instead, Trump's doubling down. His nominee for SEC Chair is Jay Clayton, a law partner at Sullivan & Cromwell, which has represented Goldman Sachs since the late 1800s. On top of that, Clayton's wife is a Vice President of (wait for it) Goldman Sachs.

... snip ...

past "Mary Jo White" refs:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#60 Choice of Mary Jo White to Head SEC Puts Fox In Charge of Hen House
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#68 Choice of Mary Jo White to Head SEC Puts Fox In Charge of Hen House
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#18 Fortune's Formula: The Untold Story Of The Scientific Betting System That Beat The Casinos And Wall Street
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#25 Senator Sherrod Brown Drops a Bombshell in Mary Jo White's Hearing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#28 Senator Sherrod Brown Drops a Bombshell in Mary Jo White's Hearing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#42 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#49 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#17 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#107 The SEC's Mary Jo White Punts on High Frequency Trading and Abandons Securities Act of 1934
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#109 SEC Caught Dark Pool and High Speed Traders Doing Bad Stuff
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#41 New York's Benjamin Lawksy and the SEC's Kara Stein and Luis Aguilar Push for Tougher Sanctions Against Bank Executives
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#81 Stanford Law School Covers Up SEC's Andrew Bowden's Embarrassing Remarks by Deep-Sixing Conference Video
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#6 SEC's Andrew Bowden Regulatory Capture Scandal Hits the Major Leagues with Los Angeles Times Column
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#58 Time to Fire Mary Jo White: SEC Covers Up for Bank Capital Accounting Scam Promoted by Her Former Firm, Debevoise
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#87 Calls for SEC Chair's Replacement Grow Louder in DC

past Sullivan & Cromwell refs:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#11 UK government plans switch from Microsoft Office to open source
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#36 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#28 channel islands, definitely not the location of LEO
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#62 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#13 Keydriven bit permutations
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#69 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#86 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#13 Fully Restored WWII Fighter Plane Up for Auction
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#29 Eric Holder Returns as Hero to Law Firm That Lobbies for Big Banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#36 Eric Holder, Wall Street Double Agent, Comes in From the Cold
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#7 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#0 How Corporate America Invented Christian America; Inside one reverend's big business-backed 1940s crusade to make the country conservative again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#26 Putin's Great Crime: He Defends His Allies and Attacks His Enemies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#28 rationality
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#119 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#39 Failure as a Way of Life; The logic of lost wars and military-industrial boondoggles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#49 Corporate malfeasance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#64 Isolationism and War Profiteering
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#75 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#78 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#79 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#11 Study: Cost of U.S. Regulations Larger Than Germany's Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#49 Fateful Choices
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#88 "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#27 British socialism / anti-trust
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#56 "One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#94 The Brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, and Their Secret World War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#9 Wall Street Preparing Dodd-Frank Rule Workaround
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#2 Smedley Butler
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#63 One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America

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60 Minutes interview with Grace Hopper

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 60 Minutes interview with Grace Hopper
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:54:56 -0800
Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> writes:
It was cruise missile navigation before GPS. The discussion was quite detailed. The patriot missile project was done by Raytheon and had the kind of round off errors that I am sure she would never be associated with.

in Gulf War/Desert Storm, Bush1 made claims about Patriot missile hitting nearly every time ... engineering showed that it may have hit rarely and may have been as little as zero. Military Industrial Complex took revenge.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

engineer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Postol

misc. past mentioning engineer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#41 Rafael Team with Raytheon to Offer Iron Dome in the U.S
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#34 Israel Has A Long List Of Problems But Its New Missile Defense Isn't One Of Them
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#49 Early use of the word "computer"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#3 Amid barrage of rockets, Iron Dome makes 2nd interception over greater Tel Aviv
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#71 Qbasic

and another reference mentioning patriot missile:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#10 Jedi Knights

above also references Boyd reviewing USAF air-to-air that they claimed hit every time ... Boyd claimed it would be 10% or less in the real world. Role forward to vietnam and Boyd is shown correct. He tells story of USAF general in vietnam grounds all USAF fighters and have them refit with (navy) sidewinders which have better than 20% hit rate. The general last 3months before he is called on the carpet back at the Pentagon for reducing USAF budget share (and increasing Navy budget share)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

in the 90s, we worked with somebody from michigan on computer analysis of breast (cancer) xrays ... part of transition from film to digital. he told story of having been up for macarthur genius award ... but was then disqualified when they learned that he previously had worked on cruise missile guidance. couple past refs:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#63 Difference between fingerspitzengefuhl and Coup d'oeil?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#66 Deep learning algorithm does as well as dermatologists in identifying skin cancer

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Wild Ducks

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Wild Ducks
Date: 17 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook
Under Watsons tenure at IBM 1st half of last century were very vocal about needing & supporting "wild ducks" ...

"you can make wild ducks tame, but you can never make tame ducks wild again. One might also add that the duck who is tamed will never go anywhere any more. We are convinced that any business needs its wild ducks. And in IBM we try not to tame them."

after Watsons retired, it became harder

Management Briefing
Number 1-72: January 18,1972
ZZ04-1312

TO ALL IBM MANAGERS:
Once again, I'm writing you a Management Briefing on the subject of bureaucracy. Evidently the earlier ones haven't worked. So this time I'm taking a further step: I'm going directly to the individual employees in the company. You will be reading this poster and my comment on it in the forthcoming issue of THINK magazine. But I wanted each one of you to have an advance copy because rooting out bureaucracy rests principally with the way each of us runs his own shop.

We've got to make a dent in this problem. By the time the THINK piece comes out, I want the correction process already to have begun. And that job starts with you and with me.

Vin Learson

... and ...


+-----------------------------------------+
|           "BUSINESS ECOLOGY"            |
|                                         |
|                                         |
|            +---------------+            |
|            |  BUREAUCRACY  |            |
|            +---------------+            |
|                                         |
|           is your worst enemy           |
|              because it -               |
|                                         |
|      POISONS      the mind              |
|      STIFLES      the spirit            |
|      POLLUTES     self-motivation       |
|             and finally                 |
|      KILLS        the individual.       |
+-----------------------------------------+

"I'M Going To Do All I Can to Fight This Problem . . ." by T. Vincent Learson, Chairman

... snip ...

How to Stuff a Wild Duck

"We are convinced that any business needs its wild ducks. And in IBM we try not to tame them." - T.J. Watson, Jr.

"How To Stuff A Wild Duck", 1973, IBM poster
https://collection.cooperhewitt.org/objects/18618011/

part of death of "wild ducks" from Ferguson/Morris Computer Wars (Future System failure in mid-70s affect on corporate culture):

... and perhaps most damaging, the old culture under Watson Snr and Jr of free and vigorous debate was replaced with sycophancy and make no waves under Opel and Akers. It's claimed that thereafter, IBM lived in the shadow of defeat

... and:

But because of the heavy investment of face by the top management, F/S took years to kill, although its wrongheadedness was obvious from the very outset. "For the first time, during F/S, outspoken criticism became politically dangerous," recalls a former top executive.

... snip ...

... then references about wild ducks are fine as long as you fly in formation. and then "how to stuff wild duck" poster
http://www.users.cloud9.net/~bradmcc/GO/wildDuck.html

misc. past posts mentioning ZZ04-1312:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#92 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#11 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#19 Where to Flatten the Officer Corps

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3350 disks

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: 3350 disks
Date: 17 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook
3350s had fixed-head option ... I tried to get project approved that would do "multiple exposures" for the fixed-head area ... like the 2305 (fixed-head disk) multiple-exposures ... i.e. multiple subchannel addresses ... would allow separate channel program data transfer to/from fixed-head area even when the rest of disk was busy (arm motion, rotation, etc) but not transfering data.

Got vetoed by Vulcan group in POK ... who figured more efficient disk might compete with the electronic disk that they were planning (vulcan got killed when corporation found it was selling all the memory that it could make at the higher processor memory markup) ... but by then things were getting into 3370s and 3380s.

past posts getting to play disk engineer in bldgs. 14&15
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk

past posts mentioning Vulcan:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#8 IBM S/360
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#104 Fixed Head Drive (Was: Re:Power distribution (Was: Re: A primeval C compiler)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#53 IBM 650 (was: Re: IBM--old computer manuals)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#65 Holy Satanism! Re: Hyper-Threading Technology - Intel information.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004d.html#73 DASD Architecture of the future
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#3 Expanded Storage
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#38 Is VIO mandatory?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#45 Why magnetic drums was/are worse than disks ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#59 Why magnetic drums was/are worse than disks ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#61 Z/VM support for FBA devices was Re: z/OS support of HMC's 3270 emulation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#47 IBM, Lawrence Livermore aim to meld supercomputing, industries
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#74 relative mainframe speeds, was What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#63 Mac at 30: A love/hate relationship from the support front
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#64 Mac at 30: A love/hate relationship from the support front
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#31 Erich Bloch, IBM pioneer who later led National Science Foundation, dies at 91

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The ICL 2900

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The ICL 2900
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 15:29:17 -0800
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
This does not follow at all, buffer overflow vulnerabilities derive from shortcomings in the original standard C library not from the OS not imposing structure on files. There are no records in unix files at the OS level, this does not mean that there cannot be fixed size records at the application level and indeed I have written a fair amount of code that uses fixed sized records in unix. Buffer overflow vulnerabilities derive directly from the use of pointers in C instead of some kind of entity with a defined size and built in protection.

C language puts it on the programmer to manage all issues related to buffer position and lengths ... and they sometimes make mistakes. I've frequently equated it to mainframe assembler language which puts it on the programmer to manage contents of registers ... and they sometimes make mistakes ... seems to have been in approx. same frequency (two overlap some where assembler register contents is pointer).

register content management issues pretty much disappears with move to higher level language.

I've frequently pointed out that original mainframe tcp/ip product was done in vs/pascal and had none of the buffer related problems that have been epidemic in c-language implementations.

past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#buffer

trivia: original mainframe product implementation had some throughput issues getting around 44kbytes/sec using 3090 processor. I did the rfc1044 enhancements and in some tuning tests at cray research got sustained channel throughtput (mbyte/sec) between cray and 4341 using only modest amount of 4341 processing (possible 500 times improvement in bytes moved per instruction executed)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#1044

decade or so ago ... I attempted to get some stats on kinds of internet problems
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#43 security taxonomy and CVE
from the nist/mitre CVE exploit database
http://cve.mitre.org/

at the time, the CVE entries were really free form, I talked to mitre at the time about adding a little structure and/or categories ... but they said they were lucky to get any kind of report ... they've since been able to add some structure.

mention in the 2004 post, out of the total cve database, 520 entries did mention buffer overflow.

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The ICL 2900

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The ICL 2900
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 21:07:52 -0800
cb@elaine.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) writes:
You might find this effort interesting:

http://cheri-cpu.org

Capability Hardware Enhanced RISC Instructions (CHERI)

"This project is an outgrowth of our earlier Capsicum project, which explored hybrid capability models in the context of UNIX operating system design. While a successful project, we identified a number of limitations to current CPU designs that made application compartmentalisation tricky, despite enhanced operating system support. CHERI is a hardware-software interface research project seeking to revise ISA design in order to better support software compartmentalisation. CHERI transposes the Capsicum hybrid capability model into the CPU architecture space, allowing fine-grained compartmentalisation within process address spaces while continuing to support current software designs."


TYMSHARE did GNOSIS for ibm/370 ... when M/D bought TYMSHARE,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymshare#Tymshare_sold_to_McDonnell_Douglas
I was brought in to evaluate GNOSIS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOSIS
http://www.cap-lore.com/Agorics/Library/KeyKos/Gnosis/keywelcome.html
as part of spin-off for KeyKOS

KeyKOS - A Secure, High-Performance Environment for S/370
http://cap-lore.com/CapTheory/upenn/Key370/Key370.html
http://www.cap-lore.com/CapTheory/KK/
some discussion of Keykos (secure) use of mapping hardware
http://www.cap-lore.com/CapTheory/PrivMap.html

part of GNOSIS objective was enabling 3party application offerings on TYMSHARE service ... and being able to account for user use of each 3party offerings. I would claim that in the move/migration from GNOSIS to KeyKOS they eliminated all the accounting in every transition ... enromously increasing performance.

capability EROS evolved from GNOSIS/KeyKOS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_Reliable_Operating_System
https://web.archive.org/web/20031029002231/http://www.eros-os.org:80/
capability CapROS evolved from GNOSIS/KeyKOS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CapROS
http://www.capros.org/
cpability Coyotos evolved from GNOSIS/KeyKOS
https://web.archive.org/web/20060203013048/http://www.coyotos.org:80/

TYMSHARE also had thriving VM370/CMS service ... and i've recently mentioned offered their CMS-based online computer conferencing system free to (ibm user group) SHARE as vmshare starting in AUG1976, archives here
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare
sometimes(?) "404" ... but also at wayback machine
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/
some old email about vmshare
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vmshare

past posts mentioning GNOSIS/KeyKOS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#69 TSS ancient history, was X86 ultimate CISC? designs)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000g.html#22 No more innovation? Get serious
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#73 7090 vs. 7094 etc.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#33 Did AT&T offer Unix to Digital Equipment in the 70s?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#35 Did AT&T offer Unix to Digital Equipment in the 70s?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#10 TSS/360
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002f.html#59 Blade architectures
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#0 Blade architectures
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#4 markup vs wysiwyg (was: Re: learning how to use a computer)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002h.html#43 IBM doing anything for 50th Anniv?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#63 Hercules and System/390 - do we need it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#75 30th b'day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003g.html#18 Multiple layers of virtual address translation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003h.html#41 Segments, capabilities, buffer overrun attacks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#15 two pi, four phase, 370 clone
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#20 A Dark Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#50 Slashdot: O'Reilly On The Importance Of The Mainframe Heritage
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003l.html#19 Secure OS Thoughts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003l.html#22 Secure OS Thoughts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003l.html#26 Secure OS Thoughts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003m.html#24 Intel iAPX 432
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003m.html#54 Thoughts on Utility Computing?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004c.html#4 OS Partitioning and security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#27 NSF interest in Multics security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#29 Shipwrecks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#49 EAL5
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004n.html#41 Multi-processor timing issue
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004o.html#33 Integer types for 128-bit addressing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005.html#7 How do you say "gnus"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005b.html#6 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005b.html#7 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005b.html#12 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005c.html#67 intel's Vanderpool and virtualization in general
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#43 Secure design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#50 Secure design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#13 Today's mainframe--anything to new?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005k.html#30 Public disclosure of discovered vulnerabilities
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005s.html#12 Flat Query
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#37 PDP-1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#34 PDP-1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#13 What part of z/OS is the OS?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#7 Very slow booting and running and brain-dead OS's?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#42 vmshare
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#11 Multiple mappings
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#16 "The Elements of Programming Style"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#26 user level TCP implementation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#25 LAX IT failure: leaps of faith don't work
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#17 Oddly good news week: Google announces a Caps library for Javascript
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#24 folklore indeed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#50 How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#12 Kernels
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#7 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#23 Doug Engelbart's "Mother of All Demos"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#14 Two views of Microkernels (Re: Kernels
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#3 New machine code
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#4 Possibility of malicious CPUs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#28 Opinion: The top 10 operating system stinkers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#84 Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#9 Far and near pointers on the 80286 and later
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#53 Far and near pointers on the 80286 and later
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#75 What is the protocal for GMT offset in SMTP (e-mail) header
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#63 VMSHARE Archives
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#31 Colossal Cave Adventure in PL/I
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#2 Other early NSFNET backbone
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#71 Multiple Virtual Memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#35 junking CKD; was "Social Security Confronts IT Obsolescence"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#37 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#42 i432 on Bitsavers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#55 Any candidates for best acronyms?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#39 Just a quick link to a video by the National Research Council of Canada made in 1971 on computer technology for filmmaking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#40 GNOSIS & KeyKOS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#43 Virtual address Memory Protection Unit
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#53 Operating System, what is it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#59 Operating System, what is it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#57 1132 printer history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#58 1132 printer history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#57 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#7 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#38 There can be no System Security without System Integrity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#80 Still not convinced about the superiority of mainframe security vs distributed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#55 Arthur C. Clarke Predicts the Internet, 1974
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#33 Delay between idea and implementation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#6 The Subroutine Call
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#57 Doug Englebart
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#58 Doug Englebart
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#58 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made 30yearsagotoday
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#59 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#6 ACA (Obamacare) website problems--article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#13 Bounded pointers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#84 CPU time
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#39 [CM] Ten recollections about the early WWW and Internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#44 [CM] Ten recollections about the early WWW and Internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#53 The mainframe turns 50, or, why the IBM System/360 launch was the dawn of enterprise IT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#40 Named Memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#53 transactions, was There Is Still Hope
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#82 Miniskirts and mainframes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#43 [Poll] Computing favorities
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#29 1976 vs. 2016?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#12 What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#107 some computer and online history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#110 Tymshare sold to McDonnell Douglas
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#28 {wtf} Tymshare SuperBasic Source Code
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#100 Trump to sign cyber security order

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Why Does Congress Accept Perpetual Wars?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Why Does Congress Accept Perpetual Wars?
Date: 18 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook
Why Does Congress Accept Perpetual Wars?
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/why-does-congress-accept-perpetual-wars/

Who still reads Boyd?
https://slightlyeastofnew.com/2017/02/18/who-still-reads-boyd/
The Moscow School of Hard Knocks: Key Pillars of Russian Strategy
https://warontherocks.com/2017/01/the-moscow-school-of-hard-knocks-key-pillars-of-russian-strategy/

touches on long/perpetual war created by destabilizing the middle-east (by a Boyd acolyte)

The Domestic Roots of Perpetual War
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com/p/domestic-roots-of-perpetual-war.html
here
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/52781209/General%20Defense/Domestic%20Roots%20of%20Perpetual%20War.pdf
from
http://www.challengemagazine.com/
and
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com/p/pentagon-labyrinth.html

old spinney/boyd article (spinney on cover of time) ... what prompted me sponsoring Boyd's briefings at ibm ... gone behind paywall but most of it leaked to wayback machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20070320170523/http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,953733,00.html
also
https://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,953733,00.html

boyd posts & web URLs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

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60 Minutes interview with Grace Hopper

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 60 Minutes interview with Grace Hopper
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 17:04:43 -0800
JimP. <solosam90@gmail.com> writes:
Around 5 years ago I was discussing Ghost in the Shell movie with a coworker. Basically, they had cyber brains, titantium bodies with servos, etc. that people's thoughts, emotions, memories, etc. could be transferred to if their brain survived a plane crash or the had a physical illness that was killing them. Since such minds were connected to the Internet, they seemed to have rather poor quality cyber brain firewalls. A person who was mind hacked could be given false memories, etc.

Creating False Memories
https://faculty.washington.edu/eloftus/Articles/sciam.htm
How to Instill False Memories
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/how-to-instill-false-memories/
The Most Shocking Fact About Fake Memories
http://www.spring.org.uk/2016/12/fake-memories.php
A 'Memory Hacker'Explains How to Plant False Memories in People' Minds
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/memory-hacker-implant-false-memories-in-peoples-minds-julia-shaw-memory-illusion
Implant False Memories into Other People's Heads
https://mind-hacks.wonderhowto.com/how-to/implant-false-memories-into-other-peoples-heads-why-you-should-0164661/

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BITNET 8bit

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: BITNET 8bit
Date: 19 Feb 2017
Blog: Google+
former co-worker at science center developed vnet/rscs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_VNET
with (8-bit)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_Synchronous_Communications

which was used for internal network (larger than arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until sometime mid-80s). A version of the software was also used for the corporate sponsored university network (bitnet, which for a time was also larger than arpanet/internet)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BITNET

another former co-worker at science center on assignment from france ... later is then responsible for creating earn (bitnet in europe).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Academic_Research_Network

early email looking for internal network applications that might be made available to universities
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#email840320

old email about csnet gatewaay used "phonenet" (would have been rs232) but csnet also had interfaces to arpanet and telenet/gte
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/internet.htm#0

science center posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
internal network posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
bitnet/earn network posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet

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Zero-copy write on modern motherboards

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Zero-copy write on modern motherboards
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 09:35:39 -0800
bit-naughty writes:
I read about "zero-copy write" where data is shifted from disk straight to network (for a server) Without being copied to RAM first!! My question is: are there any motherboards in the modern consumer space which support this feature? Whichever architecture...?

original in early/mid 80s by NCAR filesystem with NSC HYPERchannel, server downloaded i/o program to disk controller (adapter) for transfer directly from disk over network to client. NSC/NCAR then added "3rd party transfer" to HIPPI switch architecture for IPI disk arrays.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIPPI

For a time in the early 90s, NCAR had spinoff that attempted to market their filesystem commercially (MESA Archival) ... misc. past posts mentioning mesa archival
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#21 Disk caching and file systems. Disk history...people forget
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#22 Disk caching and file systems. Disk history...people forget
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#66 commodity storage servers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#46 What goes into a 3090?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#61 GE 625/635 Reference + Smart Hardware
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#29 360/370 disk drives
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#31 360/370 disk drives
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003h.html#6 IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004d.html#75 DASD Architecture of the future
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#29 FW: Is FICON good enough, or is it the only choice we get?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#12 Device and channel
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#15 Device and channel
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#16 Device and channel
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#19 Device and channel
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#29 CRAM, DataCell, and 3850
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#47 IBM Unionization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#51 Barbless
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#58 Disksize history question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#42 Larrabee delayed: anyone know what's happening?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#69 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#71 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#85 3270 Emulator Software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#58 Other early NSFNET backbone
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#34 Last Word on Dennis Ritchie
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#27 NASA unplugs their last mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#47 IBM, Lawrence Livermore aim to meld supercomputing, industries
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#46 Slackware
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#9 3270s & other stuff
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#15 Quixotically on-topic post, still on topic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#68 30 yr old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#47 GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#26 [Poll] Computing favorities

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Jean Tirole's Proposal to Appoint Felons to Monitor CEOs

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Jean Tirole's Proposal to Appoint Felons to Monitor CEOs
Date: 29 Feb 2017
Blog: Google+
Quis custodiet ipsos custodies? Jean Tirole's Proposal to Appoint Felons to Monitor CEOs
http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2017/02/quis-custodiet-ipsos-custodies-jean-tiroles-proposal-appoint-felons-monitor-ceos.html

It takes a thief: The first SEC chairman; The SEC Historical Society has new pictures and essays honoring its first chairman - Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt supposedly said he appointed Kennedy to the SEC because it takes a thief to catch a thief. Indeed, the arch-liberal Kennedy clan's wealth has some pretty dubious origins.

Man Called Intrepid, loc1446-59:

Kennedy had just revisited the United States on a vacation that the British Foreign Office thought might be in preparation for a campaign to win the presidency from Roosevelt. The platform on which Kennedy would fight, the British suspected, would include a policy of staying out of the war. Kennedy had used his visit to tell his fellow Americans, in public statements, that Hitler would win the war against the British and that the conflict involved no moral issues.

loc2645-52:

The Kennedys dined with the Roosevelts that evening. Two days later, Joseph P. Kennedy spoke on nationwide radio. A startled public learned he now believed "Franklin D. Roosevelt should be re-elected President." He told a press conference: "I never made anti-British statements or said, on or off the record, that I do not expect Britain to win the war." British historian Nicholas Bethell wrote: "How Roosevelt contrived the transformation is a mystery." And so it remained until the BSC Papers disclosed that the President had been supplied with enough evidence of Kennedy's disloyalty that the Ambassador, when shown it, saw discretion to be the better part of valor

... snip ...

of course kennedy wasn't the only one, June1940, Germany had a victory celebration at the NYC Waldorf-Astoria with major industrialists. Lots of them were there to hear how to do business with the Nazis.

Later 5000 industrialists from across the US had conference (also) at NYC Waldof-Astoria and in part because they had gotten such bad reputation for the depression and supporting Nazi Germany, they approved a major propaganda campaign to equate capitalism with Christianity

other recent posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#31 I Feel Old
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#49 Corporate malfeasance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#64 Isolationism and War Profiteering
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#75 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#49 Fateful Choices
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#27 British socialism / anti-trust
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#56 "One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#94 The Brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, and Their Secret World War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#68 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#83 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#10 Separation church and state
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#63 One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#97 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#40 Job Loyalty

More recently, rhetoric in congress was that Sarbanes-Oxley would guarantee that executives and auditors did jailtime, however it required SEC to do soemthing. Possibly because even GAO didn't believe SEC was doing anything, it started doing reports of public company fraudulent financial reports, even show increase after SOX goes into effect (and nobody doing jailtime). Then there is Madoff congressional hearings that had testimony from person that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff (SEC's hands were forced when Madoff turned himself in, speculation that he had defrauded some unsavory characters and he was looking for gov. protection).

military-industrial complex posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
Enron
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
Sarbanes-Oxley
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
Financial Reporting Fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud.fraud
Madoff
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff

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The ICL 2900

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The ICL 2900
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 17:11:25 -0800
Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> writes:
DEC was pretty strong on special vocabulary and NIH, even if they made excellent machines and support/documentation.

I've told story periodically how head of IBM POK (large mainframe) considered a major contributor to VMS (closing vm370/CMS development group in burlington mall and trying to transfer all to POK to work on MVS/XA ... but some number escaping to DEC ... and a few to PRIME)

Many years later, ran into a DEC executive to OSF ... was one of the former Burlington people that had escaped to DEC (although not any of those listed here)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Software_Foundation
but is one of the DEC execs listed here
http://tech-insider.org/vms/research/1990/1025-a.html

a couple recent posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#58 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#79 VM370 Development

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The ICL 2900

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The ICL 2900
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:33:55 -0800
Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> writes:
This is, of course, true of other companies, too. IBM and DASD (Direct Access Storage Device (basically, a hard drive)) comes immediately to mind.

trivia: "dasd" was invented before it was apparent that disk would dominate ... there were also other DASD like drums and mag-strips (2321),

650 drum
https://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/650/650_ph09.html
more magnetic drum
https://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/650/650_pr1.html
2301
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/drum.html
2321 data cell
https://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/storage/storage_2321.html
more 2321
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/datacell.html

posts getting to play enginneer in bldgs 14&15
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk

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Zero-copy write on modern motherboards

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Zero-copy write on modern motherboards
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 21:06:30 -0800
cruff@ruffspot.net (Craig Ruff) writes:
Indeed, they may have sold one system, or had a tenative agreement to sell one. Mesa went out of business pretty quickly.

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#63 Zero-copy write on modern motherboards

In 1980, when STL was moving 300 people from the IMS group to offsite bldg, with access back to STL datacenter, I got con'ed into writing the channel-extender support downloading channel programs to remote A510 (the A510 was enhanced to A515 to include disk channel program search arguments) .... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#channel.extender

I periodically got calls from NCAR IBM account team to answer questions about HYPERchannel. also somewhat related posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt

1988, I got asked to help LLNL standardize some serial stuff they had ... which quickly becomes fibre channel standard ... including downloading i/o programs to remote end.

about same time senior disk engineer got talk scheduled at communication group internal annual world-wide conferrence ... supposedly on 3174 performance ... but opened the talk with statement was going to be responsible for demise of disk division. The issue was the communication group had strategic responsibility for everything that crossed the datacenter walls, was fiercely fighting off distributed computing and client/server trying to preserve their dumb terminal paradigm. The disk division was seeing data fleeing datacenter to more distributed computing friendly platforms with drop in disk sales. The disk division had come up with a number of solutions to address the situation, but they were constantly being vetoed by the communication group.

As a result disk division was providing investment funding for outside companies (anything that might sell disks) ... like mesa archival ... and they asked us to visit mesa archival a number of times and try and provide any help we could. We were also working with datatree (from LANL, being marketed by General Atomics, which was also operating san diego supercomputer center) and Unitree (LLNL filesystem) ... and some number of others.

triva: NSC tried to get IBM to release the 1980 support I did for channel extender ... but there was a group in POK that was playing with some serial stuff, and got it veto'ed (they were afraid if my support was in the market, they would have harder time getting their stuff released). They finally did get their stuff released in 1990 as ESCON, when it was already obsolete.

misc. past posts mentioning 3rd party transfers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#21 Disk caching and file systems. Disk history...people forget
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#66 commodity storage servers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#46 What goes into a 3090?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002f.html#60 Mainframes and "mini-computers"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#47 send/recv vs. raw RDMA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003g.html#22 303x, idals, dat, disk head settle, and other rambling folklore
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003p.html#46 comp.arch classic: the 10-bit byte
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004d.html#75 DASD Architecture of the future
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#33 The attack of the killer mainframes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#43 Barbless
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#47 Using a PC as DASD
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#23 Larrabee delayed: anyone know what's happening?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#63 25 reasons why hardware is still hot at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#85 3270 Emulator Software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#58 Other early NSFNET backbone
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#77 IBM and the Computer Revolution
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#47 GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#26 [Poll] Computing favorities

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The ICL 2900
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 13:13:51 -0800
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
And then there are SSDs, which today are stronger than ever. (It's questionable whether the D even deserves to be there, aside from the fact that SSDs emulate disks.)

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#66 The ICL 2900

recent reference to vulcan:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#57 3350 disks

which was going to be electronic disk in the late 70s, but it turned out that it got canceled when IBM observed that customers were buying all the chips as fast as fast as IBM could make it at the higher markup processor memory. the vulcan people had earlier got a feature that I tried to have added to 3350 disk because they thot it might affect their target market.

we then started buying "1655" that could operate either as emulated 2305 fixed head disk ... or in native 4k record mode. This turned out to be from another electronic chip memory maker ... using chips that failed test for processor memory ... but could still be used for emulated disks (it looked like IBM quality control would never have come up with such a solution, once a chip failed a test, it was junked, ever if it could still have been used for another purpose).

SSDs that could preserve data across off loss of power, have advanced and the number of lifetime writes have dramatically increased (90s it was measured in tens of thousands) ... more recently there have been competing articles ... configuring SSDs for data that has fewer writes ... versus SSDs having lifetimes that will outlast hard disks.

past posts mentioning getting to play disk engineer in bldgs 14&15
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk

past posts mentioning 1655:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#17 database (or b-tree) page sizes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#53 mainframe question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#31 index searching
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#17 AS/400 and MVS - clarification please
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#40 Do any architectures use instruction count instead of timer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#15 Disk drives as commodities. Was Re: Yamhill
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#17 Disk drives as commodities. Was Re: Yamhill
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003c.html#55 HASP assembly: What the heck is an MVT ABEND 422?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003m.html#39 S/360 undocumented instructions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004d.html#73 DASD Architecture of the future
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#3 Expanded Storage
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#5 He Who Thought He Knew Something About DASD
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#51 winscape?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#38 Is VIO mandatory?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#1 Multiple address spaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006e.html#46 using 3390 mod-9s
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#57 virtual memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#36 REAL memory column in SDSF
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#30 Why magnetic drums was/are worse than disks ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#59 FBA rant
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#26 Tom's Hdw review of SSDs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#9 Poster of computer hardware events?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#4 Remembering the CDC 6600
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#15 Flash memory arrays
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#54 August 7, 1944: today is the 65th Anniversary of the Birth of the Computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#11 Mainframe Executive article on the death of tape
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#22 Mainframe Executive article on the death of tape
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#55 Mainframe Executive article on the death of tape
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#82 [OT] What is the protocal for GMT offset in SMTP (e-mail) header time-stamp?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#78 Software that breaks computer hardware( was:IBM 029 service manual )
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#75 I'd forgotten what a 2305 looked like
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#9 program coding pads
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#43 history of Programming language and CPU in relation to each
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#0 Query for Destination z article -- mainframes back to the future
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#64 Mac at 30: A love/hate relationship from the support front
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#24 What was a 3314?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The ICL 2900
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 13:48:50 -0800
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
we then started buying "1655" that could operate either as emulated 2305 fixed head disk ... or in native 4k record mode. This turned out to be from another electronic chip memory maker ... using chips that failed test for processor memory ... but could still be used for emulated disks (it looked like IBM quality control would never have come up with such a solution, once a chip failed a test, it was junked, ever if it could still have been used for another purpose).

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#66 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#68 The ICL 2900

now 3090 did something different ... because it had a number of issues.

MVS/XA was extremely bloated software and the 3880 disk control unit (3380 disks) had extremely high channel busy (much higher than the previous 3830 controller ... even when doing 3mbyte data tranfers).

As part of compensating for the extremely high 3880 controller channel busy ... they had to double the number of the channels in the original design (in order to meet aggregate i/o throughput), which increased the number of TCMs, which increased the manufacturing costs (there was joke that 3090 product would charge off the extra TCM cost to the 3880 product group).

Double number of channels, for more aggregate throughput, needed higher number of concurrent tasks and the extremely bloated design, both needed more memory than turned out could be physically packaged within transmission latency limits. So they packaged the additional memory as "extended storage" with a wide, fast bus ... and software support that does 4k page moves between processor memory and extended store (synchronous instruction, was a long instruction, but much shorter than pathlength through i/o and interrupt routine).

later when trying to position as "supercomputer", it needed to be able to do HiPPI I/O
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIPPI
recent posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#63 Zero-copy write on modern motherboards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#67 Zero-copy write on modern motherboards

HIPPI transfer rates were faster than 3090 i/o subsystem could handle. Sort of kludge, they cut into the side of "extended store" bus and used peek/poke reserved addresses to perform HIPPI i/O.

past posts mentioning 3090 extended store:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#16 Would multi-core replace SMPs?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#41 A History Of Mainframe Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#3 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#50 The Subroutine Call
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#99 SHARE Blog: News Flash: The Mainframe (Still) Isn't Dead

past posts mentioning 3090 needed to double number of channels (and add extra TCM) because of very high 3880 channel busy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004n.html#15 360 longevity, was RISCs too close to hardware?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004n.html#22 Shipwrecks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#13 What was the historical price of a P/390?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#16 What was the historical price of a P/390?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#37 CKD DASD
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#0 coax (3174) throughput
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#45 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#22 3270 archaeology
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#19 Deja Cloud?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#27 NASA unplugs their last mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#94 Can Mainframes Be Part Of Cloud Computing?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#95 Can anybody give me a clear idea about Cloud Computing in MAINFRAME ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#3 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#88 Formal definition of Speed Matching Buffer

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The ICL 2900
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 18:41:23 -0800
hancock4 writes:
But by the time MVS/XA came out, the customers for that system were experienced and sophisticated. Wouldn't they have noticed the poor performance and heavy usage as they attempted to tune the machine for their needs, and then give IBM grief over the design? Computers, especially the big ones, were still extremely expensive to buy and operate (lots of power, lots of a/c). Customers were sensitive about large costs.

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#66 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#68 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#69 The ICL 2900

lots of factors ... including 3090 machines were faster ... so obfuscation and misdirection that because they were faster, needed a lot more turning/configuring.

also marketing respun the doubling of the planned number of channels ... as how great an i/o machine the 3090 was with all those channels ... as opposed to the number of channels channels had been doubled to compensate for the big increase in 3880 controller channel busy time.

note also, users weren't moving from MVS to MVS/XA as fast as they were supposed to. in order to help, the internal development virtual machine facility (which they never intended to release to customers) was packaged as the "migration aid". recent posts mentioning migration aid
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#79 VM370 Development
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#32 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#36 IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

note also PR/SM-LPAR was originally developed for 3090 in response to Amdahl's hypervisor i.e. subset of virtual machine function built into the machine hardware ... partitioning into multiple logical machines. LPAR increasingly become default operation ... which could be construed as partitioning all machines resources into subsets small enough to be efficiently managed by MVS technologies.

Note also I've recently mentioned starting to claim in the mid-70s that disk relative system throughput was declining and in 1st half of 80s claiming that it had declined by order of magnitude since 60s. Disk division executives took exception and assigned the division system performance group to refute my claims. After a few weeks they came back and essentially said that I had slightly understated the issue. This was respun into share presentation about configuring disks for better throughput, session B874 at SHARE 63, 18Aug1984 ... not long before 3090 announce ... feb1985
https://web.archive.org/web/20230719145910/https://www.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_PP3090.html

3090 significantly increase processor performance .... while not only had disks not matched that improvement (relative system throughput declined) ... the 3880 actually declined in absolute terms compared to 3830. The 3330->3380 transfer rate had increased from 800k/sec to 3m/sec ... but the 3880 controller processing had actually slowed down compared to 3830 controller. The 3090 people had planned number of channels based on the 3mbyte/sec transfer rate, but assumed 3880 controller would have channel busy overhead same as (or better than) 3830 ... but 3880 had much worse channel busy overhead for each operation (driving need to compensate for increased channel busy by significantly increasing number of channels).

Finally MVS/XA was still very static resource management ... with manually setable tuning parameters ... not like the dynamic adaptive stuff that I had done as undergraduate in the 60s. some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#fairshare

past posts mentioning B874:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#18 AS/400 and MVS - clarification please
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#46 AS/400 and MVS - clarification please
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#3 using 3390 mod-9s
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#68 DASD Response Time (on antique 3390?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#5 Poster of computer hardware events?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#71 308x Processors - was "Mainframe articles"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#7 My Vintage Dream PC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#34 A Complete History Of Mainframe Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#52 Hercules; more information requested
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#67 ACP, One of the Oldest Open Source Apps
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#1 "The Naked Mainframe" (Forbes Security Article)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#70 25 reasons why hardware is still hot at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#31 Wax ON Wax OFF -- Tuning VSAM considerations
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#32 OS idling
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#33 History of Hard-coded Offsets
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#18 Mainframe Slang terms
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#35 CKD DASD
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#61 Speed of Old Hard Disks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#1 Multiple Virtual Memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#5 Why are organizations sticking with mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#32 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#73 Tape vs DASD - Speed/time/CPU utilization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#39 A bit of IBM System 360 nostalgia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#62 ISO documentation of IBM 3375, 3380 and 3390 track format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#72 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made 30 years agotoday
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#90 What's the difference between doing performance in a mainframe environment versus doing in others
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#87 Death of spinning disk?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#0 Miniskirts and mainframes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#110 Is there a source for detailed, instruction-level performance info?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#12 You count as an old-timer if (was Re: Origin of the phrase "XYZZY")
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#21 What was a 3314?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#68 Raspberry Pi 3?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#38 How the internet was invented
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#40 Floating point registers or general purpose registers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#43 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#45 Resurrected! Paul Allen's tech team brings 50-year-old supercomputer back from the dead
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#32 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance

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China's Rise in Artificial Intelligence

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: China's Rise in Artificial Intelligence
Date: 21 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook
China's Rise in Artificial Intelligence
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/02/china-artificial-intelligence/516615/

China May Soon Surpass America on the Artificial Intelligence Battlefield
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/china-may-soon-surpass-america-the-artificial-intelligence-19524

China's military approaching 'near parity' with the West
http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-military-near-parity-west-2017-2

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The ICL 2900

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The ICL 2900
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 22:31:55 -0800
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
SSDs that could preserve data across off loss of power, have advanced and the number of lifetime writes have dramatically increased (90s it was measured in tens of thousands) ... more recently there have been competing articles ... configuring SSDs for data that has fewer writes ... versus SSDs having lifetimes that will outlast hard disks.

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#66 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#68 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#69 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#70 The ICL 2900

SSDs to Benefit from Machine Learning in Data Storage
http://www.infostor.com/disk-arrays/ssds-to-benefit-from-machine-learning-in-data-storage.html

The final question that's worth asking is how effective is this machine learning in storage systems technology in practice? What are the potential gains. "I have seen twenty fold increases in endurance with some trade-offs, but realistically five to seven times endurance gains are what is probably possible," concludes Coughlin.

... snip ...

flash, eeprom, ssd, etc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory

Although flash memory is technically a type of EEPROM, the term "EEPROM" is generally used to refer specifically to non-flash EEPROM which is erasable in small blocks, typically bytes.[citation needed] Because erase cycles are slow, the large block sizes used in flash memory erasing give it a significant speed advantage over non-flash EEPROM when writing large amounts of data. As of 2013,[needs update?] flash memory costs much less than byte-programmable EEPROM and had become the dominant memory type wherever a system required a significant amount of non-volatile solid-state storage.

....

In December 2012, Taiwanese engineers from Macronix revealed their intention to announce at the 2012 IEEE International Electron Devices Meeting that it has figured out how to improve NAND flash storage read/write cycles from 10,000 to 100 million cycles using a "self-healing" process that uses a flash chip with "onboard heaters that could anneal small groups of memory cells."[26] The built-in thermal annealing replaces the usual erase cycle with a local high temperature process that not only erases the stored charge, but also repairs the electron-induced stress in the chip, giving write cycles of at least 100 million.[27] The result is a chip that can be erased and rewritten over and over, even when it should theoretically break down. As promising as Macronix's breakthrough could be for the mobile industry, however, there are no plans for a commercial product to be released any time in the near future.[28]

... snip ...

chipcards in the early 90s had eeprom with 10k-30k write lifetimes. I was brought in to evaluate DIGICASH assets, there were patents that focused on minimizing the number of writes required to perform a transaction (extending chipcard lifetime). misc. posts mentioning digicash:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm27.htm#57 The fundamental _barrier to entry_ in the business of payment systems
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#26 Fixing SSL (was Re: Dutch Transport Card Broken)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay6.htm#erictalk Announce: Eric Hughes giving Stanford EE380 talk this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay6.htm#erictalk2 Announce: Eric Hughes giving Stanford EE380 talk this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#39 "Trusted" CA - Oxymoron?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#53 Digital cash is the future?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#81 history of Programming language and CPU in relation to each other
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#45 LA Times commentary: roll out "smart" credit cards to deter fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#7 Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally

some recent SSD evaluation
http://techreport.com/review/27909/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-theyre-all-dead

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The ICL 2900
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 09:49:47 -0800
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
A typical FC setup (what Lynn might call FiCON) will have two controller ports on a host connected to redundant fabrics (multiple directors/switches) connected to storage units. The storage units are very capable computers in their own right which have hundreds or thousands of individual disk drives.

as I've said frequently ... 1980, STL was moving 300 people from the IMS (database) group to offsite bldg and I got ocn'ed into doing remote channel support ... so channel-attached controllers could be placed at the offsite bldg. Part of that was downloading channel programs to the remote end ... to help offset the enormous latency of the heavy weight channel programm chatter. The vendor then tried to get IBM to let them release the support ... but a group in POK that was working on some serial sttuff got it veto'ed (they were afraid it might make it more difficult to get their stuff released). Their stuff is finally released a decade later as ESCON in 1990 with ES9000, when it is already obsolete. some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#channel.extender
semi-related recent posts (over in comp.arch) ... HIPPI channel standard out of LANL
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#63 Zero-copy write on modern motherboards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#67 Zero-copy write on modern motherboards

In 1988, I was asked to help LLNL standardize some serial stuff they were working which quickly becomes fibre channel standard (including downloading i/o programs to remote end ... to help mask i/o program latency) ... at the time 1gbit.

As part of HA/CMP were worked with group in Hursley that was doing some (copper, 80mbit/sec full-duplex) serial stuff that packetizes SCSI commands. I do some benchmarks show 9333 with half-dozen physical SCSI drives has much higher throughput than same number of identical drives running over SCSI bus. I want it to evolve into interop with 1/8th and 1/4th speed fibre-channel standard instead it evolves into (non-interoperable) 160mbit SSA. old reference
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13 SSA
and ha/cmp posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp
wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Storage_Architecture

In the 90s, some POK (mainframe) channel engineers get involved in fibre-channel standard and define a heavy-weight protocol for fibre-channel standard that enormously reduces the native I/O throughput (I still have archived fibre-channel committee email list archived from the period) which is eventually released as FICON. Most recent published benchmarks I can find is z196 peak i/o benchmark that got 2M IOPS using 104 FICONs running over 104 fibre-channel. About the same time there was native fibre-channel announced for E5-2600 blade claiming over million IOPS (i.e. two such native fibre-channel having higher throughput than 104 FICON running over 104 fibre-channel). some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon

They have recently done something a little like the I/O program download that I did in 1980s (offset enormous protocol chatter latency) ... referenced as zHPF/TCW ... but only claims 30% improvement over "native" FICON (aka maybe 70 FICON to get 2M IOPS, compared to two fibre-channel getting over 2M IOPS native throughput).

The other issue is that they still have to emulate CKD "DASD" ... even though real CKD "DASD" haven't been manufactured for decades, being emulated on industry standard fixed-block disks ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dasd

Also did meetings on SCI serial stuff ... which came out of SLAC ... which had specs for a number of things including I/O and memory bus ... probably best known for scalable memory used for 256way SMP Sequent and Data General (64 4-way intel boards) and Convex/HP (64 2-way snake boards) and some others.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Coherent_Interface
which plays with futurebus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futurebus
and infiniband
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InfiniBand

in HA/CMP we were working on both commerecial cluster scale-up with RDBMS vendors and scientific/technical cluster scale-up with national labs ... as well as supercomputer filesystems ... helping with standardizing LLNL supercomputer filesystem and release as Unitree. The 95 SSA post (above) references Jan1992 meeting in Ellison's conference room on 128-way RDBMS scale-up. With a few weeks after the Ellison meeting, cluster scale-up was transferred, announced as supercomputer (for technical/scientific *ONLY*), and we were told we couldn't work on anything with more than four processors. press from 17Feb1992, *scientific and technical* only
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters1
and 11May1992 "IBM" *caught by surprise* by national lab interest in cluster supercomputers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters2
old email from the period
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa

we then decide to leave.

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The ICL 2900

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The ICL 2900
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 10:04:20 -0800
Richard Thiebaud <thiebauddick2@aol.com> writes:
What are PROFS?

plays a role here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_affair
for Olie North
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_North

used extensively in commercial, gov. and univ accounts in the 80s ... especially by higher level executives. 3270 gui/menu based productivity ... included calendering, email, etc.

PROFS group had adapted various internal apps for various components, including internal VMSG for the email client. When the VMSG author tried to offer them a much enhanced version, they attempted to get him fired. The whole thing quieted down when he showed that his initials were in non-displayed field in every PROFS email. After that, he only shared the VMSG source with me and one other person.

precursor to OfficeVision
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_OfficeVision
also mentioned here
https://siarchives.si.edu/blog/history-email-smithsonian

recent posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#25 How the U.S. Hobbled Its Hacking Case Against Russia and Enabled Truthers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#67 Trump White House Senior Staff Have Private RNC Email Accounts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#68 Trump White House Senior Staff Have Private RNC Email Accounts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#98 360 & Series/1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#10 IBM 1970s

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The ICL 2900

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The ICL 2900
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 13:08:11 -0800
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
As part of HA/CMP were worked with group in Hursley that was doing some (copper, 80mbit/sec full-duplex) serial stuff that packetizes SCSI commands. I do some benchmarks show 9333 with half-dozen physical SCSI drives has much higher throughput than same number of identical drives running over SCSI bus. I want it to evolve into interop with 1/8th and 1/4th speed fibre-channel standard instead it evolves into (non-interoperable) 160mbit SSA. old reference
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13 SSA
and ha/cmp posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp
wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Storage_Architecture


re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#73 The ICL 2900

trivia: cluster scale-up is transferred, announced as supercomuter, we are told we can't work on anything with more than four processors. and we decide to leave.

Two of the oracle people that we were working with (and named in the Jan1992 Ellison conference meeting) later have also left and are at a small client/server startup responsible for something called "commerce server" and we are brought in as consultants because they want to do payment transactions on the server. The startup had also invented this technology they call "SSL" they want to use, the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce". some old posts mentioning "SSL" digital certificates
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#sslcert

other trivia: I had done some of the work on the original relational/SQL implementation (in sjr/bldg28) ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr

and I was also involved in the tech transfer of System/R to Endicott for SQL/DS ... "under the radar" while the corporation was involved in the next new DBMS "EAGLE". When "EAGLE" implodes there is request for how fast could there be a relational port to MVS ... that is eventually announced as DB2 (original for decision support *ONLY*). One of the other Oracle people mentioned in the JAN1992 Ellison conference meeting ... said that when at IBM, he was the primary person responsible for SQL/DS tech transfer from Endicott back to STL (for DB2) .... although SJR/bldg28 and STL/bldg90 are less than 10miles apart (I used to ride my bike between the two bldgs). another ref:
http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/

I use to work with Jim Gray at IBM Research ... but when he left for tandem, he palmed some number of things on me ... including DBMS consulting with the IMS group ... some old email:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#email801006
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#email801016

which has nothing at all to do (directly) about 1980 getting con'ed into doing channel extender support for the 300 people from the IMS group being moved to offsite bldg
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#channel.extender

or getting to play disk engineer in bldgs 14&15
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk

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Another Big Company Departs California

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Another Big Company Departs California
Date: 22 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook
Another Big Company Departs California
http://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/another-big-company-departs-california-will-last-one-to-leave-shut-the-lights/

Nestle was building new hdqtrs in Purchase, NY ... before it is completely finished, it sells the bldg to IBM for ten cents on the dollar. Then later in the 90s, when IBM was selling off lots of stuff to raise cash (improving balance sheet for executive bonuses) ... IBM sells it to MasterCard for their new hdqtrs. Right after MasterCard moves in, we have executive planning session there ... and they mention that they paid IBM less for the bldg than it cost them to replace the hardware on all internal doors (possibly 1% of the original cost to build). a couple past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#55 Any candidates for best acronyms?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#51 [Poll] Computing favorities
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#68 Lineage of TPF

Lots of companies seem to have moved to Washington, DC area ... apparently business is increasingly about lobbying congress.

Other misc. trivia: late last century we were criticizing some internet technology, at a financial standards meeting sponsored by large financial lobbying group in DC, we were asked to step out of the meeting to speak to somebody. The person we were introduced to said he was from a NJ ethnic organization and some investment bankers asked him to talk to us, it was nothing personal, purely business. The investment bankers had upcoming IPO involving the technology and were expecting $2B, but our criticism could be a 10% downside, and would we just shutup.

We went to some federal LEOs and were told that investment bankers are like that. Some number had walked away "clean" from the S&L crisis and were then running Internet IPO mills (invest a couple tens of millions, "hype" for a couple years and then IPO for a couple billion, companies later fail, leaving the field clear for the next round of IPOs), and were predicted next to get into securitized mortgages (aka the economic mess from last decade).

S&L crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#s&l.crisis
toxic CDOs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

posts mentioning Internet IPO mills
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#61 Association Of Certified Fraud Examiners Release 2014 Report On Fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#94 Why Financialization Has Run Amok
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#37 Income Inequality
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#78 The Global Financial Crisis: Analysis and Policy Implications
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#10 25 Years: How the Web began
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#83 Ma Bell is coming back and, boy, is she pissed! She bought Bugs Bunny!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#87 Finance Is Not the Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#43 when to get out???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#50 when to get out???

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Corporate Tax Rate

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Corporate Tax Rate
Date: 22 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook
2008 (CBS? news) broadcast roundtable at annual economist conference. they referenced congress considered the most corrupt institution on earth in large part for selling tax loopholes. they claimed that US would get back 6% of (lost) GDP going to flat rate with no loopholes (3% gain for eliminating enormous resources lost dealing with tax code and 3% businesses making non-optimal decisions to conform to loopholes). They made point that biggest lobbying against such change are the tax industry responsible for the "lost" 3% (CPA, tax lawyers, tax software, etc) and the country of Ireland (loopholes from early part of century that allow corporate profits to be exported offshore to havens that cut deals for trivial taxes). They observed downside was that congress would then invent some other graft and corruption.

2002 Congress lets fiscal responsibility act expire (spending can't exceed tax revenue, on its way to eliminating all federal debt). 2010 CBO report, 2003-2009 taxes were reduced by $6T and spending increased by $6T for $12T gap compared to fiscal responsible budget.

fiscal responsibility act:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act
tax evasion, tax fraud, tax havens, tax avoidance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion

flat-rate tax posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#71 Cormpany sponsored insurance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#49 Taxes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#43 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#83 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#20 China's yuan 'set to usurp US dollar' as world's reserve currency
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#31 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#48 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#49 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#40 F.B.I. Faces New Setback in Computer Overhaul
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#37 taking down the machine - z9 series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#58 History--automated payroll processing by other than a computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#69 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#73 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#59 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#18 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#80 A Close Look at the Perry Tax Plan
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#96 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95

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The ICL 2900

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The ICL 2900
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 18:00:23 -0800
Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> writes:
Yes, we had it here. We had a pair of 370/145s, and each machine could support FOUR PROFS users! More than 4, and then the system got REALLY slow. Well, 145's were not speed demons, but that seems awfully mediocre.

recent PROFS posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#25 How the U.S. Hobbled Its Hacking Case Against Russia and Enabled Truthers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#67 Trump White House Senior Staff Have Private RNC Email Accounts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#68 Trump White House Senior Staff Have Private RNC Email Accounts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#98 360 & Series/1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#10 IBM 1970s
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#74 The ICL 2900

vm/370 has various problems periodically over the years .... increasingly bloated software and real memory requirements, and some of the stuff done inside the PROFS software they did was really bloated.

part of the issue in the morph from cp67 to vm370, they did removed some function and simplified other things.

I recently mentioned doing simulated user benchmark at the univ with early version of cp67 on 768k 360/67 against tss/360 .... simulated fortran program input, edit, compile and execution. cp67/cms had better interactive response and thruput with 35 simulated users than tss/360 had with four simulated users.

vm370/cms PROFS bottleneck on 370/145 ... if standard memory 512kbytes, 128 4k pages minus what might be taken by various microcode features ... reducing available real storage to possibly 480k-500k bytes maybe 120 pages .... likely was increasing bloated kernel fixed real storage requirement ... which would have resulted in CMS/PROFS page thrashing in what was left. PROFS available in the 80s ... would most likely be some VM/SP which could easily be 200k bytes fixed kernel ... leaving say 70 4k pages.

bloated vmsp/cms memory requirements in the 80s was significantly masked by 8mbyte and larger real memory machines with a couple hundred kilobytes of CMS and application "shared pages" relatively consistently cached in real memory (rather than constantly have to be paged in and out).

In the mid-70s ... I was asked to get vm370/cms up and running on 256kbyte 370/125-ii. At one time, cp67 ran easily on 256kbyte 360/67 ... but vm370 no longer fit on such small machine. I had to do some unnatural things to vm370 fixed real storage requirements to get it down to 80kbytes (for the 125) ... and it got much, much worse going into the 80s.

In the mid-80s (PROFS timeframe), I was blamed for slipping the VM/PC (single user vm370/cms hooked into PC/XT) initial shipping to customers, because I showed it was page thrashing in 384kbyte storage size. They did a kludge 128kbytes to the board, increasing the real storage to 512kbytes ... which only partially mediated the page thrashing (for single user). misc. past posts mentioning vm/pc:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003f.html#56 ECPS:VM DISPx instructions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003h.html#40 IBM system 370
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#7 Whatever happened to IBM's VM PC software?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#42 Mythical computers and magazine reviews
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#78 Notes on two presentations by Gordon Bell ca. 1998
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#48 Speed of Old Hard Disks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#77 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#77 zEC12, and previous generations, "why?" type question - GPU computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#10 AMC proposes 1980s computer TV series Halt & Catch Fire
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#8 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made30yearsagotoday
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#18 June 1985 email

the vm/pc was 68k emulating 370 instructions at about 100KIPS ... which was about 1/3rd of 370/145 KIPS ... but the big issue was the increasingly bloated real storage requirements (both fixed real storage as well as working set sizes).

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60 Minutes interview with Grace Hopper

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 60 Minutes interview with Grace Hopper
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 21:29:09 -0800
JimP. <solosam90@gmail.com> writes:
It appearantly took several thousand years for people to move from the Japan/Korea area to South America. The distances travelled were less than 100 km per generation.

I can understand that. Some of my ancestors were Shoshone. Some tribal members wanted to go south and get the new animals called horses. The tribe decided not to, they knew where the animals migrated and the plants they could eat in the area of what is now Wyoming. Some decided to head south anyway, and became the group named Comanche.


The Real Story: Who Discovered America
http://www.voanews.com/a/who-discovered-america/3541542.html
First humans arrived in North America a lot earlier than believed
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/01/170116091428.htm
Did the first humans arrive in North America 10,000 years earlier than thought? Bones fund in Canada cave show 'indisputable' marks from stone tools
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4125730/Humans-arrived-North-America-10-000-years-earlier.html

Comanche Empire
https://www.amazon.com/Comanche-Empire-Lamar-Western-History-ebook/dp/B001HZZ05C/

In the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries, a Native American empire rose to dominate the fiercely contested lands of the American Southwest, the southern Great Plains, and northern Mexico. This powerful empire, built by the Comanche Indians, eclipsed its various European rivals in military prowess, political prestige, economic power, commercial reach, and cultural influence. Yet, until now, the Comanche empire has gone unrecognized in American history.

... snip ...

recent post mentioning Comanche Empire
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#14 1970--protesters seize computer center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#44 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#45 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#48 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#92 "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#55 Comanche Empire

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The ICL 2900 Buying a computer in the 1960s

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The ICL 2900 Buying a computer in the 1960s
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 08:14:44 -0800
pechter@pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) writes:
That was the way at DEC, IBM, Bell Labs. All of those companies started to lose that in the cutbacks of the 90's to 2000s.

In the late 70s, 3270 terminals were viewed as expensive/scarce resource ... most places relegated to terminal rooms and budgeted as part of the fall plan ... even tho some of us done a business case showing the 3yr amortized cost of 3270 terminal was about the same monthly cost of business phone that was default on all desks.

There was a moment around 1980 where there was a rapidly spreading rumor that some of the top IBM executives were starting to communicate via email. At that point there was a rush by middle management to pre-empt the annual 3270 terminal allocation, redirecting them to their desks ... making it appear like they too were computer literate.

After IBM/PCs and 3270 terminal emulation, the biggest and largest IBM/PCs became status symbols for middle management ... even if it met intercepting allocation needed for development projects. They typically were turn on in the morning with the VM370 logo burning into the face of the screen ... or in some cases, logged on and the PROFS menu burning itself into the screen (while administrative assistants actually handle things like email ... frequently even printing paper hard copy so the middle manager could read them).

recent posts mentioning PROFS:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#68 Trump White House Senior Staff Have Private RNC Email Accounts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#98 360 & Series/1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#10 IBM 1970s
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#74 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#78 The ICL 2900

some past posts mentioning rapidly spreading rumor that top executives communicated by email and middle management started pre-empting 3270 terminal allocation as status symbols:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#23 sorting was: The System/360 Model 20 Wasn't As Bad As All That
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#7 Why these original FORTRAN quirks?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#41 another item related to ASCII vs. EBCDIC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#34 IBM Poughkeepsie?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#43 The 50th Anniversary of the Legendary IBM 1401
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#49 The 50th Anniversary of the Legendary IBM 1401
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#51 The 50th Anniversary of the Legendary IBM 1401
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#88 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#13 I actually miss working at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#37 IBM cuts more than 1,000 U.S. Workers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#40 Strategy subsumes culture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#58 Dualcase vs monocase. Was: Article for the boss
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#98 PROFS & GML
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#89 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)

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The ICL 2900 Buying a computer in the 1960s

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The ICL 2900 Buying a computer in the 1960s
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 08:41:49 -0800
pechter@pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) writes:
That was the way at DEC, IBM, Bell Labs. All of those companies started to lose that in the cutbacks of the 90's to 2000s.

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#80 The ICL 2900 Buying a computer in the 1960s

I was blamed for online computer conferencing on the internal network (larger than the arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until some time mid-80s) in the late 70s and early 80s. Folklore is that when the corporate executive committee was informed of online computer conferencing (and the internal network), 5of6 wanted to fire me. some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#cmc

a periodically virulent one was a trip report that i distributed about visiting Jim Gray a few months after he went to tandem ... from IBMJARGON:

Tandem Memos - n. Something constructive but hard to control; a fresh of breath air (sic). That's another Tandem Memos. A phrase to worry middle management. It refers to the computer-based conference (widely distributed in 1981) in which many technical personnel expressed dissatisfaction with the tools available to them at that time, and also constructively criticized the way products were [are] developed. The memos are required reading for anyone with a serious interest in quality products. If you have not seen the memos, try reading the November 1981 Datamation summary.

... snip ...

some number of task forces were kicked off afterwards ... and also conflated with a memo that Jim wrote on leaving IBM, also from IBMJARGON:

MIP envy - n. The term, coined by Jim Gray in 1980, that began the Tandem Memos (q.v.). MIP envy is the coveting of other's facilities - not just the CPU power available to them, but also the languages, editors, debuggers, mail systems and networks. MIP envy is a term every programmer will understand, being another expression of the proverb The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.

... snip ...

and as referenced, it was a trip report that I distributed that kicked things off ... not Jim's earlier goodby memo ... a version hear:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#email800920
in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#17 Jim Gray Is Missing
slightly different version here
http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/gray/papers/MIPEnvy.pdf

In any case, one of the task forces kicked off was to visit and report on other research institutions (including bell labs) ... different pieces/references in these past posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#61 MVS History (all parts)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#56 AT&T Labs vs. Google Labs - R&D History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#11 Yet another squirrel question - Results (very very long post)

include surveys of computer resources, CMU, Stanford, LBL, MIT, Bell Labs, etc

other recent reference to Jim palming stuff on me when he left for tandem:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#75 The ICL 2900

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The ICL 2900

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The ICL 2900
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 12:10:44 -0800
pechter@pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) writes:
(Youtube just made me bite my tongue. Damn BSDNow podcast just mentioned porting VMS from ia64 to amd64. They were kind of joking about it. Too bad some folks never had the exposure to the slick things that exist under VMS including real clusters.)

part of doing HA/CMP ... recent posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#27 History of Mainframe Cloud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#58 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#85 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#73 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#75 The ICL 2900

was cluster commercial scale-up ... working with RDBMS vendors that had both vax cluster & unix support in the same sort base. To make things simpler, I did cluster distributed lock manager that supported the vax/cluster DLM API. However, the RDBMS vendors also had a list of dozen or so things in vax/cluster that could have been done better ... included fall-over recovery elapsed time. I used that knowledge as well as having worked on mainframe clusters (aka "loosely-coupled multiprocessing") back to the mid-70s and having been involved in the orginal relational/sql implementation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr

ha/cmp posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

other trivia: my wife (must have been in kindergarten) had been in the gburg JES group and POK executive con'ed her into coming to POK to be in charge of "loosely-coupled" architecture. While there she did Peer-Coupled Shared Data architecture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#shareddata

she didn't remain long, in part because of little real uptake (except for IMS hot-standby until SYSPLEX and Parallel SYSPLEX) and because the communication group was constantly trying to force her into using SNA/VTAM for loosely-coupled operation.

past posts mentioning distributed lock manager
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#64 distributed locking patents
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#40 Disk drive behavior
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#66 KI-10 vs. IBM at Rutgers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001e.html#2 Block oriented I/O over IP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001j.html#47 OT - Internet Explorer V6.0
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#5 OT - Internet Explorer V6.0
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#67 Blade architectures
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002f.html#1 Blade architectures
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002k.html#8 Avoiding JCL Space Abends
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#70 A few Z990 Gee-Wiz stats
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004i.html#1 Hard disk architecture: are outer cylinders still faster than inner cylinders?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004i.html#2 New Method for Authenticated Public Key Exchange without Digital Certificates
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#0 Specifying all biz rules in relational data
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#5 Tera
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#10 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#70 CAS and LL/SC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005.html#40 clusters vs shared-memory (was: Re: CAS and LL/SC (was Re: High Level Assembler for MVS & VM & VSE))
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005.html#55 Foreign key in Oracle Sql
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#26 Crash detection by OS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005i.html#42 Development as Configuration
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#8 IBM 610 workstation computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#41 IBM 610 workstation computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#20 virtual memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#32 When Does Folklore Begin???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#62 Greatest Software, System R
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#3 Why so little parallelism?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#42 Keep VM 24X7 365 days
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#50 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#61 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#19 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#24 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#55 Capacity and Relational Database
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#49 VLIW pre-history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#33 Google And IBM Take Aim At Shortage Of Distributed Computing Skills
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#46 "Server" processors for numbercrunching?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#42 Newbie question about db normalization theory: redundant keys OK?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#43 distributed lock manager
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#69 How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#81 Random thoughts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#70 Time to rewrite DBMS, says Ingres founder
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#56 performance of hardware dynamic scheduling
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#91 Microsoft versus Digital Equipment Corporation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#18 Microsoft versus Digital Equipment Corporation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#63 Intel: an expensive many-core future is ahead of us
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#71 Curiousity: largest parallel sysplex around?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#3 Is SUN going to become x86'ed ??
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#40 "Larrabee" GPU design question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#26 Natural keys vs Aritficial Keys
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#36 Ingres claims massive database performance boost
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#67 Disksize history question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#39 ACP, One of the Oldest Open Source Apps
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#84 A Faster Way to the Cloud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#57 U.S. begins inquiry of IBM in mainframe market
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#32 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#66 SYSENTER/SYSEXIT_vs._SYSCALL/SYSRET
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#54 Unix systems and Serialization mechanism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#14 Age
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#82 Hashing for DISTINCT or GROUP BY in SQL
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#23 zLinux OR Linux on zEnterprise Blade Extension???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#8 New job for mainframes: Cloud platform
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#28 NASA unplugs their last mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#53 history of Programming language and CPU in relation to each other
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#86 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made 30 yearsagotoday
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#87 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made 30 yearsagotoday
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#19 z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#44 the suckage of MS-DOS, was Re: 'Free Unix!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#73 the suckage of MS-DOS, was Re: 'Free Unix!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#40 How Larry Ellison Became The Fifth Richest Man In The World By Using IBM's Idea
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#142 IBM Continues To Crumble

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Sleepwalking Into a Nuclear Arms Race with Russia

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Sleepwalking Into a Nuclear Arms Race with Russia
Date: 23 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook
Sleepwalking Into a Nuclear Arms Race with Russia
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com/2017/02/sleepwalking-into-nuclear-arms-race.html

From CSPAN, talks about extraordinary cooperation between US & Russia military in the 90s, 25th Anniversary Implementation of Nunn-Lugar Act
https://www.c-span.org/video/?419918-3/implementation-nunnlugar-act

There were also quite a few joint projects between silicon valley and Russia in the 90s. One was involved chip verification, chips were getting so large and complex that it was no longer feasible to verify every possible combination/condition. Quite a few Russian mathematicians were hired to come up with feasible mechanisms for verifying design of increasingly complex chips. Space center engineers were also being hired for crypto and other technology work (I was told one russian engineer I met, had been responsible for space station project).

There is this theme about "Harvard being responsible for the rise of Putin" (i.e. Russia needed strongman to oppose the western capitalists intent on looting the country). John Helmer: Convicted Fraudster Jonathan Hay, Harvard's Man Who Wrecked Russia, Resurfaces in Ukraine
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/02/convicted-fraudster-jonathan-hay-harvards-man-who-wrecked-russia-resurfaces-in-ukraine.html

If you are unfamiliar with this fiasco, which was also the true proximate cause of Larry Summers' ouster from Harvard, you must read an extraordinary expose, How Harvard Lost Russia, from Institutional Investor. I am told copies of this article were stuffed in every Harvard faculty member's inbox the day Summers got a vote of no confidence and resigned shortly thereafter.

... snip ...

How Harvard lost Russia; The best and brightest of America's premier university came to Moscow in the 1990s to teach Russians how to be capitalists. This is the inside story of how their efforts led to scandal and disgrace.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160325154522/http://www.institutionalinvestor.com:80/Article/1020662/How-Harvard-lost-Russia.html

Mostly, they hurt Russia and its hopes of establishing a lasting framework for a stable Western-style capitalism, as Summers himself acknowledged when he testified under oath in the U.S. lawsuit in Cambridge in 2002. "The project was of enormous value," said Summers, who by then had been installed as the president of Harvard. "Its cessation was damaging to Russian economic reform and to the U.S.-Russian relationship."

... snip ...

I was tangentially involved ... dragged into conversation about doing 5,000 branch banks in Russia @$1M ... and how to come up with the $5B ... helping spread (non-looting) democratic capitalism ... the whole thing implodes when the rest collapses.

The Profiteers: Bechtel and the Men Who Built the World
https://www.amazon.com/Profiteers-Bechtel-Men-Built-World-ebook/dp/B010MHAHV2/

about hanford, log4296-98:

In 2000 Bechtel received the $4.3 billion deal for the cleanup, which the company estimated would cost $14 billion to complete. But eleven years later, with the job still uncompleted, Bechtel predicted that the final cost would be more than $120 billion.

... snip ...

about outsourcing of DOE labs, log4288-91:

A congressional commission, led by former undersecretary of the army Norman Augustine and retired admiral Richard Mies, concluded in 2014 that the privatization of the nuclear weapons laboratories had resulted in a "dysfunctional management and operations relationship," and "uneven collaboration with customers"--the "customers" being the DOE.

... snip ...

In 80s, under Reagan, both SECSTATE and SECDEF were Bechtel executives.

Bechtel and Los Alamos National Laboratory: The Privatization of the Nuclear Industry
https://lajicarita.wordpress.com/2012/03/30/bechtel-and-los-alamos-national-laboratory-the-privatization-of-the-nuclear-industry/
Nuclear Workers Deserve Better from Bechtel
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joanne-doroshow/nuclear-workers-deserve-b_b_6902776.html
The Department of Energy is the largest military and weapons racket in the U.S. Government.
https://pando.com/2016/04/06/profiteer/
It's a Bumpy Ride to Private Management for Los Alamos, Livermore
https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/201006/losalamos.cfm
Investigative reporter details Bechtel's influence
http://www.santafenewmexican.com/pasatiempo/books/readings_signings/investigative-reporter-details-bechtel-s-influence/article_7520013c-32ad-5af8-b836-5ba9c8710b5d.html

Military Industrial Complex
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
Perpetual War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war

past posts reference rise of Putin:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#11 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#44 No, the F-35 Can't Fight at Long Range, Either
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#45 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#26 Putin's Great Crime: He Defends His Allies and Attacks His Enemies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#70 Department of Defense Head Ashton Carter Enlists Silicon Valley to Transform the Military
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#91 Happy Dec-10 Day!!!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#122 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#16 1970--protesters seize computer center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#39 Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#73 Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#31 Putin holds phone call with Obama, urges better defense cooperation in fight against ISIS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#7 Why was no one prosecuted for contributing to the financial crisis? New documents reveal why
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#69 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#59 How Putin Weaponized Wikileaks to Influence the Election of an American President
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#22 US and UK have staged coups before
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#105 How to Win the Cyberwar Against Russia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#92 The Lessons of Henry Kissinger
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#3 Smedley Butler
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#38 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#7 Malicious Cyber Activity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#56 25th Anniversary Implementation of Nunn-Lugar Act
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#16 Trump to sign cyber security order

past posts referencing Bechtel:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#70 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#3 Smedley Butler
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#6 The Profiteers: Bechtel and the Men Who Built the World
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#11 Smedley Butler
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#18 The Winds of Reform
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#23 Nixon and the war
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#38 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#82 Gov. Privatization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#67 Trump White House Senior Staff Have Private RNC Email Accounts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#34 Good News and Bad News at Hanford, America's Most Polluted Site

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