From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Ironic old "fortune" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 17:22:24 -0700Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> writes:
I started out doing zippy. However, when we installed 6670s (ibm copier 3 with computer connection) as departmental printers around the bldg .... we modified the driver to print a random selected phrase on the separater page. I modified zippy to randomly select between the 6670 files and the original zippy file ... and then a random entry. The original random selection only worked for up to 32kbytes ... if you had file larger than 32kbytes ... it ignored the rest of the file. I had to fix the code to handle much larger files.
misc. past posts mentioning zippy:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/93.html#5 360/67, was Re: IBM's Project F/S ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#77 Inserting autom. random signature
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#78 Inserting autom. random signature
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002h.html#7 disk write caching (was: ibm icecube -- return of
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004f.html#48 Random signatures
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004k.html#48 Xah Lee's Unixism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005c.html#50 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#19 Disksize history question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#43 SNA: conflicting opinions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#55 Tell me something about how you use signature files!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#45 Taglines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#55 junking CKD; was "Social Security Confronts IT Obsolescence"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#6 Some fun with IBM acronyms and jargon (was Re: Auditors Don't Know Squat!)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#19 US money
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#28 US money
other files mentioning 6670
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#42 Enter fonts (was Re: Unix case-sensitivity: how did it originate?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#43 Enter fonts (was Re: Unix case-sensitivity: how did it originate?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#52 Enter fonts (was Re: Unix case-sensitivity: how did it originate?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#29 20th March 2000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#81 Coloured IBM DASD
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#1 What good and old text formatter are there ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#50 IBM 705 computer manual
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#5 New IBM history book out
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#31 Hercules etc. IBM not just missing a great opportunity...
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002m.html#52 Microsoft's innovations [was:the rtf format]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002o.html#24 IBM Selectric as printer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002o.html#29 6670
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003c.html#43 Early attempts at console humor?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004c.html#1 Oldest running code
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004d.html#13 JSX 328x printing (portrait)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#61 Shipwrecks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005f.html#34 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005f.html#48 1403 printers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005f.html#51 1403 printers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005f.html#54 1403 printers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#29 Job seperators
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#20 Seeking Info on XDS Sigma 7 APL
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#44 Materiel and graft
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#49 Materiel and graft
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#1 Materiel and graft
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#36 Special characters in passwords was Re: RACF - Password rules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#27 The Complete April Fools' Day RFCs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#72 Parse/Template Function
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#51 It has been a long time since Ihave seen a printer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#8a Using Military Philosophy to Drive High Value Sales
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#68 Blinkenlights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#69 Blinkenlights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#42 Password Rules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#71 Password Rules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#6 Timeline: The evolution of online communities
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#1 Does this count as 'computer' folklore?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#74 Apple iPad -- this merges with folklore
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#85 Apple iPad -- this merges with folklore
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#2 Apple iPad -- this merges with folklore
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#23 Apple iPad -- this merges with folklore
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#68 Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#43 Boyd's Briefings
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#57 IBM 029 service manual
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#59 IBM 029 service manual
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#49 GML
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#61 Mainframe Slang terms
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#1 Is email dead? What do you think?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#89 Make the mainframe work environment fun and intuitive
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#82 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#84 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#24 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#10 History of APL -- Software Preservation Group
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#21 WHAT WAS THE PROJECT YOU WERE INVOLVED/PARTICIPATED AT IBM THAT YOU WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#62 Mixing Auth and Non-Auth Modules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#19 program coding pads
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#21 program coding pads
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#53 Virginia M. Rometty elected IBM president
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#77 Just for a laugh... How to spot an old IBMer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#95 Burroughs B5000, B5500, B6500 videos
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#97 Just for a laugh ... How to spot an old IBMer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#54 Yahoo Password Breach: 7 Lessons Learned - Security - Attacks/breaches - Informationweek
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#57 Displaywriter, Unix manuals added to Bitsavers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#22 I Need A Good Password
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#95 IBM PCjr STRIPPED BARE: We tear down the machine Big Blue would rather you forgot
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#26 23Jun1969 Unbundling Announcement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#34 Special characters for Passwords
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#54 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#60 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#67 IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#66 Is the IBM Official Alumni Group becoming a ghost town? Why?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: How Desert Storm Destroyed the US Military Date: 24 Apr 2017 Blog: FacebookHow Desert Storm Destroyed the US Military
Desert Storm, 43days, only last 100hrs were land war. GAO air
effectiveness study had (CAS) so easily taking out tanks (and other
targets), that the Iraqis were walking away from them; sitting ducks,
million A10 30mm shells, Burton ("Pentagon Wars") describes getting
shells down from nearly $100 to $13, or $13M. 100hr land war describes
horrific tank battles with coalition forces taking no damage (but
don't mention if Iraqi tanks had anybody home).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War
US had supported Iraq
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War#Background
in the Iran/Iraq War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq_War
including WMDs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran-Iraq_war
sat. photo recon analyst informed White House that Saddam was
marshaling forces for invasion of Kuwait. White House says that Saddam
told them he would do no such thing and proceeded to discredit the
analyst. then the analyst informed the White House that Saddam was
marshaling forces for invasion of Saudi Arabia. Now the Bush1 has to
choose between Saudi Arabia and Saddam.
https://www.amazon.com/Long-Strange-Journey-Intelligence-ebook/dp/B004NNV5H2/
Iraq invasion of Suadi Arabia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War#Iraqi_invasion_of_Saudi_Arabia_.28Battle_of_Khafji.29
last decade, cousin of white house chief of staff Card ... was dealing
with the Iraqis at the UN and was given evidence that WMDs had been
decommissioned. She shared it with Card, Powell and others ... then is
locked up in military hospital, book was published in 2010 (before
decommissioned WMDs were declassified)
https://www.amazon.com/EXTREME-PREJUDICE-Terrifying-Story-Patriot-ebook/dp/B004HYHBK2/
military-industrial-complex wanted a war so badly that corporate reps
were telling former eastern block countries that if they voted for
IRAQ2 invasion in the UN, they would get membership in NATO and
(directed appropriation) USAID (can *ONLY* be used for purchase of
modern US arms). From law of unintended consequences ... in the
invasion, they were told to bypass ammo dumps looking for WMDs. When
they got around to going back, a million metric tons had evaporated.
Later started seeing large artillery shell IEDs ... even taking out
Abrams
https://www.amazon.com/Prophets-War-Lockheed-Military-Industrial-ebook/dp/B0047T86BA/
Claims are that Iraqis learned from Desert Storm to minimize targets for US air power.
White house initially justifies Iraq invasion based on claimed support
for Al-Queda and that it would only cost $50B (there was going to be
that much in shrink wrapped $100s). later they switch the
justification to WMDs. The decommissioned WMDs tracing back to the US
were found early in the invasion, but the information was classified
until the fall of 2014 (4yrs after Card's cousin book was published).
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html
WMDs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#wmds
military-industrial(-congressional) complex
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
perpetual war (almost like old "star trek" episode)
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com/p/domestic-roots-of-perpetual-war.html
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_war
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
success of failure
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failuree
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: NPS, Gary A. Kildall Conference Room Dedication Ceremony, 21April2017 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:29:46 -0700NPS, Gary A. Kildall Conference Room Dedication Ceremony, 21April2017
before ms/dos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-DOS
there was seattle computer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Computer_Products
before seattle computer there was cp/m,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/M
before cp/m, kildall worked with cp67/cms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP-67
at npg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Postgraduate_School
some of the ctss people went to the 5th flr to do multics and others
went to the ibm science center on the 4th flr and did cp40/cms,
cp67/cms, invented gml, lots of interactive and performance work
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatible_Time-Sharing_System
science center, 545 tech sq
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
past refs mentioning Kildall:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#52 Kildall "flying" (was Re: First OS?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#53 Kildall "flying" (was Re: First OS?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#60 monterey's place in computing was: Kildall "flying" (was Re: First OS?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#38 [REALLY OT!] Overuse of symbolic constants
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004h.html#40 Which Monitor Would You Pick??????
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005c.html#55 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#48 Early microcomputer (esp i8008) software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#29 PDP-1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#41 Is computer history taugh now?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#32 Gone but not forgotten: 10 operating systems the world left behind
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#78 Gone but not forgotten: 10 operating systems the world left behind
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#8 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#4 Rare Apple I computer sells for $216,000 in London
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#22 MS-DOS is 30 years old today
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#31 The Most Expensive One-Byte Mistake
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#67 Wondering if I am really eligible for this group
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#72 CRLF in Unix being translated on Mainframe to x'25'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#89 Innovation and iconoclasm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#96 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#100 The PC industry is heading for collapse
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#6 Cloud apps placed well in the economic cycle
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#24 Original Thinking Is Hard, Where Good Ideas Come From
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#15 Happy Webiversary!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#41 Hi, Does any one knows the true origin of the usage of the word bug in computers to design a fault?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#65 The old is new again - Not IBM related, but I hope interesting
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#36 Should IBM allow the use of Hercules as z system emulator?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#59 Operating System, what is it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#95 Can anybody give me a clear idea about Cloud Computing in MAINFRAME ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#58 Altair Star Trek in assembly?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#98 Gordon Crovitz: Who Really Invented the Internet?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#84 Did Bill Gates Steal the Heart of DOS?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#94 Did Bill Gates Steal the Heart of DOS?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#9 "execs" or "scripts"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#39 PC/mainframe browser(s) was Re: 360/20, was 1132 printer history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#7 Why former IBMers who left maybe years ago for any reason are still active on the Greater IBM Connection?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#22 What is a Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#23 HCF
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#28 Some interesting post about the importance of Security and what it means for the Mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#51 Article for the boss: COBOL will outlive us all
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#0 What in your opinion is the one defining IBM product?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#51 Search for first Web page takes detour into US
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#9 IBM commitment to academia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#3 A Brief History of Cloud Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#69 PDCA vs. OODA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#74 z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#90 Enterprise Cobol 5.1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#103 Microsoft publishes MS-DOS, Word for Windows source code
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#95 Is end of mainframe near ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#71 No Internet. No Microsoft Windows. No iPods. This Is What Tech Was Like In 1984
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#60 The Road Not Taken: Knowing When to Keep Your Mouth Shut
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#30 The joy of simplicity?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#39 Virtual Memory Management
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#52 The Stack Depth
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#90 Your earliest dream?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#8 New Line vs. Line Feed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#5 Some Trivia: Happy Birthday IBM PC - You're 34 Today!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#13 Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#17 IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#28 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#33 The Network Nation, Revised Edition
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#54 PL/I advertising
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#103 Multithreaded output to stderr and stdout
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#67 Was Microsoft built on stolen goods?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#33 OODA-loop and virtual machines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#4 OODA in IT Security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#12 Rolander, Tom oral history (DRI, CPM, etc)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#81 GREAT presentation on the history of the mainframe
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: TSS/8, was A Whirlwind History of the Computer Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 14:41:01 -0700Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> writes:
The univ. had 768kbyte 360/67 ... and the IBM SE and I ran benchmark comparison early in 1968 .... synthetic benchmark, edit (with simulated wait times), fortran compile and execute. He ran tss/360 with four simulated users ... and I ran cp67/cms with 35 simulated users (even before I had made many performance enhancements) ... and the cp67/cms benchmark had better aggregate throughput and better interactive response (with 35 users) than tss/360 had (w/4 users).
Later TSS/360 was claiming that they did multiprocessor scale-up better than anybody ... a 2mbyte, 2proc, 360/67 getting 3.8 times the throughput of a 1mbyte, 1proc, 360/67. The real issue was that tss/360 kernel was such a memory hog ... that it was still extremely constrained in one mbyte of real memory. The "3.8" times factor was because in the SMP 2mbyte memory configuration it only had single copy of the tss/360 kernel (which still had hard time effectively running in 1mbyte memory) ... one of those cases where one is tempted to say "statistics lie".
the other issue vis-a-vis cp67/cms ... was tss/360 was page mapped
filesystem ... and lots of stuff would be synchronous page faulting
4kbytes at a time .... which also plays a factor in the later future
system effort that derived a lot of its single-level store page mapped
from tss/360 ... past posts mentioning future system
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
CMS file i/o could do large multi-block transfers (if contiguous, but didn't have explicit contiguous allocation) ... loading fresh filesystem from backup tape would tend to have some contiguous allocation, but could get fragmented over time.
In the early 70s at the science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
I did page mapped filesystem for cp67/cms ... but claimed I had learned
what not to do from tss/360 ... (if available) contiguous allocation,
read-ahead, write-behind, asynchronous operation, multi-block transfers
etc. I could relatively easily show 3-4 times throughput of moderately
filesystem active benchmarks, some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#mmap
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: TSS/8, was A Whirlwind History of the Computer Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 14:53:48 -0700Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
later, by the summer 1968, I was doing a lot of pathlength mostly
targeted at improving os/360 throughput in cp67 virtual machine. Part of
old IBM user group SHARE presentation ...
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#18
CP/67 cpu cycles for running os/360 mft reduced from 534secs to 113secs.
Later I did pathlength improvements specifically for multi-user CMS, ordered seek queueing (helps concurrent cms file i/o as well as disk paging), 2301 fixed-head drum paging, multi-record rotational ordering (improved peak 2301 from 80/sec to 270/sec),
... and page replacement algorithm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#clock
also dynamic adaptive resource management, scheduling, and dispatching
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#fairshare
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: TSS/8, was A Whirlwind History of the Computer Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:56:17 -0700Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
360, 370, etc ... channel programs ran with real addresses. virtual machine trapped the I/O instructions ... then had to copy the virtual machine channel program substituting real addresses for the virtual addresses.
this is past post about the decision to move all systems/machines from
real to virtual memory .... typical (real memory) 370/165 1mbyte MVT
only could configure four regions .... MVT storage management was so
bad, region sizes typically had to be four times larger than needed.
Moving MVT to virtual memory VS2/SVS could increase number of regions by
factor of four times ... with little or no paging.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#73 Multiple Virtual Memory
almost as if MVT was running in 16mbyte virtual machine.
Initial work just had to build single 16mbyte virtual tables and little bit of work to handle page fault. The big problem was that standard OS/360 convention is that channel programs are built by application library software and then does SVC0/EXCP to the kernel to execute the channel program. Moving to 16mbyte virtual memoy ... the os/360 convention now has application channel programs with virtual addresses (not real) .... so operating system has to create copy of the channel programs, substituting real addresses for virtual (same problem faced by virtual machine). Initial implementation for VS2/SVS "borrowed" CCWTRANS (from CP/67).
at the bottom of this was that as processors got faster, faster than disks got faster ... so to maintain system throughput (proportionally to increase in processor speed) ... needed increased levels of multiprogramming, more concurrent execution (which needed increased number of regions).
I've mentioned before about periodically pointing out that processors
were increasing faster, than disks were increasing faster. In the
early 80s, claimed that relative system disk throughput had declined
by a factor of tens times since 60s (360/67) and early 80s (3081). old
post with comparison:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/93.html#31
disk executive took exception and assigned the disk division performance group to refute my statements. After a couple weeks, they came back and basically said that I had understated the problem. They then respun the analysis for IBM user group SHARE presentation (B874) on disk optimizing for improved throughput.
recent posts reference account of justification for moving all 370 to
virtual memory:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#90 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#8 BSAM vs QSAM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#80 Great mainframe history(?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#81 GREAT presentation on the history of the mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#50 Univ. 709
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#61 Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#76 Mainframe operating systems?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#83 Mainframe operating systems?
past posts mentioning B874
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#18 AS/400 and MVS - clarification please
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#46 AS/400 and MVS - clarification please
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#3 using 3390 mod-9s
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#68 DASD Response Time (on antique 3390?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#5 Poster of computer hardware events?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#71 308x Processors - was "Mainframe articles"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#7 My Vintage Dream PC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#34 A Complete History Of Mainframe Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#52 Hercules; more information requested
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#67 ACP, One of the Oldest Open Source Apps
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#1 "The Naked Mainframe" (Forbes Security Article)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#70 25 reasons why hardware is still hot at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#31 Wax ON Wax OFF -- Tuning VSAM considerations
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#32 OS idling
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#33 History of Hard-coded Offsets
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#18 Mainframe Slang terms
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#35 CKD DASD
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#61 Speed of Old Hard Disks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#1 Multiple Virtual Memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#5 Why are organizations sticking with mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#32 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#73 Tape vs DASD - Speed/time/CPU utilization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#39 A bit of IBM System 360 nostalgia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#62 ISO documentation of IBM 3375, 3380 and 3390 track format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#72 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made 30 years agotoday
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#90 What's the difference between doing performance in a mainframe environment versus doing in others
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#87 Death of spinning disk?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#0 Miniskirts and mainframes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#110 Is there a source for detailed, instruction-level performance info?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#12 You count as an old-timer if (was Re: Origin of the phrase "XYZZY")
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#21 What was a 3314?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#68 Raspberry Pi 3?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#38 How the internet was invented
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#40 Floating point registers or general purpose registers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#43 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#45 Resurrected! Paul Allen's tech team brings 50-year-old supercomputer back from the dead
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#32 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#70 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#61 Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Panama Papers law firm boss sees tax shelter boom in US Date: 25 Apr 2017 Blog: FacebookPanama Papers law firm boss sees tax shelter boom in US
The Panama Papers
https://panamapapers.icij.org/
tax evasion, tax avoidance, tax havens
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Arthur Laffer's Theory on Tax Cuts Comes to Life Once More Date: 25 Apr 2017 Blog: FacebookArthur Laffer's Theory on Tax Cuts Comes to Life Once More
2002, congress lets the fiscal responsibility act lapse (spending can't exceed tax revenue, on its way to eliminating all federal debt). 2010, CBO report was that 2003-2009, tax revenue cut by $6T and spending increased by $6T, for $12T budget gap compared to fiscal responsible budget (first time taxes were cut to not pay for two wars). Since then only modest spending cuts, but not restored taxes so debt continues to increased.
fiscal responsibility act
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act
regulatory capture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#regulatory.capture
Spring 2009, IRS announces its is going after 52,000 wealthy Americans that owe $400B on money (illegally) hidden overseas. Spring 2011, Speaker of House announces that congress is cutting the budget for department responsible for recovering that money. Since then there was been references to a few billion in fines on the too big to fail that facilitated the tax evasion, but little on the $400B.
tax evasion, tax avoidance, tax havens
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion
too big to fail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
Milton Friedman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Friedman
Friedman promoted an alternative macroeconomic viewpoint known as
"monetarism", and argued that a steady, small expansion of the money
supply was the preferred policy.[12] His ideas concerning monetary
policy, taxation, privatization and deregulation influenced government
policies, especially during the 1980s.
... snip ...
Milton Friedman's Cherished Theory Is Laid to Rest
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-01-12/milton-friedman-s-cherished-theory-is-laid-to-rest
Even now, when economic models have become far more complex than
anything in Friedman's time, economists still go back to Friedman's
theory as a mental touchstone -- a fundamental intuition that guides
the way they make their models. My first macroeconomics professor
believed in it deeply and instinctively, and would even bring it up in
department seminars.
... snip ...
Economists and the Powerful: Convenient Theories, Distorted Facts, Ample Rewards
https://www.amazon.com/Economists-Powerful-Convenient-Distorted-Economics-ebook/dp/B01B4X4KOS/
"The Undoing Project" goes into some detail how Kahneman and Tversky
disproved economists' assumption that people make rational decisions
... loc1155-59:
He had listened to an American economist talk about how so-and-so was
stupid and so-and-so was a fool, then said, "All your economic models
are premised on people being smart and rational, and yet all the
people you know are idiots."
Kahneman (a psychologist) gets Nobel prize in economics, in part for
debunking some cherished economic theories
recent Friedman, Kahneman, and/or "Undoing Project"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#14 Japanese company replaces office workers with artificial intelligence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#17 Destruction of the Middle Class
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#24 Destruction of the Middle Class
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#26 Milton Friedman's Cherished Theory Is Laid to Rest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#29 Milton Friedman's Cherished Theory Is Laid to Rest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#31 Milton Friedman's Cherished Theory Is Laid to Rest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#34 If economists want to be trusted again, they should learn to tell jokes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#66 Deep learning algorithm does as well as dermatologists in identifying skin cancer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#92 Trump's Rollback of the Neoliberal Market State
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#93 The Undoing Project: A Friendship That Changed Our Minds Kindle Edition
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#97 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#101 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#102 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#104 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#11 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#16 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#17 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#24 Disorder
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#25 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#26 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#43 when to get out???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#0 Locking our own orientation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#65 Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#67 Economists are arguing over how their profession messed up during the Great Recession. This is what happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#77 Trump delay of the 'fiduciary rule' will cost retirement savers $3.7 billion
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#89 Understanding decisions: The power of combining psychology and economics
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#93 United Air Lines - an OODA-loop perspective
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#96 Cognitive Bias Codex, 2016
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Ironic old "fortune" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 10:34:38 -0700JimP. <solosam90@gmail.com> writes:
rather than fixing virus/trojans ... look for "signatures" (and
delete/quarantine them) ... originally few signatures and relative low
rate of new signatures ... currently over six million with high
rate of new/changed signatures
https://us.norton.com/security_response/definitions.jsp
i periodically mention 1996 moscone MDC where all the banners said "Internet" ... but constant refrain in all the sessions "was preserve you investment" ... i.e. from small, closed, safe, business LANs with automagically executed scripting embedded in datafiles. It was enabling the facility for the wild anarchy of the internet w/o any additional countermeasures ... sort of like launching people into vacuum of space only wearing their everyday clothes for the earth surface.
recent posts mentioning 1996 moscone mdc:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#87 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#35 The real story of how the Internet became so vulnerable
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#90 These hackers warned the Internet would become a security disaster. Nobody listened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#35 [Poll] Computing favorities
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#39 [Poll] Computing favorities
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#106 Computers anyone?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#69 Open DoD's Doors To Cyber Talent, Carter Asks Congress
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#79 Is it a lost cause?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#19 Is it a lost cause?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#38 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#92 Old hardware
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Terminology - Datasets Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 26 Apr 2017 11:32:52 -0700Jesse1.Robinson@SCE.COM (Jesse 1 Robinson) writes:
It was rejected ... and then three months later implemented (so even tho
it was implemented, there was no award). Periodically there is reference
that business ethics is an oxymoron. a couple old posts on the
subject:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#88
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#42
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: WD ships 'world's largest' 12TB HGST Ultrastar He12 Helium 7200 RPM Enterprise HDDs Date: 26 Apr 2017 Blog: FacebookWD ships 'world's largest' 12TB HGST Ultrastar He12 Helium 7200 RPM Enterprise HDDs
recent post in ibm-main mailing list on 1980s disk "density"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#54
remember HGST use to be IBM San Jose (disk division) plant site
https://www.hgst.com/
late 80s, a senior disk engineer got a talk scheduled at internal annual world-wide communication group conference supposedly on 3174 performance ... but opened the talk with the statement that the communication group was going to be responsible for the demise of the disk division. The issue was that the communication group had strategic responsibility for everything that crossed the datacenter walls and were fiercely fighting off client/server and distributed computing, trying to preserve their (emulated) dumb terminal paradigm and install base. The disk division was seeing data fleeing the data center to more distributed computing friendly platforms with drop in disk sales. The disk division had come up with several solutions to address the problem but they were constantly being vetoed by the communication group.
posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal
gerstner posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
a few short years later, IBM has gone into the red and was being reorg'ed into 13 "baby blues" in preparation for breaking up the company.
Seagate launches a monstrous 60TB SSD
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/233358-seagate-unveils-the-worlds-largest-ssd-60tb
And now there are PCIe based disks ... getting closer to memory speed
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11208/intel-introduces-optane-ssd-dc-p4800x-with-3d-xpoint-memory
500K IOPS (4K random) for a single board. I suspect that will get
better as the IO stack is optimized for low latency storage.
... snip ...
parent article, has bunch of other
http://www.anandtech.com/tag/pcie-ssd
for comparison, mainframe "peak I/O" benchmark (latest I can find) is
z196 getting 2M IOPS using 104 FICON. About the same time, there was a
fibre channel announced for e5-2600 blade claiming over million IOPS
aka FICON is heavy-weight mainframe protocol running over fibre
channel that drastically cuts the native throughput. post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: The Geniuses that Anticipated the Idea of the Internet Date: 27 Apr 2017 Blog: FacebookThe Geniuses that Anticipated the Idea of the Internet
Some of the (MIT) CTSS people went to 5th flr (tech sq, across from
MIT campus) to do Multics and others went to the science center on the
4th flr and did virtual machines, lots of other online stuff, internal
network, and invented "GML" in 1969. some science center posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
A decade after GML was invented in 1969, it morphs into ISO standard
SGML, after another decade, it morphs into HTML at CERN. some past GML
posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#sgml
The internal network was larger than the arpanet/internet from just
about the beginning until sometime mid-80s. At the time the
arpanet/internet great change-over to internetworking protocol on
1Jan1983, there were approx. 100 IMP network nodes (and 255 connected
host computers), at a time when the internal network was rapidly
approaching 1000 nodes.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
Co-worker at the science center was responsible for the internal
network ... reference here ... also has account of visiting Cerf in
the mid-70s to talk about internetworking protocol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks
and some more here:
https://www.amazon.com/Its-Cool-Be-Clever-Hendricks/dp/1897435630
Note: one of the issues moving from NCP/IMP to TCP/IP was how to
handle out-of-band control signals (NCP/IMP had separate data &
control flows, while TCP/IP didn't, discussed in internet RFC721).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/internet.htm
In the early 80s we are working with director of NSF to interconnect
the NSF supercomputer centers. We were suppose to get $20M, then
congress cuts the budget, some number of other things happen and
eventually an RFP is released (in part based on what we already had
running). Internal politics prevent us from bidding and NSF director
attempts to help by writing the corporation a letter (with support
from other gov. agencies), but that just made the internal politics
worse (as did references that what we already had running was at least
5yrs ahead of all RFP responses). As regional networks connect into
the centers, it evolves into the NSFNET backbone, precursor to the
modern internet.
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/401444/grid-computing/
some NSFNET posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet
The corporate sponsored univ. network (based on the internal network
technology from the science center) for a time was also larger than
the arpanet/internet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BITNET
and BITNET posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet
trivia: the first "webserver" outside europe is on the SLAC virtual
machine system (originally from the science center):
https://ahro.slac.stanford.edu/wwwslac-exhibit
and
https://ahro.slac.stanford.edu/wwwslac-exhibit/early-web-chronology-and-documents-1991-1994
In the late 80s, I'm working with national labs on
scientific/technical cluster scale-up and with RDBMS vendors on
commercial cluster scale-up ... some old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa
and reference to Jan1992 meeting in Ellison's conference room
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13
HA/CMP posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp
by Feb. 1992, cluster scale-up has been transferred, announced as supercomputer for scientific/technical *ONLY*, and we are told we can't work on anything with more than four processors. We then decide to leave a few months later. It turns out that some of the Oracle people have also left and show up at a small client/server startup responsible for something called "commerce server". We are brought in as consultants because they want to do payment transactions on the server, the startup had also invented this technology called "SSL" they want to use; the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce". I have absolute authority over the servers to internet gateway to the payment networks, but can only make recommendations for the client/server side; some of which are almost immediately violated accounting for some number of exploits and vulnerabilities that continue to this day.
For the webserver to payment network gateway I have to do software and
documentation compensating procedures to bring it up to "industrial
strength" dataprocessing (types of stuff sometimes done behind the
scenes by large ISPs today). Until he passes, the internet standards
editor also use to let me help with the periodic STD1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Postel
In the mid-90s, Postel also had me do a talk on "Why the internet isn't business critical dataprocessing" (based on compensating procedures for "electronic commerce") for people at ISI and USC computer security graduate students.
As an aside, in the late 80s and early 90s, (some parts of) Federal Government was mandating the elimination of TCP/IP and replacing with OSI ("GOSIP").
trivia: old post that includes a list of corporate sites around the
world that added one or more network nodes during 1983
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#8
other recent posts mentioning Edson:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#101 Internal Network, NSFNET, Internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#8 What Does School Really Teach Children
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#31 How the internet was invented
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#53 E.R. Burroughs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#108 Some (IBM-related) History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#124 Early Networking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#126 Five myths about the Web
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#13 Bullying
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#6 INTERNET
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#5 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#43 Formed by Megafloods, This Place Fooled Scientists for Decades
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#62 Most people are secretly threatened by creativity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#62 People don't actually like creativity
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: SS Trust Fund Date: 27 Apr 2017 Blog: FacebookSS Trust Fund
Reagan's budget director in the 80s takes credit for: 1) accelerating SS contribution increases (for handling future baby boomer retirements and living longer) ... so that the money could be "borrowed" (from the SS Trust fund) for military spending ... and 2) change to taxing SS benefits, SS contributions are originally payed from taxed income, but after the 80s change, then the benefits are taxed again ... increasing money available for military spending.
Baby boomers are four times as many as the previous generation, so during the baby boomer peak earning years, they were making more contributions into the SS Trust Fund than were being paid out in benefits each year, building up principle for baby boomer retirement (which was then being "borrowed" for spending on other items). The following generation is half the size of the baby boomer generation, so as baby boomers retire, the situation inverts (less contributions each year than benefits payed out). The following generation is now faced with being taxed for 1) paying back the borrowed baby boomer benefits and 2) make up what the borrowed baby boomer contributions were previously being spent for.
In 2002, congress lets the fiscal responsibility act lapse (spending
can't exceed tax revenue, on its way to eliminating all federal debt,
aka "paygo"). 2010 CBO report was that 2003-2009, tax revenue cut by
$6T and spending increased by $6T for $12T gap compared to fiscal
responsible budget (first time taxes cut to not pay for two
wars). Since then taxes not restored and modest spending cuts so debt
continues to increase. Sort of confluence of 1) Federal Reserve and
wallstreet wanted huge federal debt, 2) wallstreet and special
interests wanted huge tax cut, 3) military-industrial complex wanted
huge spending increase.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act
regulatory capture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#regulatory.capture
If somebody quotes current national debt as around $20T, then it includes the amount "borrowed" from the SS Trust Fund, when somebody quotes national debt as around $17T ... then it appears that they are assuming that the amount looted from the SS Trust Fund doesn't have to be repaid (sometimes same people might use both values at different times, depending on how they are spinning the national debt).
Part of Stockman's change to make benefits taxable was eliminating association (aka "account") between the contributions and the benefits. Stockman needed to tax the SS benefits, if the benefits came out of your contribution "account", you have already paid taxes on the contribution (and couldn't tax them again when benefits were paid out of your contribution account). Stockman had to eliminate direct association (account) between the (already taxed) contributions and the benefits ... in order to tax them again
other recent posts mentioning SS Trust Fund
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#5 The Champions of the 401(k) Lament the Revolution They Started
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#11 Attack SS Entitlements
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#30 $16T National Debt
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#42 Peak Savings: Wall Street Faces 20 Years Of Retirement Withdrawals As Boomers Hit 70 1/2
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#43 when to get out???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#67 Economists are arguing over how their profession messed up during the Great Recession. This is what happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#77 Trump delay of the 'fiduciary rule' will cost retirement savers $3.7 billion
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: The Geniuses that Anticipated the Idea of the Internet Date: 28 Apr 2017 Blog: Facebookre:
Government Open Systems Interconnection Profile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_Open_Systems_Interconnection_Profile
1990 - The US specification requiring Open Systems Interconnection
(OSI) protocols was first published as Federal Information Processing
Standards document FIPS 146-1. The requirement for US Government
vendors to demonstrate their support for this profile led them to join
the formal interoperability and conformance testing for networking
products, which had been done by industry professionals at the annual
InterOp show since 1980.
... snip ...
.... note at Interop '88, there were lots of booths with OSI products. I had (IBM) unix workstation doing TCP/IP in (non-IBM) booth. Trivia, early Monday morning (before show starts) the floor nets were still crashing with broadcast storms ... before they finally isolate the problem. Solution then is mandated in RFC1122.
trivia: late 80s, I was on XTP technical advisery board and there was
attempt to take XTP to ansi x3s3.3 (ISO chartered US standard
committee for OSI level 3&4, network&transport) for
standardization as HSP (high-speed protocol). It turns out that ISO
had policy that no standardization for protocols that violate
OSI. XTP/HSP was rejected because it violated OSI:
1) it supported internetworking, a non-existent layer in OSI sitting
between layer 3&4.
2) it supported LAN MAC interface, a non-existent interface in OSI
sitting approx. in middile of layer 3
3) it went directly from layer 4 to LAN/MAC ... bypassing layer 3/4
interface.
From internet perspective, IETF requires at least two interoperable
internet implementations before standards progress while ISO standards
don't even have to demonstrate that they are implementable.
some xtp/hsp posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#xtphsp
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: The Geniuses that Anticipated the Idea of the Internet Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 11:03:10 -0700The Geniuses that Anticipated the Idea of the Internet
Some of the (MIT) CTSS people went to 5th flr (tech sq, across from MIT
campus) to do Multics and others went to the science center on the 4th
flr
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatible_Time-Sharing_System
and did virtual machines, lots of other online stuff, internal network,
and invented "GML" in 1969.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
A decade after GML was invented in 1969, it morphs into ISO standard
SGML, after another decade, it morphs into HTML at CERN.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#sgml
The internal network was larger than the arpanet/internet from just
about the beginning until sometime mid-80s. At the time the
arpanet/internet great change-over to internetworking protocol on
1Jan1983, there were approx. 100 IMP network nodes (and 255 connected
host computers), at a time when the internal network was rapidly
approaching 1000 nodes.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
Co-worker at the science center was responsible for the internal network
... reference here ... also has account of visiting Cerf in the mid-70s
to talk about internetworking protocol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks
and some more here:
https://www.amazon.com/Its-Cool-Be-Clever-Hendricks/dp/1897435630
Note: one of the issues moving from NCP/IMP to TCP/IP was how to handle out-of-band control signals (NCP/IMP had separate data & control flows, while TCP/IP didn't, discussed in internet RFC721).
In the early 80s we are working with director of NSF to interconnect the
NSF supercomputer centers. We were suppose to get $20M, then congress
cuts the budget, some number of other things happen and eventually an
RFP is released (in part based on what we already had running). Internal
politics prevent us from bidding and NSF director attempts to help by
writing the corporation a letter (with support from other
gov. agencies), but that just made the internal politics worse (as did
references that what we already had running was at least 5yrs ahead of
all RFP responses). As regional networks connect into the centers, it
evolves into the NSFNET backbone, precursor to the modern internet. MIT
technical review article
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/401444/grid-computing/
some old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet
and posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet
The corporate sponsored univ. network (based on the internal network
technology from the science center) for a time was also larger than the
arpanet/internet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BITNET
some old posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet
trivia: the first "webserver" outside europe is on the SLAC virtual
machine system (originally from the science center):
https://ahro.slac.stanford.edu/wwwslac-exhibit
and
https://ahro.slac.stanford.edu/wwwslac-exhibit/early-web-chronology-and-documents-1991-1994
In the late 80s, I'm working with national labs on scientific/technical
cluster scale-up and with RDBMS vendors on commercial cluster scale-up
... some old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa
and reference to Jan1992 meeting in Ellison's conference room
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13
some posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp
by Feb. 1992, cluster scale-up has been transferred, announced as supercomputer for scientific/technical *ONLY*, and we are told we can't work on anything with more than four processors. We then decide to leave a few months later. It turns out that some of the Oracle people have also left and show up at a small client/server startup responsible for something called "commerce server". We are brought in as consultants because they want to do payment transactions on the server, the startup had also invented this technology called "SSL" they want to use; the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce". I have absolute authority over the servers to internet gateway to the payment networks, but can only make recommendations for the client/server side; some of which are almost immediately violated accounting for some number of exploits and vulnerabilities that continue to this day.
For the webserver to payment network gateway I have to do software and
documentation compensating procedures to bring it up to "industrial
strength" dataprocessing (types of stuff sometimes done behind the
scenes by large ISPs today). Until he passes, the internet standards
editor also use to let me help with the periodic STD1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Postel
In the mid-90s, Postel also had me do a talk on "Why the internet isn't
business critical dataprocessing" (based on compensating procedures for
"electronic commerce") for people at ISI and USC computer security
graduate students. related patent portfolio
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadssummary.htm
trivia: old post that includes a list of corporate sites around the
world that added one or more network nodes during 1983
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#8
some internet posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internet
As an aside, in the late 80s and early 90s, (some parts of) Federal
Government was mandating the elimination of TCP/IP and replacing with
OSI ("GOSIP"). Government Open Systems Interconnection Profile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_Open_Systems_Interconnection_Profile
1990 - The US specification requiring Open Systems Interconnection (OSI)
protocols was first published as Federal Information Processing
Standards document FIPS 146-1. The requirement for US Government vendors
to demonstrate their support for this profile led them to join the
formal interoperability and conformance testing for networking products,
which had been done by industry professionals at the annual InterOp show
since 1980.
... snip ...
.... note at Interop '88, there were lots of booths with OSI products. I
had (IBM) unix workstation doing TCP/IP in (non-IBM) booth. Trivia,
early Monday morning (before show starts) the floor nets were still
crashing with broadcast storms ... before they finally isolate the
problem. Solution then is mandated in RFC1122. some old posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#interop88
trivia: late 80s, I was on XTP technical advisery board and there was
attempt to take XTP to ansi x3s3.3 (ISO chartered US standard committee
for OSI level 3&4, network&transport) for standardization as HSP
(high-speed protocol). It turns out that ISO had policy that no
standardization for protocols that violate OSI. XTP/HSP was rejected
because it violated OSI:
1) it supported internetworking, a non-existent layer in OSI sitting
between layer 3&4.
2) it supported LAN MAC interface, a non-existent interface in OSI
sitting approx. in middile of layer 3
3) it went directly from layer 4 to LAN/MAC ... bypassing layer 3/4
interface.
From internet perspective, IETF requires at least two interoperable
internet implementations before standards progress while ISO standards
don't even have to demonstrate that they are implementable.
some xtp/hsp posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#xtphsp
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The Geniuses that Anticipated the Idea of the Internet Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:09:03 -0700hancock4 writes:
lots of operations were starting to provide value added networks in the
60s & 70s .... this old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/internet.htm#email821022
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/98.html#email821022
mentions csnet connections via arpanet, telenet (GTE), and "phonenet"
tymshare
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymshare
was providing its cms-based online computer conferencing for free
to IBM user group SHARE as VMSHARE starting in aug1976 ... archives here
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare
sometimes(?) "404" ... but also at wayback machine
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/
and had its own network with local dialup in many markets
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymnet
http://cap-lore.com/Tymnet/ETH.html
however, internet started to replace lots of the private value added networks and they started to atrophy. By mid-90s WU wasn't doing well. First Financial and FDC (1992 spin off by AMEX in the largest IPO up until that time) were in competition to take-over (poorly) WU ... and FDC drops out. Later FDC and First Financial merge (and FDC has to spin-off MoneyGram as part of the merger). However, after the start of the century, WU business starts to explode (with illegal workers sending paychecks home) and by 2005, WU is half of FDC's bottom line. FDC then spins off WU (possibly contributing is the president of Mexico had invited FDC executives to Mexico to be thrown in jail for how much money WU was making off Mexican workers).
Some of the excuses for OSI not including internetworking layer was that it was heavily dominated by proprietary service providers ... which had blind spot (for one reason or another) about the need for internetworking (everybody would be locked into specific commercial service provider).
triva: june 17th of 1995 ... the largest online service provider
started having some its internet facing servers crash. for the next
two months they had everybody they could think of come in to look at
it ... but they continued to crash. so aug. 17, somebody flew out to
west coast and bought me a hamburger after work and while i ate it
... explained the symptoms. i then gave him a q&d work around
patch that was applied later that night. afterwards i made the rounds
of the usual vendors that sell stuff that involves tcp/ip and/or
connecting to the internet ... suggesting that maybe they do something
to address the problem; nobody was interested. almost exactly a year
later a similar symptom hit a service provider in manhatten which made
the press ... and now you saw the usual players telling the press
about how fast they were addressing the problem. some past refs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005c.html#51 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006e.html#11 Caller ID "spoofing"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008l.html#21 recent mentions of 40+ yr old technology
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#35 Builders V. Breakers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#11 Top 10 Cybersecurity Threats for 2009, will they cause creation of highly-secure Corporate-wide ntranets?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#60 Core characteristics of resilience
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#14 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#104 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#25 The real story of how the Internet became so vulnerable
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#79 Is it a lost cause?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 19:20:12 -0700Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
I did analysis of 360&370 assembler code failures ... part of assembler was programmer had to manage register contents and failures was register contents weren't correct .... especially with complex execution paths where some path didn't include loading correct register contents.
compiler eliminated having to manage register contents and the associated bugs
I've frequently pontificated that somewhat similar problem is with
C-language where programmer has to manage buffer lengths ... and
human mistakes result in buffer length mistakes ... past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#buffer
common in both assembler and C (and some other languages) is dynamic buffer use after release (with "dangling" pointers). One of the claims for JAVA (and some other languages) is the elimination of programmer mistakes associated with management of allocation and deallocation buffers.
Early in the days of REX (before rename to REXX and release to customers), I wanted to demonstrate that rex wasn't just another pretty scripting language ... object was to redo (in REX) IBM's IPCS (large IBM assembler problem determination/analysis program) in less than 3months working half time with tens times more function and running ten times faster (a little bit of slight of hand making interpreted rex run faster than assembler).
I finished early so started doing library of automated checking for
failure signatures. some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dumprx
I thot that IBM would release it in lieu of the existing IPCS ... but never happened (even tho it was in use by nearly every internal datacenter and customer support PSR). Finally I got approval to give presentations at user group meetings about how I did the implementation ... and within a few months, similar implementations started to appear.
The closest it came to release was the 3090 service processor (3092)
people. It started out as 4331 running modified version of vm370
release 6 ... and the service processor menus were implemented in CMS
IOS3270 (upgraded to pair of 4361s). some old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#email861031
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#email861223
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 21:35:37 -0700Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> writes:
then maybe mitre, nist, darpa, sans, UC davis, Oregon Graduate Institute, and more
old post about analysing all the CVE entries in 2004 ... I had talked to
Mitre about getting people to fill in better descriptions, but at the
time, Mitre said that they were lucky to even get people do that much
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#43 security taxonomy and CVE
and some more
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004j.html#58 Vintage computers are better than modern crap !
post following year
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005b.html#20 Buffer overruns
linux magazine feb. 2005, pg38 article on understanding buffer
overflow ... nist reporting similar numbers that I had found:
According to NIST in the past 4 years, 871 buffer overflow
vulnerabilities were exploited, commprising about 20 percent of all
exploits
... snip ...
Original mainframe TCP/IP product had been implemented in VS/Pascal ... that had *none* of the buffer related problems that became epidemic in C-language implementations.
post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#8 Security flaws in software development
from above, 2002 article:
Study says buffer overflow is most common security bug; The computer
vulnerability of the decade may not be the Y2K bug, but a security
weakness known as the buffer overflow.
https://www.cnet.com/news/study-says-buffer-overflow-is-most-common-security-bug/
" Buffer overflows have been the most common form of security
vulnerability for the past 10 years," according to a new paper published
by the Oregon Graduate Institute of Science & Technology (OGI) and
funded in part by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency
(DARPA). "Because these kinds of attacks enable anyone to take total
control of a host, they represent one of the most serious classes of
security threats."
... snip ...
from 90s (& 2002 article referencing *buffer overflows* have been the most common form for the previous ten years) to the 2005 NIST reference ... the buffer overflows didn't really decline, it was other forms increased
(2002) Buffer Overflows for Dummies
https://www.sans.org/reading-room/whitepapers/threats/buffer-overflows-dummies-481
SCADA Security Hole
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/05/scada_security.html
"These backend protocols are often based upon standards that
pre-date Windows," Graham wrote in his blog. "They are horribly
insecure because few people in the SCADA industry know what a
'buffer-overflow' is."
Watch the FUD please as all SCADA system software developers know what
a "buffer-overflow" is as do almost all SCADA support personnel. SCADA
system operators and their managers may not know but why should they?
It's our job, SCADA support, to protect them from things of this
nature.
.... snip ...
more recent buffer overflow exploits
http://www.pl-enthusiast.net/2016/02/01/software-security-ideas-ahead-of-their-time/
(NIST Nov2016) Defeating Buffer Overflow: One of the Most Trivial and
Dangerous Bugs of All!
https://www.nist.gov/publications/defeating-buffer-overflow-one-most-trivial-and-dangerous-bugs-all
The C programming language was invented over 40 years ago. It is
infamous for buffer overflows. We have learned a lot about
computer science, language design, and software engineering since
then. As it is unlikely that we will stop using C any time soon, we
present some ways to deal with buffer overflows. By the way,
many of these techniques are useful for other programing languages and
other classes of vulnerabilities.
... snip ...
buffer overflow posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#overflow
the original mainframe vs/pascal implementation did have some
performance issues getting 44kbytes/sec using 3090 processor. I then
did the enhancements to support RFC 1044 and in some tuning tests at
Cray Research between 4341 and Cray, got 4341 channel sustained
throughput using only modest amount of 4341 processor (possibly 500
times improvement in bytes moved per instruction executed).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#1044
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 09:40:29 -0700Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
recent mention overflow
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#17 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#16 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#65 Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#29 ARM Cortex A53 64 bit
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#28 ARM Cortex A53 64 bit
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#58 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#46 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#33 Trump to sign cyber security order
A common bug in nearly all types of implementations has been dynamic buffer management and serialization issues with use after free (as opposed to buffer length issues). One of the claims for languages like JAVA is elimination of most serialization issues and "use after free" (but that carries with it some performance penalty).
trivia: the person that had invented compare-and-swap (chosen
for CAS are his initials) at the science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
csc/vm (&/or sjr/vm) posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#cscvm
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp
had also restructured the CP67 serialization mechanism that resulted in elimination of most use-after-free as well as "zombie" users. however that is after the VM370 group had started (morph of cp67 to vm370 included dropping and/or greatly simplifying many things from CP67).
As part of my moving from cp67 to vm370 (and internal csc/vm
for internal datacenters)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email731212
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750102
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430
I rewrote the vm370 serialization mechanism similar to how it had been
redone in cp67. with implosion of Future System (I continued to work
on 360/370 stuff all thru FS and even periodically ridiculed their
efforts)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
contributed to picking up some amount of csc/vm for vm/370 release 3 ...
which included the serialization rewrite that eliminated all
use-after-free and zombie users. However, a few months later after
release, somebody mis-diagnosed a problem as serialization related and
generated a "fix" that re-introduced zombie/hung users (VM13025).
past refs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#61 VM13025 ... zombie/hung users
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#81 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#87 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#2 Other early NSFNET backbone
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#19 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#90 A History of VM Performance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#81 Multiple Virtual Memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#33 The real cost of outsourcing (and offshoring)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#25 Mainframe technology in 2011 and beyond; who is going to run these Mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#29 Congratulations, where was my invite?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#79 Slackware
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#27 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#59 Resurrected! Paul Allen's tech team brings 50-year -old supercomputer back from the dead
other parts of csc/vm was selected for release in my dynamic adaptive
resource manager
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#fairshare
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#clock
trivia: the shutting down of 370 programs during FS period is credited
with giving clone processor makers a market foothold. Now the 23june1969
unbundling announcement started charging for (application) software and
other stuff ... but they managed to make the case that kernel software
would still be free
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle
with the rise of the clone makers, the decision was made to start charging for kernel software ... initially incremental add-ons (until eventually all kernel was charged for) and my dynamic adaptive resource management was selected as initial guinea pig.
Eventually in the 80s, the transition was complete and charging for all kernel software was complete ... eliminating the transition period where there was base "free" kernel with various charged for addon options (then came the OCO-wars ... object code only).
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: MVT doesn't boot in 16mbytes Date: 28 Apr 2017 Blog: Facebookhappened much earlier (I thnk at Univ. Illinois?) when MVT was brought up in a CP67 16mbyte virtual machine (Univ Illinois did a lot of MVT patching for optimization under CP67).
I shot the opposite problem when customer brought up VM370 on (unsupported) 370/125. VM370 had implemented DMKCPI to use MVCL w/16mbyte to clear core and check machine size. 360 architecture had instructions prechecking valid start and end operand addresses before starting instruction. 370 introduced MVCL&CLCL which executed incrementally. 115&125 had MVCL&CLCL microcode "bug" which pretested start & end operand addresses before starting (instead executing incrementally). 125 MVCL exited w/o executing (because end exceed real machine size) ... so machine looked like it had zero real memory.
One of the first internal network uses was joint project between endicott and cambridge to implement virtual memory 370 virtual machine in CP67 (running on 360/67) i.e. with 370 virtual memory format tables (as opposed to 360/67 format virtual memory tables). Eventually this was up and running ("CP67H") production a year before the first engineering 370/145 with hardware virtual memory was operational. A modified version of CP67 then was done ("CP67I") that ran with 370 format tables (in 370 virtual machine). Endicott then asked for CP67I when they thought engineering 370/145 was ready to test. Original boot failed. A little diagnoses turned out that the engineers had reversed the implementation of two of the new 370 "B2" instructions. CP67I was quickly patched with the reversed opcodes ... and everything ran fine (they had to eventually fix the incorrect "B2" opcode implementation).
We then ran into real problem with 370/165 ... it turns out that retrofitting the full 370 virtual memory architecture to 165 ... was going to cause 6month slip in virtual memory announce and ship. They then forced through dropping a bunch of the 370 virtual memory architecture to gain back the six months. All the processors that had already implemented the full architecture had to go back and strip away the dropped features. Also all the software that was using the additional virtual memor features had to be redone to only use the 165 subset.
This is recent post about transition of MVT to OS/VS2 SVS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#5
It reference old request from customers about IBM decision to move all
370s to virtual memory. An IBM'er involved responded ... archived post
of his response to customer ibm mainframe mailing list
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#73
basically MVT storage management was so bad, customers typically had to size regions four times larger than nominally used. As a result MVT on typical 1mbyte 370/165 was limited to four regions. Moving MVT to 16mbyte virtual address space memory could get four times the number of regions on the same machine with little or no paging.
past posts mentioning cp67h & cp67i systems
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#0 HONE was .. Hercules and System/390 - do we need it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#31 determining memory size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004d.html#74 DASD Architecture of the future
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#50 IBM 3614 and 3624 ATM's
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005g.html#17 DOS/360: Forty years
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005j.html#50 virtual 360/67 support in cp67
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#38 Is VIO mandatory?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006e.html#7 About TLB in lower-level caches
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#5 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006l.html#21 Virtual Virtualizers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#19 Source maintenance was Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#1 Materiel and graft
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#45 Was FORTRAN buggy?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#49 Was FORTRAN buggy?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#3 IBM sues maker of Intel-based Mainframe clones
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#20 How many 36-bit Unix ports in the old days?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#16 when was MMU virtualization first considered practical?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#74 GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#23 GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#49 "Portable" data centers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#1 PDP-10s and Unix
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#3 "Portable" data centers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#17 old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#51 Source code for s/360
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#63 Source code for s/360 [PUBLIC]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#60 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#23 Item on TPF
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#31 Mainframe Executive article on the death of tape
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#69 Boeing Plant 2 ... End of an Era
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#72 IBM Future System
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#80 TSO Profile NUM and PACK
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#27 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#34 Data Areas?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#62 Any cool anecdotes IBM 40yrs of VM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#71 New HD
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#22 [OT ] Mainframe memories
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#57 Difference between MVS and z / OS systems
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#86 Computer/IBM Career
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#87 The ICL 2900
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: cultural stereotypes, was Ironic old "fortune" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:58:19 -0700Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
author active is some Boyd related groups ... "Command Culture"
highlights bullying/hazing in (US) military schools to beat out
non-conformity (enforce group-think, conformity and hierarchy).
https://www.amazon.com/Command-Culture-Education-1901-1940-Consequences/dp/B009K7VYLI/
one of the points was that Marshall (later Chief of Staff during ww2) was so badly injured in one such incident, he almost had to drop out.
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#62 People don't actually like creativity
People don't actually like creativity.
http://amp.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/12/creativity_is_rejected_teachers_and_bosses_don_t_value_out_of_the_box_thinking.html
Most people are secretly threatened by creativity
https://qz.com/929328/most-people-are-secretly-threatened-by-creativity
Teachers Don't Like Creative Students
http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2011/12/teachers-dont-like-creative-students.html
... and former co-worker at science center ...
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
Cool to be Clever: Edson Hendricks
http://downloads.zdnet.com/product/31709-75651341/
Loads of pre-Internet emails, anecdotes and other computer science
archival material, 12 video interviews with Edson Hendricks and 3
audio interviews of author/composer Leanne Jones, exploration of the
"genius" and "inventive" mind, predicting the future, first email
virus, advice to programmers, the origin of tektites, and so much
more. Ideal for all ages, especially clever children 6+ and anyone
with an interest in Internet history and inventing. How was the
Internet really invented?
... snip ...
It's Cool To Be Clever, The story of Edson C. Hendricks
https://www.amazon.com/Its-Cool-Be-Clever-Hendricks/dp/1897435630/
IT'S COOL TO BE CLEVER tells the true story of an inquisitive boy in
the 1950s who doesn't fit in at school. Edson Hendricks is bullied
because he is so smart (people accuse him of getting answers from his
father who is the principal) and has red hair. He finds comfort in an
imaginary world where he has machine parts, and no internal organs or
emotions.
Years later, Edson's strange capacity to think like a machine helps him
create a new way for computers to communicate. His "connectionless"
network design paves the way for today's Internet.
... snip ...
above referenced:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#14 The Geniuses that Anticipated the Idea of the Internet
other past a.f.c. posts referencing Edson bullying book:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#10 Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#12 Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#2 Soups
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#16 ARPANET's coming out party: when the Internet first took center stage
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#33 Last Word on Dennis Ritchie
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#97 test
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#83 The PC industry is heading for collapse
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#73 Interesting News Article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#66 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#66 IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#73 Miniskirts and mainframes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#53 E.R. Burroughs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#5 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 18:26:27 -0700"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
ibm mainframe by itself didn't particularly protect against overrun, it was system & programming conventions that frequently explicitly carried length and standard operations made use of explicit lengths.
as undergraduate, I had added tty terminal support to cp67 ... and did programming trick with one byte operation (since line length was less than 256).
here ...
https://www.multicians.org/thvv/
this is story of cp67 crashing 27 times in single day
https://www.multicians.org/thvv/360-67.html
At MIT Urban Systems Lab CP67 datacenter ... across the tech sq quad
from 545 (multics on 5th flr, science center on 4th flr)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
... they had ascii plotter(?) down at harvard and modified the cp67 tty max. line length to something like 1100 ... but didn't change/fix the one byte gimmick so the calculation for number of bytes read became negative then very large halfword ... operations then overran the buffer because the length calculations were incorrect.
another part of the story was it was part of motivation for Multics "new storage system" ... since Multics could take hour or more to recover filesystem after crash (there are references to unix being simplified multics ... unix obviously used the "old" file system salvage/recovery design).
some recent posts mentioning "thvv" cp67 story
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#40 PC history, was search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#14 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#51 Information on obscure text editors wanted
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#25 Was VM ever used as an exokernel?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#11 Titles for the Class of 1978
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#48 origin of 'fields'?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#22 Who hasn't caused an outage? What is the worst thing you have done?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#15 545 Tech Square
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#17 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#26 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#44 OT The inventor of Email - Tom Van Vleck
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#12 program coding pads
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#31 Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#22 Interesting News Article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#17 a clock in it, was Re: Interesting News Article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#84 Did Bill Gates Steal the Heart of DOS?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#52 Article for the boss: COBOL will outlive us all
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#30 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#63 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#84 Minicomputer Pricing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#24 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#38 Quote on Slashdot.org
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#39 [CM] Ten recollections about the early WWW and Internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#24 Fifty Years of BASIC, the Programming Language That Made Computers Personal
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#76 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#57 The Stack Depth
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#103 auto-reboot
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#77 Honeywell 200
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Ironic old "fortune" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 08:31:42 -0700"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
just started mcmaster's book on what went wrong with vietnam ... he starts out by talking about in ww2 McNamara started out logicstics statitician for US army air corp. he glosses over that McNamara was lemay's staff planning fire bombing German and Japanese cities.
John Foster Dulles played major role in rebuilding germany's industry and military during 20 & 30s ... then from the law of unintended consequences, when the 1943 US strategic bombing program needed coordinates of German industrial & military targets, they got the information from wallstreet. Later Dulles would make some excuse that all along he had been supporting Nazi Germany as part of opposing communism.
LeMay had been claiming that strategic heavy bombing could win the war without even having to invade Europe (1/3rd of all US WW2 spending went to strategic bombing program). the problem was that even with norden bombsights, it was still almost impossible to hit targets from 5-6 miles up .... which could help explain the switch of strategic heavy bombing to fire bombing cities ... since it would be almost impossible to not hit the target and nearly always show some kind of results.
the switch to fire bombing cities may have been helped along with
finding that (norden bombsights) and strategic heavy bombers at Omaha
beach did almost no damage ... while non-norden, low-level medium
bombing of Utah beach was significantly more successful. "The European
Campaign: Its Origins and Conduct" (no precision strategic bombing),
loc2582-85:
The bomber preparation of Omaha Beach was a total failure, and German
defenses on Omaha Beach were intact as American troops came ashore. At
Utah Beach, the bombers were a little more effective because the IXth
Bomber Command was using B-26 medium bombers. Wisely, in preparation
for supporting the invasion, maintenance crews removed Norden
bombsights from the bombers and installed the more effective low-level
altitude sights.
... snip ...
aka CAS/tactical as opposed to strategic, GAO Desert Storm Air Power report has tactical air campaign (only last 100hrs were land war) so effective that Iraqis were walking away from their tanks (as sitting ducks) ... the later land war tank battles (with little or no coalition damage) doesn't mention whether the enemy tanks had anybody home. Claim is that for Iraq2, enemy had learned from Iraq1 to minimize exposure to US air power.
After ww2, McNamara leaves for the auto industry, but comes back as SECDEF for vietnam ... where Laos becomes the most bombed country in the world (more bombs than germany and japan combined). In a 2003 documentary ("The Fog of War"), McNamara quotes LeMay as saying if we'd lost the war, we would have all been prosecuted as war criminals.
past posts mentioning 43 strategic bombing program
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#52 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#69 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#13 Fully Restored WWII Fighter Plane Up for Auction
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#37 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#77 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#7 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#55 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#0 How Corporate America Invented Christian America; Inside one reverend's big business-backed 1940s crusade to make the country conservative again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#26 Putin's Great Crime: He Defends His Allies and Attacks His Enemies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#28 rationality
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#119 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#31 I Feel Old
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#10 What Will the Next A-10 Warthog Look Like?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#49 Corporate malfeasance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#64 Isolationism and War Profiteering
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#75 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#91 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#11 Study: Cost of U.S. Regulations Larger Than Germany's Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#88 "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#56 "One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#64 Strategic Bombing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#63 America's Over-Hyped Strategic Bombing Experiment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#68 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#83 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#63 One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#97 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#91 Godwin's Law should force us to remember & fear our shared heritage with Nazi Germany
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#38 Imperial Hubris
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#55 Should America Have Entered World War I?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Ironic old "fortune" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 09:45:52 -0700Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
Brothers Dulles
https://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Foster-Dulles-Allen-Secret-ebook/dp/B00BY5QX1K/
loc865-68:
In mid-1931 a consortium of American banks, eager to safeguard their
investments in Germany, persuaded the German government to accept a
loan of nearly $500 million to prevent default. Foster was their
agent. His ties to the German government tightened after Hitler took
power at the beginning of 1933 and appointed Foster's old friend
Hjalmar Schacht as minister of economics.
loc905-7:
Foster was stunned by his brother's suggestion that Sullivan &
Cromwell quit Germany. Many of his clients with interests there,
including not just banks but corporations like Standard Oil and
General Electric, wished Sullivan & Cromwell to remain active
regardless of political conditions.
loc938-40:
At least one other senior partner at Sullivan & Cromwell, Eustace
Seligman, was equally disturbed. In October 1939, six weeks after the
Nazi invasion of Poland, he took the extraordinary step of sending
Foster a formal memorandum disavowing what his old friend was saying
about Nazism
... snip ...
June1940, Germany had a victory celebration at the NYC Waldorf-Astoria
with major industrialists. Lots of them were there to hear how to do
business with the Nazis
https://www.amazon.com/Man-Called-Intrepid-Incredible-Narrative-ebook/dp/B00V9QVE5O/
Later 5000 industrialists from across the US had conference (also) at
NYC Waldorf-Astoria and in part because they had gotten such bad
reputation for the depression and supporting Nazi Germany, they
approved a major propaganda campaign to equate capitalism with
Christianity
https://www.amazon.com/One-Nation-Under-God-Corporate-ebook/dp/B00PWX7R56/
Part of the propaganda campaign resulted in "In God We Trust" being added to money and "Under God" being added to the pledge.
other Sullivan & Cromwell
http://interactive.fusion.net/dirty-little-secrets/
Of course, the U.S. had a big hand in shaping Panama's destiny,
stretching back to days when the canal was still a pipe dream, and even
laid the groundwork for its financial system today. A circle of American
financiers, chief among them J.P. Morgan, made $40 million off the canal
deal, following a stealthy lobbying effort to get lawmakers to choose
Panama over Nicaragua, according to author Ovidio Diaz-Espino's critical
history "How Wall Street Created a Nation." At the time, the canal
arrangement was the most expensive land deal of all time. Afterwards,
Morgan and William Nelson Cromwell, the chief lobbyist for the
financiers, managed Panama's finances up until the 1930s. Cromwell, who
co-founded the prominent law firm Sullivan & Cromwell, also became
Panama's de facto attorney General.
... snip ...
Congress had already passed bill and appropriated money for
Nicaragua, but lobbying on part of wallstreet, got it redone for
Panama ... just part of the (US front) bananam republic histories and
just some of "war is racket"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler
military-industrial(-congressional) complex
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
Sullivan & Cromwell still shows up in DC "revolving doors", firm members lobbying/representating wallsteet, do stint as federal regulators, back to lobbying/representing wallstreet.
post references to Sullivan/Cromwell:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#11 UK government plans switch from Microsoft Office to open source
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#36 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#28 channel islands, definitely not the location of LEO
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#62 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#13 Keydriven bit permutations
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#69 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#86 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#13 Fully Restored WWII Fighter Plane Up for Auction
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#29 Eric Holder Returns as Hero to Law Firm That Lobbies for Big Banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#36 Eric Holder, Wall Street Double Agent, Comes in From the Cold
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#7 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#0 How Corporate America Invented Christian America; Inside one reverend's big business-backed 1940s crusade to make the country conservative again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#26 Putin's Great Crime: He Defends His Allies and Attacks His Enemies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#28 rationality
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#119 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#39 Failure as a Way of Life; The logic of lost wars and military-industrial boondoggles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#49 Corporate malfeasance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#64 Isolationism and War Profiteering
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#75 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#78 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#79 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#11 Study: Cost of U.S. Regulations Larger Than Germany's Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#49 Fateful Choices
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#88 "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#27 British socialism / anti-trust
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#56 "One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#94 The Brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, and Their Secret World War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#9 Wall Street Preparing Dodd-Frank Rule Workaround
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#2 Smedley Butler
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#63 One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#54 Mary Jo White Seriously Misled The US Senate To Become SEC Chair
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#91 Godwin's Law should force us to remember & fear our shared heritage with Nazi Germany
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#55 Should America Have Entered World War I?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 10:51:14 -0700Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
then two of the LSG people used it to do pascal ... which eventually
evolves into (mainframe) vs/pascal ... which is used for lots of
applications ... including 50-60+k statement physical layout
application. also the original mainframe tcp/ip product (which had none
of the buffer overflow problems that were epidemic in C language
implementations). some recent refs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#60 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#80 Languages
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#58 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#25 ARM Cortex A53 64 bit
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#32 The very beginning of TCP/IP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#72 more IBM online systems
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#17 [CM] What was your first home computer?
I also use it for redo of vm spool file system ... running (mostly) in
virtual address space. Issue I had was HSDT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
AMEX, Private Equity, IBM related Gerstner posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
I was doing both tcp/ip and rscs/vnet. rscs/vnet relied heavily on vm spool file system with a synchronous (blocking) 4k block transfer interface. with other concurrent use, rscs/vnet might get 6-8 4k block transfers/sec (24k-32k bytes/sec). I needed a couple mbytes throughput for multiple T1 (& higher speed) full-duplex links.
In the first part of the 90s, IBM has gone into the red and
was being reorged into the 13 "baby blues" in preparation for
breaking up the company. They also bring in new CEO to reverse
the breakup and resurrect the company ... part of it is
similar to what was done at RJR
https://web.archive.org/web/20181019074906/http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml
Also involved was unloading various pieces of IBM ... including doing deal with major VLSI tool vendor ... where they give them lots of internal VLSI tools ... in return for vendor continues to support and make the tools available (including some number eof LSG people joining vendor). VS/Pascal was by then running on both mainframe and RS/6000 and the 50-60+k statement layout tool needs to be ported to industry standard platform (SUN).
I've left IBM, but get a contract to port the layout tool from VS/Pascal
to SUN (pascal). A couple of issues 1) it appears that SUN pascal had
never been used for much more than educational instruction uses and 2)
SUN outsourced pascal to operation on the opposite side of the world (12
time zones away ... involved some former space engineers; I could drop
by SUN hdqtrs everday, but didn't do much good). some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#213 Why is Pascal no longer a leading development Language?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#19 Beyond 8+3
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004k.html#34 August 23, 1957
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#19 Top 10 Cybersecurity Threats for 2009, will they cause creation of highly-secure Corporate-wide Intranets?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#74 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#29 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#76 using an FPGA to emulate a vintage computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#54 PL/I vs. Pascal
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#27 "Best" versus "worst" programming language you've used?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#21 The simplest High Level Language
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#71 New HD
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#53 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#36 Quote on Slashdot.org
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#51 [Poll] Computing favorities
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#24 You thought IEFBR14 was bad? Try GNU's /bin/true code
trivia: for some reason, I've been added to the Facebook "New Stanford Pascal Compiler" group.
trivia: early on, one of the (two) original LSG people that did pascal, leaves, does several stints, including VP of software development at MIPS ... after SGI buys MIPS, becomes general manager of SUN business group that includes responsibility for JAVA. Also, early on, I talked the other person into looking at doing a C-language frontend ... I do a 6week lecture tour in europe and when I get back, he has left and joined Metaware. When the Palo Alto group is working on BSD unix for mainframe, I talk them into contracting with Metaware for the C-compiler. Before it ships, they get redirected to doing BSD for PC/RT instead ... which ships as "AOS" (still using Metaware C-compiler).
and some SFS (vs/pascal spool file rewrite) posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#43 Migrating pages from a paging device (was Re: removal of paging device)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#7 More newbie stop the war here!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#44 PDP-10 Archive migration plan
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#26 Microkernels are not "all or nothing". Re: Multics Concepts For
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#63 SPXTAPE status from REXX
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004g.html#19 HERCULES
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#3 History of C
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#38 Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005s.html#28 MVCIN instruction
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#35 Charging Time
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#21 How many 36-bit Unix ports in the old days?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#45 The Complete April Fools' Day RFCs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#26 Does software life begin at 40? IBM updates IMS database
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#22 Was CMS multi-tasking?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#63 Operating Systems for Virtual Machines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#12 Calling ::routines in oorexx 4.0
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#26 Was VM ever used as an exokernel?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#35 Was VM ever used as an exokernel?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#25 Multiple Virtual Memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#29 Multiple Virtual Memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#18 VM Workshop 2012
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#23 VM Workshop 2012
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#24 Co-existance of z/OS and z/VM on same DASD farm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#91 rebuild 1403 printer chain
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#77 Bell Picturephone--early business application experiments
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#81 Mainframe operating systems?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 12:14:31 -0700"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
some of the CTSS people went to 5th flr and did MULTICS (and folklore is
that some of the multics belllabs people went home and did unix as
simplified multics) and other of the CTSS people went to the science
center on the 4th flr and did virtual machines, internal network, lots
of performance and online stuff ... and also invented GML in 1969.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatible_Time-Sharing_System
above CTSS references this history of ibm mainframe operating systems
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_IBM_mainframe_operating_systems
majority of the internal network was vm370 based
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
... and lots of development ... even including MVS, was all done using
vm370/cms.
part of the problem was that the mainstream development had a hard time
adjusting to 23june1969 unbundling announcement ... including starting
to charge for software (although they made the case that kernel software
could still be free).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle
"unbundling" also met that revenue from the product had to cover development and maintenance ... and typically did low, medium, and high forecasts (presumption that lowest price would have largest number of customers). JES2 development was largely done with vm370/cms ... but they couldn't find JES2 NJI networking price*customers (between $100 and any larger number) that covered development+maintenance (even with much of NJI source originally carrying "TUCC" in cols 68-71). They eventually come up with gimmick to announce NJI by making a joint NJI/VNET-RSCS announcement.
This was in the post-FS period when POK was vigorously working on
killing off vm370 product
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
and blocking VNET-RSCS product announcement ... which could have been
around $30/month. The "joint" announcement was $600/month
... effectively using nearly all the money from "combined" product for
just JES2 NJI. past posts mentioning HASP, JES2, NJI
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#hasp
A couple years later, they loosened up the rules more and products just had
to be in the same development group ... when they put vm370 performance
products (cut back to 3people) in the same group as ISPF (with 200-some
people). vm370 performance products was taken in more money than ISPF
... and was large enough to cover the ISPF revenue shortfall and make
the numbers. past posts mentioning the ISPF revenue hack
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#17 Where's all the VMers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#33 XEDIT on MVS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#50 TSO and more was: PDP-1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#46 DEC-10 SOS Editor Intra-Line Editing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#6 Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#50 Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#84 Set numbers off permanently
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#106 SPF in 1978
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#62 Hard Disk Drive Construction
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#64 Should you support or abandon the 3270 as a User Interface?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#36 The Subroutine Call
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#27 Unbuffered glass TTYs?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#89 Real Programmers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#2 ISPF (was Fujitsu Mainframe Vs IBM mainframe)
I've mentioned before about senior disk engineer claiming that
communication group was going to be responsible for the demise of the
disk division ... communication group was fighting off client/server and
distributed computing, trying to preserve their dumb terminal paradigm
and install base. Disk division was seeing fall in disk sales with data
fleeing datacenters to more distributed computing friendly
platforms. They had come up with a number of products to address the
situation, but constantly being veto'ed by communication group. some
past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal
Somewhat as (partial) workarounds, the senior disk division VP of
software funded POSIX on MVS project and some number of startups that
would utilize mainframe disks. He also had us do some amount of
consulting and visiting the startups he was funding (trying to help
out). For instance one was NCAR filesystem spinoff "Mesa
Archival". past posts mentioning "Mesa Archival"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#21 Disk caching and file systems. Disk history...people forget
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#22 Disk caching and file systems. Disk history...people forget
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#66 commodity storage servers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#46 What goes into a 3090?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#61 GE 625/635 Reference + Smart Hardware
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#29 360/370 disk drives
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#31 360/370 disk drives
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003h.html#6 IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004d.html#75 DASD Architecture of the future
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#29 FW: Is FICON good enough, or is it the only choice we get?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#12 Device and channel
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#15 Device and channel
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#16 Device and channel
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#19 Device and channel
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#29 CRAM, DataCell, and 3850
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#47 IBM Unionization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#51 Barbless
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#58 Disksize history question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#42 Larrabee delayed: anyone know what's happening?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#69 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#71 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#85 3270 Emulator Software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#58 Other early NSFNET backbone
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#34 Last Word on Dennis Ritchie
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#27 NASA unplugs their last mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#47 IBM, Lawrence Livermore aim to meld supercomputing, industries
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#46 Slackware
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#9 3270s & other stuff
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#15 Quixotically on-topic post, still on topic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#68 30 yr old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#47 GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#26 [Poll] Computing favorities
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#63 Zero-copy write on modern motherboards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#67 Zero-copy write on modern motherboards
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 12:52:15 -0700re:
the change from 3272 controller and 3277 terminal to 3274/3278 moved a lot of the electronics out of the terminal and back into the controller ... to reduce manufacturing costs .... also greatly increased coax cable protocol chatter, latency, response, etc.
with the electronics in the 3277, could do some number of hacks to improve the interactive human factors (fifo between keyboard and head, eliminating keyboard lockup if you hit a key while system is writing the screen, changing repeat delay & repeat rate, etc).
a letter was written to the 3274/3278 product administrator complaining about how (newer) 3274/3278 made interactive computing human factors much worse. He eventually responded that 3274/3278 wasn't intended for interactive computing, it was purely for "data entry" (aka electronic key punch).
this was also in the period of papers on (interactive computing) response improving productivity ... at least subsecond and preferably quarter second. One of the premier research locations published that they had best in the world with .25sec interactive (system) response.
3277 had consistent .086 hardware response, to get quarter second seen by the user, needed .164sec system response. I pointed out to them that I had several systems with .11sec system response (with similar hardware and workload) ... they made some offhand comment about it wasn't fair to compare anybody else with my numbers.
3274/3278 hardware best case was .28secs and more typical .53secs. People would brag about TSO 1sec response (but normally, much, much worse ... so MVS users didn't notice change from 3277 to 3278.
past post with some performance numbers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#19 3270 protocol
other trivia: later with ibm/pc emulation ... a PC 3277 terminal emulation card had three times the upload/download speed of 3278 terminal emulation card.
terminal related posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Ironic old "fortune" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 15:34:50 -0700Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> writes:
so then did churchill anticipate hitler's response and send 50 bombers to bomb berlin & civilians on purpose ... as part of relieving pressure on british industry and military targets (sacrificing civilians)?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 21:41:27 -0700Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> writes:
Defeating Buffer Overflow: One of the Most Trivial and Dangerous Bugs of
All!
https://www.nist.gov/publications/defeating-buffer-overflow-one-most-trivial-and-dangerous-bugs-all
from above:
Exact memory checkers, such as Address Sanitizer(ASan) or Purify, check
memory allocation and layout. The overhead can be significant, up to
twice the execution time and memory use, but this may be cheap insurance
against vulnerabilities.
... snip ...
sanitizers (address, thread, memory)
https://github.com/google/sanitizers
AddressSanitizer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AddressSanitizer
Using gcc's 4.8.0 Address Sanitizer with Qt
http://blog.qt.io/blog/2013/04/17/using-gccs-4-8-0-address-sanitizer-with-qt/
buffer overflow
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#buffer
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: 1967 new computer installations Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 01 May 2017 08:51:20 -0700Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
announced were 360/30, 360/40, 360/50, 360/60, 360/70 ... also mentions 360/62 that only differs in core storage speed.
the 360/60 & 360/70 had slower access memory. before ship, memory access was upgraded to 750ns and models shipped were 360/65, 360/75.
360 system timing
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/360/A22_6825-1_360instrTiming.pdf
360/60 was 2mic interleaved, 360/62 was 1mic, 360/70 was 1mic interleaved (pg. 3)
was replaced with 360/65 and 360/75 with 750ns interleaved (360/62 was dropped).
360/67 was 360/65 with virtual memory hardware ... at least for single
processor. 360/67 SMP had multi-ported memory and channel controller.
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/360/functional_characteristics/A27-2719-0_360-67_funcChar.pdf
recent discussion of 360/67 SMP multi-ported ... in discussion
about memory access scale-up.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#74 The ICL 2900
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 01 May 2017 09:06:21 -0700Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> writes:
I had similar but different problem with booting vm370 on 370/125 ... turns out that Boeblingen had implemented MVCL (& CLCL) on 125 (& 115) with 360 semantics rather than new 370 semantics for incremental/interruptable "long" instructions. Apparently vm370 boot was only software that uncovered the bug.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 01 May 2017 09:42:59 -0700jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
at the start of the century there were several efforts for secure payments involving chip cards (and chip readers).
in the internet home pc market, one payment brand added chip to their card and started providing "free" card readers. However, these were serial-port, possibly obtained at fire sale as obsolete. The consumer support problems (BSOD, requiring systems to be re-installed) resulted in rapidly spreading opinion in the financial industry that consumer chipcards were not practical in the home market (it actually wasn't chipcards, or card readers, but serial port devices).
My wife organized a review in Redmond with the kernel security group, what members of the former PC/SC group that could be found and several reps of the financial industry ... but the net was that it wouldn't be possible to reverse the financial industry impression of problems with smartcards in the home market.
I've mentioned before that in the mid-90s that there were several presentations in financial industry conferences about moving from consumer dial-up banking to the internet ... primarily because of enormous consumer support problems of proprietary dial-up infrastructure (primarily all the problems with serial-port dial-up modems). Then a few short years later, all institutional memory of the problems appeared to have evaporated with deployment of free serial-port card readers.
As an aside, a major motivation for USB was all the problems with serial-port. Also, possible reason for the free serial-port cardreader give-away ... was that they got firesale on "obsolete" serial-port readers.
past posts on migration from dial-up banking to internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#dialup-banking
other trivia: at the same time the consumer dial-up banking operations were making presentations on moving to the internet, the commercial, cash-management dial-up banking operations were saying they would *NEVER* move to the internet because of a long list of vulnerabilities. Of course many have since moved to the internet ... and somewhat because of long list of problems, The FED has come out with advisery that businesses have a dedicated PC for online banking that is *NEVER* used for any other purpose.
also around the turn of the century there was a large pilot on the east
coast for point-of-sale chipcard ... that was in their "YES CARD"
period ... old reference to "YES CARD" presentation at cartes2002,
gone 404 but lives on at the wayback machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20030417083810/http://www.smartcard.co.uk/resources/articles/cartes2002.html
they had given me have copy of the presentation ... but it says "confidential" all over it (possibly because I had been proselytizing about the problems well before the presentation, and the people doing the pilot ignored me). Later FED LEO "YES CARD" presentation at ATM Integrity Taskforce meeting ... prompted somebody in the audience to proclaim that they managed to spend billions of dollars to prove that chips are less secure than magstripe.
In the wake of the "YES CARD" pilot ... all evidence of the pilot
appeared to disappear w/o a trace, and the speculation was that it would
be a long time before it was tried in the US again (allowing all the
bugs to be worked out in jurisdictions). some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#yescard
disclaimer: I had designed a chip in the 90s that had none of the exploits and vulnerabilities of the chips being done by the "YES CARD" people. Also transit had asked that the chip be able to do transaction with contactless power in 1/10th of second or less ... and cost a dollar or less ... and be more secure that chips for high-value financial transactions.
technical director for the agency information assurance directorate
asked me to do a talk on it in assurance panel in the trusted
computing track at the intel developer's forum ... gone 404 but lives
on at the wayback machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20011109072807/http://www.intel94.com/idf/spr2001/sessiondescription.asp?id=stp%2bs13
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#trusted.computing
The guy running TPM chip for trusted computing was in the front row, so I quip that it is nice to see that the TPM is beginning to look more and more like my chip. He quips back that I don't have committee of 200 people helping with chip design.
other refs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#aads
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 01 May 2017 10:19:14 -0700Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> writes:
original cp67 & vm370 didn't have to put anything in the virtual address space. 360/370 IPL was 24 byte read into location zero ... and then chained channel program to location 8 ... and when channel program finished loaded psw at location zero (assumed 24 byte read was psw followed by one or two read ccws). All cp67/vm370 had to do was simulate the 1st 24byte read, simulate CCW I/O at location 8, and then do simulated LPSW from location zero.
XA was increasingly tailored for MVS ... and made it more and more difficult to do virtual machine emulation.
3-card loader, first card was 24 bytes read into location zero, followed by two cards of program data read by ccw at location 8 & 16.
CP67 started out with all the assembled source card decks preceeded by BPS loader. CP67 had to make sure that CP67 card load didn't overlay BPS loader. BPS loader than transferred to CPINIT which wrote the memory image to disk ... with disk 24byte IPL that would reread CPINIT back into memory which would do a read instead of a write.
As undergraduate, I modified CP67 to support pageable kernel (provide more pageable memory in 360/67 real storage) ... which required splitting some modules into 4k chunks and added a whole lot of external symbols. I ran into big problem because I exceeded the BPS loader external symbol limit. I had to do all sorts of unnaturual things to stay within the BPS limit (while science shipped lots of my CP67 changes, this is one thing that didn't ship). Later at the science center, I found the source for BPS loader in a card cabinet. I was then able to modify it to support larger number of external symbols.
The VM370-spinoff group (from science center) did decide to ship pageable kernel. One of the things that they didn't pick up was I found that BPS loader passed its external symbol loader table in register. My modified pageable kernel included full external symbol table (passed from BPS loader). Then commands could make use of the full external symbol table ... and dump process could make sure it had prewrote the full external symbol table
VM370 IPCS had convention that the image of the printed external symbol
table could be added to IPCS dump. When I was playing with IPCS ...
recent reference
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#16 [CM] What was your first home computer?
I included support that if it was CSC/VM system with preloaded symbol
table, it would be automagically used. past posts mentioning DUMPRX
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dumprx
past posts mentioning 3card loader:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#135 sysprog shortage - what questions would you ask?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#87 "Bootstrap"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#1 IBM S/360 series operating systems history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#26 PDP-10s and Unix
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#15 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#7 IBM ad for Basic Operating System
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#95 DEBE - card alternative
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Ironic old "fortune" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 01 May 2017 17:51:51 -0700re:
past description
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#53 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#36 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
Luftwaffe had tightly focused radio beam for navigation ... with diagonally intersecting signals, first two signals automatic prepare for release of bombs, and the final signal automatic release of bombs.
British countermeasure was to jam signals and/or spoofing valid signals to misdirect bombers and release of bombs.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 02 May 2017 09:18:26 -0700scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
some of the CTSS people went to 5th flr to do MULTICS ... and others
went to the science center on the 4th flr.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatible_Time-Sharing_System
above CTSS references this history of ibm mainframe operating systems
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_IBM_mainframe_operating_systems
folklore is that bellcore people working on MULTICS went back and did a simplified multics as UNIX ... and possibly simplified language.
MULTICS was written in PLI ... PLI designed to be all things to all
peopled ... language also incorporating FORTRAN and COBOL features.
https://www.multicians.org/pl1.html
MULTICS (w/PLI) also did a lot better job handling buffer overflow issues
buffer overflow posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#overflow
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Mainframe Family tree and chronology 2 Date: 02 May 2017 Blog: FacebookMainframe Family tree and chronology 2
there is currently discussion in a.f.c. on nearly identical
subject. .... brought into question was there any actual 360/90 and
basis for the CDC legal action brought against IBM ... recent post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#29 1967 new computer installations
Future System was early 70s effort that was completely different than
370 and was to completely replace 370. During FS, 370 efforts were
being shutdown ... I continued to work on 360/370 stuff, even
periodically ridiculing the FS activity (which wasn't exactly career
enhancing activity). When FS imploded (w/o even being announced), 3033
and 3081 were Q&D efforts kicked off at the same time ... to get
something quickly back into 370 product pipeline (lack of products
during the FS period is credited with giving clone makers market
foothold). 3033 was 168-3 logic mapped to 20% faster chips. 3081 was
some warmed over FS technology that involved an enormous number of
circuits (significantly worse performance than competition). Some
long-winded analysis from the period
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm
past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
For 303x channel director they used 158 engine with integrated channel microcode and w/o the 370 microcode. A 3031 was 158 engine with 370 microcode (and w/o integrated channel microcode) and a 2nd 158 engine with integrated channel microcode (and w/o 370 microcode). A 3031 was slightly faster than 158-3 since it had separate engines to run the processor and channel microcode. A 3032 was 168-3 with new covers and configured to work with 303x channel director (as external channels). A 3033 was 168-3 logic remapped to 20% faster chips and 303x channel director for external channels.
We had a 16-way 370 multiprocessor project and con'ed the 3033
processor engineers into working on it in their spare time ... a lot
more interesting than the 3033. Everybody thought it was really great,
until somebody got around to telling the head of POK that it could be
decades before the POK favorite son operating system had effective
16-way support. Then the head of POK invites some of us to never visit
POK again (and directs the 3033 processor engineers to stop being
distracted). Mainframe 16-way finally ships in 2000 (nearly 25yrs
later). some SMP posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp
ther trivia ... end of ACS/360 ... executives were afraid it would
advance state-of-the-art to fast and IBM would loose control of the
market (Amdahl leaves after) ... lists some of ACS/360 features that
show up over 20yrs later with ES/9000
https://people.cs.clemson.edu/~mark/acs_end.html
some of the CTSS people went to the 5th flr to do Multics, others went
to the IBM science center on the 4th flr and did virtual machines,
internal network, bunch of online & performance stuff, and invented
GML in 1969
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatible_Time-Sharing_System
above CTSS references this history of ibm mainframe operating systems
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_IBM_mainframe_operating_systems
science center posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
internal network posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
gml posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#sgml
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: National Telephone Day Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 03 May 2017 09:29:36 -0700Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
claim was vendor was using memory chips that failed processor memory tests ... but could still be used for simulated electronic disk. Claim was IBM couldn't do that ... because it so optimized its process that there were almost zero chips that failed processor memory tests.
there was separate case in the late 70s when they were letting me
play disk engineer in bldgs 14&15
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk
3350 had optional fixed-head feature ("A2F", "B2F") for small number of its tracks. I wanted to support multiple "exposure" like on 2305 (i.e. multiple subchannel addresses, supporting multiple concurrent channel programs ... helped mask rotational delay, different subchannel addresses could have channel programs selecting different rotational positions, hardware would select channel program for the closest rotational postions). In the 3350 FH option case ... would be able to do data transfer from fixed-head/track area overlapped while disk arm was moving for rest of disk.
Theere was group in POK doing real electronic disk, code named "VULCAN" (targeted as paging device) ... thought that 3350 FH multiple exposure might impact their market and got it blocked. Before VULCAN was announced/shipped it was shutdown because customers were then buying all the memory chips that IBM was producing as processor memory (at higher markup). For whatever reason, couldn't then resurrect the multiple exposure effort.
2305
https://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/storage/storage_2305.html
3350
https://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/storage/storage_3350.html
http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/content/computing/IBM/Mainframe/Hardware/DataStor/GA26-1638-2_ReferenceManual3350DAS_Apr77.pdf
recent posts mentioning 1655 &/or VULCAN
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#24 What was a 3314?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#23 Frieden calculator
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#68 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#69 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#26 Multitasking, together with OS operations
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#63 Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#65 Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#2 NPS, Gary A. Kildall Conference Room Dedication Ceremony, 21April2017
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 03 May 2017 09:52:09 -0700mausg writes:
sometime in the 80s, vendors started complaining about a specific IBM plant site paying invoices late ... net30/net60/net90 were being pushed to 120 days. the financial officer was found to be improving his numbers with the interest on the extra days. investigation resulted in him getting fired.
there were all sorts of resistance by US banks in the past few decades to switching to same day settlement ... over the loss of float.
EU saw a large proliferation of "stored-value" chipcards in the late 80s and through the 90s. In the later half of 90s, I was asked to design bank-end dataprocessing needed to deploy one of the EU major brands in the US. Along the way, I also did mockup of the business case. It turns out most of the justification was float for the international body (that sold value to the country institutions, which sold value to financial institutions, which then sold value to the end user). Not too long later, EU central banks issued directive that the stored-value chipcards products could retain the float during the startup phase but would then need to start paying interest on unspent value in the consumer cards. Shortly afterwards, most of these products started to disappear (the financial motivation behind the products was eliminated).
some old financial related posts related to float
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsmore.htm#eleccash re:The Law of Digital Cash
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm6.htm#digcash IP: Re: Why we don't use digital cash
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm6.htm#echeck Electronic Checks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm7.htm#idcard2 AGAINST ID CARDS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay11.htm#42 Bank Float May Sink
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm14.htm#7 Bank Float May Sink
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm21.htm#1 Is there any future for smartcards?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm23.htm#22 Payment systems - the explosion of 1995 is happening in 2006
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm23.htm#23 Payment systems - the explosion of 1995 is happening in 2006
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#31 On-card displays
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm27.htm#41 The bank fraud blame game
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm27.htm#42 The bank fraud blame game
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#26 Fixing SSL (was Re: Dutch Transport Card Broken)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#49 Price point
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 03 May 2017 10:43:42 -0700Osmium <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
Late 2008, SECTREAS pressured congress into passing TARP program with $700B appropriated to buy TBTF off-book toxic assets. However ye2008, just the four largest TBTF were carrying $5.2T in off-book toxic assets. As a result, TARP was used for other purposes and left to the federal reserve to bailout the TBTF. The federal reserve fought a long legal battle to prevent public disclosure about what it was doing (buying TBTF off-book toxic assets at 98cents on the dollar and and providing tens of trillions in ZIRP funds). When the federal reserve lost the legal battle, the chairman held press conference where he said that he had assumed that TBTF would use the ZIRP funds to help mainstreet, but when they didn't, he had no way to force them. Note that the chairman had been selected in part because he was a student of the depression, however the federal reserve had tried something similar then with the same results, so there should have been no expectation for different result this time. Claim was that TBTF were using the ZIRP funds for buying US Treasuries and making something like $300B/yr on the spread.
Too Big To Fail posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
toxic CDOs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
fed chairman posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fed.chairman
ZIRP posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#zirp
federally chartered depository institutions used to compete for funds by paying interest on deposits, with the advent of tens of trillions in ZIRP funds, they're getting all the funds that they could possibly hope for, little or no motivation to pay interest.
2002, congress lets the fiscal responsibility act lapse (spending can't exceed tax revenue, on its way to eliminating all federal debt). 2010, CBO report was that 2003-2009, tax revenue cut by $6T and spending increased by $6T, for $12T budget gap compared to fiscal responsible budget (first time taxes were cut to not pay for two wars). Since then only modest spending cuts, but not restored taxes so debt continues to increased. Sort of confluence of 1) Federal Reserve and wallstreet wanted huge federal debt, 2) wallstreet and special interests wanted huge tax cut, 3) military-industrial complex wanted huge spending increase.
fiscal responsibility act posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act
regulatory capture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#regulatory.capture
1999 I was asked to try and help prevent the coming economic mess by improving the integrity of securitized mortgages supporting documents. securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages (posterchild was office bldgs in Dallus/FtWorth that turn out to be empty lots). They then find that they can pay rating agencies for triple-A ratings (when rating agencies know that they aren't worth triple-A, from Oct2008 congressional testimony). Triple-A rating trumps supporting documentation and they can start doing no-documentation liar loans (and no longer had to care about borrower's qualification or loan quality). It was major factor in being able to do over $27T 2001-2008 (especially selling to institutions restricted to dealing only in "safe" investments, like large pension funds). From the law of unintended consequences, the largest TBTF economic mess fines so far are for the robo-signing mills fabricating the missing documents.
There was facade that TARP funds were appropriated to buy the TBTF offbook toxic assets but just the four largest TBTF were still carrying $5.2T ye2008. Also Jan2009 there was news about it was too hard to evaluate value of these offbook toxic assets for purchase ... but it was "too hard" because they were no-documentation, liar loans, also several tens of billions in offbook toxic assets had gone for 22cents on the dollar late summer 2008; if the offbook toxic assets had been bought at that price, the TBTF would had been declared insolvent and forced to be liquidated. In Jan2009 references to facade of evaluating offbook toxic assets, there was mention of one of the commercial service bureaus (virtual machine) CP67 spinoffs participating in the evaluations (firm had early moved upstream into providing online financial information, and also in the 70s had bought the pricing services division from one of the rating agencies).
Note, those doing securitized instruments had found that they could design securitized instruments to fail, pay for triple-A, sell to their customers, and take out CDS gambling bets, creating enormous demand for bad loans. The largest holder of CDS gambling bets was AIG and was negotiating to pay off at 50cents on the dollar when the SECTREAS steps in and has them sign document that they can't sue those making the bets and take TARP funds to pay off at face value. The largest recipient of TARP funds is AIG and the largest recipient of face-value payoffs is the firm formally headed by SECTREAS.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 03 May 2017 12:52:20 -0700re:
After doing "electronic commerce" was asked to participate in x9a10
financial standard working group that had been given the requirement
to preserve the integrity of the financial infrastructure for *ALL*
retail payments (not just internet). We studied end-to-end threats and
vulnerabilities for a number of different retail payments ... and came
up with standard that slightly tweaked the existing infrastructure
... a side effect was that it eliminated needing to hide account
information ... to secure the transactions ... which then also
eliminated the major use of "SSL" in the world today. It didn't
eliminate the motivation for breaches, but eliminated the much of the
motivation for doing those breaches (using information from previous
transactions for doing fraudulent transactions). some refs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#x959
long-winded discussion that wanders around a bit ... but includes
discussion about financial transaction vulnerabilities, replay attack,
dual-use, security proportional to risk, etc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#54
aka replay attacks mean that crooks can use information from previous
transactions to perform fraudulent transactions. profit for merchant on
transaction can be a couple dollars (for transaction processor a few
cents) ... the "profit" for crook on transaction information can be
account balance or (open to buy) credit limit ... so a crook may
afford to spend 100 times more attacking a merchant than merchant can
spend defending (aka security proportional to risk). security proportional
to risk posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#security.proportional.to.risk
"dual-use" vulnerability ... transaction information is required for
dozen of business processes at millions of location around the world
... but since the same information can be used by crooks ... it must
be kept completely confidential and never divulged (diametrically
opposing requirements) ... I've pontificate that even if the world was
buried under miles of information hiding crypto, it still wouldn't
stop info leakage
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#harvest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#secrets
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#payments
even tho the change was relatively trivial technical change for end-to-end integrity, it was a major business disrupter ... since it drastically reduced the barrier for doing payments and threatened the major stakeholders
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Mainframe Family tree and chronology 2 Date: 03 May 2017 Blog: Facebookre:
there were a number of 3033 issues. the 20% faster chips were straight-forward remap ... but compared poorly with clone makers. The faster chips also had ten times the circuits but straight remap didn't use the extra circuits. Eventually there was some critical logic rework to take advantage of onchip performance and 3033 got up to 1.5 times 168-3 (3mips to 4.5mips)
other issues were huge MVS bloat and system design. Move from OS/VS2 SVS to OS/VS2/MVS gave 16mbyte address space to each application. However os/360 paradigm was heavily pointer passing based (with direct addressing of application parameter) ... and so included an 8mbyte image of MVS system in each address space (so system code could directly address application space). A bigger issue was subsystems are now in their own separate address space ... in order to support pointer-based parameter calls, they created the common segment area, a 1mbyte area in each address space (application use is now down to 7mbyte), where applications allocate space for subsystem API calls (addressable by application and all subsystems). The issue is that total common space needed is somewhat proportion to number of applications and number of subsystems, so in the 3033 time-frame CSA had evolved to common system area and 5-6mbytes (leaving 2-3mbytes for application), but threatening to increase to 8mbytes (leaving nothing for applications).
the other issue was kernel and subsystem real storage (for the larger 3033) systems was approach 16mbytes ... so even a 16mbyte 3033 was in danger of page thrashing ... and two processor 3033MP made the problem worse (more work with no increase in max memory). A gimmick was done to allow greater than 16mbyte real storage ... even though still limited to 370 24bit addressing. Two undefined bits in 370 16bit page-table entries were scavenged for real page numbers. The two bits were added to existing 12bit page number (addressing 16mbyte of 4k pages) for 14bit page number (addressing up to 64mbyte of 4k pages). This was the start of the "above" the line and "below" the line (needed for 24bit CCWs and other stuff). I/O (including page i/o) could be performed above the line using (existing 370) 31bit IDALs (but CCWs and IDALs themselves had to be below the line).
There were cases where virtual page above the line had to be brought down below the line. The VM370 group started out with gimmick to write an "above-the-line" page to disk and then read it back in "below the line". I gave them a different hack, using a specially constructed page table with page table entries for both the above the line and below the line real addresses ... and then all it had to do was do a move between the two different virtual addresses.
370xa included architecture to address the MVS pointer passing paradigm ... access registers ... which could have simultaneous pointers for multiple different address spaces. A subset of this was retrofitted to 3033 as dual-address space (no longer needed area in CSA, subsystems could address anywhere in application space, but required subsystems to be modified to support the new addressing).
then there was benchmarks that the 3081D (claimed 5mips/processor)
single processor throughput was actually worse than 3033
("4.5mips"). the 3081K cache size was doubled claiming 40% performance
improvement (7mips) but many single processor benchmarks came in
around 3033.
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm
some other recent 3033 posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#8 BSAM vs QSAM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#50 Mainframes after Future System
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#81 GREAT presentation on the history of the mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#61 Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] cheap money, was What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 04 May 2017 09:07:22 -0700Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> writes:
the original rhetoric on the floor of congress about the primary
purpose of GLBA (now better known for repeal of Glass-Steagall)
was that if you already had banking charter, you got to keep it, if
didn't already have a banking charter, you couldn't get one (aka keep
new competition with latest technology, more efficient technology out
of banking).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm%E2%80%93Leach%E2%80%93Bliley_Act
primary person behind GLBA is #2 on times list responsible for the
economic mess.
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html
not so much for GLBA ... but for preventing regulation of "over the counter derivatives" (CDS gambling bets), originally billed as gift to ENRON. When the chair of CFTC suggested regulating derivatives, the chair was quickly replaced by the wife of #2, preventing regulation while her husband got bill passed. She then resigns and joins the ENRON board and audit committee.
Greenspan Slept as Off-Books Debt Escaped Scrutiny
... gone 404, http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=aYJZOB_gZi0I
but, web search for copy
http://investpost.org/cash/greenspan-slept-as-offbooks-debt-escaped-scrutiny/
That same year Greenspan, Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin and SEC
Chairman Arthur Levitt opposed an attempt by Brooksley Born, head of
the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, to study regulating
over-the-counter derivatives. In 2000, Congress passed a law keeping
them unregulated.
... snip ...
Gramm and the 'Enron Loophole'
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/business/17grammside.html
Enron was a major contributor to Mr. Gramm's political campaigns, and
Mr. Gramm's wife, Wendy, served on the Enron board, which she joined
after stepping down as chairwoman of the Commodity Futures Trading
Commission.
... snip ...
Gramm's wife must have fairly quickly replaced Born, before resigning to join Enron board (and audit committee).
Phil Gramm's Enron Favor
... also gone 404 http://www.villagevoice.com/2002-01-15/news/phil-gramm-s-enron-favor/
but lives on at wayback machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20080711114839/http://www.villagevoice.com/2002-01-15/news/phil-gramm-s-enron-favor/
A few days after she got the ball rolling on the exemption, Wendy
Gramm resigned from the commission. Enron soon appointed her to its
board of directors, where she served on the audit committee, which
oversees the inner financial workings of the corporation. For this,
the company paid her between $915,000 and $1.85 million in stocks and
dividends, as much as $50,000 in annual salary, and $176,000 in
attendance fees
... snip ...
past posts mentioning ENRON
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
Note to be eligible for Federal Reserve ZIRP funds, TBTF have to have banking charter. There were some of the Federal Reserve TBTF friends there were still straight investment banks that also didn't have banking charter. From the law of unintended consequences, the Federal Reserve then hands out banking charters to its TBTF friends (that don't already have one, in order to make them eligible for tens of trillions in ZIRP funds), theoretically in violation of GLBA. As mentioned upthread, the largest recipient of TARP funds was AIG, and the largest recipient of AIG face-value (CDS gambling bet) payoffs was firm formally headed by SECTREAS last decaded (also was one of the firms that got brand spanking new banking charter). The SECTREAS in the 90s, had also formally headed that firm (and current SECTREAS is also from that firm), one of the jokes that the US Treasury is that firm's branch office in Washington.
posts mentioning TBTF
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
posts mentioning ZIRP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#zirp
posts mentioning Percora Hearings and/or Glass-Steagall
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
Middle of last decade, the largest retailer in the US (something like
25-30% of transactions) announced it was going to acquire an Utah ILC
(special kind of banking charter) ... in order to become its own
merchant acquirer (responsible for sponsoring merchants to perform
credit card transactions). Its existing (TBTF) merchant acquirer
started publicity program to have congress block the merchant from
acquiring the Utah ILC ... claiming the retailer would adversely affect
the community banks and credit unions around the country ... when it
would really mean that the TBTF would loose its enormous (credit card)
interchange fees from that merchant. recent post mentioning interchange
fees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#102 Electronic Payments
Unrelated, I had come up with process where somebody could do a transaction at merchant checkout counter that would magically turn into FDIC banking transaction ... without violating any of the laws and regulations designed to prevent such activity ... and had some meetings with the retailer ... but there was quick action to close the loopholes.
some discussion more recent legal actions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payment_Card_Interchange_Fee_and_Merchant_Discount_Antitrust_Litigation
older legal action
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B05E1D8163DF93BA35752C1A9619C8B63
http://www.mit.edu/~thistle/v12/2/credit.html
Republicans and Saudis bailing out the Bushes
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] cheap money, was What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 04 May 2017 09:26:49 -0700Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> writes:
around the turn of the century (before TBTF had really started to take hold), I was given a copy of a periodic financial industry publication to evaluate. It had 60 lines per page, and 100+ pages of financial numbers for every possible type of banking operations. It gave the avg. of the number for 20 regional banks compared to the avg. of the number fo 10 national banks (just raw numbers with no analysis). After looking at the numbers for half hour, it became apparent that the regional banks were slightly more efficient than the national banks ... aka even before TBTF really kicks in, it was already evident that national banks had exceeded some size threashold ... basicly too big to manage. I've pontificated that the TBTF justification was primarily based on top executive compensation proportional to size of institution ... unrelated to efficiency/quality of operation.
posts mentioning Too Big To Fail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
past posts mentioning periodic financial industry publication
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#16 Fake debate: The Senate will not vote on big banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#21 Fake debate: The Senate will not vote on big banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#43 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#67 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#7 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#28 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#39 Kabuki Theater 1603-1629
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#14 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#83 The banking sector grew seven times faster than gross domestic product since the beginning of the financial crisis and Too-Big-to-Fail: Banks Get Bigger After Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#25 You may ask yourself, well, how did I get here?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#1 The Dallas Fed Is Calling For The Immediate Breakup Of Large Banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#9 JPM LOSES $2 BILLION USD!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#84 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#44 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#51 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#3 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#2 IBM Relevancy in the IT World
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#63 LA Times commentary: roll out "smart" credit cards to deter fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#55 Piketty Shreds Marginal Productivity as Neoclassical Justification for Supersized Pay
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#63 The Fed Just Acknowledged Its Too Big To Jail Policy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#23 What were the complaints of binary code programmers that not accept Assembly?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#31 Bernie Sanders Proposes A Bill To Break Up The 'Too Big To Exist' Banks
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] cheap money, was What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 04 May 2017 10:32:28 -0700Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> writes:
posts mentioning Too Big To Fail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
claim is that during the economic mess, financial services sector tripled in size (as percent of GDP) ... w/o providing any measurable benefit for society (in fact just the opposite).
VP and former CIA director repeatedly claims no knowledge of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_affair
because he was fulltime administration point person deregulating
financial industry ... creating S&L crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
along with other members of his family
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan
and another
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0D81E3BF937A25753C1A966958260
Republicans and Saudis bailing out the Bushes
another family member then presides over the economic mess 70 times larger than the S&L crisis. S&L crisis had 1000 criminal convictions with jailtime, proportionally the economic mess should have 70,000.
the public references I first noticed for too big to prosecute and
too big to jail was accounts of too big to fail were found to be
money laundering for drug cartels and terrorists ... and just being
asked if they would please stop (which they didn't).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering
I was asked Jan2009 to HTML'ize the Pecora Hearings (30s congressional hearings into '29 crash that resulted in Glass-Steagal, criminal convictions and jail time) with lots of internal HREFs and URLs between what happened this time and what happened then (comments that the new congress might have appetite to do something). I work on it for awhile and then get a call saying it won't be needed after all (comments about enormous mountains of wallstreet money totally burying capital hill).
posts mentioning Percora Hearings and/or Glass-Steagall
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
recent related posts in thread
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#31 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#37 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#38 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#39 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#41 [CM] cheap money, was What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#42 [CM] cheap money, was What was your first home computer?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] cheap money, was What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 04 May 2017 12:09:26 -0700Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
Republicans and Saudis bailing out the Bushes
another family member then presides over the economic mess 70 times
larger than the S&L crisis. S&L crisis had 1000 criminal
convictions with jailtime, proportionally the economic mess should
have 70,000.
from above:
According to the Roosevelt study, that was why Volcker had to go:
Baker's [explanation for why Volcker should not be reappointed] was
startlingly direct: Possible repeal of Glass-Steagall was the signature
issue used by investment bankers, led by then-Goldman Sachs executive
Robert Rubin, to raise money for the Democratic Party from their cohorts
on Wall Street. Getting rid of Glass-Steagall, Baker explained, would
alter the balance of power between the two major parties by depriving
the Democrats of a central revenue stream.
... snip ...
Rubin was then SECTREAS in the 90s when repeal of Glass-Steagall is added to GLBA (another head of the firm was SECTREAS last decade) ... and another from the firm is current SECTREAS (joke that Treasury Department is the firm's branch office in DC).
Gerstner was in competition to be next CEO of AMEX and wins. The looser leaves, taking their protegee with them to Baltimore, taking over what was called a loan-sharking business. They make some number of other acquisitions, eventually acquiring CITI in violation of Glass-Steagall. Greenspan gives them an exemption while they lobby Wash. DC for repeal. They enlist some number in DC including SECTREAS (Rubin). Repeal of Glass-Steagall is added to GLBA and once it is under way, the SECTREAS resigns and becomes what was described at the time as co-CEO of CITI.
posts mentioning Percora Hearings and/or Glass-Steagall
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
fed chairman posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fed.chairman
posts mentioning Gerstner
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
trivia: GLBA initially passes along party lines (54-44) and folklore is
that POTUS was prepared to veto it. They then went back and added
amendments and it eventually passed with veto proof 90-8 (along with
claim that there was total of $240M from wallstreet for congress,
divided R$125M & D$115M)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm%E2%80%93Leach%E2%80%93Bliley_Act
Milton Friedman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Friedman
from above:
Friedman promoted an alternative macroeconomic viewpoint known as
"monetarism", and argued that a steady, small expansion of the money
supply was the preferred policy.[12] His ideas concerning monetary
policy, taxation, privatization and deregulation influenced government
policies, especially during the 1980s.
... snip ...
Milton Friedman's Cherished Theory Is Laid to Rest
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-01-12/milton-friedman-s-cherished-theory-is-laid-to-rest
from above:
Even now, when economic models have become far more complex than
anything in Friedman's time, economists still go back to Friedman's
theory as a mental touchstone -- a fundamental intuition that guides the
way they make their models. My first macroeconomics professor believed
in it deeply and instinctively, and would even bring it up in department
seminars.
... snip ...
Economists and the Powerful: Convenient Theories, Distorted Facts, Ample
Rewards
https://www.amazon.com/Economists-Powerful-Convenient-Distorted-Economics-ebook/dp/B01B4X4KOS/
"The Undoing Project" goes into some detail how Kahneman and Tversky
disproved economists' assumption that people make rational decisions
... loc1155-59:
He had listened to an American economist talk about how so-and-so was
stupid and so-and-so was a fool, then said, "All your economic models
are premised on people being smart and rational, and yet all the people
you know are idiots."
... snip ..
Kahneman (a psychologist) gets Nobel prize in economics, in part for debunking some cherished economic theories
2002, congress lets the fiscal responsibility act lapse (spending can't exceed tax revenue, on its way to eliminating all federal debt). 2010, CBO report was that 2003-2009, tax revenue cut by $6T and spending increased by $6T, for $12T budget gap compared to fiscal responsible budget (first time taxes were cut to not pay for two wars). Since then only modest spending cuts, but not restored taxes so debt continues to increased. Sort of confluence of 1) Federal Reserve and wallstreet wanted huge federal debt, 2) wallstreet and special interests wanted huge tax cut, 3) military-industrial complex wanted huge spending increase.
fiscal responsibility act
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act
regulatory capture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#regulatory.capture
recent posts in thread
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#31 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#37 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#38 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#39 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#41 [CM] cheap money, was What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#42 [CM] cheap money, was What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#43 [CM] cheap money, was What was your first home computer?
recent posts mentioning Friedman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#17 Destruction of the Middle Class
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#24 Destruction of the Middle Class
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#26 Milton Friedman's Cherished Theory Is Laid to Rest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#29 Milton Friedman's Cherished Theory Is Laid to Rest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#31 Milton Friedman's Cherished Theory Is Laid to Rest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#32 Star Trek (was Re: TV show Mannix observations)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#34 If economists want to be trusted again, they should learn to tell jokes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#64 Improving Congress's oversight of the intelligence community
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#66 Deep learning algorithm does as well as dermatologists in identifying skin cancer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#92 Trump's Rollback of the Neoliberal Market State
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#97 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#101 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#102 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#10 IBM 1970s
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#11 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#16 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#17 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#24 Disorder
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#25 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#26 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#35 Former CIA Analyst Sues Defense Department to Vindicate NSA Whistleblowers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#43 when to get out???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#0 Locking our own orientation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#5 NSA Deputy Director: Why I Spent the Last 40 Years In National Security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#25 Hamilton and "Fake News"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#32 Hamilton and "Fake News"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#67 Economists are arguing over how their profession messed up during the Great Recession. This is what happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#77 Trump delay of the 'fiduciary rule' will cost retirement savers $3.7 billion
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#89 Understanding decisions: The power of combining psychology and economics
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#93 United Air Lines - an OODA-loop perspective
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#96 Cognitive Bias Codex, 2016
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#97 IBM revenue has fallen for 20 quarters -- but it used to run its business very differently
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#7 Arthur Laffer's Theory on Tax Cuts Comes to Life Once More
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] cheap money, was What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 05 May 2017 09:51:56 -0700Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
the "protegee" early in the century leaves CITI and becomes CEO of one of the other four largest TBTF (i.e. CITI and three other TBTF were still holding $5.2T in toxic assets ye2008; TARP originally appropriated to buy these toxic assets, but with only $700B, couldn't have done more than slight dent in the problem).
(triple-A rated) toxic CDOs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
and:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#41 [CM] cheap money, was What was your first home computer?
Middle of last decade, the largest retailer in the US (something like
25-30% of transactions) announced it was going to acquire an Utah ILC
(special kind of banking charter) ... in order to become its own
merchant acquirer (responsible for sponsoring merchants to perform
credit card transactions). Its existing (TBTF) merchant acquirer started
publicity program to have congress block the merchant from acquiring the
Utah ILC ... claiming the retailer would adversely affect the community
banks and credit unions around the country ... when it would really mean
that the TBTF would loose its enormous (credit card) interchange fees
from that merchant. recent post mentioning interchange fees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#102 Electronic Payments
... snip ...
This particular TBTF is also the institution that the "protegee" (previously at AMEX & CITI) became (and still is) CEO of.
other Gerstner/AMEX/etc trivia ... AMEX and KKR are in competition for
private-equity LBO of RJR and KKR wins. KKR runs into issues with
RJR and hires away president of AMEX to turn it around
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarians_at_the_Gate:_The_Fall_of_RJR_Nabisco
IBM has gone into the red and was being reorged into the 13 "baby
blues" in preparation for breaking up the company. The board then
hires away former president of AMEX to reverse the breakup and
resurrect IBM ... using some of the same techniques used at RJR
https://web.archive.org/web/20181019074906/http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml
After leaving IBM, former president of AMEX goes on to head up
one of the other largest private-equity companies ... which
will take-over betlway bandit that will employ Snowden
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/
same timeframe that IBM has gone into the red, AMEX spins off a lot of its dataprocessing and financial outsourcing in the largest IPO (up until that time) as FDC. FDC last decade, was doing "outsourced" processing for something over half of all credit cards in the US (in addition to owning WU); got very small percent of interchange fee for the actual processing ... including for the TBTF institution headed up by "protegee" that was previously at AMEX & CITI.
I've previously mentioned that middle of last decade, FDC spins of Western Union. Then after WU is spun off, KKR does a private-equity LBO of remaining FDC (in the largest LBO up until that time, 15yrs after FDC had been the larges IPO).
posts mentioning private-equity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity
recent posts mentioning (FDC &) Western Union
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#45 Western Union Admits Anti-Money Laundering and Consumer Fraud Violations, Forfeits $586 Million in Settlement with Justice Department and Federal Trade Commission
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#15 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#16 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#3 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#77 Trump's crackdown focuses on people in the U.S. illegally - but not on the businesses that hire them
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#9 Which States Account for Our Trade Deficit with Mexico?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#15 The Geniuses that Anticipated the Idea of the Internet
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 05 May 2017 10:35:54 -0700Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> writes:
I get caught up in endicott project for (370) 138/148 for microcode
assist. IBM low-end & mid-range were implemented in vertical microcode
... that executed an avg. of ten native instructures for every 370
instruction ... something like the current Hercules mainframe emulator.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules_(emulator)
they had 6k bytes of available microcode storage. objective was to
identify the 6k bytes of most executed vm370 kernel pathlengths ... and
move them into microcode ... 6kbyte pathlengths accounted for about 80%
of kernel execution ... and move of 6k bytes of 370 to 6k bytes of native
got a 10:1 speedup.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#21 370 ECPS VM microcode assist
Then POK started doing something similar for MVS on 3033. High-end mainframe processors were horizontal microcode that could have a bunch of overlap for each machine cycle. 370/165 was about 2.1 machine cycles per 370 instruction. Move to 370/168 was (larger &) faster real storage, but also microcode optimization improved things to 1.6 machine cycles per 370 instruction.
With failure of FS, 3033 and 370/xa were kicked off in parallel.
3033 started off mapping 168-3 logic to 20% faster chips
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm
that would only moved from 3mips to 3.6mips ... which didn't compare well with clone processors. The 20% faster chips also had ten times the circuits ... the additional circuits going unused. There was then some redesign of some core logic to take advantage of additional circuits and get speedup with more onchip processing. There was also improvement in the microcode improving it to about one machine cycle per 370 instruction (from 2.1 in 165 and 1.6 in 168). Combination got 3033 to 1.5 times 168-3 ... or around 4.5mips.
On 3033, there was little or no difference between executing something in 370 instructions and executing the same logic in horizontal microcode. As a result the various MVS microcode assists on 3033, showed little or no performance improvement ... and in some cases ran slower. Things moving to microcode would only show improvement if it could be done in totally different way that actually reduced processing needed.
I did several presentations on the VM370 ECPS microcode assist at user group meetings that got quite a bit of interest from people at Amdahl. They explained that they had developed "macrocode" for their (highend, horizontal microcode) machines ... basically looked & felt like 370 ... but ran in microcode mode (significantly easier to program than horizontal microcode, with little loss of performance).
Starting with 3033, there seemed to be a constant stream of relatively trivial "microcode assists" ... supposedly for performance improvements ... but some conjecture that they actually was countermeasure to the clone processor makers (newer operating system releases always required the latest feature tweaks). There was some implication that Amdahl's "macrocode" was to make it relatively easy & trivial to track the constant stream of IBM's microcode assist tweaking.
Amdahl "macrocode" also made it relatively easy for them to implement "hypervisor" ... basically a subset of virtual machine vm370 function directly as part of the machine (w/o needing a vm370 operating system). This was in IBM's 3090 timeframe ... and it took IBM quite a bit longer to respond to Amdahl's hypervisor with 3090 LPAR supprot (since it had to be done in native horizontal microcode, which was significantly more complex to program).
past posts mentioning Amdahl's "macrocode":
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#44 Linux paging
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#48 Linux paging
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#9 Mainframe System Programmer/Administrator market demand?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#56 Wild hardware idea
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#59 Misuse of word "microcode"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#60 Misuse of word "microcode"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#24 Description of a new old-fashioned programming language
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#14 Multicores
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#29 Documentation for the New Instructions for the z9 Processor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#40 POWER6 on zSeries?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#43 POWER6 on zSeries?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#48 POWER6 on zSeries?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#38 blast from the past ... macrocode
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#9 Mainframe Jobs Going Away
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#32 Code density and performance?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#35 Code density and performance?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#39 Using different storage key's
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#42 old hypervisor email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#33 Assembler question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#34 Assembler question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#20 Ranking of non-IBM mainframe builders?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#1 How many 36-bit Unix ports in the old days?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#3 Has anyone ever used self-modifying microcode? Would it even be useful?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#9 Has anyone ever used self-modifying microcode? Would it even be useful?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#84 VLIW pre-history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#74 Non-Standard Mainframe Language?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#96 some questions about System z PR/SM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#32 New Opcodes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#33 New Opcodes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#42 New Opcodes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#26 Op codes removed from z/10
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#27 CPU time/instruction table
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#74 z millicode: where does it reside?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#93 Irrational desire to author fundamental interfaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#102 Question on PR/SM dispatcher
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#3 Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#58 Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#68 Linear search vs. Binary search
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#27 World's worst programming environment?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#46 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made30yearsagotoday
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#17 Write Inhibit
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#20 Write Inhibit
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#19 DG Nova 1200 as console
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#100 No Internet. No Microsoft Windows. No iPods. This Is What Tech Was Like In 1984
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#161 Slushware
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#85 a bit of hope? What was old is new again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#44 John Titor was right? IBM 5100
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#37 IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: A flaw in the design; The Internet's founders saw its promise but didn't foresee users attacking one another Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 05 May 2017 11:07:37 -0700A flaw in the design; The Internet's founders saw its promise but didn't foresee users attacking one another
We looked at this in the 70s & 80s on the internal network (larger than
arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until sometime
mid-80s). Similar technology was also used for the corporate sponsored
university network (which was also larger than arpanet/internet for a
time)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BITNET
but they (also) ignored some of the same issues as internet/arpanet
... and had a problem Dec1987, a year earlier than the internet Nov1988.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_Tree_EXEC
http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/nistir/threats/subsubsection3_3_2_1.html
internal network posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
bitnet posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet
internet posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internet
I mentioned being brought into small client/server startup as consultant that wanted to do payment transactions, they had also invented this technology called "SSL" they wanted to use, the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce". I had absolute authority on the server to gateway for the payment networks, but could only make recommendations on the client/server side, some of which were immediately violated/ingored, which account for some of the exploits that continue to this day. For the server/gateway I had to do compensating processes (documentation and software) to create what I considered industrial strength dataprocessing.
Until he passed, the internet standard RFC editor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Postel
use to let me help with periodic STD1. Also, he had me do a talk at
ISI/USC (including USC computer security graduate students) on "Why the
internet isn't business criticial dataprocessing".
recent ref:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#14 The Geniuses that Anticipated the Idea of the Internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#15 The Geniuses that Anticipated the Idea of the Internet
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 05 May 2017 13:17:51 -0700scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
engineer working on 370/158 added virtual machine mode ... and original VM-assist. Normally, virtual machines were run in problem state mode and supervisor instructions interrupted into virtual machine kernel for emulation. Original VM assist added flag bit in control registers and modified microcode for some number of supervisor instructions to test for virtual machine mode ... and execute according to virtual machine rules ... w/o having to interrupt back into the kernel for software emulation.
Basic ECPS just added a bunch of new op-codes ... for each kernel path moved to microcode ... and the specific op-code was inserted in front of the kernel code ... and would complete with the next instruction after the set of instructions moved to microcode. The system boot process would test if ECPS microcode was installed and then go around, replacing all the ECPS opcodes with no-ops.
The ECPS effort also added one or two additional supervisor instructions that were supported by VM assist (supervisor instructions that could execute according to virtual machine rules).
The 370/xa architecture (started after the failure of FS and shows up finally in 3081) didn't support directly moving from virtual machine supervisor to virtual machine mode (like in 360 & 370) ... so they invented the SIE instruction for being able to enter virtual machine mode
As I've previously mentioned, the head of POK got VM370 product killed and all the people moved to POK as part of MVS/XA development (endicott did manage to save the vm370 product mission, but had to recreate a development group from scratch).
Some of the former VM370 people created the virtual machine TOOL ... for MVS/XA testing ... purely for internal only use and never intended to be released to customers. As part of that effort SIE was originally developed. However, performanance wasn't a specific issue and there wasn't enough space in 3081 for all the SIE function. It turns out that when SIE was too large for the available 3081 microcode space ... and so had to be "swapped" in each time it was executed (making it a rather time consuming process).
Later 3090 people go into some detail how they re-engineered SIE for performance ... and then later SIE microcode was critical part of LPAR microcode ... aka there wasn't a virtual machine supervisor that executed instructions on behalf of virtual machine ... the physical machine was split into multiple Logical PARtititons (LPAR) and operated as if they physically different machines (although relied heavily on lots of the microcode used for virtual machine operation). The original LPAR implementation couldn't run a virtual machine supervisor ... but didn't support virtual machine assist by the supervisor ... since it wasn't recursive implementation. Later it was enhanced to be recursive so virtual machine supervisor running in LPAR could use virtual machine assist for performance of its virtual machines.
LPARS also started out being contiguous range of real storage with base/limit bounds.
old email mentioning SIE for 3090
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#email810630
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#email831118
past posts mentioning SIE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#37 SIE instruction (S/390)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#50 VM (not VMS or Virtual Machine, the IBM sort)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#51 VM (not VMS or Virtual Machine, the IBM sort)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#52 VM (not VMS or Virtual Machine, the IBM sort)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#29 z900 and Virtual Machine Theory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#21 Root certificates
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#71 IBM 9020 FAA/ATC Systems from 1960's
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#73 Most complex instructions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#38 CMS under MVS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#53 TSS/360
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#6 Microcode?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#44 PDP-10 Archive migration plan
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002o.html#15 Home mainframes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002o.html#18 Everything you wanted to know about z900 from IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#40 Linux paging
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#44 Linux paging
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#48 Linux paging
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#5 vax6k.openecs.org rebirth
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#6 vax6k.openecs.org rebirth
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#7 vax6k.openecs.org rebirth
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#0 Disk drives as commodities. Was Re: Yamhill
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003f.html#54 ECPS:VM DISPx instructions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003f.html#56 ECPS:VM DISPx instructions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#42 Flash 10208
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#13 CPUs with microcode ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003o.html#52 Virtual Machine Concept
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#57 System/360; Hardwired vs. Microcoded
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#17 {SPAM?} DCSS as SWAP disk for z/Linux
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#9 Mainframe Jobs Going Away
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#27 virtual memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#29 How to implement Lpars within Linux
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#31 virtual memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006l.html#22 Virtual Virtualizers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#44 Any resources on VLIW?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#42 old hypervisor email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#1 How many 36-bit Unix ports in the old days?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#21 history question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#49 SVCs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#61 ISA Support for Multithreading
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#65 IBM S/360 series operating systems history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#39 FBA rant
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#72 The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#59 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#96 some questions about System z PR/SM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#42 mainframe performance, was Is a RISC chip more expensive?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#9 Open z architecture and Linux questions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#27 CPU time/instruction table
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#29 Status of Arpanet/Internet in 1976?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#51 "Portable" data centers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#66 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#70 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#44 Need tool to zap core
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#51 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#76 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#71 "SIE" on a RISC architecture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#72 "SIE" on a RISC architecture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#55 z millicode: where does it reside?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#74 z millicode: where does it reside?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#62 When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#71 Fujitsu starts shipping 800 rack 80,000 chip 'K' supercomputer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#28 Personal histories and IBM computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#62 SIE - CompArch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#18 Melinda Varian's history page move
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#70 vm/370 3081
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#87 A History of VM Performance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#30 vm370 running in "XA-mode"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#22 First 5.25in 1GB drive?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#27 First 5.25in 1GB drive?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#39 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#2 WHAT WAS THE PROJECT YOU WERE INVOLVED/PARTICIPATED AT IBM THAT YOU WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#68 IBM Mainframe (1980's) on You tube
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#63 Before the PC: IBM invents virtualisation (Cambridge skunkworks)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#30 CMS load module format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#113 Start Interpretive Execution
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#114 Start Interpretive Execution
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#115 Start Interpretive Execution
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#116 Start Interpretive Execution
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#117 Start Interpretive Execution
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#118 Start Interpretive Execution
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#39 SIE - CompArch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#50 SIE - CompArch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#37 Regarding Time Sharing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#43 Regarding Time Sharing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#67 Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#46 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made30yearsagotoday
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#62 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made30yearsagotoday
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#17 Write Inhibit
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#40 The mainframe turns 50, or, why the IBM System/360 launch was the dawn of enterprise IT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#10 R.I.P. PDP-10?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#19 DG Nova 1200 as console
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#78 Microcode
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#37 IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#53 Multics Timeline
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#80 Great mainframe history(?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#81 GREAT presentation on the history of the mainframe
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: A flaw in the design; The Internet's founders saw its promise but didn't foresee users attacking one another Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 05 May 2017 13:27:30 -0700re:
... some of this prompted by ongoing thread on the article in facebook
the telco were really conflicted about all the "dark" fiber in the 80s ... it enormously increased available bandwidth ... however they were in a extreme chicken&egg situation. Their business model was "use" charges necessary to support very high run rate. They would have to drastically reduce the "use" charges in order to motivate the innovation needed for new high-bandwidth applications. However, it would take years for the high-bandwidth applications to evolve ... during which time the telcos would be operating at enormus loss. Somehow they had to break the chicken/egg deadlock.
the other part was that telcos were heavily involved in OSI model ... basically telco institutional centric paradigm ... no internetworking.
NSF provided support for internconnecting the NSF supercomputer centers
... and as regional networks connect into the centers, it evolves into
the NSFNET backbone, precursor to modern internet. Telco resources
provided to the backbone was something like 4-6 times the gov. funds
awarded in the RFP ... basically significantly over provisioning
... helping encourage the development and evolution of new generation of
bandwidth hungry applications ... and at the same time, the commercial
use of the backbone was forbidden (minimizing telcos having to worry
about loosing all their commercial "use charges"). past NSF email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet
and posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet
Then in the very late 80s and early 90s, gov. agencies started to mandate the elimination of TCP/IP (and internetworking) and move to OSI (with telco institutional centric paradigm).
Of course it didn't quite work out that way ... but they have constantly trying to move back to institution centric controlled operation.
Part of the "compensating processes" .... was dealing with business trouble call desks for payment transactions ... moving to the internet. They had standard of 5mins elapsed time for 1st level problem determination ... starting with various circuit-based analysis diagnostics.
One of the original large scale pilot project (retailer that advertised during NFL halftime games), there was trouble call ... that spent 3hrs of intensive trouble desk time and eventually closed with NTF (no trouble found). I had to create a whole bunch of stuff to provide them with the equivalent of their circuit-based diagnostics in a packet-based environment (and try and meet 5min 1st level problem determination).
past posts mentioning moving circuit-based operation to packet-based
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm5.htm#asrn3 Assurance, e-commerce, and some x9.59 ... fyi
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm16.htm#20 Ousourced Trust (was Re: Difference between TCPA-Hardware and a smart card and something else before
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm23.htm#21 Reliable Connections Are Not
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm26.htm#53 The One True Identity -- cracks being examined, filled, and rotted out from the inside
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000g.html#50 Egghead cracked, MS IIS again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002f.html#24 Computers in Science Fiction
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003g.html#62 IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#15 A Dark Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003p.html#37 The BASIC Variations
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#8 Mars Rover Not Responding
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#51 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#52 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#53 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#57 high speed network, cross-over from sci.crypt
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#30 Data communications over telegraph circuits
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005o.html#24 is a computer like an airport?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006i.html#29 Which entry of the routing table was selected?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#10 The top 10 dead (or dying) computer skills
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#15 What if phone company had developed Internet?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#23 Outsourcing loosing steam?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#25 LAX IT failure: leaps of faith don't work
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#34 what does xp do when system is copying
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#54 Industry Standard Time To Analyze A Line Of Code
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#53 folklore indeed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#37 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#63 To what extent do IP networks meet the stringent requirements of High Availability (HA) where the target performance is 99.999%? What performance is obtained in practice
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#33 IBM touts encryption innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#31 comp.arch has made itself a sitting duck for spam
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#41 Follow up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#62 TV Big Bang 10/12/09
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#66 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#61 A computer at home?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#23 Commentary--time to build a more secure Internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#27 History of Mainframe Cloud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#21 Pre-internet email and usenet (was Re: How to choose the best news server for this newsgroup in 40tude Dialog?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#38 Trump to sign cyber security orde
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: A flaw in the design; The Internet's founders saw its promise but didn't foresee users attacking one another Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 05 May 2017 14:24:51 -0700hancock4 writes:
the ibm cambridge science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
port apl\360 to cp/67-cms for apl\cms ... fixed garbage collection for large (multi-mbyte) virtual paged storage (had been created for 16kbyte swapped workspaces) and added API support of calling system services (including file read/write) ... allowing lots of real-word applications.
One such was the business planning group in Armonk hdqtrs, which loaded the most prized corporate data (detailed customer info) on the system and used APL\CMS to do business modeling (remotely from Armonk).
Now this required some amount of security since the science center had lots of non-ibm employees from local univ, like BU & MIT ... including students.
internal network (originated at the science center) was larger than
arpanet/internet from just about beginning until sometime mid-80s
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
one of the requirements was that all links (physically leaving datacenter bldg) had to have link encryptors. In the mid-80s, one of the major vendors said that the internal network had more than half of all the link encryptors in the world ... this created lots of conflict with various governments ... especially when links crossed national boundaries.
... at the time of the internet/arpanet great change-over to
internetworking on 1jan1983, the internet/arpanet had approx. 100 IMP
network nodes (and 255 connected hosts) ... at time when the internal
network was rapidly approaching 1000 nodes ... past post with
list of corporate locations that added one or more network nodes
during 1983
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#8
trivia: in the 70s while I was at the science center, IBM hired a new CSO that used to be gov. employee (at one time had been head of presidential detail) and I was asked to run around with him visiting IBM locations and talk about computer security (and I learned a little about physical security).
can't just criticize univ. environment. There has been recent threads about gov. cyberdumb ... adversaries dancing through "secure" networks gathering all sort classified information ... including detailed specification & design for major military weapons.
When former AMEX president leaves IBM ... he goes to head up major
private equity company that will acquire the beltway bandit that will
employ Snowden. Last decade there was enormous uptic in
gov. outsourcing to for-profit companies ... especially private-equity
subsidiaries (including 70% of the intelligence budget and over half
the employees)
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
private equity companies are under intense pressure to cut corners and
provide money to their parents nearly any way possible, example
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/business/economy/05simmons.html?_r=0
Security clearances outsourced to private-equity subsidiaries were found to be filling out the paperwork, but not actually doing the background investigations.
In the wake of the Snowden incident they head of the agency announces something about (re-)instituting(?) multi-party for sensitive operations (like sysadm/root privileges) as countermeasure to insider threats (something that was standard practice in the industry by at least the 80s and presumably also the gov).
private-equity posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity
past cyberdumb posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#3 Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#47 Stolen F-35 Secrets Now Showing Up in China's Stealth Fighter
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#49 Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#0 Deep State: Inside the Government Secrecy Industry
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#32 The dark side of digital banking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#82 The NSA and Snowden: Securing the All-Seeing Eye
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#90 A Drone Could Be the Ultimate Dogfighter
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#18 After the Sun (Microsystems) Sets, the Real Stories Come Out
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#25 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#31 The Designer Of The F-15 Explains Just How Stupid The F-35 Is
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#49 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#90 Friden Flexowriter equipment series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#12 Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#20 US No Longer Tech Leader in Military War Gear
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#22 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#23 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#28 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#34 UN to Five Eyes nations: Your mass surveillance is breaking the law
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#65 New Military Gear Doesn't Have to Cost a Fortune
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#102 A-10 Warthog No Longer Suitable for Middle East Combat, Air Force Leader Says
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#8 Super Cane's Computers run Windows
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#32 Univac 90 series info posted on bitsavers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#43 Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#45 Is coding the new literacy?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#76 No Internet. No Microsoft Windows. No iPods. This Is What Tech Was Like In 1984
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#6 No Internet. No Microsoft Windows. No iPods. This Is What Tech Was Like In 1984
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#10 NYT on Sony hacking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#11 NYT on Sony hacking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#55 Do we really?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#75 How Russia's S-400 makes the F-35 obsolete
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#9 Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#20 Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#21 Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#34 The joy of simplicity?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#42 No, the F-35 Can't Fight at Long Range, Either
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#75 American Gripen: The Solution To The F-35 Nightmare
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#4 Cyberdumb
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#8 Cyberdumb
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#19 Does Cybercrime Really Cost $1 Trillion?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#20 DEC and The Americans
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#91 Computers anyone?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#95 Computers anyone?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#17 Cybercrime
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#38 [BBC] US nuclear force 'still uses floppy disks'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#104 E.R. Burroughs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#104 How to Win the Cyberwar Against Russia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#17 Why Large Companies Can't Innovate
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#0 Snowden
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#28 China's spies gain valuable US defense technology: report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#40 The F-22 Raptor Is the World's Best Fighter (And It Has a Secret Weapon That Is Out in the Open)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#67 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#76 The F-35 Stealth Fighter Is Politically Unstoppable----Even Under President Trump
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#62 Big Shrink to "Hire" 25,000 in the US, as Layoffs Pile Up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#15 China's claim it has 'quantum' radar may leave $17 billion F-35 naked
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#34 CBS News: WikiLeaks claims to release thousands of CIA documents of computer activity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#47 WikiLeaks CIA Dump: Washington's Data Security Is a Mess
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 07:46:54 -0700Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
more recent in how language shapes how things are thought about
Language shapes how the brain perceives time
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2017-05/lu-lsh050217.php
if it works for times, the implication is language also affects how brain perceives (& deals with) other concepts as well.
past posts referencing proficiency in programming language similar to
proficiency in naturual language (thinking/dreaming in the language
rather than say thinking in english ... and having to translate to
programming language).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/93.html#11 Where did the hacker ethic go?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#64 Programming in School (was: Re: Common uses...)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#39 Wrapping up the FBEMBA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#39 Compressing the OODA-Loop - Removing the D (and maybe even an O)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#74 Time to competency for new software language?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#48 Is coding the new literacy?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#49 Ada's fate
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#65 Is coding the new literacy?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#118 By the time we get to 'O' in OODA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#55 Do we really?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 08:20:12 -0700"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
old reference to holy grail of programming is programming language that makes handling parallel processing simple/easy for majority of programmers (ceo of m'soft telling Intel senior VP to stop with the multi-core stuff and go back to making increasingly fast single processors ... because parallel programming was "too hard").
old post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#77 Sizing CPU
Microsoft super sizes multi-threaded tripe
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/01/mundie_mundie/
from above:
Microsoft, to its credit, has multi-threaded the calculations in Office
Excel 2007. But that's about where the credit ends.
Intel and AMD executives fail to hide their disappointment with
Microsoft well on the multi-threaded software front.
During a speech last June, Intel SVP Pat Gelsinger said the following:
"A couple of years ago, I had a discussion with Bill Gates (about the
multi-core products). He was just in disbelief. He said, 'We can't write
software to keep up with that.'"
Gates ordered the Intel executive to keep pumping out faster product.
"No, Bill, it's not going to work that way," Gelsinger informed him.
... snip ...
other old threads
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#78 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#24 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#26 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#34 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#38 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#60 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#63 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#2 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#5 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#13 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#14 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#19 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#22 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#26 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#29 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#36 Future of System/360 architecture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#37 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#39 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#49 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#51 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#52 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#53 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#54 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#58 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#59 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#61 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#70 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#1 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#3 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#6 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#25 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#28 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#38 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#39 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#42 Panic in Multicore Land
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#15 Why do people say "the soda loop is often depicted as a simple loop"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#44 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#90 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#28 I.B.M. Mainframe Evolves to Serve the Digital World
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#48 New HD
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#85 Parallel programming may not be so daunting
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#118 By the time we get to 'O' in OODA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#56 Which Books Can You Recommend For Learning Computer Programming?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#60 Which Books Can You Recommend For Learning Computer Programming?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#48 The ICL 2900
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 08:42:20 -0700Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
from posting today:
I just tested a Pascal/VS program from 1991, which translates TABU
reports (a RPG like language from the polish ODRA computer) to COBOL
programs.
The program ran without change successfully on Windows; it only took me
5 minutes to set up a CMD file to do the file assignments etc.; see the
CMD file below. The resulting COBOL program was identical to old COBOL
results from 1991 - no difference; this is remarkable, because the
original program ran on VM/CMS using the EBCDIC codepage and the IBM
Pascal/VS compiler - and todays run was on Windows, using the New
Stanford Pascal compiler, and ASCII.
... snip ...
other recent posts mentioning pascal/vs (or vs/pascal):
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#53 COBOL and POSIX pipes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#58 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#60 [EXTERNAL] ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#32 The very beginning of TCP/IP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#72 more IBM online systems
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#17 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#18 [CM] What was your first home computer?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 08:52:49 -0700re:
and from: "The beauty of runtime checks in Stanford Pascal"
https://www.facebook.com/notes/new-stanford-pascal-compiler/the-beauty-of-runtime-checks-in-stanford-pascal/375317846185196/
I would like to emphasize that it is not me who invented this; the
honour of course belongs to the original authors of the compiler and (in
this case) the P-Code translator, who invented this kind of runtime
check. I only recently optimized the ASSEMBLER listing and, BTW,
introduced an error here, and, by repairing it, analyzed and unterstood
the technique used here.
...
This is almost 40 years old compiler technology, but in my opinion it is
very interesting and still relevant today.
... snip ...
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Why Your Brain Loves You Not Having a Boss, According to Science Date: 06 May 2017 Blog: FacebookWhy Your Brain Loves You Not Having a Boss, According to Science
"Your brain works completely differently when you're able to direct yourself versus when someone else is directing you"
Somewhat related xcover from AI thread
There is also language affects perception/understanding ... recent
reference: Language shapes how the brain perceives time
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2017-05/lu-lsh050217.php
and concept that programmers can achieve proficiency/fluency in
computer language analogous to natural language (where they
think/dream in the language). Some number of "bugs" can occur by less
proficient programmers in translating from some (natural) language to
programming language (translating from one conceptual frame of
reference/framework to a different one). recent thread
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#51 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#52 [CM] What was your first home computer?
fingerspitzengefuhl and Coup d'oeil ... sometimes "intuition"
... thinking/conceptualizing in non-natural language, recent refs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#49 Strategy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#59 Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#62 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#10 Boyd OODA-loop Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#14 New words, language, metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#84 We Use Words to Talk. Why Do We Need Them to Think?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#14 Rogue sysadmins the target of Microsoft's new 'Shielded VM' security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#24 US Air Power
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#33 OODA-loop and virtual machines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#79 Defense Meltdown
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#4 OODA in IT Security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#7 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#73 Note on dis-orientation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#55 60 Minutes interview with Grace Hopper
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: A flaw in the design; The Internet's founders saw its promise but didn't foresee users attacking one another Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 19:39:57 -0700hancock4 writes:
in the case of the intelligence community ... there was enormous uptic in outsourcing last decade ... especially to private-equity subsidiaries (including beltway bandits being bought up by large private-equity firms).
Law prohibits gov. agencies from lobbying congress, and gov. contractors can't spend money from gov. contracts to lobby congress (beltway bandits with gov. only source of income) ... however, private-equity owners are free to spend as much money as they want to on congress.
It also contributed to rapid spreading success of failure
culture by "for profit" companies (especially private-equity
subsidiaries) ... make more money from sequence of failures
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/
congress has huge motivation for appropriating funds to companies that in turn, provide money back to congress.
note besides the snowden affair and a few others (employed by
private-equity subsidiaries) ... the OPM breach also involved a
private-equity subsidiary.
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/06/24/opm-contractor-veritas/
and
https://fcw.com/articles/2015/06/24/house-oversight-opm.aspx
success of failure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failuree
private equity posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity
folklore ... one excuse put forward for the outsourcing was that top
level technology salaries had increased to the point that it would put
several thousands gov. positions at level requiring congressional
approval ... exceeding available congressional time available. recent
ref
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#25 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#75 ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches
It was easier for congress to appropriate tens/hundreds of billions in outsourced contracts than to approve several thousand individual gov. employees.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 07 May 2017 09:18:36 -0700jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
One of the things was some relatively straight-forward (highly optimized) cp67 kernel code with branches (goto), could turn into (complex) if/then/else nested 10-15 levels deep ... and much harder to understand.
the issue with branch/goto ... was after failure, trying to reconstruct
execution path and how things got to the failure point (program
forensics) ... especially if likely involved incorrect set register
values. past posts mentioning redoing IPCS dump analysis program in
REX(X)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dumprx
trivia: very early 70s, there was IBM technical conference at the old
DC/arlington marriott (just off end of bridge on virginia side, no
longer exists) with the IBM FSD guy doing superprogrammer and goto-less.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#20 How many Megaflops and when?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#24 How many Megaflops and when?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#25 How many Megaflops and when?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000c.html#64 Does the word "mainframe" still have a meaning?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#48 Whom Do Programmers Admire Now???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#49 CDC6600 - just how powerful a machine was it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#51 windows office xp
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003g.html#2 Share in DC: was somethin' else
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#40 Share lunch/dinner?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004k.html#25 Timeless Classics of Software Engineering
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004k.html#26 Timeless Classics of Software Engineering
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#51 Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#19 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#1 3270 response & channel throughput
past posts mentioning PLI program doing 360/370 assembler analysis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#12 360 "OS" & "TSS" assemblers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000c.html#41 Domainatrix - the final word
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#36 Assembly language formatting on IBM systems
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#8 "Clean" CISC (was Re: McKinley Cometh...)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004d.html#21 REXX still going strong after 25 years
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004k.html#36 Vintage computers are better than modern crap !
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#35 Shipwrecks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005b.html#16 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#72 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#52 Where should the type information be?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#45 IBM's POWER6
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006e.html#32 transputers again was: The demise of Commodore
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#1 Greatest Software Ever Written?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#24 A Day For Surprises (Astounding Itanium Tricks)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#53 Is the teaching of non-reentrant HLASM coding practices ever defensible?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#31 To RISC or not to RISC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#32 To RISC or not to RISC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#41 Is this true? (Were gotos really *that* bad?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#21 "The Elements of Programming Style"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#35 "The Elements of Programming Style"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#64 IBM System/360 DOS still going strong as Z/VSE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#48 Translation of IBM Basic Assembler to C?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#57 Translation of IBM Basic Assembler to C?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#30 Old-school programming techniques you probably don't miss
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#43 Old-school programming techniques you probably don't miss
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#32 Old-school programming techniques you probably don't miss
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#65 You know you've been Lisp hacking to long when
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#37 Language first, hardware second
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#49 "How do you feel about 'gotos'"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#69 [Poll] Computing favorities
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#24 You thought IEFBR14 was bad? Try GNU's /bin/true code
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#25 Is it a lost cause?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#97 ABO Automatic Binary Optimizer
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: A flaw in the design; The Internet's founders saw its promise but didn't foresee users attacking one another Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 07 May 2017 09:51:55 -0700jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
trivia from long ago and far away, gone 404, but lives on at
wayback machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20090117083033/http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtml
Note: i didn't have security clearance, but some would show up at computer/security classes I would teach periodically.
folklore form around 1980, the agency wanted exact source for a specific executing MVS (for evaluation). IBM spent $5M researching the issue and eventually came back and said that it wasn't practical.
Multics was on the (5th) flr above (from science center on 4th flr) and
sold some number into gov. agencies. One of the customers was AFDS,
https://www.multicians.org/mga.html#AFDSC
old email about AFDS planning on coming by and discussing getting 20
4341s, when they got around to coming by, it had increased to 210 4341s.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#email790404
a.f.c. posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#12 Multics Nostalgia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#15 departmental servers
other sites
https://www.multicians.org/sites.html
including
https://www.multicians.org/mgd.html#DOCKMASTER
https://www.multicians.org/mgs.html#SiteN
IBM required link encryptors on all links leaving company facilities,
middle 80s, major vendor claimed the internal network had half of all
link encryptors in the world.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
I had project HSDT with T1 & faster speed links
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
... and didn't like what I had to pay for T1 link encryptors and higher
speed link encryptors were almost impossible to find ... so I got
involved doing link encryptor with objective of less than $100 to make
and would handle multiple mbytes/sec. Initially the company crypto group
said that it significantly weakened the crypto standard. It took me
3months to figure out how to explain that it actually was significantly
stronger than the crypto standard ... but it was hollow victory. I was
then told that there was only one organization in the world that could
use such crypto, I could make as many as I wanted, but they all would
have to be sent to location in Maryland. It was when I realized ther was
three kinds of crypto in the world; 1) the kind they don't care about,
2) the kind you can't do, 3) the kind you can only do for them. past
posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#87 New test attempt
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#86 Own a piece of the crypto wars
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#32 Getting Out Hard Drive in Real Old Computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#27 Favourite computer history books?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#43 Internet Evolution - Part I: Encryption basics
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#20 TELSTAR satellite experiment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#60 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#0 We list every company in the world that has a mainframe computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#63 ARPANET's coming out party: when the Internet first took center stage
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#85 Key Escrow from a Safe Distance: Looking back at the Clipper Chip
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#63 Reject gmail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#70 Operating System, what is it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#47 T-carrier
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#31 The Vindication of Barb
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#69 The failure of cyber defence - the mindset is against it
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#77 German infosec agency warns against Trusted Computing in Windows 8
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#88 NSA and crytanalysis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#10 "NSA foils much internet encryption"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#50 Secret contract tied NSA and security industry pioneer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#9 NSA seeks to build quantum computer that could crack most types of encryption
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#7 Last Gasp for Hard Disk Drives
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#25 Is there any MF shop using AWS service?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#27 TCP/IP Might Have Been Secure From the Start If Not For the NSA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#54 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#77 No Internet. No Microsoft Windows. No iPods. This Is What Tech Was Like In 1984
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#85 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#2 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#39 GM to offer teen driver tracking to parents
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#3 PROFS & GML
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#101 Internal Network, NSFNET, Internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#31 How the internet was invented
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#106 How to Win the Cyberwar Against Russia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#0 Snowden
some past refs referencing agency
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#25 virtual machines for security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003l.html#20 Secure OS Thoughts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005k.html#30 Public disclosure of discovered vulnerabilities
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005k.html#35 Determining processor status without IPIs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#0 Article: The True Value of Mainframe Security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005s.html#23 winscape?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005s.html#44 winscape?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#36 Mainframe Applications and Records Keeping?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#37 Mainframe Applications and Records Keeping?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#51 Channel Distances
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#11 Some credible documented evidence that a MVS or later op sys has ever been hacked
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#14 Security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#2 The System/360 Model 20 Wasn't As Bad As All That
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#3 Not Your Dad's Mainframe: Little Iron
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#52 the more things change, the more things stay the same
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#0 Patent buster for a method that increases password security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#6 GCN at 25: VAX for the memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#13 The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#31 Wylbur and Paging
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#20 Does anyone know of a documented case of VM being penetrated by hackers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#48 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#38 It's No Secret: VMware to Develop Secure Systems for NSA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#47 Translation of IBM Basic Assembler to C?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#57 folklore indeed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#4 folklore indeed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#60 Job ad for z/OS systems programmer trainee
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#32 Interesting Mainframe Article: 5 Myths Exposed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#67 Virtualization's security threats
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#68 Virtualization's security threats
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#26 CA ESD files Options
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#58 Virtualization: History repeats itself with a search for security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#46 Whitehouse Emails Were Lost Due to "Upgrade"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#74 Microsoft versus Digital Equipment Corporation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#81 Microsoft versus Digital Equipment Corporation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#62 German court finds Bank responsible for malwared PC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#40 IBM--disposition of clock business
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#68 New technology trends?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#30 Macs for security (now, with new improved NSA hardening tips!)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#47 Virtualization Adopters Hit The Tipping Point
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#67 Invitation to Join Mainframe Security Guru Group
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#42 Password Rules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#62 Virtualization: What is it exactly?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#9 Comprehensive security?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#65 Did you think about Virtualization Security?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#5 Is SUN going to become x86'ed ??
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#45 Security experts identify 25 coding errors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#49 The 25 Most Dangerous Programming Errors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#56 Data losses set to soar
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#6 ATMs At Risk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#11 Lack of bit field instructions in x86 instruction set because of ?patents ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#18 System/360 Announcement (7Apr64)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#33 greenbar
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#24 Top 10 Cybersecurity Threats for 2009, will they cause creation of highly-secure Corporate-wide Intranets?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#38 Top 10 Cybersecurity Threats for 2009, will they cause creation of highly-secure Corporate-wide Intranets?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#11 China deploys secure computer operating system
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#24 IBM security expert: X86 virtualization not ready for regulated, mission-critical apps
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#22 My Vintage Dream PC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#77 More named/shared systems
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#5 Moving to the Net: Encrypted Execution for User Code on a Hosting Site
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#31 Disksize history question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#3 Hacker charges also an indictment on PCI, expert says
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#12 33 Years In IT/Security/Audit
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#39 Status of Arpanet/Internet in 1976?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#33 U.S. house decommissions its last mainframe, saves $730,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#38 U.S. house decommissions its last mainframe, saves $730,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#21 Is Cloud Computing Old Hat?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#47 Is C close to the machine?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#56 Crypto dongles to secure online transactions ... addenda
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#59 EU agency runs rule over ID cards for online banking logins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#68 360 programs on a z/10
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#63 Source code for s/360 [PUBLIC]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#97 "The Naked Mainframe" (Forbes Security Article)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#62 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#59 More calumny: "Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#74 Is Security a Curse for the Cloud Computing Industry?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#9 Far and near pointers on the 80286 and later
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#40 someone smarter than Dave Cutler
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#53 Far and near pointers on the 80286 and later
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#17 Personal use z/OS machines was Re: Multiprise 3k for personal Use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#61 Information on obscure text editors wanted
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#37 Mainframe Hacking -- Fact or Fiction
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#73 Mainframe hacking?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#77 ZeuS attacks mobiles in bank SMS bypass scam
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#19 Virtualization: Making Seductive Promises a Reality
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#26 Global Sourcing with Cloud Computing and Virtualization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#1 origin of 'fields'?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#13 Sandboxing: Understanding System Containment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#34 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#73 From OODA to AAADA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#18 Plug Your Data Leaks from the inside
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#35 VMSHARE Archives
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#15 545 Tech Square
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#86 Utility of find single set bit instruction?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#15 History of copy on write
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#66 Boeing Plant 2 ... End of an Era
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#78 RISCversus CISC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#79 A History of VM Performance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#8 Security flaws in software development
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#23 Fear the Internet, was Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#24 Fear the Internet, was Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#61 z/OS System Programmer Needed East Coast
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#5 Robert Morris, man who helped develop Unix, dies at 78
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#7 Innovation and iconoclasm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#10 Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#29 It's Cool To Be Clever
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#35 How old is the oldest email in your current email inbox?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#50 ISBNs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#15 1979 SHARE LSRAD Report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#61 Hybrid computing -- from mainframe to virtualization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#75 VM sysprogs don't need the keys to the door locks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#47 You Don't Need a Cyber Attack to Take Down The North American Power Grid
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#49 Do you know where all your sensitive data is located?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#59 A computer metaphor for systems integration
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#2 What are the implication of the ongoing cyber attacks on critical infrastructure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#54 Open source and the National Security Agency, together again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#73 Interesting News Article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#44 Simulated PDP-11 Blinkenlight front panel for SimH
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#6 Operating System, what is it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#98 Gordon Crovitz: Who Really Invented the Internet?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#1 Gordon Crovitz: Who Really Invented the Internet?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#64 Guest Post: Beakley on Boyd, Aerial Combat and the OODA-Loop
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#63 Is it possible to hack mainframe system??
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#22 What is a Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#28 Some interesting post about the importance of Security and what it means for the Mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#79 Still not convinced about the superiority of mainframe security vs distributed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#61 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#19 What Makes sorting so cool?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#15 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#19 It was 30 Years Ago Today
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#51 Search for first Web page takes detour into US
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#10 EBCDIC and the P-Bit
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#63 Making mainframe technology hip again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#3 A Brief History of Cloud Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#19 A Brief History of Cloud Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#38 Quote on Slashdot.org
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#69 PDCA vs. OODA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#20 Why IBM chose MS-DOS, was Re: 'Free Unix!' made30yearsagotoday
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#58 The CIA's new "family jewels": Going back to Church?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#103 Microsoft publishes MS-DOS, Word for Windows source code
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#36 Semi-OT: Government snooping was Re: Is there any MF shop using AWS service?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#95 Is end of mainframe near ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#40 Named Memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#54 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#11 360/85
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#15 Do we really need 64-bit addresses or is 48-bit enough?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#35 BBC News - Microsoft fixes '19-year-old' bug with emergency patch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#60 The Road Not Taken: Knowing When to Keep Your Mouth Shut
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#39 Virtual Memory Management
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#57 The Stack Depth
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#11 The real story of how the Internet became so vulnerable
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#50 The joy of simplicity?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#54 Mainframes open to internet attacks?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#81 DEC and The Americans
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#63 Qbasic - lies about Medicare
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#40 The real story of how the Internet became so vulnerable
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#69 Open DoD's Doors To Cyber Talent, Carter Asks Congress
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#95 Is it a lost cause?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#40 Misc. Success of Failure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#33 OODA-loop and virtual machines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#4 OODA in IT Security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#21 History of Mainframe Cloud
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 07 May 2017 10:12:47 -0700Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> writes:
One day the IBM salesman came by and asked him what he was doing. He said that he was adding ethernet support to vm370 to support SGI workstations. The salesman told him that he should do token-ring support instead or mainframe service calls wouldn't be handled in such timely matter. I then get a call and need to listen to an hour of four letter words. The next morning the company has a press conference announcing they were moving off IBM mainframe to SUN workstations.
IBM then has corporate wide task force looking at how to keep VLSI industry on IBM mainframes and why they might leave ... strictly limited to only considering purely technical details ... and not allowed to consider the (real) non-technical reasons.
old post looking for 5.25in diskette drive, wanting to image
a bunch of old 5.25in diskettes ... somebody sends me a diskette
drive, i'm able to read most of diskettes and upload them
to some repository
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#35 Turbo C 1.5 (1987)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#36 Turbo C 1.5 (1987)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#37 Turbo C 1.5 (1987)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#56 Turbo C 1.5 (1987)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#57 Turbo C 1.5 (1987)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#4 Turbo C 1.5 (1987)
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: The Illusion Of Victory: America In World War I Date: 07 May 2017 Blog: FacebookThe Illusion Of Victory: America In World War I
The members of congress responsible for the neutrality laws leading up to WW2 said they did it because of the enormous war profiteering they saw in WW1 ... it was the war profiteers that were spinning it as isolationism.
author was congressman during first couple decades leading up to WW1,
"Triumphant plutocracy" loc6265-74:
XXX. THE LEAGUE TO PERPETUATE WAR The war has just begun. I said that
when the Armistice terms were published and when I read the Treaty and
the League Covenant I felt more than ever convinced of the justice of
my conclusion. The Treaty of Versailles is merely an armistice -- a
suspension of hostilities, while the combatants get their wind. There
is a war in every chapter of the Treaty and in every section of the
League Covenant; war all over the world; war without end so long as
the conditions endure which produce these documents.
... snip ...
and there is "Smedley Butler"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler
with "War Is a Racket"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket
John Foster Dulles was major force in rebuilding Germany's industry
and military during the 20s & 30s (from the law of unintended
consequences, when the 1943 US Strategic Bombing Program needed
locations of German industry and military targets, they got the
coordinates from wallstreet)
https://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Foster-Dulles-Allen-Secret-ebook/dp/B00BY5QX1K/
loc865-68:
In mid-1931 a consortium of American banks, eager to safeguard their
investments in Germany, persuaded the German government to accept a
loan of nearly $500 million to prevent default. Foster was their
agent. His ties to the German government tightened after Hitler took
power at the beginning of 1933 and appointed Foster's old friend
Hjalmar Schacht as minister of economics.
loc905-7:
Foster was stunned by his brother's suggestion that Sullivan &
Cromwell quit Germany. Many of his clients with interests there,
including not just banks but corporations like Standard Oil and
General Electric, wished Sullivan & Cromwell to remain active
regardless of political conditions.
loc938-40:
At least one other senior partner at Sullivan & Cromwell, Eustace
Seligman, was equally disturbed. In October 1939, six weeks after the
Nazi invasion of Poland, he took the extraordinary step of sending
Foster a formal memorandum disavowing what his old friend was saying
about Nazism
... snip ...
June1940, Germany had a victory celebration at the NYC Waldorf-Astoria
with major industrialists. Lots of them were there to hear how to do
business with the Nazis (and circumvent the neutrality laws)
https://www.amazon.com/Man-Called-Intrepid-Incredible-Narrative-ebook/dp/B00V9QVE5O/
Later 5000 industrialists from across the US had conference (also) at
NYC Waldorf-Astoria and in part because they had gotten such bad
reputation for the depression and supporting Nazi Germany, they
approved a major propaganda campaign to equate capitalism with
Christianity, in part, in the early 50s, it leads to "In God We Trust"
on money and "under God" in the allegiance.
https://www.amazon.com/One-Nation-Under-God-Corporate-ebook/dp/B00PWX7R56/
perpetual war posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
military-industrial(-congressional) complex posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Typesetting Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 08 May 2017 09:17:10 -0700andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) writes:
other recent
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#41 What are mainframes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#76 Mainframe operating systems
more references
http://www.cap-lore.com/Agorics/Library/KeyKos/Gnosis/keywelcome.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EROS_(microkernel)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOSIS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CapROS
http://www.capros.org/
Future System moved lots into the hardware ... one of the nails in the
coffin was analysis that if Eastern's "System One" (ACP, airline control
program) running on 370/195, if moved to the fastest possible FS box
... it would have throughput of 370/145 (about 30 times slow down).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
Folklore is that some of the FS people retreated to Rochester and did a much simplifieed FS as S/38 (for low end market that had much fewer issues with throughput).
About the time (1975) I was asked to work on ECPS microcode assist for
370 138/148 (moving selected kernel code segments into microcode),
recent refs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#46 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#48 [CM] What was your first home computer?
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#21 370 ECPS VM microcode assist
I also got con'ed into working on 5-way SMP 370/125. some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#bounce
where I put even more into m'code ... basically all of ECPS ... but also queued task (dispatch) interface (akin to later i432) and queued I/O interface (superset of 370/xa) ... both had machine/hardware pulling elements off todo queue and putting things on completed queued interface.
Asilomar ACM SIGOPS (81 or 83?) conference, i432 people gave
presentation about one of their major problems ... these complex,
high-level functions were being done directly in silicon ... and
every time they had a bug, they had to fab new silicon. for the 5-way SMP
370/125, it was all microcode ... so it was effectively as shipping new
software release (possibly even simpler to install new microcode boot
diskette). part of intro from iAPX 432 Architecture, references s/38 and
burroughs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#48 Famous Machines and Software that didn't
other posts mentioning i432
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#57 iAPX-432 (was: 36 to 32 bit transition
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#62 iAPX-432 (was: 36 to 32 bit transition
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#6 Ridiculous
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#36 What was object oriented in iAPX432?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#27 iAPX432 today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#46 IBM Mainframe at home
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#19 Computer Architectures
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002o.html#5 Anyone here ever use the iAPX432 ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#54 Reviving Multics
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003m.html#23 Intel iAPX 432
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003m.html#24 Intel iAPX 432
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003m.html#47 Intel 860 and 960, was iAPX 432
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#52 Infiniband - practicalities for small clusters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#60 Will multicore CPUs have identical cores?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#64 Will multicore CPUs have identical cores?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#73 Athlon cache question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#64 Misuse of word "microcode"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005k.html#46 Performance and Capacity Planning
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#31 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#47 IBM 610 workstation computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#42 Why is zSeries so CPU poor?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#44 Any resources on VLIW?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#15 "25th Anniversary of the Personal Computer"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#7 32 or even 64 registers for x86-64?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#36 Oracle Introduces Oracle VM As It Leaps Into Virtualization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#54 Throwaway cores
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#32 CPU time differences for the same job
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#22 CLIs and GUIs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#52 Lack of bit field instructions in x86 instruction set because of patents ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#13 Microprocessors with Definable MIcrocode
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#18 Microprocessors with Definable MIcrocode
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#46 U.S. begins inquiry of IBM in mainframe market
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#74 Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#1 IA64
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#45 IA64
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#8 Far and near pointers on the 80286 and later
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#40 Faster image rotation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#22 Personal use z/OS machines was Re: Multiprise 3k for personal Use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#7 RISCversus CISC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#91 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#79 Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#2 68000 assembly language programming
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#15 Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#42 i432 on Bitsavers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#14 International Business Marionette
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#57 1132 printer history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#40 history of Programming language and CPU in relation to each other
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#33 Delay between idea and implementation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#75 Bloat
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#23 1950: Northrop's Digital Differential Analyzer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#107 IBM 360/85 vs. 370/165
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#62 PL/I advertising
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#63 PL/I advertising
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#115 IBM History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#38 British socialism / anti-trust
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 08 May 2017 10:13:00 -0700jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
as undergraduate in the 60s, worked on clone (of communication group)
controller ... and four of us got written up as responsible for (some
part of) clone controller business.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#360pcm
this has reference that major motivation in Future System was to make
host/controller interface so complex that it would significantly
"raise the bar" for clone controller competition
http://www.ecole.org/en/session/49-the-rise-and-fall-of-ibm
some speculation that the complex SNA vtam/37x5ncp (pu5/pu4) interface
was one of the few survivors of failed FS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
trivia ... during the early days of formation of SNA ... my wife was
co-author of AWP39, peer-to-peer networking architecture ... aka they
had to included "peer-to-peer" ... because communication group had
co-opted "network" as part of SNA ... which doesn't have a network
layer. Later she was con'ed into going to POK to be in charge of
loosely-coupled (mainframe for cluster) architecture ... where she
developed Peer-Coupled Shared Data architecture ... she didn't remain
long, one reason was constant battle with communication group trying
her to force her into using SNA/VTAM for loosely-coupled operation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#shareddata
from the law of unintended consequences ... during FS they were shutting down 370 efforts ... and the lack of 370 offerings during the FS period is credited with giving market foothold for clone processors.
in the 80s, recent posts about working NSF director about
interconnecting the NSF supercomputer centers ... as regional networks
connect into the centers, it grows into NSFNET backbone, precursor to
modern internet:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#10 Encryp-xit: Europe will go all in for crypto backdoors in June
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#32 The very beginning of TCP/IP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#11 The Geniuses that Anticipated the Idea of the Internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#14 The Geniuses that Anticipated the Idea of the Internet
old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet
and posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet
communication group was increasing vigorously fighting off client/server and distributed computing ... attempting to preserve their dumb terminal paradigm and install base.
internally they were spreading all sorts of mis-information ... mis-information claims about needing to convert the internal network to SNA/VTAM ... and mis-information claims that SNA/VTAM could be used for NSFNET.
old email about the internal backbone meetings got restricted to
"management only" (didn't want technical details confusing their
SNA/VTAM objectives)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#email870302
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#email870306
somebody gathered up the communication group SNA/VTAM useable for
NSFNET misinformation email ... and forwarded to use ... heavily
snippted and redacted to prevent the guilty
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email870109
and as frequently mentioned the senior disk engineer that gave the
talk about how the communication group was going to be responsible for
the demise of disk division
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal
In the same time-frame as the claims about communication group was
going to be responsible for demise of disk division, my wife was
co-author of response to government request for large, distributed
super-secure government operation ... where she included 3-tier
architecture and middle layer. We were then out doing customer
executive presentations including 3-tier architecture (and taking all
sorts of arrows from the communication group)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#3tier
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 09 May 2017 09:06:33 -0700scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
little topic drift, discussion on decision to have add virtual memory
to all 370 machines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#73 Multiple Virtual Memory
IBM had Registered Confidential ... each page had large faded red number of the copy ... each copy was registered for specific person ... and required to keep under double lock ... and periodically audited by site security.
circa 1980, IBM brought trade-secret lawsuit against disk clone maker
for couple billion dollars ... for having acquired detailed
unannounced new (3380) disk drive documents. Judge ruled that IBM had
to show security proportional to risk ... or "security
proportional to value" ... i.e. temptation for normal person finding
something not adequately protected and taking it for money ...
couldn't be blamed (analogous to requiring fences around swimming
pools because children couldn't be expected to not jump in unprotected
pool). fences around plant site, guards at gate checking people,
access control for buildings, access control inside high security
rooms inside buildings, frequent employee education about protecting
corporate information, etc.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#security.proportional.to.risk
In that time frame, I had full set of all the "Registered Confidential" documents for unannounced/unshipped 370/xa architecture (which would eventually show up on 3081).
For some reason, I got a call from head hunter asking me to interview for job of technical assistant to president of clone 370 processor company (that resold machines manufactured on the other side of the pacific). During the interview there were hints dropped that they were interested in new 370/xa architecture. I politely mentioned that I had submitted changes to IBM Employee ethics booklet because I didn't think that it had strong enough ethics guidelines. The interview ended shortly later ... and I never heard from them again.
Later the overseas company was involved in federal court case about industrial espionage and because I was listed on the US company's lobby checkin, I had 3hr interview with FBI agent. Afterwards, I wondered who had leaked the information (that I had full copy of the XA documents) ... that likely resulted in the job interview.
past posts mentioning Registered Confidential
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001i.html#30 IBM OS Timeline?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#8 Security Proportional to Risk (was: IBM Mainframe at home)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#9 Security Proportional to Risk (was: IBM Mainframe at home)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005f.html#42 Moving assembler programs above the line
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005s.html#26 IEH/IEB/... names?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#20 Old PCs--environmental hazard
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#2 WHAT WAS THE PROJECT YOU WERE INVOLVED/PARTICIPATED AT IBM THAT YOU WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#12 Clone Processors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#61 Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#1 RSA 2014: Target Breach Has Bigger Impact on Data Security than Snowden, says Vormetric
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#27 Complete 360 and 370 systems found
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 09 May 2017 10:07:18 -0700scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
HITACHI GUILTY IN I.B.M. CASE
http://www.nytimes.com/1983/02/09/business/hitachi-guilty-in-ibm-case.html
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 09 May 2017 11:11:12 -0700Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
to vm/370-cms ... and I got a copy (including source), email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email780405
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email780405b
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#email780414
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#email780517
posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#44 Call for folklore - was Re: So it's cyclical.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#43 Hardest Mistake in Comp Arch to Fix
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#18 The History of Computer Role-Playing Games
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#4 Zork and Adventure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#6 Zork and Adventure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#14 New machine code
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#41 Colossal Cave Adventure in PL/I
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#96 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
a few (different) internal employees (independently) converted it from fortran to pli (and added more points).
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 09 May 2017 11:19:52 -0700Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
from wiki:
One of the first efforts to port the code was by Jim Gillogly of the
RAND Corporation in 1977. Gillogly, with agreement from Crowther and
Woods, spent several weeks porting the code to C to run on the more
generic Unix architecture. It can be found as part of the BSD Operating
Systems distributions, or as part of the "bsdgames" package under most
Linux distributions, under the command name "adventure". The game was
also ported to Prime Computer's super-mini running PRIMOS in the late
1970s, utilising FORTRAN IV, and to IBM mainframes running VM/CMS in
late 1978, utilizing PL/I. In the late 1970s a freeware Commodore PET
version was produced by Jim Butterfield; some years later this version
was ported to the Commodore 64. Microsoft also released versions of
Adventure in 1980 for the Apple II Plus and TRS-80 computers.
... snip ...
as per previous email, tymshare had it on vm/370-cms (fortran) by at least early 1978 ... and several employees almost immediately ported to pli, spring 1977.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 09 May 2017 11:42:30 -0700Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
I've mentioned a number of times in this thread that after the
failure of future system
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
3033 & 3081 (370/xa) were kicked off in parallel, some ref
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm
the 370/xa documents were referred to as "811" for their nov1978 publication date ... 370/xa ship was still several years in the future (mvs/xa wasn't even announced until 1981).
mentioning futuresys in this thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#18 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#25 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#46 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#62 [CM] What was your first home computer?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: I quit this NG Newsgroups: comp.arch Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 08:37:53 -0700Study uncovers how brain damage increases religious fundamentalism
we have friend that went into walter reed with five brain aneurysm ... and lived. He complained that his IQ dropped 70pts to only 130 ... but he also became quite religious ... that he recognized and complained about, but couldn't do anything.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: The knives are out for Trump's national security adviser H.R. McMaster Date: 11 May 2017 Blog: FacebookThe knives are out for Trump's national security adviser H.R. McMaster
just finished: Dereliction of Duty: Johnson, McNamara, the Joint
Chiefs of Staff
https://www.amazon.com/Dereliction-Duty-Johnson-McNamara-Chiefs-ebook/dp/
In "Dereliction of Duty", he referenced McNamara was statistician for
Army Air Corp during WW2, but doesn't refer to McNamara was LeMay's
staff planning fire bombing German & Japanese cities towards the end
(McNamara later quotes Lemay if US had lost ww2, they would have been
prosecuted for war crimes). He also references 4817-19:
Ball, a member of the American Strategic Bombing Survey team of
1944–45, which concluded that bombing had actually increased, rather
than decreased, the resolve of the German people, was familiar with
the inflated claims and expectations of air power enthusiasts
... aka one of the other issues was hard to hit target from 5-6 miles
up.
European Campaign, loc2582-85:
The bomber preparation of Omaha Beach was a total failure, and German
defenses on Omaha Beach were intact as American troops came ashore. At
Utah Beach, the bombers were a little more effective because the IXth
Bomber Command was using B-26 medium bombers. Wisely, in preparation
for supporting the invasion, maintenance crews removed Norden
bombsights from the bombers and installed the more effective low-level
altitude sights.
... fire bombing cities, nearly impossible not to hit something.
John Foster Dulles was major force in rebuilding Germany's industry
and military during the 20s & 30s (from the law of unintended
consequences, when the 1943 US Strategic Bombing program needed
locations of German industry and military targets, they got the
coordinates from wallstreet)
https://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Foster-Dulles-Allen-Secret-ebook/dp/B00BY5QX1K/
loc865-68:
In mid-1931 a consortium of American banks, eager to safeguard their
investments in Germany, persuaded the German government to accept a
loan of nearly $500 million to prevent default. Foster was their
agent. His ties to the German government tightened after Hitler took
power at the beginning of 1933 and appointed Foster's old friend
Hjalmar Schacht as minister of economics.
loc905-7:
Foster was stunned by his brother's suggestion that Sullivan &
Cromwell quit Germany. Many of his clients with interests there,
including not just banks but corporations like Standard Oil and
General Electric, wished Sullivan & Cromwell to remain active
regardless of political conditions.
loc938-40:
At least one other senior partner at Sullivan & Cromwell, Eustace
Seligman, was equally disturbed. In October 1939, six weeks after the
Nazi invasion of Poland, he took the extraordinary step of sending
Foster a formal memorandum disavowing what his old friend was saying
about Nazism
... snip ...
"perpetual war" posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
military-industrial(-congressional) complex posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Domain Name System Date: 11 May 2017 Blog: FacebookOne of he issues with the advent of PKI "SSL" digital certificates in the early 90s, was the burgeoning industry wanted to make a lot of money off it. The simplest DNSSEC scenario would be authenticating that the webserver you are talking to is the same webserver that registered the domain name (as countermeasure to things like "impersonating" and "man-in-the-middle" attacks). However, that would involve little or no any money ... there was a lot of smoke & mirrors about identifying/proving the webserver represents the organization that you believe it is ... inflating authentication to identification (periodic rant about confusing authentication and identification) as part of financial justification (even tho standard PKI company T&Cs typically disclaim any liability)
I was brought in as consultant into small client/server startup that wanted to do payment transactions on their server, they had also invented this technology they called "SSL" they wanted to use, it is now frequently called "electronic commerce". I had completely authority over the webserver to gateway to the payment networks ... but could only make recommendations on the client/server side, some of which were almost immediately violated, accounting from some number of exploits that continue to this day.
Original browser/SSL model is that the user understands the relationship between the URL they enter and the corresponding webserver entity they wish contact. "SSL" then (supposedly) provides the assurance that the webserver they contact corresponds to the URL they entered ... which combined, completes the end-to-end between the webserver they are talking to is the webserver that corresponds to the organization they think they are talking to.
This was almost immediately violated when merchants found that SSL cut their throughput by 90-99% and they dropped back to using non-SSL, unauthenticated URL (open to impersonation and man-in-the-middle attack). Then there is a "checkout/pay" button (provided by an unauthenticated website). Since the checkout/pay URL is no longer provided by the enduser, it breaks the underlying assumption underlying the browser/SSL model.
The PKI industry was also floating $20B/annum business case on
wallstreet, based on financial industry underwriting $100/year/person
certificate (200M people). When that wasn't happening, the industry
was heavily lobbying govs to mandate person digital certificates
... including the cal. state electronic signature act (disclaimer: I
was brought in to help wordsmith the act, possibly as countermeasure
to the PKI industry influence).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#signature
I had HSDT project in early 80s with T1 and faster speed links and was
working with director of NSF. We were suppose to get $20M to
interconnect the NSF supercomputer centers. Then congress cuts the
budget, some other things happen and finally NSF releases an RFP.
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/401444/grid-computing/
HSDT posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
Internal politics prevent us from bidding. The NSF director tries to
help by writing the company a letter 3Apr1986, NSF Director to IBM Chief Scientist and IBM Senior VP and director of Research, copying IBM CEO) with support from other agencies, but that just makes the internal politics worse (as
does comments that what we already had running was at least 5yrs ahead
of all RFP responses). As regional networks connect into the centers,
it evovolves into the NSFNET backbone (precursor to modern internet).
old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet
past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet
Telcos had huge problem in the early 80s with enormous bandwidth in
dark fiber. They had bit/time use based charging model. In order to
encourage new generation of bandwidth hungry applications, they would
have to enormously drop their bandwidth charges ... which would mean
that they operate at a loss for at least several years. Folklore is
that various telcos provided resources several times larger than the
RFP award ... as part of incubator for developing the bandwidth hungry
applications ... with the additional restriction that the resources
couldn't be used by commercial entities (which might have impacted
their revenue). Lots of requirements for security were ignored. In the
90s until he passes, Internet RFC editor Postel use to let me help
with STD1. He also sponsored a talk at ISI (along with USC graduate
computer security) for me on why Internet isn't business critical
dataprocessing.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#aads
I started referring to the SSL digital certificates, "comfort
certificates" ... since they had become a source of comfort for the
public (not necessary any security). A couple years ago at georgetown
conferece, they had NSA director talk and people line up to ask
questions. I got in line but the director had to leave for WH meeting
before I got to the front. I stayed in line because they then had
panel with former NSA director, former NSA COO, and some others. I
finally got to the front and asked about the agency promoting
confusion between authentication and identification. COO turned it
into a joke about security acronym PAIN (privacy, authentication,
identification, non-repudiation), I've had this conflict with them in
the past.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#privacy
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 12:55:30 -0700re:
When I went to science center in 1970 ... got to rewrite even more of the production cp/67-cms system ... and 2741 access at home mar1970 (have had online access at home continuously since then). I had full access to rewriting all system software and could do some amount of (non-benchmark, non-throughput related tests in virtual machines).
ibm leased mainframes and most installations keeped accounting for use
(even tho internally IBM, it was all "funny" money). At one point, I was
told that I accounted for at least 1/2 of all time and could I do
something about it. I suggested that maybe I could work less; it never
came up again. other past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#41 When Does Folklore Begin???
one of the funny things, the reference apparently was just from the cp67 userid-based use accounting. It apparently didn't include the weekend off-shift dedicated time I used (as undergraduate at the univ., I had been use to getting datacenter all to myself from 8am sat until 8am monday, 48hrs w/o sleep could make monday classes difficult).
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Orient to Reality Date: 11 May 2017 Blog: Google+Orient to Reality
Open Operations Forum: "Just Grow Stories" - or - Continuous
Development Of Our Own Further Development
http://openmonetaryopsforum.blogspot.com/2013/08/just-grow-stories-or-continuous.html
The way forward for progressives
http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=35980
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: More Cyberdumb Date: 11 May 2017 Blog: FacebookRaytheon awarded 3DELRR radar contract. Again.
more "cyberdumb", most major classified weapon systems
Report: China gained U.S. weapons secrets using cyberespionage
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/28/world/asia/china-cyberespionage/
Confidential report lists U.S. weapons system designs compromised by
Chinese cyberspies
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/confidential-report-lists-us-weapons-system-designs-compromised-by-chinese-cyberspies/2013/05/27/a42c3e1c-c2dd-11e2-8c3b-0b5e9247e8ca_story.html
REPORT: Chinese Hackers Stole Plans For Dozens Of Critical US Weapons
Systems
http://www.businessinsider.com/china-hacked-us-military-weapons-systems-2013-5
A list of the U.S. weapons designs and technologies compromised by
hackers
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/a-list-of-the-us-weapons-designs-and-technologies-compromised-by-hackers/2013/05/27/a95b2b12-c483-11e2-9fe2-6ee52d0eb7c1_story.html
OODA-Loop 2.0: Information, Not Agility, Is Life
http://breakingdefense.com/2017/05/OODA-loop-2-0-information-not-agility-is-life/
The F-35 is a high bandwidth, networked, highly capable sensor/weapon,
low observable platform that is superior in the information domain
over all other types of aircraft. It will continue to win the
"information dog fight" against all other adversaries if it maintains
its IM advantage. This is information dominance. This same principle
is also true for the Third Offset warfare areas of Electromagnetic
Maneuver (EMW) and Cyber Warfare.
... snip ...
or more cyberdumb???
military-industrial(-congressional) complex
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
past cyberdumb posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#21 Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#4 Cyberdumb
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#8 Cyberdumb
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#19 Does Cybercrime Really Cost $1 Trillion?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#20 DEC and The Americans
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#91 Computers anyone?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#95 Computers anyone?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#104 How to Win the Cyberwar Against Russia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#0 Snowden
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#28 China's spies gain valuable US defense technology: report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#67 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#15 China's claim it has 'quantum' radar may leave $17 billion F-35 naked
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#34 CBS News: WikiLeaks claims to release thousands of CIA documents of computer activity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#47 WikiLeaks CIA Dump: Washington's Data Security Is a Mess
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#50 A flaw in the design; The Internet's founders saw its promise but didn't foresee users attacking one another
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 08:54:01 -0700mausg writes:
quite critical of Johnson, McNamara, Westmoreland, body count, and whole counterinsurgency program (when Johnson was asked what they were suppose to do in Vietnam, he consistently replies, "kill more viet cong" ... also long litany of Johnson & McNamara lying to congress).
65-74 deaths, allied 282k, NVA/VC 444k, civilian 624k
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties
recent post over in facebook group
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#69 The knives are out for Trump's national security adviser H.R. McMaster
which seems remarkable about claims McMaster is strong proponent of counterinsurgency that has been going on in Afghanastan for over 15yrs.
Doesn't get as far as Nixon's "treason" in manipulating peace talks to
improve his winning election (but does talk about Johnson lying about
vietnam and manipulating opinion to help him win election)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#38 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#93 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#98 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#5 Lessons Learned from the Iraq War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#21 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#22 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#23 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#61 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#75 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#87 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#34 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#39 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#68 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#73 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#76 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#22 Nixon and the war
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#23 Nixon and the war
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#24 Nixon and the war
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: 11May1992 (25 years ago) press on cluster scale-up Date: 11 May 2017 Blog: Facebook11May1992 (25 years ago) press on cluster scale-up
grid triva: late 70s, got con'ed into doing 4341 benchmarks (on
engineering machine, before product ship) for national lab that was looking at
getting 70 for compute farm. old 4300 related email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#4341
Other things along the way, included getting asked in 1988 to help
LLNL standardize some serial stuff they were playing with, which
quickly evolves into fibre channel standard. We were then doing our
HA/CMP product
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp
and starting to work on cluster scale-up for both technical/scientific
(working with national labs) and commercial (working with RDBMS
vendors). In Jan1992 we have meeting on (commercial) cluster scale-up
in Ellison's office ... old reference to the meeting
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13
some old cluster scale-up email, including efforts with LLNL
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa
Within a few weeks of the Ellison meeting, cluster scale-up is transferred, announced as IBM supercomputer (for scientific/technical ONLY) and we are told we can't work on anything with more than four processors. We then leave IBM within a few months. Two of the Oracle people mentioned in the Ellison meeting have also left and are at a small client/server startup responsible for something called "commerce server". We are brought in as consultants because they want to do payment transactions on the server.
also 17Feb1992 press about scientific/technical only
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters1
We are brought in as consultant into small client/server startup that wanted to do payment transactions on their server, they had also invented this technology they called "SSL" they wanted to use, it is now frequently called "electronic commerce". I had completely authority over the webserver to gateway to the payment networks ... but could only make recommendations on the client/server side, some of which were almost immediately violated, accounting from some number of exploits that continue to this day.
Original browser/SSL model is that the user understands the relationship between the URL they enter and the corresponding webserver entity they wish contact. "SSL" then (supposedly) provides the assurance that the webserver they contact corresponds to the URL they entered ... which combined, completes the end-to-end between the webserver they are talking to is the webserver that corresponds to the organization they think they are talking to.
This was almost immediately violated when merchants found that SSL cut their throughput by 90-99% and they dropped back to using non-SSL, unauthenticated URL (open to impersonation and man-in-the-middle attack). Then there is a "checkout/pay" button (provided by an unauthenticated website). Since the checkout/pay URL is no longer provided by the enduser, it breaks the underlying assumption underlying the browser/SSL model.
The PKI industry was also floating $20B/annum business case on
wallstreet, based on financial industry underwriting $100/year/person
certificate (200M people). When that wasn't happening, the industry
was heavily lobbying govs to mandate person digital certificates
... including the cal. state electronic signature act (disclaimer: I
was brought in to help wordsmith the act, possibly as countermeasure
to the PKI industry influence).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#signature
1980, I was con'ed into doing channel-extension support (over
microwave) for STL (even tho the lab was only a couple years old, it
was already bursting at the seams), they were moving 300 people from
the IMS group to offsite bldg ... but with dataprocessing support back
into the STL datacenter. They had tried "remote" 3270 support but
found the human factors totally unacceptable (use to vm370/cms local
channel attached 3270 controllers). It turns out that the support
downloaded channel programs to a channel emulator at the remote site
for execution which radically reduced the latency and channel protocol
chatter overhead on the real channels. A combination of factors
resulted in them not seeing any degradation and because lots of
channel protocol chatter was moved off the real IBM channels, total
system throughput increased 10-15% (reduced channel busy for the 3270
operations). some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#channel.extender
The vendor wanted to get IBM to let them release my support ... but there was a group in POK working on some serial stuff that got it blocked, because they felt if it was released, it would make it harder to get their stuff released.
In 1988, I was asked to help LLNL standardize some serial channel stuff they had, which quickly becomes fibre channel standard ... including the support for downloading I/O programs to minimize latency and overhead. In 1990, the POK people get their serial stuff released as ESCON with ES/9000, when it was already obsolete. Later, some POK channel engineers get involved with fibre channel standard and define an extremely heavyweight protocol (that drastically reduces the throughput of the native standard), that is eventually released as FICON
Relatively recently, IBM published peak I/O benchmark that used 104
FICON getting 2M IOPS on z196 (I haven't been able to find anything
similar published since then) ... at about the same time, a native
fibre channel was announced for e5-2600 blade claiming over million
IOPS (two such fiber channel with higher throughput than 104 FICON
running over 104 fibre channel). About the same time there was
specification for enhanced FICON protocol using TCWs ... a little like
what I had done originally in 1980 ... but it claimed only about 30%
improvement compared to the base FICON (104 to maybe 70 FICON, as
opposed to 2 native fibre channel)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon
Besides (HSDT) channel-extender ... also had HSDT T1 and faster speed
links and was working with director of NSF. We were suppose to get
$20M to interconnect the NSF supercomputer centers. Then congress cuts
the budget, some other things happen and finally NSF releases an RFP
(in part based on what we already had running)
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/401444/grid-computing/
some old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet
and past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet
Internal politics prevent us from bidding. The NSF director tries to help by writing the company a letter 3Apr1986, NSF Director to IBM Chief Scientist and IBM Senior VP and director of Research, copying IBM CEO) with support from other agencies, but that just makes the internal politics worse (as does comments that what we already had running was at least 5yrs ahead of all RFP responses). As regional networks connect into the centers, it evolves into the NSFNET backbone (precursor to modern internet).
Telcos had huge problem in the early 80s with enormous bandwidth in dark fiber. They had bit/time use based charging model. In order to encourage new generation of bandwidth hungry applications, they would have to enormously drop their bandwidth charges ... which would mean that they operate at a loss for at least several years. Folklore is that various telcos provided resources several times larger than the RFP award ... as part of incubator for developing the bandwidth hungry applications ... with the additional restriction that the resources couldn't be used by commercial entities (which might have impacted their revenue). Lots of requirements for security were ignored. In the 90s until he passes, Internet RFC editor Postel use to let me help with STD1. He also sponsored a talk at ISI (along with USC graduate computer security) for me on "Why Internet isn't business critical dataprocessing".
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Typesetting Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 09:20:16 -0700"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
post in long-winded thread about how banks make money off of fraud.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm27.htm#39 a fraud is a sale, Re: The bank fraud blame game
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm27.htm#40 a fraud is a sale, Re: The bank fraud blame game
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm27.htm#43 a fraud is a sale, Re: The bank fraud blame game
chip objective was to be less than dollar ... and only objective was to provide authentication.
prototype (in software) demo'ed at annual world-wide BAI retail banking
show. part of press release
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#224 X9.59/AADS announcement at BAI this week
NACHA pilots in debit network ... some ref
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#aadsnacha
NACHA reference gone 404, but lives on at wayback machine (results of
pilot in 23july2001 reference)
https://web.archive.org/web/20070706004855/http://internetcouncil.nacha.org/News/news.html
old a.f.c. ref about chip being done in new security chip fab in dresden
and doing security walkthru of the dresden fab
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#53 Getting old
from old a.f.c. thread, evaluation, security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#39 My Dream PC -- Chip-Based
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#40 My Dream PC -- Chip-Based
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#41 My Dream PC -- Chip-Based
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#42 My Dream PC -- Chip-Based
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#43 My Dream PC -- Chip-Based
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#46 My Dream PC -- Chip-Based
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#47 My Dream PC -- Chip-Based
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#48 My Dream PC -- Chip-Based
the difficulty was that it commoditized strong security and strong authentication ... vested interests wanted to preserve branding and proprietary infrastructure with additional software features.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Time to sack the chief of computing in the NHS? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 09:37:41 -0700pedro1492 writes:
note that much of their leaks have actually been done by contractors working for for-profit operations (frequently private-equity owned and under intense pressure to cut corners and make moeny every way possible ... part of snowden scenario was that the private-equity companies that security clearances were outsourced to were filling out the paper work ... but not actually doing background checks).
last decade enormous increase in outsource, 70% of the budget and over
half the people for the intelligence community, not just NSA
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/
and contributes to the rapidly spreading success of failure culture, a
series of failures results in more money for the for-profit companies
(and plausibly, breaches means more appropriations for security
monitoring, watched a midsummer murders last night with that theme,
security company was doing home robberies when threatened by budget
cut)
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/
past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failuree
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity
trivia: the former president of AMEX, after he leaves IBM goes on to
head up a major private-equity company that will acquire the beltway
bandit that will employ snowden.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
some recent refs on (gov) cyberdumb ... including breaches
involving most major classified weapons systems
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#0 Snowden
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#28 China's spies gain valuable US defense technology: report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#40 The F-22 Raptor Is the World's Best Fighter (And It Has a Secret Weapon That Is Out in the Open)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#67 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#76 The F-35 Stealth Fighter Is Politically Unstoppable----Even Under President Trump
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#62 Big Shrink to "Hire" 25,000 in the US, as Layoffs Pile Up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#15 China's claim it has 'quantum' radar may leave $17 billion F-35 naked
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#34 CBS News: WikiLeaks claims to release thousands of CIA documents of computer activity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#47 WikiLeaks CIA Dump: Washington's Data Security Is a Mess
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#50 A flaw in the design; The Internet's founders saw its promise but didn't foresee users attacking one another
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#73 More Cyberdumb
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Time to sack the chief of computing in the NHS? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 10:05:02 -0700re:
TD for the agency information assurance directorate is doing assurance
panel in the trusted computing track at the IDF and asks me to do talk
on the chip ... gone 404 but lives on at the wayback machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20011109072807/http://www.intel94.com/idf/spr2001/sessiondescription.asp?id=stp%2bs13
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#trusted.computing
the guy doing the TPM chip is sitting in the front row ... so I guip that it is nice to see the TPM is starting to look more and more like my chip ... he quips back that I don't have a committee of 200 people helping me with the chip design.
other recent posts mentioning that IDF
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#39 History of Mainframe Cloud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#41 History of Mainframe Cloud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#10 Encryp-xit: Europe will go all in for crypto backdoors in June
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#92 Old hardware
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#31 [CM] What was your first home computer?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Typesetting Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 10:54:39 -0700Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
triva: press release mentions a number of companies involved ... one was
a kerberos startup ... including being hired by m'soft to do the their
original kerberos implementation
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa378170(v=vs.85).aspx
interesting thing was their ceo at the time had once been head of IBM
mainframe POK ... and then went on to be head of IBM/PC Boca ... and had
been in the middle of the OS2/windows thing that went on with m'soft.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/27/the_os_wars_os2_25years_old/
and when he was in POK, he had con'ed my wife into coming to POK to be
in charge of loosely-coupled (mainframe) architecture (aka mainframe for
cluster). when my wife was in POK, she did Peer-Coupled Shared Data
architecture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#shareddata
she didn't remain long because of 1) little uptake, except for IMS hot-standby (much later, sysplex & parallel sysplex) and 2) constant battles with the communication group trying to force her into using sna/vtam for loosely-coupled operations.
even more topic drift ... above OS2/windows wars as 25yrs before
27nov2012, recent post about 25yrs before 11may2017
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#75 11May1992 (25 years ago) press on cluster scale-up
somewhat topic drift back towards "Typesetting" ... our HA/CMP cluster
project
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp
was originally kicked-off because somebody at IBM had promised NYTimes
something with regard to Atex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atex_(software)
some past posts mentioning Atex
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002m.html#22 DOS history question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002m.html#23 DOS history question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#21 DOS C prompt in "Vista"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#57 Ikea type font change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#58 Ikea type font change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#60 Ikea type font change
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 11:17:44 -0700Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
Google found over 1,000 bugs in 47 open source projects
https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2017/05/09/fuzzing-open-source/
OSS-Fuzz combines various fuzzing engines (initially, libFuzzer) with
Sanitizers (initially, AddressSanitizer) and provides a massive
distributed execution environment powered by ClusterFuzz.
... snip ...
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Linear Thinking in a Nonlinear World Date: 13 May 2017 Blog: FacebookLinear Thinking in a Nonlinear World
from the law of diminishing returns.
old post regarding details of ECPS microcode assist. low/mid-range
mainframe 370 avg. 10 microcode instructions per 370 instruction. New
138/148 had 6kbytes of available microcode space. Objective was to
find the 6kbytes of highest used 370 kernel instructions and move them
into microcode for 10:1 performance improvement. following shows
highest used 6kbytes accounted for 79.55%
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#21
also
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#75 11May1992 (25 years ago) press on cluster scale-up
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: does linux scatter daemons on multicore CPU? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 13:41:05 -0700re: MP/M
i have vague memories of SLAC meeting, a cp/67 (then vm/370)
Amdahl guy saying one of his co-workers was doing the mp/m
(muli-programming) implementation version of cp/m ... but
it may have been mp/m-86
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP/M#MP.2FM-86
above then mentions in the 80s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FlexOS
one question is there any overlap between the mainframe Flex-ES emulator
running on i86 hardware ... originally by some former Amdahl people
... and FlexOS. some old flex-es posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002h.html#63 Sizing the application
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#13 FlexEs and IVSK instruction
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#39 Flex Question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#10 Low-end processors (again)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#0 IBM 3380 and 3880 maintenance docs needed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#21 IBM tried to kill VM?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#26 Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - MarketWatch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#29 Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - MarketWatch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#42 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#68 Entry point for a Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#71 Entry point for a Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#32 history of RPG and other languages, was search engine history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#13 AMC proposes 1980s computer TV series Halt & Catch Fire
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#41 System Response
Platform Solutions ref:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/22/platform_solutions_sues_ibm/
PSI has ported the mainframe systems architecture developed by Amdahl to
Intel's Itanium chip. Set up in 2003, the privately-held company is
backed by Blueprint Ventures, Goldman Sachs, Intel and others.
... snip ...
and (also includes mention of FLEX-ES)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl_Corporation#Amdahl_customer_options
The vestiges of Amdahl's ESA/390 emulation project were resurrected
under a new name: Platform Solutions Inc. Using capital from Intel,
Hewlett-Packard, Microsoft, and other major investors they designed a
line of Itanium-based computers and software to emulate z/Architecture
machines so that they could run zSeries operating systems, with zSeries
channels for attaching real IBM equipment as well as virtual simulators
for most hardware to minimize the need for IBM's peripheral
equipment. Its LPARs hosted not only IBM operating systems but 64-bit
Intel Itanium Linux, HP-UX, Solaris, and potentially other operating
systems.
... snip ...
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Time to sack the chief of computing in the NHS? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 18:28:37 -0700Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
recently mentioned:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#47 A flaw in the design; The Internet's founders saw its promise but didn't foresee users attacking one another
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Time to sack the chief of computing in the NHS? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 21:35:43 -0700Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
Top NSA Whistleblower: Ransomware Hack Caused by "Swindle of the
Taxpayers" by Intelligence Agencies
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-13/top-nsa-whistleblower-ransomware-hack-caused-%E2%80%9Cswindle-taxpayers%E2%80%9D-intelligence-agenci
Binney is the real McCoy. As we noted in 2013, Binney has been
interviewed by virtually all of the mainstream media, including CBS,
ABC, CNN, New York Times, USA Today, Fox News, PBS and many others.
... snip ...
William Binney (U.S. intelligence official)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Binney_(U.S._intelligence_official)
from above, part of success of failure
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trailblazer_Project
Bio: William Binney and J. Kirk Wiebe
https://www.whistleblower.org/bio-william-binney-and-j-kirk-wiebe
whistleblower posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#whistleblower
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Time to sack the chief of computing in the NHS? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 14 May 2017 10:53:50 -0700re:
Warren Buffett's cybersecurity wake-up call -- are we listening?
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/technology/333026-warren-buffetts-cybersecurity-wake-up-call-are-we-listening
During his Senate confirmation hearing, Clayton -- who had spent more
than 20 years working for Wall Street companies on mergers, acquisitions
and federal regulatory compliance -- said he did not think public
companies were providing investors with enough information about
cybersecurity.
... snip ...
dates back at least 20yrs, long winded post from jan1999 on the subject
(thread between risk management and information security)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm
Risk management is the art of managing earnings. A good description of
the process would be to develop the ability to hindsight as much in
advance, before an event occurs. Essentially senior management has to
address the task of managing earnings in an uncontrollable
environment. Managing a corporate entity is a process of making
decisions based on insufficient data, of inadequate quality, facing an
unknown future, within an uncontrollable environment.
... snip ...
In the 90s at the financial industry meetings in the white house annex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_infrastructure_protection
a major concern was that the ISAC be created in such a way that it not
be subject to FOIA (they especially didn't want publicity about cyber
crime).
https://www.fsisac.com/
we were brought in to help wordsmith the cal. state electronic signature
law
... recent refs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#70 Domain Name System
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#75 11May1992 (25 years ago) press on cluster scale-up
several of the participants were heavily involved in privacy issues and
had done detailed public privacy surveys and the #1 problem was
fraudulent financial transactions primarily from breaches. There was
little or nothing being done about these breaches and it was hoped that
publicity from data breach notification legislation would prompt
corrective action. The issue is entities normally take security measures
in self-protection, the problem with the breaches was the institutions
weren't at risk, it was their customers and the public.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_breach_notification_laws
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_S.B._1386
later there were a number of federal (preemption) notification bills introduced (none yet passed) that would effectively eliminate nearly all notification requirements.
electronic signature law posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#signature
data breach notification posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#data.breach.notification.notification
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Time to sack the chief of computing in the NHS? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 14 May 2017 16:21:36 -0700re:
more than decade ago, somebody gave a talk at conference about cyber crime had exceeded drug crime ... which got picked up by the press and reverberated around the world. I then got email asking if I find open source references to cyber crime had exceeded drug crime. The major LEO websites had drug crime numbers readily available ... but asking about cyber crime required special authentication on "need to know". I eventually found an extremely obscure reference (that hadn't been redacted).
past refs:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#25 Cybercrime Could Be As Destructive As Credit Crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#44 Cybercrime cost $1 trillion last year, study
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#38 Cybercrime running into trillions, experts claim
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#47 Cyber crime 'more profitable than drugs'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#56 Credit cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#58 Credit cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#20 Electronic Theft Costs Businesses More Than Physical Theft
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#31 Cyber-crime: bigger than the drugs trade, and growing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#40 The Great Cyberheist
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#53 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#27 Measuring Cyberfraud, the fall rate of sky, and other metrics from the market for Silver Bullets
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#9 NSA chief criticises media and suggests UK was right to detain David Miranda
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#13 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#49 Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#15 Banking Culture Encourages Dishonesty
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#19 Does Cybercrime Really Cost $1 Trillion?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#17 Cybercrime
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: The advent of ADVENT Date: 14 May 2017 Blog: Google+The advent of ADVENT
I would stop by Tymshare periodically and one visit found that had ported fortran from Stanford PDP10 to VM370/CMS and I got a copy spring 1978. I would make it available on the internal network and very soon there were PLI versions.
recent post (with some spring 1978 email)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#65 [CM] What was your first home computer?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: I quit this NG Newsgroups: comp.arch Date: Sun, 14 May 2017 18:43:47 -0700Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
Damage To Specific Site In The Brain May Be Linked To Religious
Fundamentalism
http://www.iflscience.com/brain/damage-to-specific-site-in-the-brain-may-be-linked-to-religious-fundamentalism/
Biological and cognitive underpinnings of religious fundamentalism (June
2017)
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0028393217301318
Neurologists Have Identified Brain Lesions That Could Be Linked to
Religious Fundamentalism (May 2017)
https://www.sciencealert.com/damage-to-a-specific-part-of-the-brain-could-result-in-religious-fundamentalism
earlier, 2008 from NIH: Neurobiology of Spirituality
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3190564/
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: The head of the Census Bureau just quit, and the consequences are huge Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 09:01:40 -0700The head of the Census Bureau just quit, and the consequences are huge
mid 90s we consulted (essentially for free) for the backend dataprocessing for the 2000 census. They still had 70s (burroughs) systems that were used for the 80s&90s census. The 70s systems were rolled out spring 1997 and the 90s systems were rolled in ... so there was plenty of time to work with the new systems getting ready for the 2000 census. When the effort was audited, they had me spend all day in front of the room answering questions.
Later we tried to do something similar for VA dataprocessing, which was
coming off a failed billion dollar effort and were gearing up for a
couple billion dollar project. However, doing something essentially for
free is big threat to beltway bandits ... and the emerging success of
failure culture
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/
success of failure posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failuree
contributing to the rapidly spreading success of failure culture was
the massive uptic in outsourcing to for-profit companies last decade
... for intelligence, 70% of the budget and over half the people
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/
past posts mentioning 2000 census:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#16 Why are Mainframe Computers really still in use at all?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004j.html#21 Methods of payment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004j.html#43 Methods of payment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#63 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#92 Billion-dollar IT failure at Census Bureau
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#21 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#56 Handling multicore CPUs; what the competition is thinking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#56 What's the most interesting thing you do in your non-work life?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#87 Cultural attitudes towards failure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#11 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#98 ACA (Obamacare) website problems--article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#37 OT this guy salary one dollar
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#72 George W. Bush: Still the worst; A new study ranks Bush near the very bottom in history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#39 Failure as a Way of Life; The logic of lost wars and military-industrial boondoggles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#107 Qbasic - lies about Medicare
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#18 FBI Rewrites Federal Law to Let Hillary Off the Hook
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#12 Why a Single-Payer Health Care System is Inevitable
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#40 Misc. Success of Failure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#76 GLBA & Glass-Steagall
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#71 ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Ransomware on Mainframe application ? Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 15 May 2017 10:32:08 -07000000000433f07816-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.UA.EDU (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
by nearly year, was xmas exec (email) on bitnet (this fora originated on
corporate sponsored university bitnet).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BITNET
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_Tree_EXEC
we had looked at problem before that ... but people wanted to do things like that anyway.
recent thread
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#47 A flaw in the design; The Internet's founders saw its promise but didn't foresee users attacking one another
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#49 A flaw in the design; The Internet's founders saw its promise but didn't foresee users attacking one another
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#50 A flaw in the design; The Internet's founders saw its promise but didn't foresee users attacking one another
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#56 A flaw in the design; The Internet's founders saw its promise but didn't foresee users attacking one another
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#59 A flaw in the design; The Internet's founders saw its promise but didn't foresee users attacking one another
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#83 Time to sack the chief of computing in the NHS?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#85 Time to sack the chief of computing in the NHS?
at 1996 Moscone MDC, all the banners said "internet" but the constant refrain in all the sessions was "preserve your investment". The issue was that a paradigm of automatic executed scripts included in data files had grown on on small, private, safe, business lans ... and was being extended to the wild anarchy of the internet w/o any additional countermeasures.
Until he passes, the Internet RFC standards editor use to let me help
with STD1. He also sponsored my talk on Why the internet isn't
business critical dataprocessing for ISI and USC computer security
graduate students (in part based on the compensating procedures I had
to do for "electronic commerce"). recent reference
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#11 The Geniuses that Anticipated the Idea of the Internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#14 The Geniuses that Anticipated the Idea of the Internet
Shortly after graduation and joining IBM, the science center had (also) ported APL\360 to CP/67-CMS for CMS\APL ... redoing memory management for large virtual memory, demand paged environment, also adding API to system services (like file i/o), opening APL to doing real world applications. One of the early users of CMS\APL on the science center system were the business planners in Armonk hdqtrs, loading the most valuable corporate data ... detailed customer information, and doing business models. The science center also had a lot of non-employee users, including staff and students from universities in the boston area (mit, bu, etc). As a result, we had to demonstrate a very high level of integrity and security.
A couple years later, IBM had hired former gov. employee as CSO (at one time had been head of presidential detail) and I got assigned to run around with him ... talking about computer security (and learning a little about physical security).
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Ransomware on Mainframe application ? Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 15 May 2017 12:03:26 -0700re:
trivia from long ago and far away, gone 404, but lives on
at the way back machine:
https://web.archive.org/web/20090117083033/http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtml
I didn't learn about them until much later. As undergraduate did lots of work on IBM software and I would even get requests from IBM for enhancements ... in retrospect, some of the requests may have originated from these guys.
ibmmain post from march about learning that there were three kinds of
crypto around the mid-80s.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#69 ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches
also referenced in this more recent post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#58 A flaw in the design; The Internet's founders saw its promise but didn't foresee users attacking one another
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Check out New Wave of Ransom Threats Seen in Unprecedented Attack - Bloomberg Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 15 May 2017 14:51:12 -07000000000433f07816-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.UA.EDU (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
recent posts mentioning ransoms:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#84 Time to sack the chief of computing in the NHS?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#90 Ransomware on Mainframe application ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#91 Ransomware on Mainframe application ?
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Ransomware on Mainframe application ? Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 15 May 2017 15:17:03 -0700mainframe@BIGENDIANSMALLS.COM (Chad Rikansrud) writes:
in IBM Retirees facebook discussion, there has been a lot about recent news articles on buffett unloading IBM:
Buffett cuts stake in IBM and shares slide
https://phys.org/news/2017-05-buffett-stake-ibm.html
Not Just Buffett: IBM Unit Sells IBM, Wells Fargo
http://www.barrons.com/articles/not-just-buffett-ibm-unit-sells-ibm-wells-fargo-1494590407
But Buffett has also waded in on cybersecurity
Warren Buffett's cybersecurity wake-up call -- are we listening?
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/technology/333026-warren-buffetts-cybersecurity-wake-up-call-are-we-listening
recent post about this predates Buffett recent reference going back more
than 20yrs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#85 Time to sack the cheif of computing in the NHS
includes reference to conference that Tandem/Compaq & Atalla (ATM
machine crypto company that Tandem had bought) put on for me ... really
long winded posting from Jan1999:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm
I have prototype secure chip (strong authentication for both sessions
and transactions) demos/booth at world wide retail banking show Dec1999:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#224 X9.59/AADS announcement at BAI this week
trivia: the CEO of one of the security companies that participated in both the conference and the BAI demo ... had at one time been head of mainframe POK.
recent posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#90 Ransomware on Mainframe application ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#91 Ransomware on Mainframe application ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#92 Check out New Wave of Ransom Threats Seen in Unprecedented Attack - Bloomberg
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Migration off Mainframe to other platform Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 15 May 2017 18:13:08 -0700Tom Longfellow <tlongfellow@verizon.net> writes:
SCI was fiber optic protocol adapted for a number of things ... including channel I/O ... but also a scalable (64-port) multiprocessor memory interface. Sequent (& Data General) used it for 256-way server with 64 four I486 chip boards (ibm later buys sequent).
Convex does a 128-way "snake" ... SCI with 64 two processor "HP snake" chip boards. HP then buys Convex. An engineer that had been at Cray, then IBM Kingston engineer&scientific, then IBM Austin RS6000 is hired by HP to do superdome ... sort of a less expensive convex machine.
some multiprocessor posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp
After leaving IBM, we did some consulting for both Sequent and Convex. Then the guy doing superdome tries to talk us into joining him. At the time we were doing some work for major payment card processor and HP had bought one of major point-of-sale terminal companies. The former CEO of the point-of-sale terminal company and the guy doing superdome both report to the same HP executives ... and we have to have meetings with all of them for different reasons.
all of these mostly predate ibm cmos highend mainframes.
While still at IBM, in 1988 I had been asked to help LLNL standardize some serial stuff they have that quickly becomes fibre channel standard, including some stuff I had worked with in 1980 for channel extender. Later some POK channel engineers become involved and define a heavy weight protocol that radically reduces the native throuput that is eventually released as FICON.
some FICON posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon
latest peak I/O benchmark that I've found is z196 getting 2M IOPS with 104 FICON (running over 104 fibre standard). At about the same time a fibre channel was announced for e5-2600 claiming over million IOPS (two such have higher throughput than 104 FICON). There is reference to TCW for zHPF that is little like what I did in 1980, but it only claims 30% improvement (say 70 FICON instead of 104).
some channel-extender posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#channel.extender
e5-2600v1 in the time-frame of z196 had between 400-530BIPS (depending on model) compared to 80-way z196 rated at 50BIPS.
Since then there have been 101 ec12 at 75BIPS and 141 Z13 at 100BIPS, and e5-2600 v2, v3, and v4 ... with v4 somewhere around 1500BIPS.
before IBM sold off its I86 server business it had announced an high-density e5-2600 rack with something like 64 e5-2600 blades ... or around 3500 BIPs for v1 e5-2600 and nearly 10,000 BIPS for v4 (something like equivalent of 100 z13).
the large megadatacenters with hundreds of thousands of blades ... have done an enormous amount of automation, a typical megadatacenter run by staff of 80-120 people. However, the enormous optimization in blade cost, blade operation, automation, etc ... by the large megadatacenters likely contributed to IBM selling off its i86 server business.
part of z196 performance claims (compared to z10) is the introduction of
memory latency compensation features (out of order execution, branch
prediction, etc) that have been in many of these other chip platforms
for decades; with further improvements for ec12 and z13 ... although
z900, 16 processors, 2.5BIPS (156MIPS/proc), Dec2000
z990, 32 processors, 9BIPS, (281MIPS/proc), 2003
z9, 54 processors, 18BIPS (333MIPS/proc), July2005
z10, 64 processors, 30BIPS (469MIPS/proc), Feb2008
z196, 80 processors, 50BIPS (625MIPS/proc), Jul2010
EC12, 101 processors, 75BIPS (743MIPS/proc), Aug2012
early z13 specs said 30% more performance than ec12 (100BIPS) with 40%
more processors (or 710MIPS/processors??) ... some current z13 specs
says 40% more performance (w/40% more processors, so maybe same
MIPS/proc).
some recent e5-2600 blade posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#19 follow up to dense code definition
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#73 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#6 How do BIG WEBSITES work?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#16 System z: I/O Interoperability Evolution - From Bus & Tag to FICON
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#1 GREAT presentation on the history of the mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#17 The Pentagon still uses computer software from 1958 to manage its contracts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#25 ARM Cortex A53 64 bit
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#57 What are mainframes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#58 Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#88 Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#10 WD ships 'world's largest' 12TB HGST Ultrastar He12 Helium 7200 RPM Enterprise HDDs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#75 11May1992 (25 years ago) press on cluster scale-up
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The head of the Census Bureau just quit, and the consequences are huge Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 21:28:39 -0700Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> writes:
350M standard ibm punch cards, 2000cards/box, 175,000 boxes, 5 boxes/carton, 35,000 cartons.
2540 reader, 1000 cards/minute, 350,000 minutes, 5833hrs, 243days, large shifts of people constantly feeding cards, maybe several 2540 readers, since they would need to have regular maintenance every day (possibly every shift). anybody know duty cycle of 2540 (i would expect it would be well under 350M cards).
maybe 100 2540s, 10 2540s in serial sequential streams and 10 parallel streams ... get things down to 24days.
all starts with census back in 1890s
https://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/history/year_1890.html
Herman Hollerith's tabulating system is used in the U.S. Census,
reducing a nearly 10-year long process to two and a half years and
saving $5 million.
... snip ...
more history
https://www.census.gov/history/www/innovations/technology/tabulation_and_processing.html
and more
http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/object-groups/tabulating-equipment?ogmt_page=census-to-rand&edan_start=0&edan_fq=name%3A%22Remington+Rand%22&ogmt_view=list
past posts mentioning census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#16 Why are Mainframe Computers really still in use at all?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002k.html#41 How will current AI/robot stories play when AIs are real?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003c.html#39 DOD 5200.28-STD capable OS?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#28 Offshore IT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#45 Offshore IT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003l.html#13 Cost of patching "unsustainable"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003p.html#12 Danger: Derrida at work
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003p.html#33 [IBM-MAIN] NY Times editorial on white collar jobs going
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#2 The SOB that helped IT jobs move to India is dead!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#42 The SOB that helped IT jobs move to India is dead!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004d.html#18 The SOB that helped IT jobs move to India is dead!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#48 Data Display & Modeling
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004h.html#18 Low Bar for High School Students Threatens Tech Sector
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004j.html#21 Methods of payment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004j.html#43 Methods of payment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005c.html#18 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#48 Mozilla v Firefox
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005g.html#43 Academic priorities
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005g.html#50 Maximum RAM and ROM for smartcards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#44 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#20 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#21 Taxes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006l.html#63 DEC's Hudson fab
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#7 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#18 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#24 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#70 illegal aliens
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#79 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#7 Newbie question on table design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#31 IBM Unionization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#51 IBM Unionization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#85 IBM Unionization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#30 IBM Unionization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#22 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#12 ANT Censuses of the Internet Address Space
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#29 folklore indeed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#39 competitiveness
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#63 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#92 Billion-dollar IT failure at Census Bureau
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#31 Billion-dollar IT failure at Census Bureau
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#5 Republican accomplishments and Hoover
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008l.html#39 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#82 Tell me why the taxpayer should be saving GM and Chrysler (and Ford) managers & shareholders at this stage of the game?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#22 Is Pride going to decimate the auto Industry?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#55 Can outsourcing be stopped?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#20 Five great technological revolutions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#23 Fresh start for lost file formats
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#62 some '83 references to boyd
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#43 Larrabee delayed: anyone know what's happening?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#38 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#21 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#33 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#34 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#35 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#36 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#37 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#39 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#45 not even sort of about The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#46 not even sort of about The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#51 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#54 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#56 Handling multicore CPUs; what the competition is thinking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#62 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#67 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#69 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#76 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#79 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#81 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#84 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#86 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#87 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#18 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#19 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#62 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#63 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#66 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#69 No command, and control
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#80 Chinese and Indian Entrepreneurs Are Eating America's Lunch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#42 z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#48 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#36 The Next Convergence: The Future of Economic Growth in a Multispeed World
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#18 Great Brian Arthur article on the Second Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#125 UC-Berkeley and other 'public Ivies' in fiscal peril
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#56 What's the most interesting thing you do in your non-work life?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#75 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#18 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#36 Race Against the Machine
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#87 Cultural attitudes towards failure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#73 These Two Charts Show How The Priorities Of US Companies Have Gotten Screwed Up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#11 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#98 ACA (Obamacare) website problems--article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#66 Salesmen--IBM and Coca Cola
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#47 Stolen F-35 Secrets Now Showing Up in China's Stealth Fighter
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#32 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#37 OT this guy salary one dollar
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#54 How do we take political considerations into account in the OODA-Loop?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#72 George W. Bush: Still the worst; A new study ranks Bush near the very bottom in history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#4 Decimal point character and billions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#39 Failure as a Way of Life; The logic of lost wars and military-industrial boondoggles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#107 Qbasic - lies about Medicare
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#18 FBI Rewrites Federal Law to Let Hillary Off the Hook
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#12 Why a Single-Payer Health Care System is Inevitable
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#40 Misc. Success of Failure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#76 GLBA & Glass-Steagall
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#71 ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#27 US Education
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#94 A 40-year "conspiracy" at the VA
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 09:21:45 -0700scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
inequality posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#inequality
some drift, general middle class, but a little more focused on pensions
AMEX is in competition with KKR for LBO of RJR. KKR wins but runs into
problems and hires away the president of AMEX to help turn it around
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarians_at_the_Gate:_The_Fall_of_RJR_Nabisco
IBM has gone into the red and was being reorganized into the 13 baby
blues in preparation for breaking up the company. The board then hires
away the former AMEX president to resurrect the company and reverse the
breakup ... using some of the techniques at RJR
https://web.archive.org/web/20181019074906/http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml
IBM couldn't just pull the plug on the subsidy, because pension law
doesn't allow a company to take away a benefit a person has already
earned or take away a pension right or feature the company has
granted. "So we had to design something different," Sauvigne said. Enter
Louis V. Gerstner Jr., IBM's new president. He'd headed RJR Nabisco in
1993 when it faced a similar dilemma: how to reduce pensions and remove
the retirement subsidy without obviously violating the law or provoking
an employee backlash. Gerstner and IBM turned to Watson Wyatt, the same
consulting firm that had helped Nabisco solve its pension problem.
... snip ...
Gerstner posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
posts referencing pensions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#pensions
Friedman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Friedman
Friedman promoted an alternative macroeconomic viewpoint known as
"monetarism", and argued that a steady, small expansion of the money
supply was the preferred policy.[12] His ideas concerning monetary
policy, taxation, privatization and deregulation influenced government
policies, especially during the 1980s.
... snip ...
Milton Friedman's Cherished Theory Is Laid to Rest
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-01-12/milton-friedman-s-cherished-theory-is-laid-to-rest
Even now, when economic models have become far more complex than
anything in Friedman's time, economists still go back to Friedman's
theory as a mental touchstone -- a fundamental intuition that guides the
way they make their models. My first macroeconomics professor believed
in it deeply and instinctively, and would even bring it up in department
seminars.
... snip ...
The Champions of the 401(k) Lament the Revolution They Started
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-champions-of-the-401-k-lament-the-revolution-they-started-1483382348?mod=e2fb
Economists and the Powerful: Convenient Theories, Distorted Facts, Ample Rewards
https://www.amazon.com/Economists-Powerful-Convenient-Distorted-Economics-ebook/dp/B01B4X4KOS/
loc1200-1206:
There are plenty of examples from other countries to copy: the US
individual retirement account system is based on the Chilean pension
reform of 1980/81 that in turn was based heavily on proposals made in
the book Capitalism and Freedom by Milton Friedman. In response to the
Chilean system facing a likely collapse in a few decades time, it was
substantially overhauled in 2008 to require mandatory participation of
all citizens in exchange for universal pension coverage.
... snip ...
The Undoing Project: A Friendship That Changed Our Minds
https://www.amazon.com/Undoing-Project-Friendship-Changed-Minds-ebook/dp/B01GI6S7EK/
goes into some detail how Kahneman and Tversky disproved Economists'
assumption that people make rational decisions ... loc1155-59:
He had listened to an American economist talk about how so-and-so was
stupid and so-and-so was a fool, then said, "All your economic models
are premised on people being smart and rational, and yet all the people
you know are idiots."
... snip ...
Kahneman (a psychologist) gets Nobel Prize in economics, in part for debunking Friedman economic theories
Peak Savings: Wall Street Faces 20 Years Of Retirement Withdrawals As
Boomers Hit 70 1/2
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-16/peak-savings-us-demographic-time-bomb-ready-explode-boomers-hit-70-12-years
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 09:30:33 -0700Osmium <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
Iran Elected leader was going to review the Anglo-Persian contracts
... CIA Confirms Role in 1953 Iran Coup
http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB435/
including
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_Roosevelt,_Jr.
in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
and to help keep the shah stay in power, US (including Norman
Schwarzkopf senior) trained
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK
military-industrial(-congressional) complex
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The head of the Census Bureau just quit, and the consequences are huge Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 09:59:47 -0700mausg writes:
success of failure, original post ... includes lots of dataprocessing
modernization projects over the years ... including intelligence,
especially with the huge uptic in outsourcing last decade
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/
70% of intelligence budget and over half the people
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/
success of failure posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failuree
recent ref to "Dereliction of Duty"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#69
repeatedly mentions belief that US prestige in the world would suffer
more if it just pulled out of Vietnam than if it stayed in Vietnam and
lost ... all the detailed analysis that regardless of the military
victories, that US would eventually loose politically ... all the deaths
were just cannon fodder for the politicians, 65-74 deaths, allied 282k,
NVA/VC 444k, civilian 624k
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties
and now we have perpetual war (almost like old "star trek" episode)
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com/p/domestic-roots-of-perpetual-war.html
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_war
and "perpetual war" posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
WMD posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#wmds
military-industrial(-congressional) complex
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 11:04:33 -0700Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
after the Iran revolt against the Shah and SAVAK, the US was supporting
Iraq in the iran/iraq war
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq_War
including supplying WMDs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran-Iraq_war
the VP and former CIA director claims no knowledge of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_affair
because he was fulltime administration point person deregulating
financial industry, in part influence of Friedman, recent mention
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#96 [CM] What was your first home computer?
... creating S&L crisis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
along with other members of his family
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan
and another
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0D81E3BF937A25753C1A966958260
Republicans and Saudis bailing out the Bushes
last decade, another family member presides over the economic mess 70 times larger than the S&L crisis. S&L crisis had 1000 criminal convictions with jailtime, proportionally the economic mess should have 70,000.
80s VP has become president and Iran/Contra prosecutors are working with
former SECDEF on evidence ... including against the sitting
president. The president then "pardons" the former SECDEF. However, they
now have evidence that the president was involved in the Iran/Contra
afair
https://www.amazon.com/Profiteers-Bechtel-Men-Built-World-ebook/dp/B010MHAHV2/
loc2752-54:
Pollard had accidentally "busted the most secret White House operation
of modern times," as one account put it. "Neither Pollard nor the
government of Israel was aware that they had smashed George Bush's first
shipment of arms to Iran."
loc2764-65:
Despite his best efforts to silence Pollard, Weinberger would not escape
his own entanglement in the Iran-Contra conspiracy, for which he would
ultimately face criminal charges.
... snip ...
early 90s, a sat. photo recon analyst informed White House that Saddam
was marshaling forces for invasion of Kuwait. White House says that
Saddam told them he would do no such thing and proceeded to discredit
the analyst. then the analyst informed the White House that Saddam was
marshaling forces for invasion of Saudi Arabia. Now Bush1 has to choose
between Saudi Arabia and Saddam.
https://www.amazon.com/Long-Strange-Journey-Intelligence-ebook/dp/B004NNV5H2/
Iraq round 2 last decade, initially an invasion was justified on Iraq
aiding Al Qaeda (and it would only cost $50B). Then justification was
changed to (fabricated) WMDs (they had been given proof that the WMDs
from Iran/Iraq war had been decommissioned). Early in the invasion the
decomossioned WMDs (tracing back to US in the Iran/Iraq war) were found,
but that information was classified until fall of 2014.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html
the two (nearing 20yrs) wars now $5T ... 100 times larger than the
original Iraq invasion justification (and no end in sight)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#wmds
old long-winded post from Jan1999 including mention of securitized
mortgages.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm
1999 I was asked to try and help prevent the coming economic mess by improving the integrity of securitized mortgages supporting documents. securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages (posterchild was office bldgs in Dallus/FtWorth that turn out to be empty lots). They then find that they can pay rating agencies for triple-A ratings (when rating agencies know that they aren't worth triple-A, from Oct2008 congressional testimony). Triple-A rating trumps supporting documentation and they can start doing no-documentation liar loans (and no longer had to care about borrower's qualification or loan quality). It was major factor in being able to do over $27T 2001-2008 (especially selling to institutions restricted to dealing only in "safe" investments, like large pension funds). From the law of unintended consequences, the largest TBTF economic mess fines so far are for the robo-signing mills fabricating the missing documents.
too big to fail postings
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
(triple-A rated) toxic CDOs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 11:37:22 -0700Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
recent post in ibmmain mailing list
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#93 Ransomware on Mainframe application ?
references the Jan1999 post, it was a conference that compaq/tandem and atalla (ATM machine crypto company Tandem had bought) had sponsored for me.
It then mentions booth/demo I had in Dec1999 at the worldwide retail
banking BAI show in Miami.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#224 X9.59/AADS announcement at BAI this week
The CEO of a security (originally kerberos startup) company that
participated in both events ... had previously been head of POK
high-end mainframe, and then head of Boca IBM/PC (and involved in the
windows/OS2 deals with m'soft). At the time, the company also had
contract to do m'soft's Kerberos implementation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#79 Typesetting
past posts also doing strong authentication implementation for Kerberos
(not just strong authentication for financial operations)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#kerberos
as well doing strong authentication implementation for radius
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#radius
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The head of the Census Bureau just quit, and the consequences are huge Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 17:33:44 -0700Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
20,000 cards is about ten boxes, two cartons ... 20mins to process at 1000/min. card trays held about box&half or around 3000 cards. web search comes up with pictures of two-wide, 7 high card tray cabinents ... or 14 trays, @3000, 42,000 cards.
when I first started, univ was (still) using mark sense cards for class
registration ... which got punched
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_514
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/rochester/rochester_4011.html
and run through 2540. I did driver for registration that would read into middle stacker ... and on error/problem, application would punch (into middle stacker) colored (top edge) stripe card behind card with problem ... had somewhere between 20&30 thousand cards (ten card trays).
regular cards were all manila, so it was easy to spot problem registration in the card trays flagged with colored stripe.
past posts mentioning 2540 middle stacker
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/98.html#53 punch card editing, take 2
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#20 HELP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#59 IBM System/360 DOS still going strong as Z/VSE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#71 IBM System/3 & 3277-1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#0 IBM System/3 & 3277-1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#47 IBM 029 keypunch -- 0-8-2 overpunch -- what hex code results?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#64 Reproducing Punch (513/514)--consecutive numbering, mark sense reading
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#73 History: Mark-sense cards vs. plain keypunching?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#80 Got to remembering... the really old geeks (like me) cut their teeth on Unit Record
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#8 Last card reader?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#12 IEBPTPCH questions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#92 360/20, was 1132 printer history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#100 IBM's 96 column punch card (was System/3)?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#27 Old IBM Mainframe Systems
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 19:34:08 -0700"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
Roosevelt complained that Churchill was constantly trying to postpone
the invasion of europe ... with the objective of letting Russia and
Germany to continue to slug it out until both were exhausted. Roosevelt
said that would mean the war would drag on until 1947 and the American
public wouldn't stand for it. some recent posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#60 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#119 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#80 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#85 US vs German Armies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#89 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#14 Trump to sign cyber security order
with both russia and germany taken out, that would leave britain a free hand in europe after the war.
US enters 8Dec41 ... 1947 ... would have been less than six years
... hardly anything compared to recent perpetual war
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
military-industrial(-congressional) complex
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 07:22:16 -0700mausg writes:
i.e. Europe & later US, would loot resource rich countries. Example was Burma and portions of India had the highest standard of living and highest literacy rates in the world until British came in and looted the country. Burma went from the highest literacy rate & standard of living to the lowest.
US either compromise the ruler ... or replace with one that can be
compromised .. and then loot the country ... "Economic Hit Man" (not
stricly colonization done by european countries in earlier ages)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#63 21st Century Management approach?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#80 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#111 Matt Taibbi with Xmas Message from the Rich
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#25 You may ask yourself, well, how did I get here?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#57 Study Confirms The Government Produces The Buggiest Software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#70 The Army and Special Forces: The Fantasy Continues
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#83 Protected: R.I.P. Containment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#2 OT: Tax breaks to Oracle debated
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#93 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#95 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#98 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#7 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#25 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#51 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#78 Has the US Lost Its Grand Strategic Mind?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#69 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#80 The REAL Reason U.S. Targets Whistleblowers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#40 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#38 Can America Win Wars
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#62 UK government plans switch from Microsoft Office to open source
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#41 UK government plans switch from Microsoft Office to open source
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#49 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#37 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#38 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#47 Stolen F-35 Secrets Now Showing Up in China's Stealth Fighter
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#66 Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#104 No Internet. No Microsoft Windows. No iPods. This Is What Tech Was Like In 1984
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#1 do you blame Harvard for Puten
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#4 Pay Any Price: Greed, Power, and Endless War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#5 Swiss Leaks lifts the veil on a secretive banking system
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#8 Shoot Bank Of America Now---The Case For Super Glass-Steagall Is Overwhelming
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#67 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#30 Analysis: Root of Tattered US-Russia Ties Date Back Decades
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#44 No, the F-35 Can't Fight at Long Range, Either
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#45 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#11 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#14 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#122 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#31 Putin holds phone call with Obama, urges better defense cooperation in fight against ISIS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#7 Why was no one prosecuted for contributing to the financial crisis? New documents reveal why
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#69 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#22 US and UK have staged coups before
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#3 Smedley Butler
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#38 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 07:33:03 -0700mausg writes:
note that the military-industrial complex wanted the iraq2 invasion so
badly that corporate reps were telling former soviet block countries
that if they would vote for the invasion in the UN, they would get NATO
membership and (directed appropriation) USAID (that could only be spent
on military weapons from US companies)
https://www.amazon.com/Prophets-War-Lockheed-Military-Industrial-ebook/dp/B0047T86BA/
... much of the rest could be considered "Kabuki Theater"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#kabuki.theater
WMDs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#wmds
military-industrial(-congressional) complex
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
past refs to corporate reps lobbying for Iraq2 invasion
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#54 How do we take political considerations into account in the OODA-Loop?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#74 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#108 Occupy Democrats
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#17 Why do we keep losing?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#29 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 ^A^K boy scouts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#34 43rd President
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#67 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#1 Jeb: George W. Bush is a top foreign policy adviser
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#76 Pentagon remains stubbornly unable to account for its billions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#78 New hard drive
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#33 The wars in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan were lost before they began, not on the battlefields
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#48 Thanks Obama
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#71 Thanks Obama
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#39 Failure as a Way of Life; The logic of lost wars and military-industrial boondoggles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#53 Trump Is Right, Bush Lied: A Little-Known Part of the Bogus Case for War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#107 Qbasic - lies about Medicare
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#40 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#50 Iraqi WMDs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#81 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#125 Iraq War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#48 Report: Nearly $5 Trillion Spent on Iraq and Afghanistan Wars So Far
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#81 The baby boomers' monumental quagmire in Iraq
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#102 Chain of Title: How Three Ordinary Americans Uncovered Wall Street's Great Foreclosure Fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#86 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#33 CBS News: WikiLeaks claims to release thousands of CIA documents of computer activity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#42 Profitable Companies, No Taxes: Here's How They Did It
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#13 The Pentagon still uses computer software from 1958 to manage its contracts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#55 Should America Have Entered World War I?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#59 Breaking: Entire Nation Experiencing Collective Amnesia About Iraq War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#1 How Desert Storm Destroyed the US Military
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: [CM] What was your first home computer? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 10:08:25 -0700Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
The resource curse
https://journal.probeinternational.org/2004/09/10/resource-curse/
As the United States, the United Nations, and the Iraqi Governing
Council struggle to determine what form Iraq's next government should
take, there is one question that, more than any other, may prove
critical to the country's future: how to handle its vast oil wealth.
... snip ...
above was 2004, it is now coming up on almost 15yrs later and if anything, things have gotten worse
Beating the Resource Curse The Case of Botswana
http://documents.worldbank.org/curated/en/412021468227707937/pdf/multi0page.pdf
Reverse the Curse: Botswana as a Beacon of Hope, and an Economic Model
https://isrj.wordpress.com/2010/07/10/reverse-the-curse-botswana-as-a-beacon-of-hope-and-an-economic-model/
The Natural Resource Curse
http://voiceofdjibouti.com/the-natural-resource-curse/
Mining institutional quality: how Botswana escaped the natural resource curse
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/article/Indian-Journal-Economics-Business/169308056.html
Does the Resource Curse Inhibit States from Democratization?
http://www.academia.edu/7534603/Does_the_Resource_Curse_Inhibit_States_from_Democratization
The All-natural Resource Curse - Degree Level Situation Studies
http://studies.nu/the-all-natural-resource-curse-degree-level-situation-studies/
and
The New Confessions of an Economic Hit Man
https://www.amazon.com/New-Confessions-Economic-Hit-Man-ebook/dp/B017MZ8EBM/
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man
More Confessions of an Economic Hit Man: This Time, They're Coming for
Your Democracy
http://www.yesmagazine.org/new-economy/more-confessions-of-an-economic-hit-man-this-time-theyre-coming-for-your-democracy-20160318
The New Confessions of an Economic Hit Man
http://evonomics.com/the-new-confessions-of-an-economic-hit-man-perkins-reality/
military-industrial(-congressional) complex
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
as well as "Smedley Butler"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler
with "War Is a Racket"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket
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