From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 01 Jul, 2011 Subject: Cyberwar vs. Cyber-Espionage vs. Cybercrime Blog: Fear, Honor, and Interestre:
recent articles:
Breaches and Security, By the Numbers
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/424538/breaches-and-security-by-the-numbers/
Cyber attacks outpace global response, U.S. warns
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/01/us-cybercrime-idUSTRE7601JH20110701
Secret Service Reveals How It Stalks Cybercriminals
http://www.fastcompany.com/node/1764286
Hackers 'should fight cyber spies'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/8609295/Hackers-should-fight-cyber-spies.html
this is old post about attempting to do taxonomy from exploit cve
database:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#43
I talked to Mitre about possibly getting a little more structure into the reporting -- but (at the time) they said they were lucky getting any description at all.
Mitre CVE:
http://cve.mitre.org/
and NVD at nist:
http://nvd.nist.gov/
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Vector processors on the 3090 Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 1 Jul 2011 08:35:54 -0700lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) writes:
first top 500 doesn't have ibm mainframe
http://www.top500.org/list/1993/06/100/
old post w/s-computer sep86 list of supercomputers on bitnet (post
previously refed):
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000c.html#61 TF-1
lists a couple 3090/VF
posts in thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#68 IBM Mainframe (1980's) on You tube
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#69 IBM Mainframe (1980's) on You tube
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#70 IBM Mainframe (1980's) on You tube
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#72 Vector processors on the 3090
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#73 Vector processors on the 3090
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#74 Vector processors on the 3090
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 01 Jul, 2011 Subject: 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger Blog: Facebook'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger
from above:
'The bubble in America was caused by some combination of
megalomania, insanity and evil in, I would say, investment banking,
mortgage banking,' Munger, 87, said today at a conference in
Pasadena, California.
... snip ...
There was an "aha" moment during the bubble burst when investors realized that the rating agencies were selling triple-A ratings (on toxic CDOs) and wondered whether they could trust any of the ratings. This resulted in the muni-bond market "freezing". Buffett/Berkshire then stepped in with muni-bond insurance to unfreeze the market.
when Buffett made the muni-bond insurance announcement, he said that it wasn't totally altruistic, that he was planning on making profit (off investors afraid that they could no longer trust rating agencies, finding out that they were selling triple-A ratings on toxic CDOs)
misc. past posts reference Buffett's muni-bond insurance:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#20 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#29 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#8 The background reasons of Credit Crunch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#81 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#53 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#17 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#43 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#46 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#30 The first personal computer (PC)
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: pdp8 to PC- have we lost our way? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 16:11:12 -0400Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
CP67 and HASP was somewhat comparable source availability ... although incremental source updates were invented for CP67 and maintenance was done via source updates.
HASP and then JES2 started using the CP67 incremental source update process internally (as did VM370). The problem for JES2 was there was an internal MVS process and there was some contortion to translate the (CP67/VM370 based) incremental source update into the internal MVS process for product ship (which didn't include source maintenance for product/customers).
Recent post about JES2 networking issue ... in this case "pricing" as
application software in wake of 23Jun69 unbundling
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#62 Do you remember back to June 23, 1969 when IBM unbundled
JES2 inherited its networking support from HASP networking ... which
used spare entries in the (256-entry) psuedo-device table to define
node-ids. The HASP networking code carried the identifier "TUCC" out in
columns 68-71 (customer location where code originated).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#hasp
For the internal network, the HASP/JES2 networking support had whole set
of problems. First it had intermixed networking fields with job-control
fields ... interconnect between HASP/JES2 at different release levels
could result in crashing HASP/JES2 and bringing down the whole operating
system. HASP/JES2 would throw stuff away if it didn't have the
definition for either the destination or the origin node. Since standard
HASP/JES2 could have 60-80 psuedo-device entries (for psuedo unit record
printer/punch/reader devices), that left only 170-190 entries for
defining network nodes. The internal network had fairly quickly exceeded
200 network nodes (the internal network was larger than the
arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until late '85 or
possibly early '86)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
With hundreds of nodes all over the world, it was literally impossible to guarantee all nodes operating at the same software release level and with more nodes than could be defined by JES2, JES2 couldn't be trusted not to trash large amount of traffic (assuming it didn't crash the system). As a result, internal JES2 network nodes were restricted to edge-nodes behind some vm370 node.
VM370 networking grew up with clean separation of components ... so it was fairly easy to do a NJI driver that talked to JES2 (as alternative to native vm370 drivers). Internally a whole library of (vm370) NJI drivers grew up that would translate NJI header information into general form and then format for specific JES2 release that was on the other end of link. There was famous case of JES2 system in San Jose at one level crashing MVS/JES2 systems (at different level) in Hursley ... because the Hursley VM370 didn't have the correct NJI driver started to keep MVS/JES2 from crashing (and yes, they blamed the crashes on vm370).
As mentioned in the unbundling reference, when they went to announce the JES2 networking product ... they couldn't come up with pricing that resulted in covering the cost of the product. Now VM370 networking had a much larger customer install forecast and radically lower development&maint cost ... which initially resulted in "low price" of $30/month. The eventual "solution" was to announce as a "combined" product at $600/month ... effectively vm370 networking product underwriting cost of JES2 networking.
eventually, JES2 expanded maximum number of supported nodes to 999, but it wasn't until after the internal network was over 1000 nodes (and later still increased that to 1999 nodes after the internal network had passed 2000 nodes).
other posts in the recent unbundling thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#61 Do you remember back to June 23, 1969 when IBM unbundled
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#63 Do you remember back to June 23, 1969 when IBM unbundled
other unbundling posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle
old reference to Melinda looking for original CP67 implementation for
incremental source update:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#42 vmshare
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#48 vmshare
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#3 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Robert Morris, man who helped develop Unix, dies at 78 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 08:36:01 -0400Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk> writes:
actually was involved in looking at the exposure more than decade earlier (mid-70s, sending somebody an exec that they were to execute, which did things that they weren't aware of).
for the fun of it ... old post with example of typical xmas exec
greeting (w/o any hidden stuff) ... this one from 1981, had been
written in rexx and if (recipient ran) on 3279 would blink "lights" in
color (I've attempted to reproduce in html; at the moment, garlic.com
is down for another couple hrs doing some maint)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#54 An old fashioned Christmas
vmshare xmas exec ref 10dec87
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/browse.cgi?fn=CHRISTMA&ft=PROB
risk digest ref (by Joe Morris) on risk digest (21dec87)
http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/5.81.html#subj1
this was BITNET ... mostly ibm mainframes at institutions of higher
learning in the US ... interconnected with similar EARN in europe
... misc. past posts mentioning BITNET/EARN
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet
it used technology similar to internal network (which was larger than
arpanet/internet from just about beginning until possibly late '85 or
early '86) ... misc. past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
recent post with reference to mainframe networking technology
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#3 pdp8 to PC- have we lost our way?
morris worm (nov88)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_worm
past posts mentioning morris worm & xmas exec
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#87 CompUSA to Close after Jan. 1st 2008
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#2 folklore indeed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#58 Linux zSeries questions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#26 CA ESD files Options
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#44 Two views of Microkernels (Re: Kernels
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#28 Mainframe Hacking -- Fact or Fiction
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#9 'Here you have' email worm spreads quickly
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#73 Mainframe hacking?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#9 Rare Apple I computer sells for $216,000 in London
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#50 IBM and the Computer Revolution
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#24 Fear the Internet, was Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Robert Morris, man who helped develop Unix, dies at 78 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 08:55:38 -0400Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk> writes:
old reference to long ago and far away (4th flr)
https://web.archive.org/web/20090117083033/http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtml
which i didn't learn about until much later ... but I guess might have
represented something of rivalry between 4th flr and 5th flr; 5th floor
reference:
https://www.multicians.org/site-dockmaster.html
recent reference to (other) small rivalry between 4th flr and 5th flr:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#70 IBM Mainframe (1980's) on You tube
more from 5th flr:
https://www.multicians.org/multics.html
semi-related recent thread (both 4th flr and 5th flr trace back to CTSS)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#44 OT The inventor of Email - Tom Van Vleck
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#49 OT The inventor of Email - Tom Van Vleck
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#51 Did My Brother Invent E-Mail With Tom Van Vleck?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#54 Did My Brother Invent E-Mail With Tom Van Vleck? (Part One)
other old posts about 5th floor:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#42 Thirty Years Later: Lessons from the Multics Security Evaluation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#44 Thirty Years Later: Lessons from the Multics Security Evaluation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#45 Thirty Years Later: Lessons from the Multics Security Evaluation
misc. past posts mentioning 545 tech sq
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Robert Morris, man who helped develop Unix, dies at 78 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 09:14:56 -0400re:
oh, recent reference to PROFS and iran/contra (congressional subpoena for
emails) ... executive branch wasn't the only gov. operation using PROFs
for email in the early 80s
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#73 We list every company in the world that has a mainframe computer
VMSG was an internal email client. The PROFS group picked up a very early 0.xx version of the source and used it for PROFS (wrapped a bunch of menu stuff around various applications). Later, when the VMSG author contacted the PROFS group with offer for much enhanced, current version of the source, the PROFS group attempted to get him fired. The whole thing quieted down after it was shown that every PROFS email carried the VMSG author's initials in a non-displayed control field. After that, the VMSG author only shared the source with two other people.
misc. past posts mentioning PROFS &/or VMSG:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000c.html#46 Does the word "mainframe" still have a meaning?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#35 Newbie TOPS-10 7.03 question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#39 Newbie TOPS-10 7.03 question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#40 Newbie TOPS-10 7.03 question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002h.html#58 history of CMS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002h.html#59 history of CMS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002h.html#64 history of CMS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#50 CDC6600 - just how powerful a machine was it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#4 HONE, ****, misc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#34 VSE (Was: Re: Refusal to change was Re: LE and COBOL)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#45 hyperblock drift, was filesystem structure (long warning)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#69 Gartner Office Information Systems 6/2/89
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#56 Goodbye PROFS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003m.html#26 Microsoft Internet Patch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#13 Mainframe Virus ????
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#43 FULIST
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#23 sorting was: The System/360 Model 20 Wasn't As Bad As All That
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#4 Another BIG Mainframe Bites the Dust
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#42 vmshare
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#31 IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#32 IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#4 The Genealogy of the IBM PC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#13 Why is switch to DSL so traumatic?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#50 Using rexx to send an email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#29 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#54 An old fashioned Christmas
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#55 An old fashioned Christmas
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#46 Whitehouse Emails Were Lost Due to "Upgrade"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#59 Happy 20th Birthday, AS/400
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#8 Is SUN going to become x86'ed ??
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#16 Mainframe hacking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#41 another item related to ASCII vs. EBCDIC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#34 IBM Poughkeepsie?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#33 U.S. house decommissions its last mainframe, saves $730,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#38 U.S. house decommissions its last mainframe, saves $730,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#43 The 50th Anniversary of the Legendary IBM 1401
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#64 spool file tag data
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#1 DEC-10 SOS Editor Intra-Line Editing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#8 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#44 sysout using machine control instead of ANSI control
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#87 "The Naked Mainframe" (Forbes Security Article)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#97 "The Naked Mainframe" (Forbes Security Article)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#88 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#61 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#4 When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#45 Is email dead? What do you think?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#4 Is email dead? What do you think?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#10 Rare Apple I computer sells for $216,000 in London
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#65 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#67 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#83 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#81 A History of VM Performance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#82 A History of VM Performance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#13 I actually miss working at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#12 Multiple Virtual Memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#57 SNA/VTAM Misinformation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#77 Internet pioneer Paul Baran
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#88 Would mainframe technology be relevant in the age of cloud computing?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#92 PDCA vs. OODA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#95 VM IS DEAD
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#11 History of APL -- Software Preservation Group
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#73 We list every company in the world that has a mainframe computer
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 03 Jul, 2011 Subject: Do you remember back to June 23, 1969 when IBM unbundled Blog: IBMersre:
There was sort of sequence with litigation and the (23jun69) unbundling announcement and starting to charge for (application) software (but not kernel software), then the side-track into FS (and killing off various 370 development) which allowed clone processors to gain market foothold, then the death of FS and mad rush to get stuff back into the 370 hardware and software product pipelines.
The clone processor competition contributed to decision to start charging for kernel software which went thru several stages ... until all kernel software was being charged for. After transition to charging for all kernel software ... there then was announcement for transition to OCO and the OCO-wars (i.e. object code only). This was especially traumatic for vm370/cms customers since it had history (dating back to cp67) of providing software maintenance in source code (with a process of incremental source updates that had been developed for cp67).
I had continued doing 360/370 stuff through the FS period (periodic
ridiculing FS activities ... even claiming some of the stuff I had
running was better than their vaporware descriptions; possibly not the
best career enhancing). Recent discussion/thread (IBM Mainframe 1980's
on You tube) in customer ibm-main mailing list
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#70
and in a.f.c. newsgroup
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#75
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 03 Jul, 2011 Subject: 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger Blog: Facebookre:
and ..
Too Big to Fail: Inside America's Economic Downfall
http://www.creditloan.com/blog/too-big-to-fail-inside-americas-economic-downfall/
from above:
Most call it one of the biggest financial crisis in living
memory. Others call it one great big Ponzi scheme. Whatever you want
to call it, a bunch of people lost a bunch of money and the world of
high finance may never be the same. But don't worry --
that doesn't mean that we've fixed all these problems
or punished the people responsible. It just means that next time you
can't get a loan or a higher credit limit, the banks will have
an excuse.
... snip ...
recent mention of internet bubble
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#59 SSL digital certificates
financial bubble, some overlap with this old article
25 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html
past posts mentioning the above:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#38 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#39 'WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GLOBAL MELTDOWN'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#49 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#53 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#55 Who will give Citigroup the KNOCKOUT blow?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#65 is it possible that ALL banks will be nationalized?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#10 Who will Survive AIG or Derivative Counterparty Risk?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#28 I need insight on the Stock Market
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#61 Quiz: Evaluate your level of Spreadsheet risk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#62 Is Wall Street World's Largest Ponzi Scheme where Madoff is Just a Poster Child?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#63 Do bonuses foster unethical conduct?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#73 Should Glass-Steagall be reinstated?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#0 What is swap in the financial market?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#8 The background reasons of Credit Crunch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#13 Should we fear and hate derivatives?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#23 Should FDIC or the Federal Reserve Bank have the authority to shut down and take over non-bank financial institutions like AIG?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#35 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#29 What is the real basis for business mess we are facing today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#38 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#51 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#53 What every taxpayer should know about what caused the current Financial Crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#5 Do the current Banking Results in the US hide a grim truth?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#7 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#33 Treating the Web As an Archive
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#76 Undoing 2000 Commodity Futures Modernization Act
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#17 REGULATOR ROLE IN THE LIGHT OF RECENT FINANCIAL SCANDALS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#54 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#60 In the USA "financial regulator seeks power to curb excess speculation."
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#74 Administration calls for financial system overhaul
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#77 Financial Regulatory Reform - elimination of loophole allowing special purpose institutions outside Bank Holding Company (BHC) oversigh
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#16 TIME's Annual Journey: 1989
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#18 Another one bites the dust
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#21 The Big Takeover
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#30 An Amazing Document On Madoff Said To Have Been Sent To SEC In 2005
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#35 what is mortgage-backed securities?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#5 Internal fraud isn't new, but it's news
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#56 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#84 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#51 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#77 Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#47 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#82 Oldest Instruction Set still in daily use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#92 Who's to Blame for the Meltdown?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#54 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#28 Our Pecora Moment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#67 The Python and the Mongoose: it helps if you know the rules of engagement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#38 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#36 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#29 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#9 I actually miss working at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#36 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#38 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#40 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#52 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#25 US Housing Crisis Is Now Worse Than Great Depression
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#29 Obama: "We don't have enough engineers"
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 03 Jul, 2011 Subject: At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened Blog: Mainframe Expertsre:
various of the operations that operate mega-datcenters with hundreds of thousands of blades have published various articles about their selections ... detailed studies of commodity priced parts for MTBF, life-expectancy, price/performance, energy consumption, etc. There are some claims that they managed to build much better infrastructure with carefully selected commodity priced components & at 1/3rd the cost of off-the-shelf "branded" blades. availability is then built into the infrastructure fabric (as opposed to any specific blade; aka build the best MTBF for individual blades out of commodity parts and then gain additional availability by having enormous numbers of replicated blades ... followed by replicated medga-datacenters). Virtualization is also playing larger & larger role in availability technologies for these operations
there is new industry of "container" computing ... standard shipping
container jam-packed with blades, cooling, power ... with
mega-datacenters then might have hundreds of such containers. on
article on the industry from 2yrs ago (even IBM is playing) ... there
is mention that SUN (now Oracle) was first to offer (with 280
quad-core processors)
http://www.datacentermap.com/blog/datacenter-container-55.html
more recent article:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/02/cisco_containerized_data_center/
mega-datacenter pue comparison
http://www.vertatique.com/mega-data-centers-boom-or-bust
this has 256 quad-core XEON 5400 in single rack (again from 2yrs ago)
http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/data-center-facilities/data-center-high-density-vs-low-density-is-there-a-paradox/
more recent, facebook giving away its mega-datacenter design
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/423570/facebook-opens-up-its-hardware-secrets/
and
http://opencompute.org/
Jim Gray was instrumental in forming TPC (initially with TPC-A) after
leaving IBM Research for Tandem
http://www.tpc.org/information/about/history.asp
old references to Jim palming off some number of things as he was leaving:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#email801006 ,
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#email801016
consulting with IMS development group, interface to customers running
System/R, etc ... some number of past posts mentioning original
relational/sql
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr
current is TPC-C
http://www.tpc.org/tpcc/default.asp
TPC-E
http://www.tpc.org/tpce/default.asp
and TPC-H
http://www.tpc.org/tpch/default.asp
you don't see mainframe. If anything, it seems like IBM is trying to revitalize mainframe by infusing it with technologies from other environments. Gov. labs. I remember in the 90s moving off mainframes they were perfectly happy with ... because their existing support staff was retiring and they couldn't find replacements (visiting labs when announcements were made and listening about having open positions for over a year that they were unable to backfill). Part of the issue was Y2K was then happening same time as internet bubble ... internet startups were offering enormous compensation and financial industry was outbidding nearly everybody else for dwindling mainframe skills.
Blade Server Demand Driving High-Density Zones
http://esj.com/articles/2011/03/22/high-density-zones.aspx
blade servers
http://www.thinkmate.com/systems/supermicro/superblade
high-density blade servers
http://www.tyan.com/solutions/high_density_blade_servers.aspx
Supercomputing beyond academia
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1024876/supercomputing-academia
there tends to be some overlap between high-density blade servers, datacenter "containers", power and cooling efficiencies, etc (with advances in particular areas helping drive advances in other areas. The evolution of the mega-datacenters having helped drive all areas (hundreds of thousands of processors with millions of cores). Potentially some of these individual mega-datacenters may have more computing capacity than the aggregate of all currently installed mainframes. It then would be natural for mainframes to start to look more & more like such operations (trivial example archaic, obsolete CKD DASD are now all simulated on real FBA disks).
misc. past posts mentioning mega datacenters:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#72 Price of CPU seconds
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#68 VMware Chief Says the OS Is History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#79 Google Data Centers 'The Most Efficient In The World'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#56 IBM drops Power7 drain in 'Blue Waters'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#90 A Faster Way to the Cloud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#78 Entry point for a Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#27 A "portable" hard disk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#62 taking down the machine - z9 series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#51 Mainframe Hacking -- Fact or Fiction
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#14 Facebook doubles the size of its first data center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#3 When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#46 The first personal computer (PC)
past posts in this thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#15 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#16 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#17 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#19 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#32 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#33 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#35 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#37 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#39 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#42 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#45 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#46 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#8 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#27 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#32 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Vector processors on the 3090 Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 4 Jul 2011 09:28:43 -0700rkuebbin@TSYS.COM (Kirk Talman) writes:
from above:
Although the Model 44 processing units is about the same in physical size
(Figure 1) as that of its nearest neighbor, the Model 50, its
performance on problems for which it is optimized is 30 to 60 per cent
faster than that of Model 50.
... snip ...
and:
Processor storage speed for the Model 44 is 1 microsecond. Four bytes
(one word or two halfwords) are stored or fetched in each
access. Processor stroage, alwasy housed within the CPU, is availabe in
the four capacities shown at the top of Figure 3.
Data paths throughout the CPU are one word wide.
... snip ...
functional characteristic for 360/40 (also on bitsaver) has two-byte datapaths
bitsaver is missing 360/50 functional characteristics
360/65 had 8byte data paths with 750ns memory
low-end & mid-range 360s (up to 360/50) had integrated channels, higher-end 360s (starting with 360/65) had external channels
past posts in these threads:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#68 IBM Mainframe (1980's) on You tube
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#69 IBM Mainframe (1980's) on You tube
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#70 IBM Mainframe (1980's) on You tube
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#72 Vector processors on the 3090
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#73 Vector processors on the 3090
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#74 Vector processors on the 3090
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#1 Vector processors on the 3090
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 04 Jul, 2011 Subject: 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger Blog: Facebookre:
CBS had segment circa 2002 or 2003 that one of the GSEs had more lobbyists than employees ... everybody that had ever been congressman, congressional staffer and/or in anyway related to congress were offered lobbying retainer. That was somewhat motivation for proposed legislation two yrs ago to make it illegal for GSEs to lobby. However, toxic CDOs held by just four largest too-big-to-fail institutions totally dwarfed GSEs (& TARP funds). It was so large that could only be handled behind the scenes by Federal Reserve.
past posts mentioning CBS & GSEs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#0 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#2 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#10 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#42 Productivity And Bubbles
misc other past posts mentioning GSEs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#76 lack of information accuracy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#1 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#12 Fraud due to stupid failure to test for negative
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#15 Fraud due to stupid failure to test for negative
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#16 Fraud due to stupid failure to test for negative
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#17 Fraud due to stupid failure to test for negative
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#75 Fraud due to stupid failure to test for negative
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#76 When risks go south: FM&FM to be nationalized
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#78 When risks go south: FM&FM to be nationalized
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#80 Fraud due to stupid failure to test for negative
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#81 Fraud due to stupid failure to test for negative
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#83 Fraud due to stupid failure to test for negative
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#85 Fraud due to stupid failure to test for negative
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#86 WSJ finds someone to blame.... be skeptical, and tell the WSJ to grow up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#87 Fraud due to stupid failure to test for negative
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#92 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#7 Michigan industry
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#14 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#24 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#33 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#37 Success has many fathers, but failure has the US taxpayer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#27 The Zippo Lighter theory of the financial crisis (or, who do we want to blame?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#43 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#45 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#24 US Housing Crisis Is Now Worse Than Great Depression
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#29 Obama: "We don't have enough engineers"
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 15:56:12 -0400Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
it seems that part of this was the past couple years that many states used the federal stimulus funds to cover their part of medicaid funding. The overbilling and outright fraud is significantly more prevalent in some states.
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 04 Jul, 2011 Subject: 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger Blog: Facebookre:
big reason for triple-A rated toxic CDOs was open up mortgages to much
larger market (than GSEs and w/o the qualifications & restrictions
required by GSEs) .. and the estimated $27T in triple-A toxic CDO
transactions (done during the bubble) had enormous fees & commissions
to wall street (that didn't exist with straight GSE mortgage
purchases). Estimate that wallstreet tripled in size (as percent of
GDP) during bubble and wallsteet bonuses spiked over 400% during
bubble.
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-27/evil-wall-street-exports-boomed-with-fools-born-to-buy-debt
Bank of America Fights to Deflect Fraud Investigations
http://www.thewire.com/business/2011/06/bank-america-fraud-investigation-hindered/38793/
The battle is intensifying to hold Bank of America accountable for
faulty foreclosures that may have scammed taxpayers out of billions is
intensifying on a state level. In a lawsuit filed by the state of
Arizona against the nation's largest lender, a federal auditor says
that Bank of America "significantly hindered" a review of its
foreclosure practices on loans insured by the Federal Housing
Administration.
misc. past posts mentioning estimatae $27T in triple-A toxic
CDO transactions and/or 400% spike in wallstreet bonuses (during
bubble)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#8 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#16 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#28 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#0 PNC Financial to pay CEO $3 million stock bonus
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#3 Congress Set to Approve Pay Cap of $500,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#59 Quiz: Evaluate your level of Spreadsheet risk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#62 Is Wall Street World's Largest Ponzi Scheme where Madoff is Just a Poster Child?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#8 The background reasons of Credit Crunch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#23 Should FDIC or the Federal Reserve Bank have the authority to shut down and take over non-bank financial institutions like AIG?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#41 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#49 Is the current downturn cyclic or systemic?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#56 What's your personal confidence level concerning financial market recovery?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#65 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#1 Future of Financial Mathematics?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#5 Do the current Banking Results in the US hide a grim truth?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#27 Flawed Credit Ratings Reap Profits as Regulators Fail Investors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#3 Consumer Credit Crunch and Banking Writeoffs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#10 China's yuan 'set to usurp US dollar' as world's reserve currency
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#25 The Paradox of Economic Recovery
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#29 Analysing risk, especially credit risk in Banks, which was a major reason for the current crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#49 IBM to Build Europe, Asia 'Smart Infrastructure'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#60 In the USA "financial regulator seeks power to curb excess speculation."
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#35 what is mortgage-backed securities?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#15 The Revolving Door and S.E.C. Enforcement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#42 "Fraud & Stupidity Look a Lot Alike"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#48 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#33 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#40 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#22 60 Minutes News Report:Unemployed for over 99 weeks!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#24 What Is MERS and What Role Does It Have in the Foreclosure Mess?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#59 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#70 Compressing the OODA-Loop - Removing the D (and maybe even an O)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#6 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#27 WikiLeaks' Wall Street Bombshell
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#48 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#80 Chinese and Indian Entrepreneurs Are Eating America's Lunch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#27 The Zippo Lighter theory of the financial crisis (or, who do we want to blame?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#42 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#23 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#34 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#7 I actually miss working at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#11 Multiple Virtual Memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#21 End of an era
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#36 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#48 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#60 In your opinon, what is the highest risk of financial fraud for a corporation ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#43 Massive Fraud, Common Crime, No Prosecutions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#66 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#71 Pressing Obama, House Bars Rise for Debt Ceiling
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#26 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#29 Obama: "We don't have enough engineers"
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 10:14:08 -0400greymaus <greymausg@mail.com> writes:
60mins had segment on medicare part-d legislation ... focusing on 18 congressmen&staffers that were instrumental in shepherding the bill through. Right at the end, they insert one liner that eliminates competitive bidding and they block distribution of CBO report that takes into account that change. 60mins then show side-by-side identical drugs, from veterans administration and medicare part-d ... the VA (allowing competitive bidding) drugs are 1/3rd the price of the same drugs under medicare part-d. they also found that all 18 (that sheperded the bill thru) within 6-12 months had resigned and were on drug company payrolls.
the comptroller general was on program that medicare part-d comes to represent $40T unfunded mandate ... totally swamping all other budget items ... and the bill was passed shortly after congress let the fiscal responsibility act expire.
random news item:
CHART OF THE DAY: 'Out Of Control Spending'
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/07/chart-of-the-day-out-of-control-spending-not-really-out-of-control-at-all.php?ref=fpa
misc. past posts mention medicare part-d:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#61 Health Care
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#0 Oldest Instruction Set still in daily use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#34 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#35 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#46 not even sort of about The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#66 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#72 77,000 federal workers paid more than governors
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 10:44:43 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
in addition, the comptroller general also pointed out that the massive tax cuts also occurred shortly after fiscal responsibility act expired (big decreases in revenue coupled with big increases in liabilities & spending)
some number of past posts mentioning comptroller general:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#41 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#44 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#9 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#14 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#27 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#2 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#3 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#4 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#17 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#19 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#33 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#61 Health Care
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#17 Health Care
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#0 Cray-1 Anniversary Event - September 21st
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#26 Universal constants
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#20 IBM Unionization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#91 IBM Unionization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#19 Another "migration" from the mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#74 Horrid thought about Politics, President Bush, and Democrats
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#22 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#7 what does xp do when system is copying
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#1 Translation of IBM Basic Assembler to C?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#13 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#14 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#15 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#24 Translation of IBM Basic Assembler to C?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#25 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#33 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#35 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#26 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#57 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#40 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#50 fraying infrastructure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#86 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#1 The Workplace War for Age and Talent
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#3 America's Prophet of Fiscal Doom
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#26 The Return of Ada
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#98 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#8 Taxcuts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#9 Taxcuts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#17 Michigan industry
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#20 What is the real basis for business mess we are facing today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#55 Hexadecimal Kid - articles from Computerworld wanted
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#86 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#87 IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#36 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#37 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#39 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#60 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#3 Oldest Instruction Set still in daily use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#9 Oldest Instruction Set still in daily use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#23 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#34 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#46 not even sort of about The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#79 Idiotic take on Bush tax cuts expiring
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#66 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#69 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#75 origin of 'fields'?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#72 77,000 federal workers paid more than governors
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 06 Jul, 2011 Subject: 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger Blog: Facebookre:
GSEs bought mortgages directly ... recent reference
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/fannie-mae-silence-on-taylor-bean-mortgages-opened-way-to-3-billion-fraud.html
... $27T in triple-A rated toxic CDOs transactions was to open mortgage market to other customers. Buying triple-A rating also enabled no-documentation mortgages (eliminated need for most supporting documentation). It also created enormous (new) fees and commissions in many quarters.
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 07 Jul, 2011 Subject: Got to remembering... the really old geeks (like me) cut their teeth on Unit Record Blog: Old Geekre:
box/tray of cards &/or coffee cups on top of 1403N1 printer ... cover would automatically lift when ran out of paper (see above post on porting 1401 MPIO to 360/30 in assembler ... eventually box of cards). carton of cards would have been five boxes.
IBM at bitsavers:
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/
... 1401 & unit record:
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/140x/
and 144x
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/144x/
and then
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/punchedCard/
which as the following directory/folders:
AccountingMachine/ CardControlledTapePunch/ Collator/ DocumentOriginatingMachine/ ElectronicStatisticalMachine/ Interpreter/ Keypunch/ Punches/ Sorter/ Tabulator/ Training/ Verifier/... snip ...
magic marker diagonal line across top of deck of cards from one corner of the top to the opposite corner. new cards added &/or replaced would be unmarked ... so periodically remark the deck.
originally when CP67 was installed at the univ (jan68), the source was on os/360 and assembled there. assembly of each source module would produce a "TXT" (binary/executable) deck. They would be arranged in card tray. Rebuild the kernel required ipl/boot the card deck. (loaded into memory, it would write the memory image to disk for IPL).
Each "TXT" deck would have diagonal line plus the name of the module (with magic marker). Update the source image on os/360, re-assemble, take new TXT deck, mark it across the top and replace the corresponding deck in the card tray, reboot the whole card tray, and then reboot the system from disk.
As CMS became more reliable, the source was moved from OS/360 to CMS (running in virtual machine). Each individual source image could be assembled on CMS producing a TXT file. A CMS exec would "punch" the "TXT" files to the virtual punch which was setup to "transfer" to the virtual reader (rather than going to "real" punch). The virtual reader could be IPL'ed and the virtual memory image written to the real disk (which could then be "real" IPLed). The process continued with vm370 for another couple decades.
The source routines were sequenced by 100 and the CMS editor could resequence each file after editing (new, changed, deleted card images). Each source file had assembler "ISEQ 73,80" at the start of the file (instructions to the assembler to check sequential numbers in cols. 73-80 ... left over from real card days).
A incremental source change process was then started. Rather than edit the source file and resequence the whole file, a "update" file was edited ... which specified changes to the original source based on sequence numbers (insert, replace, delete). The CMS UPDATE program would apply an update file to the original source, producing a temporary source file that was assembled ... producing a TXT deck. If you were inserting more cards than sequence could provide for, you replaced adacent cards that were renumbered to gain the additional sequence numbers. Originally, the edit update process required person manually type the sequence numbers in the new/replaced cards. Early on, I wrote a preprocessor to the update program that would manually put in appropriate sequence numbers before invoking the UPDATE program.
Then a process was created that could apply multiple different
incremental updates sequentially ... producing the temporary source
file. CP67 and then VM370 customers were use to maintenance being
shipped in incremental update source form ... so when OCO
(object-code-only) was eventually announced in the early 80s, it was
especially traumatic. Recent post mentioning OCO-wars from a
(linkedin) IBMers thread: "Do you remember back to June 23, 1969 when
IBM unbundled"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#7
a more lengthy recent post in a.f.c. about CP67 system build process
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#3
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 08:41:38 -0400Morten Reistad <first@last.name> writes:
so eventually passed overwhelmingly 90-8-2 ... resulting in veto being a
meaningless act.
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html
but it wasn't just Mr. & GLBA ... Mrs. & Commodity Futures Modernization
Act also involved ... some additonal background ... long winded post
from (linkedin) Financial Crime, Risk, Fraud and Security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#52
misc. other past posts with pieces of the above litany
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#54 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#28 Our Pecora Moment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#67 The Python and the Mongoose: it helps if you know the rules of engagement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#38 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#36 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#29 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
On the floor of congress, the rhetoric about primary purpose of GLBA was that if you were already a (regulated) bank, you got to remain a bank, but if you weren't already a bank, you didn't get to become one (specifically calling out walmart & m'soft wouldn't get to become banks). Later TARP was passed to bail out the financial crash ... but the amount appropriated would hardly make a dent in the problem. So the Federal Reserve aggresively stepped-in behind the scenes to try and make the too-big-to-fail whole again. Problem was that Federal Reserve could only provide some amount of help for regulated chartered banks ... and some of the too-big-to-fail institutions weren't regulated chartered banks ... so Federal Reserve just gave them bank charters (which would theoretically have been precluded by GLBA).
Early spring 2009, I was contacted about HTML'ing the Pecora hearings
(senate hearings leading up to Glass-Steagall, had been scanned at the
Boston Public Library the previous fall) with extensive indexing,
croos-references and URLs between what happened then and what happened
this time (some anticipation that the new congress might have some
appetite to do something). After working on it for a couple months, got
a call saying it wouldn't be needed after all (implication that new
congress was being heavily lobbied by financial community). Misc. past
posts mentioning Pecora hearings:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#58 OCR scans of old documents
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#59 As bonuses...why breed greed, when others are in dire need?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#62 Is Wall Street World's Largest Ponzi Scheme where Madoff is Just a Poster Child?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#73 Should Glass-Steagall be reinstated?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#77 Who first mentioned Credit Crunch?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#8 The background reasons of Credit Crunch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#23 Should FDIC or the Federal Reserve Bank have the authority to shut down and take over non-bank financial institutions like AIG?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#40 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#56 What's your personal confidence level concerning financial market recovery?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#65 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#5 Do the current Banking Results in the US hide a grim truth?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#33 Treating the Web As an Archive
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#22 China's yuan 'set to usurp US dollar' as world's reserve currency
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#25 The Paradox of Economic Recovery
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#29 Analysing risk, especially credit risk in Banks, which was a major reason for the current crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#40 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#57 In the USA "financial regulator seeks power to curb excess speculation."
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#35 what is mortgage-backed securities?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#23 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#2 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#20 U.K. lags in information security management practices
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#25 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#53 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#73 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#6 Bookshelves under BookMangler
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#54 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#28 Our Pecora Moment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#52 Our Pecora Moment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#67 The Python and the Mongoose: it helps if you know the rules of engagement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#68 Our Pecora Moment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#69 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#73 Our Pecora Moment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#74 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#4 Goldman Sachs -- Post SEC complaint. What's next?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#16 Fake debate: The Senate will not vote on big banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#77 Favourite computer history books?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#7 Seeking *Specific* Implementation of Star Trek Game
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#17 History--automated payroll processing by other than a computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#38 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#8 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#67 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#36 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#59 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#7 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#16 Rare Apple I computer sells for $216,000 in London
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#54 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#59 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#16 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#29 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#53 Programmer Charged with thieft (maybe off topic)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#49 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#84 The Imaginot Line
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#42 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#43 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#45 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#53 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#19 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#27 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#36 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#6 Home prices may drop another 25%, Shiller predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#24 US Housing Crisis Is Now Worse Than Great Depression
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#25 US Housing Crisis Is Now Worse Than Great Depression
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#29 Obama: "We don't have enough engineers"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#55 CISO's Guide to Breach Notification
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#8 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 09:25:12 -0400Morten Reistad <first@last.name> writes:
CDOs had been used during the S&L crisis ... with fraudulent supporting documents ... the scams didn't find a large market ... in part because they lacked a credible rating. Around 2000, we were asked to look at methods for improving the integrity and trust in CDO supporting documents.
besides:
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html
there is also:
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877339,00.html
note that it still isn't over (above reference to only $8.7B when there
was an estimated $27T in triple-A rated toxic CDO transactions):
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#2 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#8 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#11 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#13 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#16 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#13 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger
includes reference to recent item:
Bank of America Fights to Deflect Fraud Investigations
http://www.thewire.com/business/2011/06/bank-america-fraud-investigation-hindered/38793/
There was congressional hearings in the fall 2008 into the role that the rating agencies played in the financial bubble&collapse with testimony that rating agencies were selling triple-A ratings for toxic CDOs. One of the things that the triple-A ratings enabled was loan orginators could do no-documentation loans (since investors would look at the toxic CDO triple-A rating and not look any further). Eliminating need for supporting documents then also eliminated any issue about improving their trust and integrity.
Now, Commodities Futures Trading Modernization act also enabled ENRON (as per recent references to both Mr. & Mrs.). In the wake of ENRON, congress passed Sarbanes-Oxley ... which is mostly noted for enormous increase (big costs) in audit requirements ... but still required SEC to be doing something. However, in the congressional hearings into Madoff by the person that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get congress to do something about Madoff, SEC didn't appear to be doing much. Also, possibly because GAO didn't think that SEC was doing anything, GAO was doing reports of public company financial filings that showed uptic in fraudulent filings ... despite all the additional Sarbanes-Oxley audits (recent item from web: Enron was a dry run and it worked so well it has become institutionalized). A "snide" multiple-choice: 1) SOX had no effect on fraudulent filings, 2) SOX motivated the increase in fraudulent filings, 3) if it wasn't for SOX, all public company financial filings would be fraudulent.
It turns out that another provision in Sarbanes-Oxley was SEC to do something about rating agencies.
misc. past posts menioning GAO reports on public company financial
filings and/or what SEC did regarding rating agencies:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#96 Bush - place in history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#25 IBM's 2Q2008 Earnings
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#68 Blinkenlights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#71 Why is sub-prime crisis of America called the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#8 Global Melt Down
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#19 Collateralized debt obligations (CDOs)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#8 Top financial firms of US are eyeing on bailout. It implies to me that their "Risk Management Department's" assessment was way below expectations
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#9 Blind-sided, again. Why?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#20 Five great technological revolutions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#24 Garbage in, garbage out trampled by Moore's law
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#30 How reliable are the credit rating companies? Who is over seeing them?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#15 What are the challenges in risk analytics post financial crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#52 The Credit Crunch: Why it happened?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#73 CROOKS and NANNIES: what would Boyd do?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#37 A great article was posted in another BI group: "To H*** with Business Intelligence: 40 Percent of Execs Trust Gut"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#54 In your opinion, which facts caused the global crise situation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#57 Credit & Risk Management ... go Simple ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#59 As bonuses...why breed greed, when others are in dire need?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#73 What can we learn from the meltdown?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#80 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#1 Audit II: Two more scary words: Sarbanes-Oxley
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#0 PNC Financial to pay CEO $3 million stock bonus
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#37 NEW SEC (Enforcement) MANUAL, A welcome addition
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#42 Bernard Madoff Is Jailed After Pleading Guilty -- are there more "Madoff's" out there?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#62 Is Wall Street World's Largest Ponzi Scheme where Madoff is Just a Poster Child?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#73 Should Glass-Steagall be reinstated?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#51 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#7 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#33 Treating the Web As an Archive
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#60 In the USA "financial regulator seeks power to curb excess speculation."
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#12 IBM identity manager goes big on role control
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#15 The Revolving Door and S.E.C. Enforcement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#16 The Revolving Door and S.E.C. Enforcement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#67 The Python and the Mongoose: it helps if you know the rules of engagement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#48 "Fraud & Stupidity Look a Lot Alike"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#84 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#46 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#38 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#35 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#7 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#68 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#31 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#42 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#36 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#35 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 10:32:37 -0400re:
as per:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#14 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#15 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
there was combination of tax reduction and increased spending after fiscal responsiblity act expired in early part of century
this has graphs of total tax collection as percent of GDP and just
corporate (total) tax collection as percent of GDP (compared to 25 some
other countries):
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/07/05/260535/graph-corporate-tax-second-lowest/
in 2008 there was TV news segment with roundtable of economists at some conference ... they made case for flat-tax
1) exemptions are major source of lobbying as well as fraud and corruption in our legislative process (i.e. high rate with exemptions producing very low effective rate creates environment that encourages corporations to spend large amounts on congress ... significantly contributing to observation that congress is the most corrupt institution on earth)
2) exemptions result in 65,000+ page tax code ... flat-tax would change that to 400 or so page tax code ... change could improve GDP productivity by possibly six percent (lost resources dealing with complexity of current code, non-optimial business decisions influenced by tax code provisions). improved productivity more than offsets any lost benefits with elimination of specific exemptions (costs dealing with the number of exemptions more than offsets the benefit of examptions ... other than financial benefit to members of congress).
lobbying isn't limited to just tax-code benefits ... as per the special
non-competitive bid clause in medicare part-d ... aka
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#14 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
misc. past posts mentioning benefits of changing tax-code to flat-rate
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#87 Fraud due to stupid failure to test for negative
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#43 VMware Chief Says the OS Is History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#44 VMware Chief Says the OS Is History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#53 Are the "brightest minds in finance" finally onto something?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#83 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#20 China's yuan 'set to usurp US dollar' as world's reserve currency
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#13 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#31 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#48 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#37 taking down the machine - z9 series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#58 History--automated payroll processing by other than a computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#69 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#73 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#14 Rare Apple I computer sells for $216,000 in London
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#74 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#18 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#8 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 11:08:39 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
note that the S&L crisis was change in S&L regulation ... one was cutting the reserves in half (presidential directed "economic stimulus") and another was drastically reducing S&L regulation and oversight.
The reduction in S&L regulation and oversight resulted in nearly anybody
could buy an S&L and then make all sorts of personal loans
... drastically opening for conflict of interests (lots of loans to bank
owners and officials at little or no interest ... which might default
with no adverse actions). From "Two Million Dollar Meltdown":
... it was possible for a single individual to take control of an S&L,
then organize and lend to multiple subsidiaries -- for land acquisition,
construction, building management, and the like -- and create his own
small real estate empire entirely with depositors' money.
... snip ...
a couple recent refs to book:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#59 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#76 The Two Trillion Dollar Meltdown: Easy Money, High Rollers, and the Great Credit Crash
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#40 Delinquent Homeowners to Get Mortgage Aid from Government
There were lots of snide remarks in the wake of the S&L crisis about qualifications for being an S&L official in a heavy regulated and stable industry. With the S&L de-regulation and cutting reserves in half, there were all these officials that found themselves in very unfamiliar waters. One of the issues was decisions on how to invest all the recently released reserves ... among other things, it turns out that they were sitting ducks for the investment bankers that swooped in with junk bonds.
There is industry folklore about the S&L regulator refused to do what the president asked. That S&L regulator was asked to resign and was replaced by appointee that did do as directed ... he is frequently named as major factor in S&L crisis (doing what the president asked). He is cited in "Two Million Dollar Meltdown".
misc. past posts mentioning S&L crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#49 Value of an old IBM PS/2 CL57 SX Laptop
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#59 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#13 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#71 Bush - place in history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#79 Bush - place in history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#86 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#4 CDOs subverting Boyd's OODA-loop
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#51 IBM CEO's remuneration last year ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#57 Credit crisis could cost nearly $1 trillion, IMF predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#59 Credit crisis could cost nearly $1 trillion, IMF predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#64 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#1 subprime write-down sweepstakes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#8a Using Military Philosophy to Drive High Value Sales
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#28 subprime write-down sweepstakes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#32 subprime write-down sweepstakes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#48 subprime write-down sweepstakes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#49 subprime write-down sweepstakes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#89 Credit Crisis Timeline
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#4 A Merit based system of reward -Does anybody (or any executive) really want to be judged on merit?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#30 subprime write-down sweepstakes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#64 Is the credit crunch a short term aberation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#77 Do you think the change in bankrupcy laws has exacerbated the problems in the housing market leading more people into forclosure?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#104 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#23 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#38 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#69 lack of information accuracy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#11 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#18 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#33 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008l.html#67 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#12 Fraud due to stupid failure to test for negative
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#26 Fraud due to stupid failure to test for negative
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#92 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#95 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#99 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#14 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#24 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#37 Success has many fathers, but failure has the US taxpayer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#49 VMware Chief Says the OS Is History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#56 VMware Chief Says the OS Is History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#69 Another quiet week in finance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#74 Why can't we analyze the risks involved in mortgage-backed securities?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#14 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#15 Financial Crisis - the result of uncontrolled Innovation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#18 Once the dust settles, do you think Milton Friedman's economic theories will be laid to rest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#19 What's your view of current global financial / economical situation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#26 SOX (Sarbanes-Oxley Act), is this really followed and worthful considering current Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#28 Does anyone get the idea that those responsible for containing this finanical crisis are doing too much?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#39 The human plague
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#52 Why is sub-prime crisis of America called the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#65 Can the financial meltdown be used to motivate sustainable development in order to achieve sustainable growth and desired sustainability?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#75 In light of the recent financial crisis, did Sarbanes-Oxley fail to work?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#78 Who murdered the financial system?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#80 Can we blame one person for the financial meltdown?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#82 Greenspan testimony and securization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#8 Global Melt Down
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#9 Do you believe a global financial regulation is possible?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#47 In Modeling Risk, the Human Factor Was Left Out
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#60 Did sub-prime cause the financial mess we are in?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#11 Blinkenlights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#19 Collateralized debt obligations (CDOs)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#20 How is Subprime crisis impacting other Industries?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#26 Blinkenlights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#57 Blinkenlights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#67 What is securitization and why are people wary of it ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#23 Garbage in, garbage out trampled by Moore's law
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#35 Is American capitalism and greed to blame for our financial troubles in the US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#55 Is this the story behind the crunchy credit stuff?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#63 CROOKS and NANNIES: what would Boyd do?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#1 Are Both The U.S. & UK on the brink of debt disaster?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#78 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#79 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#6 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#18 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#32 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#39 'WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GLOBAL MELTDOWN'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#61 Accounting for the "greed factor"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#65 is it possible that ALL banks will be nationalized?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#65 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#27 Flawed Credit Ratings Reap Profits as Regulators Fail Investors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#46 What's your personal confidence level concerning financial market recovery?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#59 Credit cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#13 UK issues Turning apology (and about time, too)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#47 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#26 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#56 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#84 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#22 In the News: SEC storms the 'Castle'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#7 The Enablers for this "Real Estate Crisis"- Willful Blindness, Greed or more?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#79 Favourite computer history books?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#84 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#6 taking down the machine - z9 series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#29 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#38 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#40 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#8 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#9 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#33 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#38 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#21 Compressing the OODA-Loop - Removing the D (and maybe even an O)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#24 What Is MERS and What Role Does It Have in the Foreclosure Mess?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#6 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#78 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#49 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#94 The Curly Factor -- Prologue
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#27 The Zippo Lighter theory of the financial crisis (or, who do we want to blame?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#42 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#59 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#25 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#41 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#48 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#60 In your opinon, what is the highest risk of financial fraud for a corporation ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#74 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#43 Massive Fraud, Common Crime, No Prosecutions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#66 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 11:20:42 -0400Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> writes:
then in this century ... with the same party in control of congress, things seemed to go completely wild after the fiscal responsibility act expired ... reducing tax collections w/o corresponding reduction in spending along with increases in spending w/o corresponding increase in tax collection.
past posts quoting GAO comptroller general about what seemed to happen
in congress after fiscal responsibility act expired in 2002
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#60 Happy DEC-10 Day
as an aside, tv business news segment just now is having interview with him (in real time).
other past posts mentioning fiscal responsibility act:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#9 Oldest Instruction Set still in daily use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#33 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#34 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#46 not even sort of about The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#79 Idiotic take on Bush tax cuts expiring
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#59 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#66 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#75 origin of 'fields'?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#72 77,000 federal workers paid more than governors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#15 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
misc. past posts mentioning GAO comptroller general:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#41 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#44 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#9 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#14 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#27 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#2 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#3 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#4 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#17 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#19 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#33 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#61 Health Care
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#17 Health Care
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#0 Cray-1 Anniversary Event - September 21st
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#26 Universal constants
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#20 IBM Unionization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#91 IBM Unionization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#19 Another "migration" from the mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#74 Horrid thought about Politics, President Bush, and Democrats
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#22 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#7 what does xp do when system is copying
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#1 Translation of IBM Basic Assembler to C?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#13 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#14 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#15 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#24 Translation of IBM Basic Assembler to C?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#25 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#33 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#35 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#26 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#57 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#40 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#50 fraying infrastructure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#86 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#1 The Workplace War for Age and Talent
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#3 America's Prophet of Fiscal Doom
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#26 The Return of Ada
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#98 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#8 Taxcuts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#9 Taxcuts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#17 Michigan industry
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#20 What is the real basis for business mess we are facing today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#55 Hexadecimal Kid - articles from Computerworld wanted
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#86 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#87 IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#36 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#37 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#60 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#3 Oldest Instruction Set still in daily use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#9 Oldest Instruction Set still in daily use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#23 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#34 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#46 not even sort of about The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#79 Idiotic take on Bush tax cuts expiring
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#66 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#69 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#75 origin of 'fields'?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#72 77,000 federal workers paid more than governors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#14 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#15 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 12:11:02 -0400re:
the president and the party in control of congress both significantly contributed to balanace budget & surplus end of last century.
but it is almost like dr. Jaekel and mr. hyde ... a couple years later, nearly that same congress manages to destroy the budget (and nearly destroy the economy).
it seems like (possibly subset) of congress managed to push thru fiscal responsibility act and got congress to mostly toe the line ... then when the act expires ... they just all go crazy (somebody on tv business news just now used the reference like "looney toons" ... specifically with respect to economic bubble and our leveraged mortgage market with respect to the rest of the world).
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:56:26 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
a little more S&L crisis from "two million dollar meltdown"
(people buying S&Ls for their own personal piggy bank):
Another owner with a $1.8 billion loan book had bought six Learjets
before the Feds noticed that 96 percent of his loans were delinquent.
... snip ...
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:13:13 -0400sidd <sidd@situ.com> writes:
the possible exception recently is Madoff ... although he turned himself in ... he wasn't caught. During the congressional Madoff hearings, the person testified about trying unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff, was extremely publicity shy. He eventually had a spokesman for some TV interviews ... who made some veiled references to concerns regarding powerful/violent/criminal organizations might be behind Madoff's apparent immunity (and they wouldn't take too kindly to the collapse of the ponzi scheme).
A year after, the person was on book tour and asked about his earlier reluctance to appear in public; response was that he had changed his mind ... and the possible reason for Madoff turning himself in was that Madoff may have con'ed some powerful/violent/criminal organizations and needed protection (as opposed to having been backed by such operations).
That then leaves unexplained Madoff apparent immunity from any SEC action (i.e. no longer explanation that SEC was in the pocket of operations that were also backing Madoff).
misc. past posts mentioning Madoff:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#65 What can agencies such as the SEC do to insure us that something like Madoff's Ponzi scheme will never happen again?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#73 What can we learn from the meltdown?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#80 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#0 Audit II: Two more scary words: Sarbanes-Oxley
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#4 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#20 Decision Making or Instinctive Steering?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#29 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#39 'WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GLOBAL MELTDOWN'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#44 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#51 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#0 PNC Financial to pay CEO $3 million stock bonus
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#3 Congress Set to Approve Pay Cap of $500,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#37 NEW SEC (Enforcement) MANUAL, A welcome addition
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#42 Bernard Madoff Is Jailed After Pleading Guilty -- are there more "Madoff's" out there?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#47 Bernard Madoff Is Jailed After Pleading Guilty -- are there more "Madoff's" out there?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#57 Lack of bit field instructions in x86 instruction set because of patents ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#61 Quiz: Evaluate your level of Spreadsheet risk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#62 Is Wall Street World's Largest Ponzi Scheme where Madoff is Just a Poster Child?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#63 Do bonuses foster unethical conduct?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#73 Should Glass-Steagall be reinstated?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#75 Whistleblowing and reporting fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#0 What is swap in the financial market?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#15 The background reasons of Credit Crunch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#35 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#36 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#37 How do you see ethics playing a role in your organizations current or past?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#40 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#53 Are the "brightest minds in finance" finally onto something?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#70 When did "client server" become part of the language?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#2 CEO pay sinks - Wall Street Journal/Hay Group survey results just released
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#29 What is the real basis for business mess we are facing today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#31 What is the real basis for business mess we are facing today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#38 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#43 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#45 Artificial Intelligence to tackle rogue traders
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#47 TARP Disbursements Through April 10th
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#49 Is the current downturn cyclic or systemic?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#51 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#65 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#67 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#1 Future of Financial Mathematics?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#5 Do the current Banking Results in the US hide a grim truth?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#7 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#29 Transparency and Visibility
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#33 Treating the Web As an Archive
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#34 Board Visibility Into The Business
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#76 Undoing 2000 Commodity Futures Modernization Act
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#77 A new global system is coming into existence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#3 Consumer Credit Crunch and Banking Writeoffs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#17 REGULATOR ROLE IN THE LIGHT OF RECENT FINANCIAL SCANDALS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#22 China's yuan 'set to usurp US dollar' as world's reserve currency
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#13 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#23 Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX? (Are settlements a good argument for overnight batch COBOL ?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#40 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#54 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#60 In the USA "financial regulator seeks power to curb excess speculation."
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#12 IBM identity manager goes big on role control
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#21 The Big Takeover
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#30 An Amazing Document On Madoff Said To Have Been Sent To SEC In 2005
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#5 Internal fraud isn't new, but it's news
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#89 Audits V: Why did this happen to us ;-(
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#13 UK issues Turning apology (and about time, too)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#49 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#23 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#71 "Rat Your Boss" or "Rats to Riches," the New SEC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#84 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#20 U.K. lags in information security management practices
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#51 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#57 MasPar compiler and simulator
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#35 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#47 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#53 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#61 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#45 Audits VII: the future of the Audit is in your hands
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#47 Audits VII: the future of the Audit is in your hands
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#37 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#82 Oldest Instruction Set still in daily use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#34 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#87 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#8 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#77 Madoff Whistleblower Book
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#4 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#33 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#46 not even sort of about The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#54 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#56 Handling multicore CPUs; what the competition is thinking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#15 The Revolving Door and S.E.C. Enforcement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#16 The Revolving Door and S.E.C. Enforcement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#31 In the News: SEC storms the 'Castle'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#41 Profiling of fraudsters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#43 COBOL - no longer being taught - is a problem
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#47 COBOL - no longer being taught - is a problem
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#58 S.E.C. Moves to Tighten Rules on Bonds Backed by Consumer Loans
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#67 The Python and the Mongoose: it helps if you know the rules of engagement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#69 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#34 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#41 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#42 "Fraud & Stupidity Look a Lot Alike"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#47 "Fraud & Stupidity Look a Lot Alike"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#48 "Fraud & Stupidity Look a Lot Alike"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#6 taking down the machine - z9 series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#29 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#14 Age
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#38 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#37 A Bright Future for Big Iron?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#62 Dodd-Frank Act Makes CEO-Worker Pay Gap Subject to Disclosure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#35 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#36 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#37 WHAT, WHY AND HOW - FRAUD, IMPACT OF AUDIT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#71 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#76 E-commerce smackdown as PCI standards revised
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#6 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#16 Rare Apple I computer sells for $216,000 in London
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#48 WikiLeaks' Wall Street Bombshell
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#54 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#66 No command, and control
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#69 Moody's hints at move that could be catastrophic for US debt
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#21 Ernst & Young called to account -- should Audit firms be investigated for their role in the crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#40 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#53 Programmer Charged with thieft (maybe off topic)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#46 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#48 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#21 New-home sales in 2010 fall to lowest in 47 years
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#42 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#19 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#23 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#26 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#27 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#28 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#56 In your opinon, what is the highest risk of financial fraud for a corporation ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#35 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#52 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#62 Mixing Auth and Non-Auth Modules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#82 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#88 Court OKs Firing of Boeing Computer-Security Whistleblowers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#5 How they failed to catch Madoff
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#30 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#40 Fight Fraud with Device ID
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#47 Lords: Auditors guilty of 'dereliction of duty'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#52 Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#5 Home prices may drop another 25%, Shiller predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#6 Home prices may drop another 25%, Shiller predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#22 Is BitCoin a triple entry system?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#25 US Housing Crisis Is Now Worse Than Great Depression
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#29 Obama: "We don't have enough engineers"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#41 Delinquent Homeowners to Get Mortgage Aid from Government
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#66 Senate Democrats Ask House to Boost SEC Funding
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#8 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#13 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#18 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#19 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Web version of mainframes Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 7 Jul 2011 17:35:19 -0700jagadishanp@GMAIL.COM (jagadishan perumal) writes:
above mentions jan92, Berners-Lee demonstrates the SLAC connection at a computing workshop in southern France.
sgml morphs into html at cern
http://infomesh.net/html/history/early/
gml invented at science center in 1969 ... and gml tag processing added to cms script document processing. decade later gml morphs into sgml .. and then after another decade morphs into html.
from earlier thread (here) on inventor of email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#49
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 08 Jul, 2011 Subject: PDCA vs. OODA Blog: Boyd Disciplesre:
I take it somewhat as threat analysis ... what are all the things that can happen and corresponding countermeasures vis-a-vis vulnerabiilty analsys ... which can be what are you dependencies.
I've periodic done business critical dataprocessing and have frequently observed that to take a well written application and turn it into a service can take 4-10 times the original effort.
we had been brought in to consult by a small client/server company that wanted to do payment transactions on their server; the startup had also invented this technology they called "SSL" that they wanted to use (the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce"). Part of the implementation was something called the "payment gateway" (interface between servers on the internet and payment networks). They were doing a well written & tested server application to interface to the gateway. Rather than look at all possible ways it might be attacked (and necessary countermeasures) ... I drew up list of approx. 40 critical components that could either fail &/or be attacked. In a matrix of the critical components and half-dozen states ... I required a demonstration (that in each possible case), it was possible to perform a recovery action (regardless of problem cause) and/or at least demonstrate 1st level problem determination within five minutes elapsed time. To go from their "application" implementation to "server" implementation resulted in possibly only doubling amount of code, but closer to five times the original effort. "Recovery" was all the way through OODA-loop to act. "First level problem determination" (within five minutes) was at least sufficient instrumentation & analysis to get at least through "OO" part (even if it couldn't get all the way through the loop). Instrumentation can frequently be sufficient to make the difference between "chaotic" and "complicated".
I didn't care whether failure/fault was purposeful attack, hardware/software glitch or other event.
It turns out that I didn't have the same level of authority over the client-side implementation; I could give presentations and recommendations. In the client-side implementation, instead of having some stuff out-of-the-box ... it took a year elapsed time to get a few things added/changed. I claimed it was bunch of young kids, fresh out of school ... and if they hadn't seen it in some class or text-book ... they would claim "too complicated" (even when I demonstrated example implementations in production use for nearly a decade).
It is somewhat different from studying "how things fail" ... but more like, "if something fails, what are the consequences" (and enumerating them).
misc. past posts mentioning 4-10 times effort scenario
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#75 Test and Set (TS) vs Compare and Swap (CS)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#91 Buffer overflow
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#93 Buffer overflow
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002n.html#11 Wanted: the SOUNDS of classic computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003g.html#62 IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#15 A Dark Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003p.html#37 The BASIC Variations
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#8 Mars Rover Not Responding
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#48 Automating secure transactions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004k.html#20 Vintage computers are better than modern crap !
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#49 "Perfect" or "Provable" security both crypto and non-crypto?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#23 Systems software versus applications software definitions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#63 Systems software versus applications software definitions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#64 Systems software versus applications software definitions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005b.html#40 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005i.html#42 Development as Configuration
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#26 Data communications over telegraph circuits
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#20 The System/360 Model 20 Wasn't As Bad As All That
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#37 Is computer history taught now?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#51 IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#78 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#10 The top 10 dead (or dying) computer skills
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#76 PSI MIPS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#77 PSI MIPS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#23 Outsourcing loosing steam?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#54 Industry Standard Time To Analyze A Line Of Code
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#53 folklore indeed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#41 IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#50 fraying infrastructure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#53 Why Is Less Than 99.9% Uptime Acceptable?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#33 Mainframe Project management
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#20 Michigan industry
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#35 Builders V. Breakers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#48 How much knowledge should a software architect have regarding software security?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#0 Is SUN going to become x86'ed ??
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#16 Far and near pointers on the 80286 and later
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#60 Far and near pointers on the 80286 and later
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 09:57:56 -0400jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
another part of "balancing" (for some value of *balance* at some point in future) was mandating conversion to digital TV ... this was height of internet bubble and auctioning off (wireless) spectrum. digital tv used much less bandwidth than analog tv; cooking the books assumed that the freed up bandwidth would then be auctioned off at extremely high valuation ... which plugged the remaining gap for achieving *balance* (this was another congressional special).
but as previously mentioned, that congress seemed to be very much dr. Jaekel and mr. hyde ... mostly the same congress a couple years later (early part of this century) went wild after fiscal responsibility act expired in 2002.
past post mentioning congressional assumptions closing final gap in
being able to proclaim balanced by mandating transition to digital TV
... and the auction of the freed up spectrum would bring in significant
revenue:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#61 Primaries (USA)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#8 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#49 OT Kodachrome film discontinued
budget enforcement act of 1990 (extended several times but expired in
2002)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_Enforcement_Act_of_1990
GAO comptroller general was on program that both big reductions in taxes
and passing of medicare part-d happened after act expired in 2002.
http://www.gao.gov/special.pubs/longterm/tourqa.html
where medicare part-d comes to be a $40T unfunded liability (totally swamping all other budget items) ... although above item with shorter term time-span pegs it at $8T.
this has medicare's total unfunded liabilty at $74 trillion
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120373015283387491.html
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 09:28:40 -0400jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
I haven't seen any reference that latest round will drive up health care costs anywhere near the one liner in medicare part-D.
18 members/staffers in congress from party in power (shortly after fiscal responsibility act expires in 2002) at last minute add one-line that precludes competitive bidding ... and prevents distribution of CBO report (on the effect of the change) before the vote. CBS 60min segment then finds that shortly after passage, all 18 have resigned and on drug company payroll. The news segment also compares prices of identical drugs under medicare part-d (w/o competitive bidding) and veterans affiars (w/competitive bidding) and find VA gets identical drugs at 1/3rd the price.
2007 CBO office of (all) health care (see figure 4):
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/87xx/doc8758/MainText.3.1.shtml
GAO comptroller general repeatedly described Medicare Part-D unfunded mandate ($40T) comes to swamp every other budget item.
Selected CBO Publications Related to Health Care Legislation, 2009-2010
http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=12033&zzz=41488
table 1, pg. 7 ... 2010-2019 aggregate increase deficit by $788B for insurance coverage provisions; 2010-2019 aggregate decrease deficit by $511B in changes on outlays; 2010-2019 aggregate decrease deficit by changes in revenues $420B ... as well as several other deficit decrease items.
The above has the legislation better than deficit neutral (aka reduces deficit).
This is in stark contrast to what happened in the period after the fiscal responsibility act expired in 2002.
other recent posts in this thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#12 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#15 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#18 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#19 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#20 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#21 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#22 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#23 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#24 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#25 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 10:25:57 -0400Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> writes:
What Did the Rumsfeld/Gates Pentagon Do with $1 Trillion?
http://www.cdi.org/program/document.cfm?documentid=4623
note cdi.org has moved to
http://www.pogo.org/straus/
... missing $1T is now
http://www.pogo.org/straus/issues/defense-budget/2010/what-did-the-rumsfeld-gates-pentagon-do-with-1-trillion.html
from above:
According to the analysis of the Project on Defense Alternatives,
between 1998 and 2010 Congress appropriated to the Pentagon $2.144
Trillion (with a "T") more than was anticipated by the 1999 "baseline."
Of that amount, $1.113 Trillion was spent on the wars in Iraq and
Afghanistan, and $1.031 Trillion was added to "base" (non-war) Pentagon
spending. (See p. 3 of PDA's study, "An Undisciplined Defense:
Understanding the $2 Trillion Surge in US Defense Spending" at
http://www.comw.org/pda/fulltext/1001PDABR20.pdf
I basically concur with PDA's numbers, which are from DOD and OMB budget
data as described on p. 61.)
What did you get for that extra $1 Trillion? Basically, you got a
smaller Navy and Air Force and a tiny increase in the size of the Army.
As an extra bonus, the hardware those forces use are now older than they
were in the Clinton administration in 1998.
... snip ...
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 11:20:05 -0400Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> writes:
at least in medicaid ... federal has had big push to correct fraud and inflated billing in the state accounting practices (estimated as much as 30%) ... including both stick & carrot (with carrot being increase federal share of medicaid from 50% to 60% ... if a state would align their practices with federal guidelines). I've looked at state legislations defeating bills to align state practices with federal guidelines ... apparently because of heavy lobbying by various providers.
there were news items of state attorney general in state medicaid fraud offices resigning in protest over the issue.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 11:33:00 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
item from just now:
Chuck Spinney: Perpetual War is a Protection Racket
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2011/07/chuck-spinney-perpetual-war-is-a-protection-racket/
in reference to this item:
House boosts military budget in time of austerity
http://old.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110708/ap_on_go_co/us_defense_spending
also by Chuck: Why the War Machine Keeps on Running
http://www.counterpunch.org/spinney07052011.html
if one was into conspiracy theories, foreign agents have taken over the country and siphoned off several trillion in the bubble and possibly another trillion laundered through the pentagon budget.
as an aside, Chuck was Boyd side-kick ... misc. past posts
mentioning Boyd
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 10:52:32 -0400jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
it possibly happens in every piece of legislation ... one of the reasons that there have been long-time references to congress is the most corrupt institution on earth.
however, at some point, something in the abstract becomes more serious. GAO comptroller general claimed that medicare part-D becomes a $40T unfunded mandate totally swamping all other items ... then that one line represents 2/3rds of that $40T ($27T).
the other part from the GAO comptroller general was that such budget activities became especially egregious in the period after the fiscal responsibility act expired in 2002. This became the turning/inflection point from balanced budget & surpluses in the late 90s to the enormous deficits that continue up to current period.
this pretty much shows that the (health care) problem becomes dire (with few, if anybody actually denying there is a problem)
2007 CBO office of (all) health care (see figure 4):
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/87xx/doc8758/MainText.3.1.shtml
similar past post from 2006
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#61 Health Care
More recent CBO show that there was at least serious attempt to actually show budget surplus
Selected CBO Publications Related to Health Care Legislation, 2009-2010
http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=12033&zzz=41488
with amounts in the hundreds of billions (covering 10yr period)
while the period after the fiscal responsibility act expiring in 2002 made no effort to demonstrate deficit neutral (congress having gone from Dr. Jaekel "budget surplus" to Mr. Hyde "extreme deficit" in a few short years).
the quantity/quality problem also has analogy in the bubble. There has always been hot beds of fraud and corruption in various parts of the financial industry ... tending to millions or few billions. However, the period of significant deregulation (& lack of enforcement of remaining regulation) allowed the hot beds of fraud and corruption to combine together into financial firestorm that had potential of taking down economy and country ... with fraud and corruption reaching trillions.
misc. past posts referring to hot beds of fraud & corruption being
allowed to combine creating financial firestorm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#78 Who murdered the financial system?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#80 Can we blame one person for the financial meltdown?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#82 Greenspan testimony and securization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#60 Did sub-prime cause the financial mess we are in?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#20 How is Subprime crisis impacting other Industries?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#57 Garbage in, garbage out trampled by Moore's law
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#62 Garbage in, garbage out trampled by Moore's law
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#71 CROOKS and NANNIES: what would Boyd do?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#1 Are Both The U.S. & UK on the brink of debt disaster?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#53 Credit & Risk Management ... go Simple ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#79 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#80 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#32 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#39 'WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GLOBAL MELTDOWN'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#51 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#61 Accounting for the "greed factor"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#65 is it possible that ALL banks will be nationalized?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#43 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#46 What's your personal confidence level concerning financial market recovery?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#47 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#56 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#58 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#17 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#53 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#27 The Zippo Lighter theory of the financial crisis (or, who do we want to blame?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#45 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#5 Home prices may drop another 25%, Shiller predicts
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 10 Jul, 2011 Subject: PDCA vs. OODA Blog: Boyd Disciplesre:
to somewhat go with my earlier, upthread MBA rant:
Driven off the Road by M.B.A.s
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2081930,00.html
Note that this was starting to become pervasive at the same time Boyd would mention (in briefings) about big problem in American companies were the young WW2 officers coming into their own as corporate executives and wanting to emulate their early WW2 training with large infrastructure with rigid, top-down command and control structures
Book Review: 'Car Guys vs. Bean Counters' by Bob Lutz; The General
Motors veteran wants to screw the bean counters who screwed the
U.S. auto industry
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/book-review-car-guys-vs-bean-counters-by-bob-lutz-07072011.html
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 10 Jul, 2011 Subject: Having left IBM, seem to be reminded that IBM is not the same IBM I had joined Blog: Greater IBMSomebody's discussion in the (linkedin) IBM co/ex workers group:
The IBM would have, could have and should have story - Also known as what the h?#* did you do to us John Akers (;>)
that cited
IBM at 100: A prosperous failure
http://www.zdnet.com/news/it-at-work/2011/06/17/ibm-at-100-a-prosperous-failure-40093143/
and followup/response
remember in the mid-80s, executives where pitching that the company would double (from $60B to $120B) mostly on mainframe sales. As part of that there was huge manufacturing building program (to double mainframe manufacturing). Possibly as part of doubling prediction, there also appeared to be huge uptick in "fast-track" ... turning out large number of 90-day wonder executives. This is when mainframe was on down tick and company was heading into the red a few yrs later (it wasn't necessarily career enhancing to pointing out that the company wouldn't be doubling).
this discusses some of the events ... including parts of role that failure of Future System played:
https://www.ecole.org/en/session/49-the-rise-and-fall-of-ibm
https://www.ecole.org/en/session/49-the-rise-and-fall-of-ibm
From Ferguson and Morris book on IBM there were references that IBM lived under dark shadow of the failure for decades, also reference to the old culture under Watsons was replaced with sycophancy and make no waves under Opel and Akers.
This has more detail on Future System
https://people.computing.clemson.edu/~mark/fs.html
and this reference from Ferguson & Morris:
Most corrosive of all, the old IBM candor died with F/S. Top
management, particularly Opel, reacted defensively as F/S headed
toward a debacle. The IBM culture that Watson had built was a harsh
one, but it encouraged dissent and open controversy. But because of
the heavy investment of face by the top management, F/S took years to
kill, although its wrongheadedness was obvious from the very
outset. "For the first time, during F/S, outspoken criticism became
politically dangerous," recalls a former top executive.
... snip ...
Misc more detail on FS:
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm
Also in the late 80s, a senior disk engineer got a talk scheduled at annual, worldwide internal communication group conference. He opened the talk with statement that communication group would be responsible for the demise of the disk division. The issue was the stranglehold that the communication group (products) had on datacenters. The disk division was seeing leading wave of data fleeing the datacenters (& mainframes to more distributed computing friendly platforms) and came up with some number of products to address the situation. However, communication group was protecting their turf and owned strategic responsibility for everything that crossed datacenter walls.
there is folklore about how 1993 accounting slight-of-hand resulted in the largest executive bonuses paid in the history of the corporation (just before the change of guard).
Services tend to be people intensive .... doubling services tend to require doubling people ... not a lot of leverage. In competitive market, there is tendency to compete on price and commoditize the product; in services people effectively become the product and what gets commoditized.
However, going on in parallel in the period after the failure of FS and the dark shadow that cast over the company for decades (and the significant culture change) ... there is this item:
Why a Rise in M.B.A.s Coincided with the Fall of American Industry
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2081930,00.html
a similar theme was periodically expressed in the 80s (and call for end of the MBAs although had not quite reached the same disrepute as lawyers).
some more
http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/07/10/132240/Have-American-Businesses-Been-Stranded-By-the-MBAs
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/book-review-car-guys-vs-bean-counters-by-bob-lutz-07072011.html
The MBA problem appears to be with people that view themselves purely as MBA (business schools stamping out newly minted MBAs). In the 80s, the VC holy grail in silicon valley for startups was engineer graduate that had worked for some number of years and then went back (possibly at night school) and got MBA. It was critical to have engineering view but was also beneficial to have additional viewpoints (like a MBA ... or in the OS2 case, input from customer).
I had sponsored Boyd's briefings at IBM in the 80s ... and one of the
major points was constantly viewing all facets of a issue. misc.
Boyd-related posts & references
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html
Note in the 1990 timeframe, the US auto industry had C4 taskforce, large part was to leverage technology to deal with foreign competition. Some number of technology companies were participating. Industry could clearly outline competitive advantages and necessary changes to compete ... but obviously things were so ingrained that at the time, they weren't actually possible to change.
One of the details was foreign competition cut in half the cycle time for completely new model from 7-8 yrs and were in the process of cutting it in half again. As a result foreign competition was in much better position to take advantage of new technology and/or change in market preferences. Also on 7-8yr cycle, there were several cases where parts specified in original design were no longer available and there was non-productive design scrap and rework.
Offline from the meetings, I would chide mainframe brethren (who were on similar cycle), how could they expect to contribute (other than trying to push their mainframe as part of any technology solution)?
past posts referrencing c4 taskforce:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#3 IBM interprets Lean development's Kaizen with new MCIF product
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#31 Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#14 360 programs on a z/10
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#47 z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#55 Handling multicore CPUs; what the competition is thinking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#70 Handling multicore CPUs; what the competition is thinking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#8 Far and near pointers on the 80286 and later
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#75 Favourite computer history books?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#0 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#22 60 Minutes News Report:Unemployed for over 99 weeks!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#59 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#90 PDCA vs. OODA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#2 Car models and corporate culture: It's all lies
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 10 Jul, 2011 Subject: Having left IBM, seem to be reminded that IBM is not the same IBM I had joined Blog: Greater IBMre:
One of the things that the big consulting houses have demonstrated for decades was reducing various things to best practices & formulas (way of leveraging small experience & skill base) ... and then hiring hordes of new college graduates each year and training them in the formulas. Whole projects would be staffed by this formula trainees ... things would run ok as long as project conformed to the formula ... but could go drastically wrong if things strayed from the formula.
At least in the case of "beltway bandits" ... there was further issue
of developing a Success of Failure culture ... that there was more
long term revenue with grand federal projects having repeated
failures. old reference:
http://www.govexec.com/management/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/
note that my posts early in the discussion about FS failure noted that declaring failure would result in loss-of-face by executives ... especially Opel ... but also Akers ... which kept it going long after it should have otherwise been terminated (aka not just organizational financial "loss aversion" ... but enormous executive image loss). I've noted in the past that it probably wasn't career enhancing to have ridiculed FS activities while it was going on (drawing analogies between FS and a long-running cult film that had been playing continuously down in central sq for several years).
in the beltway bandit scenario ... they would actually proclaim something a failure ... and then beltway bandits take turns doing the next, new&improved version, with the cycle repeating itself several times (several failures, each followed by the next new effort). In some cases, billions of dollars down the rathole on each iteration.
another scenario ... early in 3yr, tens-of-millions/yr contract ... showing that the approach wouldn't work and being told that they might consider a correct approach on the next contract ... but there was significant money left on the table in the current contract (there was little downside performing exactly as specified even tho everybody knew it would fail ... and then have opportunity to try again in the follow-on contract).
misc. past posts mentioning Success of Failure culture:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#25 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#41 U.S. house decommissions its last mainframe, saves $730,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#19 STEM crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#26 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#38 F.B.I. Faces New Setback in Computer Overhaul
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#18 taking down the machine - z9 series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#78 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#5 Off-topic? When governments ask computers for an answer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#69 No command, and control
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#0 America's Defense Meltdown
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#45 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#32 Congratulations, where was my invite?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#34 Congratulations, where was my invite?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#72 77,000 federal workers paid more than governors
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:51:30 -0400Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
there has been various observations that (any) congress is the least likely to do something about malpractice cases since they are predominately lawyers and heavily influenced by trial lawyer lobbying.
there are (at least) two sides to unnecessary tests & prescriptions ... the defensive medicine scenario ... but both medicaid & medicare have worked hard to minimize unnecessary tests & prescriptions that appear to be much more associated with over-billing (significant larger financial motivation) than true defensive medicine (other than anecdotal references and misdirection).
medicare & medicaid have gathered large amount of national data and worked hard to establish best practices and put operations under close scrutiny that deviate significantly. at the moment auditing is extremely expensive and time-consuming and as a result, penalties are especially onerous (acting as deterrent). new guidelines include processes that attempt to proactive preclude worst of the processes (being cheaper than catching and prosecuting after the fact).
however there is enormous lobbying to not cut revenue for various interested parties (as epitomized by the one-line, non-compete clause which is around a $27T present to the drug companies, aka 2/3rds of the $40T medicare part-d unfunded mandate)
old post with respect to medicare DRGs:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#50 August 7, 1944: today is the 65th Anniversary of the Birth of the Computer
above mentions "coders" new health-care profession ... being able to specify code that results in maximum possible re-imbursement but keeping away from failing an audit and enormous penalties. above also references study that hospitals with the best IT have 30% better patient care.
DRG wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagnosis-related_group
from above:
The most significant change in health policy since Medicare and
Medicaid's passage in 1965 went virtually unnoticed by the general
public. Nevertheless, the change was nothing short of revolutionary. For
the first time, the federal government gained the upper hand in its
financial relationship with the hospital industry. Medicare's new
prospective payment system with DRGs triggered a shift in the balance of
political and economic power between the providers of medical care
(hospitals and physicians) and those who paid for it - power that
providers had successfully accumulated for more than half a century.
... snip ...
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:24:28 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
shows significant drop in receipts roughly corresponding to the period after fiscal responsibility act expires (from 20+% of GDP down to 15% of GDP)
Shame on them; The Republicans are playing a cynical political game with
hugely high economic stakes
http://www.economist.com/node/18928600
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 10 Jul, 2011 Subject: Wondering if I am really eligible for this group. I learned my first programming language in 1975 Blog: Old Geek Registryre:
note that 5th flr, 545 tech sq did multics in pli
https://www.multicians.org
cambridge science center on 4th flr of 545 tech sq did (virtual
machine) cp67/cms.Science center also took interpreter from apl360 and
did cms\apl. It opened up workspace size to virtual address space
instead the 16kbyte to 32kbyte typical of workspaces in apl\360. Also
interfaces to cms system services was added to cms\apl; a combination
of significantly larger workspace sizes and system services API
enabled real-world applications. APL storage management had also to be
extensively reworked for large virtual memory, demand page
environment. For instance, business planners in armonk hdqtrs loaded
the most valuable of corporate resources on cambridge cp67 system
(detailed customer information) for all sorts of business modeling and
forecasting (done remotely from armonk via 2741 dialup
service). Cambridge took a lot of heat about the system services api
in cms\apl ... until eventual "shared variable" paradigm was created
and used for interfacing to system services. some old pictures
... including 2741 "APL" type ball
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#oldpicts
later the palo alto science center morphed cms\apl into apl\cms for vm370/cms (as well as the 370/145 apl microcode assist).
I sponsored Boyd's briefings at IBM in the 80s ... some past posts and
references
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html
Boyd's biographies has him doing tour in command.of.spook base back in
1970 ... biography has reference that spook base was $2.5B windfall
for IBM. spook reference that has gone 404 ... but lives on at the
wayback machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20030212092342/http://home.att.net/~c.jeppeson/igloo_white.html
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 00:01:50 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
more detailed graphs of tax both historic as well as compared with OECD countries
Ten Charts that Prove the United States Is a Low-Tax Country
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/tax-reform/news/2011/06/10/9751/ten-charts-that-prove-the-united-states-is-a-low-tax-country/
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#38 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
references:
Shame on them; The Republicans are playing a cynical political game with
hugely high economic stakes
http://www.economist.com/node/18928600
shows additional big drop in tax collections after fiscal responsibility act expired in 2002 ... going from (Dr. Jakyll) Congress with balanced budget and surplus (from end of century) to (Mr. Hyde) Congress with big budget deficit a couple years later.
The period was also significant reduction in regulation and/or failure to enforce regulations that allowed isolated hot-spots of fraud and corruption to combine into economic firestorm ... nearly taking down economy and country.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:49:19 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
Not Worth Mentioning Department
http://baselinescenario.com/2011/07/11/not-worth-mentioning-department/
mentions reading "Path to Prosperity" ... also known as Ryan Plan
http://budget.house.gov/fy2012budget/
and found (in above):
"An inevitable consequence of the last Congress's decision to ramp up
spending so quickly was that billions of Americans' hard-earned tax
dollars were squandered. The Government Accountability Office (GAO) --
the non-partisan agency that audits the government's books -- recently
found between $100 billion to $200 billion in duplication, overlap, and
waste in federal spending."
... snip ...
Which referred to:
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d11318sp.pdf
and mentions that the report was required by statute passed in 2010 to look at issue of eliminating duplication in federal agencies (a decades old problem) ... and almost nothing to do with stimulus.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:12:07 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
The Billion-Dollar Bank Heist; How the financial industry is buying off
Washington -- and killing reform.
http://www.newsweek.com/billion-dollar-bank-heist-68427
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 12 Jul, 2011 Subject: At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened Blog: Mainframe Expertsre:
with regard to "looking more&more like":
Meet IBM's new $75,000 mainframe; New zEnterprise 114 is primarily
competing against a Linux server running on an x86 platform, analyst
says
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9218326/Meet_IBM_s_new_75_000_mainframe
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:11:14 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
the comptroller general resigned in 2008 ... some comment about allowed
to be more vocal/critical about budget (than he already was)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_M._Walker_%28U.S._Comptroller_General%29
past several days he has been on seveal business news shows interviewed
about the budget. just now he was being pressed about whether he would
run for congress as independent from Connecticut. He said that he had
been registered republican nearly his whole life until past couple years
when he switched to independent ... and there has been lots of pressure
for him to run. other recent posts mentioning comptroller general
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#72 77,000 federal workers paid more than governors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#14 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#15 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#22 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#28 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#29 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
while he was comptroller general ... in several speeches, he would make
reference to nobody in congress for the past 50 years has been capable
of middle-school arithmetic (based on most of their ability to do
anything regarding balanced budget). misc. past posts mentioning
comptroller general's comment about middle-school arithmetic:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#20 IBM Unionization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#91 IBM Unionization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#19 Another "migration" from the mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#74 Horrid thought about Politics, President Bush, and Democrats
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#22 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#13 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#26 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#40 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#50 fraying infrastructure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#86 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#98 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#8 Taxcuts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#17 Michigan industry
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#20 What is the real basis for business mess we are facing today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#55 Hexadecimal Kid - articles from Computerworld wanted
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#39 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#60 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#33 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#79 Idiotic take on Bush tax cuts expiring
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#59 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#66 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#69 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#75 origin of 'fields'?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:48:19 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
from the article:
The industry paid lobbyists $1.3 billion in 2009 and through the first
three months of 2010, according to the Center for Public Integrity,
which added up the spending by the 850 businesses and trade groups
fighting financial reform. Many of these same businesses are now
spending as much money, if not more, to lobby for curbs on the new
law.
... snip ...
with respect to getting call in 2009 that the work on Pecora hearings
wasn't needed after all:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#18 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
with regard to other heavy lobbying ....
... middle of last decade, I was co-author of financial industry privacy
standard (x9.99). As part of the effort, there were interviews with
people involved in HIPAA (overlap between privacy provisions and health
information could leak in things like credit card statements, like line
item for specific tests). One of the comments was that the legislation
had been originally drafted in the '70s, but heavy lobbying kept it from
being passed for decades ... and even once it was passed, things like
providing security for health information was delayed for years ... and
then any enforcement/penalties regarding security measures was delayed
even further.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Insurance_Portability_and_Accountability_Act
like:
Subtitle D of the Health Information Technology for Economic and
Clinical Health Act (HITECH Act), enacted as part of the American
Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, addresses the privacy and
security concerns associated with the electronic transmission of
health information.
... snip ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Recovery_and_Reinvestment_Act_of_2009
End of last century, we were tangentially involved in the cal. data breach notification act. we had been brought in to help wordsmith the cal. electronic signature act and lots of the participants were heavily involved in privacy issues. they had done detailed privacy surveys and found the #1 issue was "identity theft" ... in large part the form "account fraud" ... frequently as the result of some data breach. There seemed to be little or nothing done about data breaches (in large part because the fraud is against customers and not those having the breach) and appeared to be some hope that the notifications would provide some motivation to do something.
Since, then there has been several federal (pre-emption) "notification" bills introduced ... those simialr to the cal. legislation and approx. equal number that would eliminate notification.
The same entities were also in the process of doing an "opt-in"
privacy sharing legislation (i.e. institutions can only share personal
information when specifically authorized). Then there was federal
pre-emption privacy sharing "opt-out" provisions added to GLBA (also
known for repeal of Glass-Steagall, playing significant role in the
ecomonic mess, contributing to elimination of barriers between the
individual hot-beds of fraud and corruption ... leading to economic
firestorm).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm%E2%80%93Leach%E2%80%93Bliley_Act
Note: "opt-out" allows institutions to share personal information unless you specifically object. Now, while working on x9.99, I attended an annual privacy conference in Wash. DC. There was a panel discussion with the FTC commissioners. During the discussion, somebody in the audience got up and asked if they were ever going to do anything about "opt-out". He said he was involved with the major financial industry call-centers, and claimed that the "opt-out" call-in lines had no way of recording information from the call (no record of any "opt-out"). Just another example that during the economic mess, not only was there a lot of de-regulation that help fuel the mess ... but there was also significant amount of just failing to enforce what regulations remained.
recent posts mentioning "opt-out", GLBA, and/or repeal of
Glass-Steagall:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#49 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#50 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#53 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#84 The Imaginot Line
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#27 The Zippo Lighter theory of the financial crisis (or, who do we want to blame?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#42 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#45 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#59 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#46 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#19 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#23 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#26 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#27 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#28 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#9 I actually miss working at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#36 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#38 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#41 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#48 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#52 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#55 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#66 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#30 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#47 Lords: Auditors guilty of 'dereliction of duty'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#6 Home prices may drop another 25%, Shiller predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#7 Home prices may drop another 25%, Shiller predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#9 Breaches and Consumer Backlash
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#10 Home prices may drop another 25%, Shiller predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#24 US Housing Crisis Is Now Worse Than Great Depression
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#25 US Housing Crisis Is Now Worse Than Great Depression
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#29 Obama: "We don't have enough engineers"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#55 CISO's Guide to Breach Notification
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#66 Senate Democrats Ask House to Boost SEC Funding
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#8 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#18 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#19 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#25 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 12 Jul, 2011 Subject: Leaving the world of standard operating procedures Blog: Boyd's Disciplesre:
just finished Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed
https://www.amazon.com/Collapse-Societies-Succeed-Revised-ebook/dp/B004H0M8EA
at the end there was discussion of theory that complex centralized
planning wouldn't allow their societies to collapse ...
Complex societies are characterized by centralized decision-making,
high information flow, great coordination of parts, formal channels of
command, and pooling of resources. Much of this structure seems to
have the capability, if not the designed purpose, of countering
fluctuations and deficiencies in productivity.
... snip ...
and why they might. The more successful they were in the past, the
more resistant they could be to change:
In reasoning by false analogy after World War I, French generals made
a common mistake: generals often plan for a coming war as if it will
be like the previous war, especially if that previous war was one in
which their side was victorious.
... snip ...
Another line was that leaders with investment in the status quo are
least likely to change & adapt because they have the most to loose:
Throughout recorded history, actions or inactions by self-absorbed
kings, chiefs, and politicians have been a regular cause of societal
collapses, including those of the Maya kings, Greenland Norse chiefs,
and modern Rwandan politicians discussed in this book.
... snip ...
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Robert Morris, man who helped develop Unix, dies at 78 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:43:22 -0400bbreynolds <bbreynolds@aol.com> writes:
370/148 (&138, aka virgil/tully) had lot more memory and faster than original 370/145 ... as well as quite a bit of m'code space ... so the machines had certain pieces of VS1 dropped into microcode at 10:1 performance increase and certain pieces of vm/370 also dropped into microcode.
the endicott product manager for 148 con'ed me into helping with the
vm/370 part ... past post mentioning process for selecting parts of
vm/370 kernel to be dropped into microcode (at 10:1 performance
improvement).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#21 370 ECPS VM microcode assist
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#27 370 ECPS VM microcode assist
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#28 370 ECPS VM microcode assist
then the product manager con'ed me into running around the world helping him do presentations to various country marketing executives (business planners and forecasters).
About the same time, some guys in POK con'ed me into doing a 5-way SMP project based on 370/125-II ... I designed a lot of new microcode and kernel operation for them.
Then the two groups (Endicott 148 and POK 125-II 5-way SMP) started
viewing each other as competitors and I was expected to attend
escalation meetings and be responsible for arguing both sides.
misc. past posts mentioning 5way SMP activity:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#bounce
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 09:51:58 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
a couple more items
Banks Should Love the Fed's Durbin Amendment Ruling
http://blogs.forbes.com/moneybuilder/2011/07/12/banks-should-love-the-feds-durbin-amendment-ruling/
A Year Later, Dodd-Frank Forces Banks to Shrink
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-11/dodd-frank-act-forcing-banks-to-slim-down-reshape-swaps-one-year-later.html
this implies that while the bubble tanked the economy and country, all that lost wealth did find a landing place
The Rich Are Now Richer Than Before The 2008 Credit Meltdown
http://blogs.forbes.com/stevenbertoni/2011/07/12/the-rich-are-now-richer-than-before-the-2008-credit-meltdown/
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Happy 100th Birthday, IBM! Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:32:10 -0400re:
there are periodic references that all the drama and conflict between the political parties is obfuscation and misdirection for the public; kind of roman circus (pure facade). it also drives/motivates huge lobbying lining congressional pockets (sort of like auction frenzy driving higher and higher bids for congressional votes)
old post with Kapuki Theater reference:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#74 Why is everyone talking about AIG bonuses of millions and keeping their mouth shut on billions sent to foreign banks?
other post with roman circus reference:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#55 TCM's Moguls documentary series
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 13 Jul, 2011 Subject: Having left IBM, seem to be reminded that IBM is not the same IBM I had joined Blog: Greater IBMre:
little x-over from (linkedin) a "Boyd's Disciples" discussion (I had
sponsored Boyd's briefings at IBM):
http://lnkd.in/DPAxaA
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#46 Leaving the world of standard operating procedures
just finished Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed
https://www.amazon.com/Collapse-Societies-Succeed-Revised-ebook/dp/B004H0M8EA
Another line was that leaders with investment in the status quo are
least likely to change & adapt because they have the most to loose:
Throughout recorded history, actions or inactions by self-absorbed
kings, chiefs, and politicians have been a regular cause of societal
collapses, including those of the Maya kings, Greenland Norse chiefs,
and modern Rwandan politicians discussed in this book.
... snip ...
aka ... in IBM's case, top corporate management.
In the 90/91 time-frame we would periodically drop by Somers and have various discussions with people there about necessity for change. They could all discuss the issues intelligently ... but we would return later and see no change ... it was almost as if they were holding off the drastic changes (for as long as possible, preserving the status quo .... possibly until after they had retired ... and then it would be somebody else's problem)
misc. past post mentioning Somers:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#5 IBM Somers NY facility?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001i.html#28 Proper ISA lifespan?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001j.html#37 Proper ISA lifespan?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#40 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#66 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#44 another one biting the dust?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#34 IBM Poughkeepsie?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#67 I would like to understand the professional job market in US. Is it shrinking?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#55 Handling multicore CPUs; what the competition is thinking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#29 someone smarter than Dave Cutler
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#2 Significant Bits
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#79 I actually miss working at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#38 IBM "Watson" computer and Jeopardy
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 14 Jul, 2011 Subject: The OODA-loop "exit" Blog: Boyd's Disciplesre:
one scenario is OODA-loop was to illustrate continuous adjustment ... as opposed to just doing something and stopping; in that sense, OODA-loop can stop when the associated activities also stop.
enter/leave tends to be associated with spatial (enter/exit house), while start/stop tends to be associated with temporal constructs. some things have poor spatial analogy, like enter/exit "RED" or enter/exit "flying"
individuals can be more comfortable with spatial metaphors, for instance if there is a sequence of activity that occurs in time, sometimes there is a spatial "path" metaphor where entering/exiting the path is used (at what point in the sequence do things start, aka sun entering/exiting active phase).
I've asserted that there is flatlander aspect to OODA-loop
... rather than purely iterative sequence of activity ... with
perimeter of circle being used for spatial path analogy ... where
enter/leave metaphor can be applied ... all parts are occurring
continuously and concurrently, for instance orientation not just
depending on the previous observation but all previous observations,
orientations, decisions, and actions. OODA-loop then looses
common spatial analogy ... also part of Zen thread
http://lnkd.in/ngnYM2
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#39 Zen and Connaturality
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#42 Zen and Connaturality
and recent post in "Leaving the world of standard operating
procedures" discussion
http://lnkd.in/DPAxaA
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#46 Leaving the world of standard operating procedures
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#53 Leaving the world of standard operating procedures
with respect to societies collapse ... there is issue of dealing with new environment assuming it is similar to past situation ("false analogy" for French & WW2). In adaptive feedback control algorithms, it comes up with regard to how much past history and how to "weight" past history ... and/or discontinuities that reset past history. This has comes up in hedging ... assuming that there aren't discontinuities and future is approx. linearly related to recent past. Then the discontinuities result in massive failures, there was concern that late 90s hedge industry failure could be a systemic risk with cascading failure of the financial industry and there was extraordinary weekend session to patch things together.
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 14 Jul, 2011 Subject: At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened Blog: Mainframe Expertsre:
with respect to upthread comments about overnight batch window and failed attempts at (real-time) straight-through processing (in the 90s):
U.S. banks changing out core systems for real-time processing; They're
spending more than $100M to replace aging systems
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9218398/U.S._banks_changing_out_core_systems_for_real_time_processing
U.S. banks changing out core systems for real-time processing; They're
spending more than $100M to replace aging systems
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/071411-us-banks-changing-out-core.html
past posts mentioning overnight batch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004.html#51 Mainframe not a good architecture for interactive workloads
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#40 Ranking of non-IBM mainframe builders?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#31 Quote from comp.object
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#15 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#36 Future of System/360 architecture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#19 Distributed Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#21 Distributed Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#37 folklore indeed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#44 Distributed Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#61 folklore indeed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#19 Education ranking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#27 folklore indeed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#64 folklore indeed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#69 Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#72 whats the world going to do when all the baby boomers retire
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#81 Tap and faucet and spellcheckers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#74 Too much change opens up financial fault lines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#92 CPU time differences for the same job
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#30 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#31 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#73 Price of CPU seconds
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#87 Berkeley researcher describes parallel path
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#89 Berkeley researcher describes parallel path
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#55 performance of hardware dynamic scheduling
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#50 Microsoft versus Digital Equipment Corporation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#56 Long running Batch programs keep IMS databases offline
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#26 What is the biggest IT myth of all time?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#30 Automation is still not accepted to streamline the business processes... why organizations are not accepting newer technolgies?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#7 If you had a massively parallel computing architecture, what unsolved problem would you set out to solve?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#87 Cleaning Up Spaghetti Code vs. Getting Rid of It
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#43 Business process re-engineering
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#14 Legacy clearing threat to OTC derivatives warns State Street
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#55 Cobol hits 50 and keeps counting
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#1 z/Journal Does it Again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#2 z/Journal Does it Again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#21 Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#23 Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX? (Are settlements a good argument for overnight batch COBOL ?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#43 Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX? (Are settlements a good argument for overnight batch COBOL ?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#57 IBM halves mainframe Linux engine prices
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#81 A Faster Way to the Cloud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#81 big iron mainframe vs. x86 servers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#67 Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#77 Korean bank Moves back to Mainframes (...no, not back)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#16 How long for IBM System/360 architecture and its descendants?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#19 STEM crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#37 16:32 far pointers in OpenWatcom C/C++
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#47 COBOL - no longer being taught - is a problem
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#78 Software that breaks computer hardware( was:IBM 029 service manual )
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#41 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#3 Assembler programs was Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#14 Age
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#13 Is the ATM still the banking industry's single greatest innovation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#37 A Bright Future for Big Iron?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#19 zLinux OR Linux on zEnterprise Blade Extension???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#42 Looking for a real Fortran-66 compatible PC compiler (CP/M or DOSor Windows
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#35 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#15 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#19 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#91 Mainframe Fresher
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#93 Itanium at ISSCC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#32 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#8 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 14 Jul, 2011 Subject: Leaving the world of standard operating procedures Blog: Boyd's Disciplesre:
From Steele:
Reference: GW Seminar on Reflexive Systems
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2011/07/reference-gw-seminar-on-reflexive-systems/
University Seminar on Reflexive Systems
http://www.gwu.edu/~uscs/
... and pieces of discussion from "Greater IBM" touching on leaders having
vested/personal interest in preserving status quo .... Forbes article
on "Why Did IBM Survive?" (i.e. it almost didn't):
http://blogs.forbes.com/stevedenning/2011/07/10/why-did-ibm-survive/
above references:
http://kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2011/07/corporate_long-.php
pieces of comments about top executives stuck in the past and not
adapting (Greater IBM is closed group ... so personal archive):
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#35 ,
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#36 ,
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#50
the forbes article also has a references to another of Denning's
articles, "Lessons In Innovation: How Was The Internet Invented?"
http://blogs.forbes.com/stevedenning/2011/07/12/lessons-in-innovation-how-was-the-internet-invented/
mentioning the NSFNET backbone (operational precursor to the modern
internet). I periodically pontificate about what went on then ... old
email during the runup to NSFNET backbone
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet
when it came down for the actual RFP, even after all the preliminary work, various internal politics prevented bidding (even when director of NSF writing the company a letter 3Apr1986, NSF Director to IBM Chief Scientist and IBM Senior VP and director of Research, copying IBM CEO) ... and there was references to what we already had running was at least five years ahead of all NSFNET Backbone RFP responses ... to build something new). The director of NSF warned that the letter might make the internal politics worse than they already were (which it did)
past posts mentioning NSFNET
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Before the PC: IBM invents virtualisation (Cambridge skunkworks) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:15:30 -0400Before the PC: IBM invents virtualisation; A brief history of virtualisation
there has been periodic derogotory comments with regard to the M44/44X mentioned in above
Before the PC: IBM invents virtualisation (Cambridge skunkworks)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/14/brief_history_of_virtualisation_part_2/page2.html
from above:
The project leader of CSC, Robert Creasy, observed that the M44/44X
"was close enough to a virtual machine system to show that 'close
enough' did not count"
... snip ...
and part 1:
Before 'the cloud' was cool: Virtualising the un-virtualisable
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/11/a_brief_history_of_virtualisation_part_one/
and past posts mentioning Bob:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#21 370 ECPS VM microcode assist
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#54 How Do the Old Mainframes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#126 Dispute about Internet's origins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#127 Dispute about Internet's origins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#59 360 Architecture, Multics, ... was (Re: X86 ultimate CISC? No.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#78 TSS ancient history, was X86 ultimate CISC? designs)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#10 VM: checking some myths.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#6 Microcode?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002c.html#44 cp/67 (coss-post warning)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005o.html#4 Robert Creasy, RIP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005o.html#10 Virtual memory and memory protection
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005o.html#38 SHARE reflections
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005s.html#21 MVCIN instruction
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#47 The rise of the virtual machines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#27 PDP-1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#21 history question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#52 CMS (PC Operating Systems)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#1 Designing database tables for performance?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#36 Wylbur and Paging
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#41 Virtual Storage implementation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#51 Translation of IBM Basic Assembler to C?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#64 CSA 'above the bar'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#29 Intel Ships Power-Efficient Penryn CPUs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#54 new 40+ yr old, disruptive technology
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#77 IBM Floating-point myths
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#14 What if the computers went back to the '70s too?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#16 What if the computers went back to the '70s too?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#13 System/360 Announcement (7apr64)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#81 A mighty fortress is our PKI
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#5 Memory v. Storage: What's in a Name?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#21 Mainframe Hall of Fame (MHOF)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#55 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#82 Multiple Virtual Memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#49 OT The inventor of Email - Tom Van Vleck
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Architecture / Instruction Set / Language co-design. Newsgroups: comp.arch, comp.compilers;, alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:56:11 -0400Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
5100, SCAMP: Special Computer, APL Machine Portable
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_5100
based on the PALM processor: Put All Logic in Microcode
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PALM_processor
cambridge science center had taken apl\360, and stripped out most of the monitor stuff (multitasking, swamping, etc) for cms\apl (under cp67, also redo storage management for large demand paged virtual memory environment; typical apl\360 had been 16kbyte to 32kbyte real-memory, swapped workspaces). recent news item mentioning cp67
Before the PC: IBM invents virtualisation (Cambridge skunkworks)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/14/brief_history_of_virtualisation_part_2/page2.html
in this post:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#54
misc. past posts mentioning science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
5100 was done at palo alto science center. About the same time, Palo Alto also does apl\cms (for vm370) and apl microcode for 370/145.
one of the largest APL services was HONE (first cp67 then moved to
VM370) ... internal world-wide sales & marketing support:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone
in the mid-70s, the US HONE datacenters were consolidated in building across the back parking lot from Palo Alto Science center. other trivia, looking at web satellite phote of the area ... a newer building was built next to HONE datacenter (which has a different occupant now) ... that newer bldg is now occupied by FACEBOOK.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Joint Design of Instruction Set and Language Newsgroups: comp.arch Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:18:17 -0400John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> writes:
at presention in '76, the 801 group claimed that the hardware simplification would be traded off against the sophistication of cp.r operating system and pl.8 compiler.
no hardware domain protection would be compensated by pl.8 compiler only generating correct code, and cp.r operating system only loading correct programs. the few number of virtual address segment registers would be compensated by inline application being able to switch virtual address segment registers ... as easily as general purpose (address) register values, can be switched. 801 would also not have any cache consistency (since 370 & FS had very high penalty for cache consistency).
circa 1980, there was big internal push for migrate large number of
internal microproceessors to 801 (Iliad) ... including lots of
controller microprocessors and the microprocessors used in low-end and
mid-range 370 (aka follow-on to 4341, the 4381 was originally to be
801/iliad processor). misc. old email mentioning 801, risc, iliad, etc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#801
when most of those efforts failed, some number of engineers left to do risc efforts at other companies.
the 801/ROMP was originally going to be for the follow-on to the
displaywriter ... when that effort failed, they looked around and
decided on retargeting for the unix workstation market. as part of that,
the company that had done the AT&T port for pc/ix, was contracted to do
a AT&T port to romp (becoming aixv2). hardware protection domain was
also needed in romp for transition from cp.r to unix. misc. past posts
mentioning 801, risc, romp, rios, power, power/pc, etc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801
for fun of it ... old email about request for 801 by LISP machine group:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#email790711
in this post (with several other old 801 emails)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#65 801
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 15 Jul, 2011 Subject: Low Carb Mavericks, John Boyd and the Art of War Blog: FacebookLow Carb Mavericks, John Boyd and the Art of War
Boyd would tell the story about the supercomputer time as being used to design the F16 ... while the powers-that-be were doing the F15. The people behind the F15 went to Sec of the Air Force and said they knew what Boyd was up to .... and it was not authorized ... so the supercomputer use was theft of gov. resources. They did detail investigation and never found any proof of his computer use (which was carefully obfuscated)
aka the purpose of the investigation was to shutdown the F16 effort (viewed as competition by the F15 forces) ... and was somewhat immaterial that it would send Boyd to Leavenworth for the rest of his life ... some x-over with Boyd's To Be or To Do that the best you might hope for is kick in the stomach.
past posts mentioning Boyd
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Speed matters: how Ethernet went from 3Mbps to 100Gbps... and beyond Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:18:28 -0400Speed matters: how Ethernet went from 3Mbps to 100Gbps... and beyond
3rd paragraph talks about token-ring
in the late 80s, the communication group was attempting to stave off
client/server and preserve 3270 terminal emulation paradigm (for which they
had major install base). misc. past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#emulation
they were pushing token-ring as solution for enormous complexity and weight problems from 3270 coax cable ... running point-to-point from datacenter to each 3270 terminal in the building. CAT4 was lighter could run from terminal to local wiring closet ... then with single CAT4 (aggregating multiple terminals) to datacenter (or even multiple wiring closet hierarchy between terminal and datacenter) ... eliminating the enormous cable runs from each terminal all the way back to datacenter (in some bldgs, there was danger of exceeding bldg load limit just from cable weight).
in that time-frame, we had come up with 3tier architecture and out
pitching to corporate execs and talking lots of barbs from token-ring
forces and the communication group; some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#3tier
including aggregate 3tier infrastructure using ethernet was both cheaper than terminal emulation environment (with token-ring), but also provided significant more bandwidth (and services) to client.
in the same time-frame, the new almaden research bldg had been extensively wired for (16mbit token-ring) CAT4 ... but found (10mbit) enet provided both higher bandwidth and lower latency (than 16mbit T/R).
the dallas e/s center came out with report showing 16mbit token-ring was far superior to enet ... but I believed the only conceivable way was they used early/original 3mbit enet (before listen-before-transmit).
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: FW: Mysterious Email (original had no subject) Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 15 Jul 2011 08:53:46 -0700barry@MXG.COM (Barry Merrill) writes:
for even more drift, recent thread in this mailing list with some PROFs
(regarding gov. installation):
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#73 We list every company in the world that has a mainframe computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#74 We list every company in the world that has a mainframe computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#75 We list every company in the world that has a mainframe computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#0 We list every company in the world that has a mainframe computer
of other drift, past posts mentioning backup/archive
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#backup
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Speed matters: how Ethernet went from 3Mbps to 100Gbps... and beyond Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:47:07 -0400Morten Reistad <first@last.name> writes:
latency and aggregate bandwidth of 16mbit T/R (worse than 10mbit enet) was because latency for token to transition the ring. that was separate from technology of 16mbit T/R cards and individual cards having significantly worse throughput than 10mbit enet cards.
PC/RT workstation had done their own 4mbit T/R card for the AT bus. however for the RS/6000 with microchannel, the group was told they couldn't design their own cards and mandated to use PS/2 microchannel adapter cards (helping their PS/2 brethren, however for lots of things that restricted RS/6000 to thruput of PS/2).
in large part because of the "terminal" emulation push, design point
was to have 300 (or more) stations sharing 16mbit bandwidth ... with
very little activity per station. result was that the PS/2 16mbit T/R
microchannel adapter card had lower per card thruput than the PC/RT
4mbit T/R AT-bus adapter card.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#emulation
Since PC/RT & RS/6000 tended to very much be client/server environment
... a PC/RT server with 4mbit T/R adapter into network could have much
higher thruput than RS/6000 server with 16mbit T/R adapter
(client/server environment tending to asymmetric bandwidth; i.e. server
requirements tending to the aggregate of all the clients).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801
All that is also separate from extremely high markup on the 16mbit T/R cards ... price over ten times that of readily available high-performance 10mbit enet cards.
disclaimer: my wife is one of the inventors on token-passing patent from late 70s.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Joint Design of Instruction Set and Language Newsgroups: comp.arch Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:26:06 -0400anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) writes:
with regard to engineers leaving for other companies after various internal 801 efforts were canceled
... a couple old emails regarding people leaving (and asking if i
would go also)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#email811006
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#email811006b
in this previously referenced post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#65 801
itanium wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itanium
one of the people is (also) credited with retrofitting "access
registers" to 3033 as dual-address space, doing a lot of 801 stuff then
leaving and doing risc for another vendor ... and then of the main
people behind wide-word and i64. misc. past posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000c.html#84 Is a VAX a mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#57 Why not an IBM zSeries workstation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#18 Black magic in POWER5
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004f.html#28 [Meta] Marketplace argument
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004f.html#29 [Meta] Marketplace argument
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#39 What happens if CR's are directly changed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006e.html#1 About TLB in lower-level caches
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#67 How the Pentium Fell Short of a 360/195
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#60 Different Implementations of VLIW
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#6 Is it time to stop research in Computer Architecture ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#2 Far and near pointers on the 80286 and later
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#10 Far and near pointers on the 80286 and later
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#17 New job for mainframes: Cloud platform
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Announcement of the disk drive (1956) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:59:23 -0400Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
in the 70s, i transferred to san jose research (bldg. 28 on san jose
plant site) ... and they would let me play disk engineer over in
bldgs. 14 & 15 (across the street). misc. past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk
from ibm archives
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/storage/storage_basic.html
Fifty years of storage innovation
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/storage/storage_fifty.html
20th century disk storage chronolog
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/storage/storage_chrono20.html
sparse references to drums in any of the above (almost like they clensed mention of drums in general storage references, seemed to start when they sold off the san jose plant site and san jose plant site storage web pages went away).
650 magnetic drum:
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/650/650_ph09.html
in the late 80s, a senior disk engineer got a talk scheduled at
world-wide, annual, internal communication group conference ... and
opened the talk with the statement that the communication group was
going to be responsible for the demise of the disk division. the issue
was that the communication group had stranglehold on the datacenter
... had corporate "ownership" for everything that crossed the datacenter
walls. the issue was that communication group stangle-hold including
attempting to preserve the terminal emulation paradigm (and install
base) and data was fleeing the datacenter to more distributed computing
platforms (the disk division had developed a number of products to
address the situation, but the communication group had veto'ed them).
recent related thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#58 Speed matters: how Ethernet went from 3Mbps to 100Gbps... and beyond
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#60 Speed matters: how Ethernet went from 3Mbps to 100Gbps... and beyond
past posts mentioning terminal emulation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#emulation
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Before the PC: IBM invents virtualisation (Cambridge skunkworks) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:39:26 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
register has blog/forum on the subject ... where I've made a few
comments:
http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/07/14/brief_history_of_virtualisation_part_2/
vm history
lots of history in Melinda's history document, i recently provided her
with a single file PDF version
https://www.leeandmelindavarian.com/Melinda/neuvm.pdf
and kindle version
https://www.leeandmelindavarian.com/Melinda/neuvm.azw
built from her multi-file postscript version
Science center first did cp/40 having added virtual memory hardware to
360/40. cp/40 morphed into CP/67 when they were able to obtain 360/67
that came standard with virtual memory hardware. Later cp/67 morphed
into vm370 when virtual memory became standard on 370s. lots of past
posts mentioning science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
TSS/360 was the "official" software for 360/67 ... but they had numerous
difficulties. Running same exact simulated application script for
fortran edit, compile and execute ... I got better throughput and
responses for 35 simulated CP67/CMS users than the IBM SE got with 4
simulated TSS/360 users (running on same identical 360/67 hardware).
In the 70s, the massive (failed) Future System effort (was going to
completely replace 370) heavily used the single-level-store from
TSS/360.
... snip ...
S/38/AS400
The massive (failed) Future System effort in the early 70s was going to
completely replace 370 and drew heavily on single-level-store design
from TSS/360. The folklore is that when FS failed, several people
retreated to rochester and did a simplified, FS subset as
S/38. misc. past posts mentioning future system
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
I had learned a lot at the univ. watching tss/360 testing and its
comparison with cp67/cms. Later at the science center in the 70s (during
the future system period), I continued to do 360/370 stuff ... including
a page-mapped filesystem for CMS (which never shipped in standard
product) ... avoiding a lot of the tss/360 pitfalls (I would also
periodically ridicule the FS effort ... with comments that what I had
already had running was better than their bluesky stuff).
... snip ...
CTSS, Multics, CP40, CP67, etc
note that some of the CTSS people (MIT IBM 7094) went to the 5th flr of
545 tech sq and did MULTICS; others went to the science center on 4th
flr of 545 tech sq and did (virtual machine) cp40, cp67, vm370, etc
... snip ...
360/67, tss/360, cp67, mts, orvyl/wylbur
There were quite a few customers sold 360/67 with the promise of running
tss/360. when tss/360 looked like it was going to be difficult to birth
... many switched to os/360 or cp67. Michigan did its own (virtual
memory) MTS system and Stanford did its own (virtual memory)
Orvyl/Wylbur system. Later the Wylbur part was ported to os/360
... snip ...
VMA, virtual machine microcode assist
cp40 & cp67 provided virtual machine support by running the virtual
machine in problem state and taking the privilege/supervisor state
interrupts for supervisor state instructions and simulated them. Later
for vm/370 and 370, virtual machine microcode assist was provided on
370/158 and 370/168 which would executive frequently executed supervisor
state instructions according to virtual machine rules.
A superset of this was extended for 370/138 & 370/148 called ECPS
... which included dropping parts of vm370 supervisor into
microcode. There was an attempt to ship all 138/148 machines with VM370
pre-installed ... sort of a early software flavor of LPARS ... which was
overruled by corporate hdqtrs (at the time there were various parts of
the corporation working on killing vm370).
A much larger and more complete facility was done for 370/xa on 3081
called SIE.
Amdahl came out with a "hardware" only "hypervisor" function ... sort of
superset of SIE ... but subset of virtual machine configuration.
IBM responded with similar facility PR/SM on the 3090 ... which was
further expanded to multiple logical partitions as LPARS. PR/SM heavily
relied on the SIE microcode implementation ... and for a long time a
vm/370 operating system running in an LPAR couldn't use SIE ... because
it was already in use for LPAR. It took additional development where
vm370 running in an LPAR (using SIE) could also use SIE for its own
virtual machines (aka effectively SIE running under SIE).
... snip ...
s/38 single-level-store
one of the shortcomings of simplified s/38 single-level-store was it
treated all disks as common pool of storage with scatter allocation
across the pool. As a result all disks had to be backed up as a single
integral filesystem and any single disk failure would require a whole
filesystem restore (folklore about extended length of time to do a
complete restore after single disk failure) . single disk failures were
fairly common failure mode and s/38 approach scales up poorly to
environment with 300 disks (or more) ... aka on any disk failure take
down the whole system while the complete configuration was restored (or
length of time the system would be down for complete backup).
this shortcoming was motivation for s/38 to be early adopter of RAID
technology ... as means of masking single disk failures.
... snip ...
virtual paging under virtual paging
VM370 supported the memory of the virtual machine with demand paged
virtual memory managed by an approximation to global LRU. MVS/370
running in a virtual machine, managed its virtual pages (in what it
thot was "real memory") with an LRU approximation.
LRU or least recently used ... assumed that a page that hasn't been
used for the longest time is the least likely page to be used in the
future. It can be paged out and the real storage allocated for some
other use.
It was possible for MVS/370 with its LRU paging to get in pathological
situation when running under vm370 (with its LRU paging). VM370 will
select an MVS/370 virtual machine virtual page to be replaced (paged
out) because it hasn't been used for a long time (aka least recently
used). However, if MVS/370 is also paging (using LRU page
replacement), that same page is also the one that MVS/370 will decide
to use next (i.e. invalidating the assumptions behind vm370's
least-recently-used page replacement)
... snip ...
xmas tree
vmshare reference 10dec87 to xmas exec on bitnet
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/browse.cgi?fn=CHRISTMA&ft=PROB
risk digest reference (21dec87)
http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/5.81.html#subj1
misc. past posts mentioning bitnet (used technology similar to
internal network)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet
this is old post where I try and reproduce the effects of a 1981 rexx
xmas tree that used FSX for 3279
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#54
note that the bitnet 1987 xmas exec was almost exactly a year before
the morris worm on the internet.
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 16 Jul, 2011 Subject: Zen and Connaturality Blog: Boyd Disciplesre:
for slightly different approach, I'm in the process of reading "The
Information: A history, A theory, A flood" (on kindle)
http://around.com/the-information
it is spending quite a bit on how the invention of the alphabet enabled logic and thinking about thinking (the words were abstraction of what they were suppose to represent). it sort of says that before it was available, people dealt with their environment based on what they had (personally) experienced. afterwards people could start to deal with their environment based on logic & abstraction (w/o necessarily having personal experience).
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Architecture / Instruction Set / Language co-design. Newsgroups: comp.arch Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:11:27 -0400mac <acolvin@efunct.com> writes:
432 group gave presentation at acm sigops (asilomar, 79? or 81?). one of the big problems was that there was large amount of complex code directly in silicon ... which had tendency to have bugs ... and it was very expensive to correct.
i still have some old 432 reference manuals
misc. past posts mentioning 432
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000c.html#61 TF-1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#57 iAPX-432 (was: 36 to 32 bit transition
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#62 iAPX-432 (was: 36 to 32 bit transition
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#6 Ridiculous
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#48 Famous Machines and Software that didn't
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#54 FBA History Question (was: RE: What's the meaning of track overfl ow?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#36 What was object oriented in iAPX432?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#2 Minimalist design (was Re: Parity - why even or odd)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#27 iAPX432 today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#46 IBM Mainframe at home
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#19 Computer Architectures
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002o.html#5 Anyone here ever use the iAPX432 ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#11 computers and alcohol
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#5 vax6k.openecs.org rebirth
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#6 vax6k.openecs.org rebirth
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003c.html#17 difference between itanium and alpha
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#54 Reviving Multics
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#55 Reviving Multics
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#56 Reviving Multics
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003m.html#23 Intel iAPX 432
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003m.html#24 Intel iAPX 432
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003m.html#47 Intel 860 and 960, was iAPX 432
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#45 hung/zombie users ... long boring, wandering story
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004d.html#12 real multi-tasking, multi-programming
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#52 Infiniband - practicalities for small clusters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#60 Will multicore CPUs have identical cores?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#64 Will multicore CPUs have identical cores?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#73 Athlon cache question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#64 Misuse of word "microcode"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005k.html#46 Performance and Capacity Planning
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005o.html#35 Implementing schedulers in processor????
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#31 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#47 IBM 610 workstation computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#42 Why is zSeries so CPU poor?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#44 Any resources on VLIW?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#15 "25th Anniversary of the Personal Computer"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#7 32 or even 64 registers for x86-64?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#61 ISA Support for Multithreading
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#32 Is the media letting banks off the hook on payment card security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#36 Oracle Introduces Oracle VM As It Leaps Into Virtualization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#78 CPU time differences for the same job
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#54 Throwaway cores
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#32 CPU time differences for the same job
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#35 Two views of Microkernels (Re: Kernels
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#22 CLIs and GUIs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#52 Lack of bit field instructions in x86 instruction set because of patents ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#32 Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#13 Microprocessors with Definable MIcrocode
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#18 Microprocessors with Definable MIcrocode
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#46 U.S. begins inquiry of IBM in mainframe market
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#74 Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#1 IA64
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#45 IA64
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#8 Far and near pointers on the 80286 and later
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#40 Faster image rotation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#22 Personal use z/OS machines was Re: Multiprise 3k for personal Use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#28 Personal histories and IBM computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#7 RISCversus CISC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#91 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 17 Jul, 2011 Subject: Wasn't instant messaging on IBM's VM/CMS in the early 1980s Blog: LinkedInCP/67 provided (instant) messages between users on the same machine. Pisa Science Center added SPM command to CP67 which allowed virtual machine to "intercept" things like cp messages and other stuff under software control. In the early 70s this was migrated to vm370 and was used internally by RSCS to support both "commands" sent as messages as well as forwarding messages to users at other nodes on the internal network (providing "instant" messaging on the same machine as well with users on other nodes in the network). The RSCS that shipped to customers in '76 included SPM support. In the late 70s, the author of REXX implemented a multiuser client/server spacewar game using the facility.
I was blamed for online computer conferencing on the internal network
in the late 70s and early 80s (internal network was larger than
arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until possibly late '85
or early '86). Somewhat as a result, there was a researcher paid to
sit in back of my office for 9months taking notes on how i
communicate. They also got logs of all my instant messages and copies
of all my incoming and outgoing email. This became research report,
stanford phd thesis (joint computer ai and language) and some number
of papers and books. references to computer mediated coversation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#cmc
past posts mentioning internal network
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
misc posts mentiong SPM and/or multiuser spacewar
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#32 z900 and Virtual Machine Theory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001j.html#26 Help needed on conversion from VM to OS390
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#20 Whatever happened to IBM's VM PC software?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#12 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#4 Fast action games on System/360+?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#51 other cp/cms history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#47 To RISC or not to RISC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#8 Why these original FORTRAN quirks?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#16 intersection between autolog command and cmsback (more history)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#11 vm/sp1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#14 Just another example of mainframe costs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#14 more shared segment archeology
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#25 IBM 360 Model 20 Questions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#22 Was CMS multi-tasking?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#41 Was CMS multi-tasking?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#73 Addressing Scheme with 64 vs 63 bits
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#48 New machine code
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#67 Status of Arpanet/Internet in 1976?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#5 real-time messages
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#74 Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#0 What is the protocal for GMT offset in SMTP (e-mail) header time-stamp?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#33 Was VM ever used as an exokernel?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#28 CSC History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#5 Is email dead? What do you think?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#89 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#49 My first mainframe experience
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#56 VAXen on the Internet
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 17 Jul, 2011 Subject: U.S. can't account for $8.7 billion of Iraq's money: audit Blog: Google+U.S. can't account for $8.7 billion of Iraq's money: audit
wasn't there also something about shipping $12B in pallets of $100 bills and $6B is unaccounted for
news item 2007 ($12B in shrink wrapped $100s)
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/feb/08/usa.iraq1
and then go from billion to trillion:
http://www.cdi.org/program/document.cfm?documentid=4623
note cdi.org has moved to
http://www.pogo.org/straus/
... missing $1T is now
http://www.pogo.org/straus/issues/defense-budget/2010/what-did-the-rumsfeld-gates-pentagon-do-with-1-trillion.html
person that testified in Madoff hearings about trying unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff, replied to question about need for new regulations, that while new regulation may be necessary, much more important was transparency and visibility (which is pretty much antithesis of culture around wallstreet)
In the wake of Enron, SOX was passed requiring very expensive audits for public companies but required SEC to do something. Possibly because GAO (also) didn't think SEC was doing anything, it started doing reports of uptic in public company fraudulent financial filings (even after SOX). SOX also required SEC to do something about rating agencies (which played pivotal role in the financial mess). In the rating agency hearings, there was comment that the rating agencies could possibly avoid federal prosecution with blackmail threat of credit down rating.
and with respect to enron, sox, sec, gao, etc ... quote seen on the web: "Enron was a dry run and it worked so well it has become institutionalized"
misc. recent posts mentioning ENRON and/or SOX:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#46 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#48 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#80 Chinese and Indian Entrepreneurs Are Eating America's Lunch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#42 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#23 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#28 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#7 I actually miss working at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#9 I actually miss working at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#36 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#38 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#56 In your opinon, what is the highest risk of financial fraud for a corporation ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#35 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#52 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#62 Mixing Auth and Non-Auth Modules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#64 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#86 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#5 How they failed to catch Madoff
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#40 Fight Fraud with Device ID
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#47 Lords: Auditors guilty of 'dereliction of duty'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#52 Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#25 US Housing Crisis Is Now Worse Than Great Depression
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#41 Delinquent Homeowners to Get Mortgage Aid from Government
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#66 Senate Democrats Ask House to Boost SEC Funding
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#19 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#21 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#25 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 18 Jul, 2011 Subject: Why the US needs a data privacy law -- and why it might finally get one Blog: Google+Why the US needs a data privacy law -- and why it might finally get one
There have been quite a few federal bills introduced in the more than decade since cal. legislation, about evenly divided into approx. the same as the cal. legislation and those that would eliminate notification.
note that about the same time as the cal. notification legislation, cal. was also working on an "opt-in" privacy sharing bill (only can share when explicitly authorized), when an (federal pre-emption) "opt-out" sharing provision was added to GLBA (other provisions contributed to financial bubble). Middle of last decade, there was annual privacy conference in WashDC that included panel discussion with FTC commissioners. From the audience a person said that they were associated with call center operations and claimed major financial centers didn't bother to record/keep any information from 1-800 "opt-out" calls (no record of people declining personal information sharing), and wondered if the FTC would ever investigate
disclaimer: I was co-author of financial industry x9.99 privacy standard.
a little x-over with recent thread mentioning SEC wasn't doing
anything in the same period.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#67 U.S. can't account for $8.7 billion of Iraq's money: audit
misc. recent posts mentioning opt-out, opt-in and/or GLBA:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#45 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#59 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#19 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#28 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#41 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#48 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#55 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#7 Home prices may drop another 25%, Shiller predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#9 Breaches and Consumer Backlash
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#25 US Housing Crisis Is Now Worse Than Great Depression
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#55 CISO's Guide to Breach Notification
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#18 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#45 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Making Z/OS easier - Effectively replacing JCL with Unix like commands Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 18 Jul 2011 09:49:38 -0700charlesm@MCN.ORG (Charles Mills) writes:
I was working on getting one of the people (responsible for mainframe pascal) to do C language front-end ... when he left and went to work for metaware. when the palo alto group was planning on doing BSD unix for mainframe, I talked them into contracting with metaware for the C compiler. However, before that mainframe BSD unix shipped, the group was retargeted to PC/RT ... eventually coming out with "AOS" (bsd unix running on pc/rt) ... but still using metaware's c compiler.
the disk division eventually sponsored the posix support on MVS ... one of the many things they were doing to try and get around the stranglehold that the communication group had on the mainframe datacenter (most of which the communication group vetoed ... since the communication group had strategic ownership for everything that crossed the datacenter walls; disk division being hdqtrd in silicon valley possibly helped with their perspective)
misc past posts mentioning disk division talk at annual, internal,
world-wide communication group conference that started out with the
statement that the communication group was going to be responsible for
the demise of the disk division (the communication group stranglehold
was already resulting in data fleeing the mainframe datacenter to more
distributed computing friendly platforms).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal
a co-worker that helped with the original CMSBACK (eventually morphs
into today's TSM) ... misc. past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#backup
... left and did a lot of consulting for various silicon valley chip shops. At one place, he did a lot of work and enhancements for the AT&T C compiler (and some number of other vendor C compilers) for their operations on mainframe (as part of porting BSD vlsi tools to the mainframe). At one point he was doing a lot of work doing mainframe ethernet support as part of supporting SGI graphics workstations for displaying VLSI designs. The salesman dropped in and asked him what was going on and after being told, the salesman suggested that he should be doing token-ring support instead (or otherwise the customer might find mainframe support and maintenance suffering). Afterwards, I got a phone call and had to listen to several hours of comments about the company, local branch office and salesmen. The next morning, the vlsi company had big press release that they were moving off mainframe to unix servers.
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 18 Jul, 2011 Subject: Pentagon Struggles To Keep Ships Sailing, Planes Flying As Budget Cuts Loom Blog: FacebookPentagon Struggles To Keep Ships Sailing, Planes Flying As Budget Cuts Loom
can't resist referring to:
What Did the Rumsfeld/Gates Pentagon Do with $1 Trillion?
http://www.cdi.org/program/document.cfm?documentid=4623
note cdi.org has moved to
http://www.pogo.org/straus/
... missing $1T is now
http://www.pogo.org/straus/issues/defense-budget/2010/what-did-the-rumsfeld-gates-pentagon-do-with-1-trillion.html
and
Unaccountable Pentagon
http://www.cdi.org/program/document.cfm?DocumentID=4630&StartRow=31&ListRows=10&appendURL&Orderby=D.DateLastUpdated&ProgramID=37&from_page=index.cfm
and
Why the Defense Meltdown Was Preventable; Defense Death Spiral
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com/p/links-to-my-reports.html
from above:
Unclassified Report of Franklin C. Spinney
http://web.me.com/chaliventures/Links_to_Reports/Links_to_Idisk.html
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: The Unix revolution -- thank you, Uncle Sam? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:36:22 -0400The Unix revolution -- thank you, Uncle Sam?
while the above mentions '56 AT&T consent decree and open source ...
the litigation against ibm resulted in the 23jun69 unbundling
announcement and starting to charge for software (just the opposite)
... misc. past posts mentions unbundling
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle
for other topic drift ... recent c/unix post in mainframe mailing
list thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#69 Making Z/OS easier - Effectively replacing JCL with Unix like commands
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: NYTimes: IBM, helped by new mainframe sales, exceeds analysts' expectations Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 19 Jul 2011 05:43:14 -0700john_w_gilmore@MSN.COM (john gilmore) writes:
IBM Gains After Raising Profit Forecast on Software Demand
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-07-19/ibm-gains-most-in-two-years-after-raising-profit-forecast.html
from above:
Software sales advanced 17 percent, evidence that Chief Executive
Officer Sam Palmisano is making headway on efforts to bulk up in that
area, in addition to services, IBM's mainstay. Together, the divisions
accounted for 80 percent of IBM's sales in the quarter, up from 65
percent a decade earlier.
... snip ...
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The Unix revolution -- thank you, Uncle Sam? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:50:38 -0400"John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> writes:
1st cp67 installation outside science center was at lincoln labs
(univ. I was at was the 2nd outside science center). then fairly
quickly, there were two cp67 commerical timesharing service bureaus
startups, one by the head of lincoln labs (with some others from lincoln
labs). recent cp67 reference
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#54 Before the PC: IBM invents virtualisation (Cambridge skunkworks)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#63 Before the PC: IBM invents virtualisation (Cambridge skunkworks)
misc. past posts mentioning cp67 commercial timesharing service bureaus
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#timeshare
misc. past posts mentioning science center (4th flr, 545 tech sq)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
total aside, I'm currently reading (on Kindle) Gleick's "The
Information: A History, A Theory, a Flood" ... which has some amount
about Bell and Shannon.
https://www.amazon.com/Information-History-Theory-Flood-ebook/dp/B004DEPHUC
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The Unix revolution -- thank you, Uncle Sam? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:20:47 -0400jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
early 70s, some group stationed watchers all over the boston/cambridge area and called in threat to fbi offices in boston (to see what building got evacuated).
past reference to certain 3-letter agency being on 3rd floor of 545 tech
sq (listed as lawyer offices in the directory).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/93.html#26 MTS & LLMPS?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#47 Is C close to the machine?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#15 545 Tech Square
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Check out June 2011 | TOP500 Supercomputing Sites To: <ibm-main@bama.ua.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:09:35 -0400Efinnell15@AOL.COM (Ed Finnell) writes:
recent comment (in linkedin) thread that possibly single blade
mega-datacenters may have more MIPs than the aggregate of all
currently installed mainframes:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#9 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
note that original 64bit sparc was being done at HAL (initials from
former head of ibm 801/risc workstation division and head of sun
manufacturing, there was glitch at last minute with sun objecting to
participation by former sun employee) ... heavily funded by fujitsu
... eventually absorbed into fujitsu.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_Computer_Systems
misc. past posts mentioning 801, risc, romp, rios, power, power/pc, etc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: DG Fountainhead vs IBM Future Systems Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 12:19:10 -0400Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
national lab had 6600 "RAIN" benchmark (before linpack) ... looking at ordering 70 4341s.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#21 moving on
and old post with afdc started out looking at 20 4341s which grew to 210:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#15 departmental servers
linpack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LINPACK
for other drift ... post from today in mainframe mailing list about
top500:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#75 Check out June 2011 | TOP500 Supercomputing Sites
old posts about late 70s national lab "RAIN" 6600 benchmark on 4341, 158, &
3031:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#0 Is a VAX a mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#7 4341 was "Is a VAX a mainframe?"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#32 mainframe question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#15 departmental servers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#0 Microcode?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#7 IBM Mainframe at home
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002f.html#8 Is AMD doing an Intel?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#7 CDC6600 - just how powerful a machine was it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#19 CDC6600 - just how powerful a machine was it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#22 CDC6600 - just how powerful a machine was it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#37 IBM was: CDC6600 - just how powerful a machine was it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002k.html#4 misc. old benchmarks (4331 & 11/750)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#10 Mainframe System Programmer/Administrator market demand?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005m.html#25 IBM's mini computers--lack thereof
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#30 HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#38 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#32 Multiple address spaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#39 another blast from the past
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#40 REAL memory column in SDSF
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#41 Ranking of non-IBM mainframe builders?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#19 old vm370 mitre benchmark
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#31 The Future of CPUs: What's After Multi-Core?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#21 moving on
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#62 Cycles per ASM instruction
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#32 I/O in Emulated Mainframes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#44 Is computer history taught now?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#54 mainframe performance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#18 Microminiaturized Modules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#50 what IBM 360/370/etc. model was their best seller?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#67 ACP, One of the Oldest Open Source Apps
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#37 While watching Biography about Bill Gates on CNBC last Night
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#87 "The Naked Mainframe" (Forbes Security Article)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#36 What was old is new again (water chilled)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#42 IBM 3883 Manuals
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#45 Basic question about CPU instructions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#43 CKD DASD
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#41 My first mainframe experience
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: program coding pads Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:00:07 -0400jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
there was 360/67 ... in the uniprocessor version it was nearly identical
to 360/65 but with the addition of virtual memory support. however, the
SMP version quite a bit of additional engineering, up to four processors
sharing memory (although I think only 3ways were actually built) and it
had "shared" channel support (any processor could access any channel).
360 shared channels weren't seen again until more than decade later with
3081. recent mention of 360/67
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#54 Before the PC: IBM invents virtualisation (Cambridge skunkworks)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#63 Before the PC: IBM invents virtualisation (Cambridge skunkworks)
misc. past posts mentioning SMP and/or invention of compare&swap
instruction
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp
there were also "loosely-coupled" configurations where the processors didn't have any shared memory ... but had twin-tailed controllers to different channels on different processors.
in the 70s, 3830 disk controller (for 3330, 3340, 3350 disks) supported four-tailed operation (controller could be connected to four different channels on four different processors). There was also "string-switch" ... sort of a sub-controller ... where a string of 8 3330 drives could be connected to two different 3830 controllers (where each controller might have four channel connections, allowing up to eight channel paths to a single string of disks).
Larger loosely-coupled supported for reservation systems with ACP
(airline control program, 1979 renamed TPF, transaction processing
facility ... when some of the financial networks started using).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transaction_Processing_Facility
ACP/TPF leveraged loosely-coupled operation for both "fault isolation"
(various kinds of storage overlays that could corrupt SMP operation) as
well as processing growth. For 3830, there was also special ACP "locking
facility" ... that supported logical locks providing much finer
granularity than the traditional device reserve/release. referenced
in this old email (also mentioned in the TPF wiki page):
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#email800325
in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#39 American Airlines
disclaimer ... long ago and far away, my wife did stint in POK (ibm large mainframe hdqtrs) in charge of loosely-coupled architecture.
One of the issues for ACP/TPF was that 3081 wasn't going to have a non-SMP version and ACP/TPF didn't have tightly-coupled support (only loosely-coupled support). There were all sort of antics that were done to try and satisfy the ACP/TPF customers (keep them from all going to Amdahl ... which was shipping non-SMP products). One of the interim things was hack to vm/370 specifically for improving thruput of TPF running in single virtual machine on 3081 (but significantly increased virtual machine overhead for all customers running vm370 multiprocessor configurations). Eventually there was a specially modified 3081 with one of the processors removed ... sold as 3083 (one of the problems was 3081 was internally wired with processor0 at the top of the box, simply removing processor1 in the middle of the box would have left the box top-heavy and some danger of tipping). Later there was special 3083 channel microcode load tailored for distinctly TPF I/O characteriscs.
this references some of the other characteristics of 3081
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm
2nd disclaimer ... somewhat later, my wife did short stint
as chief architect for Amadeus (european tpf reservation
system, somewhat scaffolded off Eastern's "systemone"):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amadeus_CRS
she got caught up in x.25/sna battle ... supporting x.25 resulting in the sna forces having her replaced ... didn't do them any good since amadeus went with x.25 anyway.
eastern history reference:
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/valueone/valueone_flying.html
other airline res
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_reservations_system
misc. recent references to 3083:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#19 zLinux OR Linux on zEnterprise Blade Extension???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#49 vm/370 3081
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#70 vm/370 3081
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#16 Other early NSFNET backbone
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#26 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#43 Sabre; The First Online Reservation System
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#49 Dyadic vs AP: Was "CPU utilization/forecasting"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#60 Dyadic vs AP: Was "CPU utilization/forecasting"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#7 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The Unix revolution -- thank you, Uncle Sam? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:16:32 -0400jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
in the early 80s, there was incident with former employee driving vehicle through the glass windows. after that incident there was major change in computer room design and placement. the "new" almaden research bldg in the mid80s also had some number of landscaping features making it difficult for vehicle to enter bldg. some number of those features increased around gov. bldgs in the last decade.
from ibm jargon:
Drive-in Branch n. ISG HQ in Bethesda, Maryland. Named for an incident
in 1982 when a former IBM employee drove his car through the doors of
the building (which never was a branch office, in fact) and went on a
shooting spree that killed or injured a number of people. Many of the
fortifications around the entrances of IBM buildings date from this
incident. [This usage is unfortunately quite common, being used by
those unaware of the details of the incident. It is considered to be
in bad taste by those who lost friends and colleagues.] See also Rusty
Bucket.
... snip ...
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 21 Jul, 2011 Subject: Innovation and iconoclasm Blog: Boyd Disciplesre:
In IBM, there use to be references to Watson & "wild duck" employees. However, with Opel & Akers, there are references to the FS failure (and associated loss of face by top executives) resulted in culture change to sycophancy and make no waves. The joke was that "wild ducks" were still tolerated as long as they flew in formation. Recently, as part of the 100th anniversary celebration, they did video about Watson "wild ducks" ... but it was about "wild duck" customers (with no reference to "wild duck" employees).
I had gotten blamed for online computer conferencing on the internal network (larger than the arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until possibly late '85 or early '86) in the late 70s and early 80s. The folklore was that when the executive committee (chairman, ceo, pres, etc) was informed of online computer conferencing (and the internal network), 5of6 wanted to fire me (repeatedly over nearly my whole employment, I was told there was no career or promotions).
for a little drift, earlier today, I had posted this reference
Ranking the (Innovation) Rankings
http://americaandtheglobaleconomy.wordpress.com/2011/07/08/ranking-the-innovation-rankings/
along with this comment:
old article from 2007 (US 'no longer technology king'):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6502725.stm
and more recent (What Matters: Has the US passed peak productivity growth?):
http://whatmatters.mckinseydigital.com/the_debate_zone/has-the-us-passed-peak-productivity-growth
and from today (Report Calls For Shift In How Science Is Taught):
http://www.redorbit.com/news/education/2082368/report_calls_for_shift_in_how_science_is_taught/index.html/
there has recently been something of the inverse discussion (on facebook)
Two never-finished Navy ships head to scrap heap
http://hamptonroads.com.nyud.net/2011/07/two-neverfinished-navy-ships-head-scrap-heap
more of the same ($46 Billion Worth of Cancelled Programs)
http://defensetech.org/2011/07/19/46-billion-worth-of-canceled-programs/
... and reads like Success Of Failure culture (make more money from having several failures) ... which could imply purposefully selecting for those that support the status quo (and not innovate)
there is also another similar discussion about F35
in the MIC/MICC there can be hundreds of billions involved and upsetting the status quo can result in serious action (one explanation is that large percentage are totally amoral ... its nothing personal, purely business ... aka money).
Boyd's story about doing the F16 was anticipating serious repercussions from the F15 forces. At one point the F15 forces go to the secretary of airforce and complain, pointing out that they know Boyd is doing the F16, it is unauthorized, he has to be using enormous amounts of supercomputer time, also unauthorized. The unauthorized supercomputer time amounts to tens of millions in theft of gov. property. They start an investigation which could send Boyd to Leavenworth for life ... but extensive audits of all gov. computers find no evidence of Boyd's use. He would tell that after they gave up, the person heading the investigation came to him ... saying he would like to know how it was done ... just for his own personal information.
He would also tell about taking 18 months leading up to the Spinney article (18 pages, time magazine in the early 80s). They had to make sure that they had copy of written authorization for every piece of information for unclassified congressional briefing. The hearing itself involved a lot of politics with it eventually being moved to small, cramp hearing room on Friday afternoon. Sat. morning supposedly SECDEF is holding damage control meeting and relieved to only find passing reference in the papers. Then the 18page article hits the news stands on Monday morning. Investigation kicks off trying to convict Spinney of anything ... but there is the carefully constructed paper trail. DOD supposedly creates a new classification, "NOSPIN" (unclassified but not to be given to Spinney), also SECDEF supposedly claims that they know Boyd is behind it, has him transferred to remote outpost in Alaska, and banned from entering the Pentagon for life (politics again come into play and order is rescinded)
Spinney's blog:
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com/
Steele will reference Spinney
http://www.phibetaiota.net/tag/spinney/
note that in the Success of Failure series, an agency person that
talked to the reporter was charged with all sorts of serious
offenses. When the dust finally settled (last couple weeks) all he was
convicted of was misdemeanor ... nothing to do with talking to the
reporter. There has been some number of articles about gov (&
corporate) serious intimidation of whistle blowers. old reference to
Success Of Failure series:
http://www.govexec.com/management/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/
somewhat unrelated "abuse of power to preserve status quo" (from today) ... not simply limited to intimidating whistle-blowers
A pound of flesh: how Cisco's "unmitigated gall" derailed one man's life
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/07/a-pound-of-flesh-how-ciscos-unmitigated-gall-derailed-one-mans-life/
past posts &/or references mentioning Boyd
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 21 Jul, 2011 Subject: Greed, Excess and America's Gaping Class Divide Blog: FacebookGreed, Excess and America's Gaping Class Divide
Cooperation vs. Competition: Greed is good -- but only a moderate
amount
http://phys.org/news/2011-07-cooperation-competition-greed-good-.html
there was also a paper from UK in the wake of the financial bubble burst about mathematics of regulation and complex systems spinning out of control when all controls have been removed (my alternate analogy were allowing individual hotbeds of greed&corruption coming together in a financial firestorm). I'm also currently reading (on Kindle) Gleick's recent "The Information: A History, A Theory, A Flood" ... mentions positive feedback resulting in systems running away (microphone/amplifier/speaker) where negative feedback is necessary to keep industrial systems from "run away".
misc. past posts mentioning financial firestorm analogy:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#27 The Zippo Lighter theory of the financial crisis (or, who do we want to blame?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#45 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#5 Home prices may drop another 25%, Shiller predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#10 Home prices may drop another 25%, Shiller predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#33 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#40 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#45 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 21 Jul, 2011 Subject: Greed, Excess and America's Gaping Class Divide Blog: Facebookre:
The Crash Of 2008: A Mathematician's View
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081208203915.htm
The crash of 2008: A mathematician's view
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-12/w-tco120808.php
from above:
Markets need regulation to stay stable. We have had thirty years of
financial deregulation. Now we are seeing chickens coming home to
roost. This is the key argument of Professor Nick Bingham, a
mathematician at Imperial College London, in an article published today
in Significance, the magazine of the Royal Statistical Society.
There is no such thing as laying off risk if no one is able to insure
it. Big new risks were taken in extending mortgages to far more people
than could handle them, in the search for new markets and new
profits. Attempts to insure these by securitisation -- aptly described
in this case as putting good and bad risks into a blender and selling
off the results to whoever would buy them -- gave us toxic debt, in vast
quantities.
... snip ...
misc. past posts mentioning above:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#58 Blinkenlights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#64 Is This a Different Kind of Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#67 What is securitization and why are people wary of it ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#5 Greed - If greed was the cause of the global meltdown then why does the biz community appoint those who so easily succumb to its temptations?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#9 Blind-sided, again. Why?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#18 What next? from where would the Banks be hit?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#20 Five great technological revolutions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#23 Garbage in, garbage out trampled by Moore's law
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#35 Is American capitalism and greed to blame for our financial troubles in the US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#15 What are the challenges in risk analytics post financial crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#52 The Credit Crunch: Why it happened?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#37 A great article was posted in another BI group: "To H*** with Business Intelligence: 40 Percent of Execs Trust Gut"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#53 Credit & Risk Management ... go Simple ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#54 In your opinion, which facts caused the global crise situation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#80 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#39 'WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GLOBAL MELTDOWN'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#42 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#40 What's your personal confidence level concerning financial market recovery?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#17 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
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