From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Ghost Riders of Baghdad: Soldiers, Civilians, and the Myth of the Surge Date: 13 Oct 2017 Blog: Facebookre:
pg111/loc2179-82:
The backstory to all this is well reported. The Bush administration
appointed hundreds of politically loyal neoconservative bureaucrats to
run postwar Iraq, including the top civilian official—L. Paul
Bremer. Bremer, heavily influenced by Iraqi exiles like Ahmed Chalabi
and supported by Vice President Dick Cheney, implemented a policy of
de-Baathification.
pg111/loc2193-95:
On 16 April 2003, Bremer, against the advice of Colin Powell's State
Department and the Central Intelligence Agency, disbanded the Iraqi
Army. 16 This seemingly simple decision placed a few hundred thousand
unemployed young men back on the street with no effective
reintegration strategy.
pg171/loc3246-49:
All this talk of "what-ifs" and lost Surge opportunities ignores one
salient, if uncomfortable, fact: ISIS is an outgrowth of our own
invasion. Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF—as we gleefully named it) was
more than just an awful euphemism; it spelled catastrophe—and
chaos—for most Iraqis.
... snip ...
related IRAQ posts, WMDs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#wmds
more related
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#team.b
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Allied Radio catalog 1956 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 09:13:55 -0700Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
IPO in March, Crushed Today: PE Firm Pushes another Retailer into
Brick-and-Mortar Meltdown
https://wolfstreet.com/2017/10/12/j-jill-pe-firm-pushes-retailer-into-brick-and-mortar-meltdown/
On March 9, 2017, private equity firm TowerBrook, the owner of women's
clothing retailer J. Jill, dumped half of its stake via an IPO at a
price of $13 a share into the lap of the unsuspecting public, during a
time when brick-and-mortar retailers that are owned by private equity
firms are heading into bankruptcy court, one after the other.
... snip ...
J.Jill (JILL) Alert: Johnson Fistel Announces Investigation of J.Jill,
Inc.; Encourages Investors to Contact the Firm for Additional
Information
http://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/J-Jill-JILL-Alert-Johnson-Fistel-Announces-Investigation-of-J-Jill-Inc-Encourages-Investors-to-Contact-the-Firm-for-Additional-Information-1003903600
private-equity posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: WW II cryptography Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 11:51:32 -0700re:
Burton was graduate of 1st USAF academy class and on fast track to general ... when he says that Boyd ruined his career by challenging to do what was right. He was forced to retire from the USAF for his part in significantly improving the Bradley fighting vehicle ... seriously embarrasing the maker and others in the Pentagon.
The Pentagon Wars
https://www.amazon.com/Pentagon-Wars-Reformers-Challenge-Guard-ebook/dp/B00HXY969W/
The second half of the book deals with the author's attempts to get
frontline equipment tested under combat conditions. For the first time,
readers learn the nasty details of his battle with the army over
line-fire testing of the Bradley Fighting Vehicle'a battle that he
eventually won, leading to the personnel carrier's redesign and the
saving of many lives.
... snip ...
HBO then dramatized as movie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon_Wars
there is little that the military-industrial complex won't do in pursuit
of profit. Gun Seller is novel by Hugh Laurie (TV's "House") ... is
about the subject, measures that the MIC will go to and also mentions
Boyd and OODA-loop
https://www.amazon.com/Gun-Seller-Hugh-Laurie-ebook/dp/B000SEGK0M/
loc4605-11:
The day Alexander Woolf decided to take on the military-industrial
complex was the day everything changed. For him, for his family, for his
business. Things changed quickly, and they changed for good. Roused from
its slumber, the military-industrial complex lifted a great, lazy paw,
and swatted him away, as if he were no more than a human being. They
canceled his existing contracts and withdrew possible future ones. They
bankrupted his suppliers, disrupted his labour force, and investigated
him for tax evasion. They bought his company's stock in a few months and
sold it in a few hours, and when that didn't do the trick, they accused
him of trading in narcotics. They even had him thrown out of the St
Regis, for not replacing a fairway divot.
... snip ...
MIC(C) past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
Has military industrial complex wanting the Iraq2 Invasion so badly
corporate reps were telling former soviet block countries that if they
voted for the invasion in the UN, they would get NATO membership and
(directed appropriation) USAID (that could only be spent on modern US
arms). From law of unintended consequences ... in the invasion, they
were told to bypass ammo dumps looking for WMDs. When they got around to
going back, a million metric tons had evaporated. Later started seeing
large artillery shell IEDs ... even taking out Abrams
https://www.amazon.com/Prophets-War-Lockheed-Military-Industrial-ebook/dp/B0047T86BA/
The original Iraq2 invasion justification was that Iraq supported Al
Qaeda and it would only cost $50B. It then changed to WMDs. US rep to
UN (cousin of white house chief of staff Card) dealing with Iraqis was
given proof that the WMDs (dating back to US in the Iran/Iraq war) had
been decommissioned. The US UN rep provided the information to White
House and was then locked up in military hospital. An account was
published in 2010, including about the decommissioned WMDs, four years
before the information was declassified.
https://www.amazon.com/EXTREME-PREJUDICE-Terrifying-Story-Patriot-ebook/dp/B004HYHBK2/
The decommissioned WMDs (tracing back to US & Iran/Iraq war) were found
early in the invasion, but the information was kept classified until
fall of 2014
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html
WMD posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#wmds
Consistent with Spinney's (another Boyd' acolyte) "perpetual war"
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com/p/domestic-roots-of-perpetual-war.html
and The Pentagon Labyrinth: 10 Short Essays to Help You Through It
(free Kindle at Amazon)
https://www.amazon.com/Pentagon-Labyrinth-Short-Essays-Through-ebook/dp/B014JOVEOS/
as well as "War is a Racket"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket
also references "perpetual war"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_war
perpetual war posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
a couple books references the 16yrs and counting activities in Iraq and Afghanistan ... WMDs fabricated, surge and other activities significantly misrepresented, and ongoing trillions being dumped into the military-industrial complex
Ghost Riders of Baghdad: Soldiers, Civilians, and the Myth of the Surge
https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Riders-Baghdad-Soldiers-Civilians-ebook/dp/B014PWVUAC/
Battle for Baqubah: Killing Our Way Out
https://www.amazon.com/Battle-Baqubah-1SG-Robert-Colella/dp/1469791064/
recent posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#68 Ghost Riders of Baghdad: Soldiers, Civilians, and the Myth of the Surge
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#0 Ghost Riders of Baghdad: Soldiers, Civilians, and the Myth of the Surge
Boyd posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Somewhat Interesting Mainframe Article Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 15 Oct 2017 11:27:37 -0700billwilkie@HOTMAIL.COM (Bill Wilkie) writes:
mid-80s, top IBM executives were predicting that corporate revenue would double mostly based on mainframe business ... and there was massive internal bldg program to double mainframe manufacturing capacity.
however, a couple years later, a senior disk engineer got a talk
scheduled at the internal, world-wide communication group conference
supposedly on 3174 performance, but opened the talk with statement that
the communication group was going to be responsible for the demise of
the disk division. The issue was that the communication group had
stranglehold on datacenter with their corporate strategic responsibility
for everything that crossed the datacenter walls and were fiercely
fighting distributed computing and client/server trying to preserve
their dumb terminal paradigm and install base. The disk division was
seeing data fleeing the datacenter to more distributed computing
friendly platforms with drop in disk sales. They had come up with
several solutions which were constantly vetoed by the communication
group.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal
The communication group stranglehold on the datacenter not only was affecting disk sales but everything mainframe and a few short years later the company goes into the red.
By the mid-90s, most of the easier applications had fled mainframes (driving IBM into the red) and the major remaining customer was the financial industry (accounting for significant percentage of all new mainframe sales). However, the financial industry was facing significant bottleneck with decades old legacy cobol financial software that did settlement in the overnight batch window ... and globalization (shortening the window) and business increases (increasing workload) was putting extreme strain on the overnight batch window.
Late 90s, there was a period where the financial industry spends billions of dollars on new software to support parallized straight through processing (real-time settlement with every transaction), planning on using large numbers of killer micros. However there were using some industry standard parallelization libraries ... and they continued down the path even when repeatedly told (including by me) the libraries introduced factor of 100 times overhead (compared to mainframe batch cobol). It wasn't until they actually had some major large pilots go down in flames that they pulled back (100 times overhead totally swamped anticipated throughput increases from large numbers of parallelized killer micros).
A decade later, I was involved in effort that approached it from a different standpoint. It supported high level business rules that generated fine-grain, parallelizable SQL statements, and rather than directly implementing parallelization ... it relied on the enormous work that all the RDBMS vendors (including IBM) put into scalable cluster parallelized throughput. Prototype pilots were implemented for different financial sectors that easily supported several times their current peak workloads on non-mainframe cluster RDBMS platforms. This was presented to several financial industry groups and initially had high acceptance ... but then hit brick wall. They eventually said that the top executives still bore significant scars from the failed efforts in the late 90s and it would be a very long time before it would be tried again.
Note that SQL/RDBMS features are common across mainframe and non-mainframe platforms ... all platforms use industry standard fixed-block disks, non-mainframes getting slightly better throughput than mainframe doing CKD simulation on same industry standard disks (real CKD disks haven't been made for decades). Native fibre-channel having significantly higher native throughput than mainframe FICON protocol running over the same fibre-channel.
The most recent published mainframe peak I/O throughput that I've found is z196 getting 2M IOPS using 104 FICON. About the same time there was fibre channel announced for E5-2600V1 blade claiming over million IOPS (for single fibre-channel, two such fibre-channel having higher native throughput than 104 FICON running over 104 fibre-channel).
max configured z196->z14 went from 80 @625MIPS for 50BIPS to 170 @882MIPS for 150BIPS (three times aggregate processing with more than double the number of slightly faster processors).
In the same time frame, two chip e5-2600V1 blade at 530BIPS went to two chip e5-2600v5 at about 4-5 times the aggregate BIPS rate (based on benchmark iterations ratio to iterations run on 370/158 assumed to be 1MIPS processor).
trivia: in 1988 I was asked to help LLNL (LL national lab) help
standardize some serial stuff they were working with, which quickly
becomes fibre-channel standard ... some past FICON & fibre-channel posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon
other triva: in 1980, I was asked to do channel-extender support for
STL (now SVL) that was moving 300 people from IMS group to offsite
bldg. This included doing lot of the channel protocol stuff at the
remote site (significantly reducing the significant channel protocol
latency). This is included in the 1988 fibre-channel stuff but not
leveraged in FICON. Something similar shows up somewhat in zHPF/TCH
(30yrs later) ... but only claims 30% throughput improvement over
standard FICON.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#channel.extender
recent batch settlement &/or straight through processing:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#25 1976 vs. 2016?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#48 Windows 10 forceful update?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#84 The mainframe is dead. Long live the mainframe!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#23 How to Fix IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#72 Why Can't You Buy z Mainframe Services from Amazon Cloud Services?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#82 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#58 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#63 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#39 The Pentagon still uses computer software from 1958 to manage its contracts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#43 The Pentagon still uses computer software from 1958 to manage its contracts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#11 The Mainframe vs. the Server Farm: A Comparison
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#32 OFF TOPIC: University of California, Irvine, revokes 500 admissions
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama? Date: 15 Oct 2017 Blog: FacebookWho Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama?
2002, congress allows fiscal responsibility act to expire (spending couldn't exceed tax revenue, on its way to eliminating all federal debt). 2010 CBO report was in the interim (2003 thru 2009), tax revenue was cut $6T and spending increase $6T for $12T gap compared to fiscal responsible budget (1st time taxes were cut to not pay for two wars). By 2005, the U.S. Comptroller General was including in speeches that nobody in congress was capable of middle school arithmetic (for what they were doing to the budget). Since then, taxes haven't been restored, so debt continues to increase.
Fiscal Responsibility Act posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act
US Comptroller General posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#comptroller.general
An interesting trivia, it was the republican congress in the 90s primarily responsible for the Fiscal Responsibility Act ... and fiscal responsible budget ... and then after the turn of the century, it was a totally different republican congress primarily responsible for letting the Fiscal Responsibility Act lapse, going crazy selling tax loopholes to special interest and skyrocketing spending.
In addition to lots of complaints by Comptroller General about the turn of the century congress had lost their (budget) mind ... 2008 there was (CBS) TV broadcast of roundtable at annual economist conference on the subject of congress become the most corrupt institution on earth ... primarily for the selling of tax loopholes. Primary focus was on "flat tax" as countermeasure to the rampant corruption (selling tax loopholes). Semi-joke was that major entity lobbying against it was the country of Ireland; one of the new loopholes was being able to move US profits to offshore tax haven ... the country of Ireland was a major beneficiary .... Irish "shoebox" corporations, i.e. Irish corporations that consisted of little more than shoebox containing incorporation papers ... but were booking hundreds of billions in US (and other country) profits.
Recent news that EU has directed Ireland to go back and collect tens
of billions in taxes from US technology corporations incorporated in
Ireland (on their EU profits that were being booked in
Ireland). example" The EU is taking Ireland to court over Apple tax
deal worth $15.2B
https://www.fastcompany.com/40476880/the-eu-is-taking-ireland-to-court-over-apple-tax-deal-worth-15-2-billion
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: The drug industry's triumph over the DEA Date: 15 Oct 2017 Blog: FacebookThe drug industry's triumph over the DEA
recent posts mentioning pharma &/or opioids
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#94 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#17 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#27 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#100 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#81 No Internet. No Microsoft Windows. No iPods. This Is What Tech Was Like In 1984
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#27 LEO
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#67 LEO
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#70 LEO
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#56 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#15 How Veterans Are Losing the War at Home
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#51 endless medical arguments, Disregard post (another screwup)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#69 Feds Debt
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#84 "Worse Than Big Tobacco": How Big Pharma Fuels the Opioid Epidemic
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: The Changing Face of War: Combat from the Marne to Iraq Date: 16 Oct 2017 Blog: FacebookThe Changing Face of War: Combat from the Marne to Iraq
loc4480-85:
Perhaps President Bush and his principal advisers, Vice President Dick
Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, and the latter's deputy
Paul Wolfowitz really believed Saddam Hussein was involved in global
terrorism—even though the CIA Terrorism Report for 2000 had said he
was not, and even though the war itself suggested that he had no links
to al-Qaeda and its allies."6 Perhaps they really believed he
possessed weapons of mass destruction; although, given the crushing
defeat he had suffered in 1991, how they could have thought those
weapons constituted a danger to any other country is hard to
understand.
loc4485-86:
Perhaps they felt that, with US forces leaving Saudi Arabia and that
country seemingly lurching toward civil war, the Middle East was
becoming destabilized and the US needed to dominate another major
oil-producing country in its stead.
... snip ...
Original US justification for 2003 invasion was that Iraq supported Al
Qaeda and it would only cost $50B. It then changed to WMDs. US rep to
UN (cousin of white house chief of staff Card) dealing with Iraqis was
given proof that the WMDs (dating back to US in the Iran/Iraq war) had
been decommissioned. The US UN rep provided the information to White
House and was then locked up in military hospital. An account was
published in 2010, including about the decommissioned WMDs, four years
before the information was declassified.
https://www.amazon.com/EXTREME-PREJUDICE-Terrifying-Story-Patriot-ebook/dp/B004HYHBK2/
The decommissioned WMDs (tracing back to US) were found early in the
invasion, but the information was kept classified until fall of 2014.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html
The military-industrial-complex wanted Iraq2 invasion so badly that
corporate reps were telling former eastern block countries that if
they voted for IRAQ2 invasion in the UN, they would get membership in
NATO and (directed appropriation) USAID (that could *ONLY* be spent on
purchase of US arms).
https://www.amazon.com/Prophets-War-Lockheed-Military-Industrial-ebook/dp/B0047T86BA/
going back even early CIA Director Colby wouldn't agree with "Team B"
analysis of Soviet military justifying huge US DOD budget
increase. White House Chief of Staff Rumsfeld then gets Colby replaced
with Bush that would go along with "Team B"; Rumsfeld becomes SECDEF
and his assistant Cheney becomes WH Chief of Staff. Later Rumsfeld and
VP Bush are helping Saddam with weapons in the Iran/Iraq war,
including WMDs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran-Iraq_war
Then Bush is president and Cheney is SECDEF when sat. photo analyst
notifies them is Saddam is marshaling forces for invasion of
Kuwait. WH says that Saddam has told them he would do no such
thing. Then the sat photo analyst notifies WH that Saddam is
marshaling forces to invade Saudi Arabia. Then the WH has to choose
between Iraq and Saudis.
https://www.amazon.com/Long-Strange-Journey-Intelligence-ebook/dp/B004NNV5H2/
Later Bush2 is president, Cheney is VP, Rumsfeld is SECDEF (again),
and former Team B member is claimed to be primary architect of Iraq
strategy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wolfowitz
MIC(C) past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
related IRAQ posts, WMDs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#wmds
more related
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#team.b
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Allied Radio catalog 1956 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 20:27:06 -0700re:
some more from today ....
Asset-Stripping by Private Equity Firms Is Booming
https://wolfstreet.com/2017/10/16/whats-booming-asset-stripping-by-private-equity-firms/
Most of the brick-and-mortar retailers that have filed for bankruptcy
protection to be restructured or liquidated over the past two years have
been owned by private equity firms - including the most recent major
casualty, Toys 'R's. Part of how PE firms make money is by stripping
capital out of their portfolio companies via special dividends funded by
"leveraged loans" - more on those in a moment - leaving these companies
in a very precarious condition
... snip ...
also over half of all corporate defaults are by companies put thru the PE wringer. one thing I've periodically wondered why all these loan defaults don't affect the credit-rating of the PE firms that took them out.
private-equity posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: The Mathematics of Inequality Date: 18 Oct 2017 Blog: FacebookThe Mathematics of Inequality; Bruce Boghosian runs the numbers and shows that without redistribution of wealth, the rich get richer and everyone else gets poorer
Another Economics Nobel debunking rational actors assumption: Nobel in
Economics Is Awarded to Richard Thaler
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/09/business/nobel-economics-richard-thaler.html
Nobel Laureate Richard Thaler: "We Seem To Be Living In The Riskiest
Market Of Our Lives"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-10/nobel-laureate-richard-thaler-we-seem-be-living-riskiest-market-our-lives
Nobel Economist Thaler Says He's Nervous About Stock Market
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-10/nobel-economist-thaler-says-he-s-nervous-about-stock-market
Kahneman (psychologist) 2002 Economics Nobel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Kahneman
His 1961 dissertation, advised by Susan Ervin, examined relations
between adjectives in the semantic differential and "allowed me to
engage in two of my favorite pursuits: the analysis of complex
correlational structures and FORTRAN programming," as he would later
recall.[4]
... snip ...
here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Kahneman#Judgment_and_decision-making
works with Richard Thaler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Kahneman#Behavioral_economics
there were articles in the wake of economic mess crash about wallstreet had campaign of tying up prominent economists purposefully for obfuscation and misdirection ... misc ...
Economists and the Powerful: Convenient Theories, Distorted Facts,
Ample Rewards
https://www.amazon.com/Economists-Powerful-Convenient-Distorted-Economics-ebook/dp/B01B4X4KOS/
There were also articles trying to blame the economic mess on the risk managers. However, the risk managers said that they were forced by business people to fiddle the inputs until they got the desired result (GIGO) ... and called for giving risk managers more protection from business people influence.
July2007, Subprime = Triple-A ratings? or 'How to Lie with Statistics'
(gone 404 but lives on at wayback machine)
https://web.archive.org/web/20071111031315/http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/07/25/subprime-triple-a-ratings-or-how-to-lie-with-statistics/
testimony in the Oct2008 congressional hearings into the role that the rating agencies played, said that the rating agencies were selling Triple-A ratings for (toxic) CDOs that they knew weren't worth Triple-A (significantly contributing to being able to do over $27T ... trillion! ... 2001-2008, also enabling selling to operations restricted to only dealing in "safe" investments, including large pension funds). During the hearings a TV commentator made snide remark about the FEDs would never prosecute the rating agencies.
inequality posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#inequality
"economic mess" posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#economic.mess
(Triple-A rated) toxic CDOs posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama? Date: 18 Oct 2017 Blog: Facebook
it talks about spending increase ... not debt. 2010 CBO report was that after fiscal responsibility was let to lapse in 2002 (on track to eliminating all federal debt), taxes were cut $6T and spending increased $6T for $12T budget gap compared to fiscal responsibility budget. Next administration almost eliminated further budget increases .... but taxes weren't restored ... so debt continued to increase .... the nearly $2T/yr funding gap ... $1T/yr cut in taxes and $1T/yr increase in spending ... still continued ... but the debt increase rate had nearly stopped. For nearly the whole period this century the same party has held the house responsible for house budget/spending committee and tax committee.
To return to fiscal responsibility budget level ... would require increasing taxes by trillion dollars/yr and decreasing spending by trillion dollars/yr ... plus ... what happened last decade with lapse in fiscal responsibility act and tax cuts & spending gone crazy has resulted in debt ballooning to $20T ... with $400B in interest on that debt. To undo that damage requires increasing taxes by nearly another $1.5T (debt draw down over next 20yrs). Total increase in taxes by $2.5T per year and $1T per year cut in spending ... to undo damage done from 2002 letting the fiscal responsibility act lapse. Alternatively leave spending at the current level (with no increase) but increase taxes by $3.5T (instead of $2.5T)
Fiscal Responsibility Act posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act
US Comptroller General posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#comptroller.general
Surplus (tax revenue in excess of spending) used to decrease debt while deficit (spending in excess of tax revenue) increases debt. Even if year to year shows no spending increase or even spending decrease ... it can still show deficit when there has been enormous tax cut (as happened after fiscal responsibility act was allowed to lapse in 2002 which was on its way to eliminating all federal debt). The level of debt has exploded since those tax cuts after 2002 ($20T) ... and the interest on that debt is becoming major budget item. The interest on the debt almost accounts for the 2016 deficit (spending in excess of revenue).
There are currently two different ways of referring to the debt, one is the total debt of $20T (and total interest) ... and the other is the public debt $14T (and interest, owned to public, non-gov entities). The difference is amount owed to government funds like the Social Security Trust Fund. There is always the suspicion that when they are constantly referring to "public debt" they are spinning things to not only welsh on the interest owned the trust fund ... but even wipe out that debt all together (SS trust fund reset to zero).
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Plutocracy Rising repost from Oct 2012 Date: 22 Oct 2017 Blog: FacebookPlutocracy Rising repost from Oct 2012
One of the comments last night was that over 1000 were sent to jail for the S&L crisis and nobody has gone to jail this time. There was a 2008 Wharton article estimating 1000 responsible for majority of the economic mess last decade and it would go a long way to fixing the situation if the gov. could figure out how they could loose their positions.
wharton article sometimes behind registration wall
http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/coming-soon-securitization-with-a-new-improved-and-perhaps-safer-face/
original wharton article at wayback machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20080606084328/http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article.cfm?articleid=1933
from above:
He suggests that the government tell banks that if they want to
maintain their federal insurance, they should fire their CEO by the
end of the day, and the government will pay the CEO $10 million in
severance. Ousting the former CEOs gives the new bank CEOs an
incentive to write down all the bad assets immediately, so that any
improvement will make them look good going forward. That would speed
the painful process of gradual price declines.
...
Linneman figures that 1,000 CEOs are accountable for about 80% of the
current lending mess. If the government were to spend $10 billion to
restore liquidity to the market in nine months with only 1,000 people
losing their jobs, it would be the best investment it could make to
restore the economy. "I'm only half-kidding," he quips.
... snip ...
.... note however, ye2008, just the four largest TBTF were still carrying $5.2T in offbook toxic assets. Late summer 2008, some $60B in these toxic assets had been sold for 22 cents on the dollar. If their offbook toxic assets had been written down, they would have declared insolvent and forced to be liquidated. Originally congress was convinced to pass TARP for the purchase of these offbook toxic assets, but with only $700B appropriated, it would barely begin to address the problem. TARP was then used for other purposes (which may have been the intention all along) and the Federal Reserve was left to deal with the problem.
"economic mess" posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#economic.mess
Too Big To Fail posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
(Triple-A rated) toxic CDOs posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
inequality posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#inequality
Former CIA director and then VP repeatedly claimed that he knew
nothing about
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_affair
because he was fulltime administration point person deregulating
financial industry ... creating S&L crisis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
along with other members of his family
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan
and another
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0D81E3BF937A25753C1A966958260
another family member presides over the economic mess 70 times larger than the S&L crisis. S&L crisis had 30,000 criminal referrals and 1000 criminal convictions with jailtime, proportionally the economic mess should have 2.1M criminal referrals and 70,000 criminal convictions.
S&L crisis post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#s&l.crisis
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The Windows 95 chime was created on a Mac Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 11:57:26 -0700Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> writes:
In early 80s, I was exchanging email with one of the kids at UCB ...
he said that the vax/tty full-duplex character echo delay was
frequently 30seconds or more. (allowed type ahead, but takes some
getting use to, character typed echo delay at 30+ seconds) Email
mentioning SJR getting CSNET "phonenet" gateway
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/internet.htm#email821022
In the 60s, I walso wanted to have single dialup number and single
pool of ports for all terminals ("hunt group"). However, while
standard mianframe terminal controller supported dynamically changing
port/line scanner ... each port/line had line-speed (baud rate)
hardwired (and while 1052/2741 terminals had same speed, it was
different from TTY ... 134.5 versus for 110) ... so single hunt group
wouldn't work. hunt group
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_hunting
This helped motivate university to start clone controller project,
doing channel interface hardware board for Interdata/3 programmed to
simulate mainframe terminal controller ... but also dynamically
determining terminal baud rate (rather than having it
hardwired). Interdata starts marketing this commercially and four of
us get written for (some part of) clone controller business. This is
then enhanced with Interdata/4 for the channel interface with cluster
of Interdata/3s for port/line scanners. PE acquires Interdata and
continues to market the boxes under PE logo (I ran into one around the
turn of the century in large datacenter handling majority of east
coast dialup point-of-sale terminals)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#360pcm
Note the Univ of Michigan did something similar for their 360/67
... but using PDP8
https://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/gallery/gallery7.html
https://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/gallery/gallery8.html
1052 & 2741 used selectric mechanism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Selectric_typewriter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Selectric_typewriter#Use_as_a_computer_terminal
Teletype 33
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teletype_Model_33
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: The Warning Date: 22 Oct 2017 Blog: FacebookThe Warning
Born was fairly quickly replaced by Gramm's wife while he got legislation passed to block CDS regulation ... billed as favor to Enron. Afterwards she resigns and joins Enron board and member of audit committee.
No2 on times list of those responsible for the economic mess
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html
Gramm and the 'Enron Loophole'
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/business/17grammside.html
Enron was a major contributor to Mr. Gramm's political campaigns, and
Mr. Gramm's wife, Wendy, served on the Enron board, which she joined
after stepping down as chairwoman of the Commodity Futures Trading
Commission.
... snip ...
Phil Gramm's Enron Favor .. gone 404 but lives on at wayback machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20080711114839/http://www.villagevoice.com/2002-01-15/news/phil-gramm-s-enron-favor/
A few days after she got the ball rolling on the exemption, Wendy
Gramm resigned from the commission. Enron soon appointed her to its
board of directors, where she served on the audit committee, which
oversees the inner financial workings of the corporation. For this,
the company paid her between $915,000 and $1.85 million in stocks and
dividends, as much as $50,000 in annual salary, and $176,000 in
attendance fees
... snip ...
recent posts mentioning Wendy Gramm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#8 Congress just obliterated Obama-era rules preventing ISPs from selling your browsing history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#41 [CM] cheap money, was What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#85 How can we stop algorithms telling lies?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#13 What the Enron E-mails Say About Us
Note: that while the senator was behind GLBA and repeal of Glass-Steagall, he gets his position on the Time's list, not so much for enabling Too Big To Fail (Too Big To Prosecute and Too Big to Jail), but for blocking CDS regulation.
In 1999, I was asked to help try to prevent the economic mess. Securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L Crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages (poster child was office bldgs in Texas that turned out to be empty lots). I was to improve the integrity of securitized mortgage supporting documents. Then they find that they can pay the rating agencies for triple-A (when rating agencies knew they weren't worth tripl-A, from Oct2008 congressional hearings). Triple-A trumps supporting documents and they can start doing no-documentation, liar loans which then can sell off almost as quickly as they are made (also eliminating any need to care about borrower's qualifications or loan quality), largely enabling doing over $27T 2001-2008 (including selling to operations restricted to only dealing in safe investments like large pension funds).
Then they find they can start doing securitized mortgages designed to fail, pay for triple-A, sell to their customers and then take out (unregulated) CDS gambling bets that they would fail (now they cared about borrower's qualifications, but not in the way you might think).
... note AIG was largest holder of CDS gambling bets and negotiating to pay off at 50cents on the dollar when the SECTREAS steps in and has them sign document that they can't sue those making the bets and to take TARP funds to pay off at face value. The largest recipient of TARP funds is AIG and the largest recipient of face value payoffs is the firm formally headed by the SECTREAS.
"economic mess" posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#economic.mess
Too Big To Fail posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
(Triple-A rated) toxic CDOs posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
inequality posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#inequality
S&L crisis posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#s&l.crisis
Pecora Hearings and/or Glass-Steagall posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
past posts specifically mentioning "The Warning":
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#84 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#82 Oldest Instruction Set still in daily use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#64 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#30 Regulators seek to plug derivatives data gaps
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#79 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#62 Civilization, doomed?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Plutocracy Rising repost from Oct 2012 Date: 22 Oct 2017 Blog: Facebookre:
The spring 2008 wharton document goes into some detail about what went on.
Another detailed article, from late Oct2008, "Evil Wall Street Exports
Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt", original URL
www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c
The bundling of consumer loans and home mortgages into packages of
securities -- a process known as securitization -- was the biggest
U.S. export business of the 21st century. More than $27 trillion of
these securities have been sold since 2001, according to the
Securities Industry Financial Markets Association, an industry trade
group. That's almost twice last year's U.S. gross domestic product of
$13.8 trillion
... snip ...
article gone behind paywall
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-27/evil-wall-street-exports-boomed-with-fools-born-to-buy-debt
and is not at wayback machine ... but sometimes full text can be found
with web search of the title ... excerpt here
https://www.prisonplanet.com/evil-wall-street-exports-boomed-with-fools-born-to-buy-debt.html
long reference discussion
http://archives.cjr.org/the_audit/audit_roundup_8.php
"economic mess" posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#economic.mess
(Triple-A rated) toxic CDOs posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The Windows 95 chime was created on a Mac Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 11:02:56 -0700jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
late 60s, switching back and forth between tty33 and 2741 ... besides other things, tty33 took more finger strength. some people that could touch type on 2741 would be two finger typing on 33 because they had to use hand force to depress the keys.
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Blockchain on Mainframe ? Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 24 Oct 2017 11:08:41 -0700copied from social media IBM group
Blockchain mining using GPU (graphics) chips that have huge number of
internal processors
https://hothardware.com/news/amd-radeon-rx-vega-mining-block-chain-ethereum
and xeon crypto (xeon are processor chips used in e5-2600 and other
blades) ... benchmark e5-2600v4 against xeon gold (rebranded e5-2600v5)
https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-xeon-scalable-processor-cryptographic-performance
e5-2600v5 (xeon GOLD) blade is somewhere 10-20 times the BIPS (TIPS) rating of max configured z14 (@150BIPS).
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: IBM open sources it's JVM and JIT code Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 24 Oct 2017 12:39:28 -0700tony@HARMINC.NET (Tony Harminc) writes:
23june1969 unbundling announcement started to charge for software &
services ... but managed to make the case that kernel software would
still be free.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle
when FS imploded there was mad rush to get products back into the 370
pipeline. old IBM reference:
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm
at the same time (because of the rise of clone processors) there was decision to transition to charging for kernel software (my resource manager was initial guinea pig). This continued into the early 80s ... then starts the OCO-wars. One of the motivations for OCO-wars was (again) the clone processor competition ... but another motivation was that customers weren't migrating off MVS to MVS/XA according to plan. Part of the blame was placed on customers that had source and made local modifications ... which weren't easily migrated from MVS to MVS/XA. Eliminating source would minimize customers making local modifications and enhance IBM control of their customer base.
Complicating things was introduction of clone "hypervisor" (subset of virtual machines in hardware) which allowed concurrent operation of MVS & MVS/XA much more efficiently than traditional virtual machine. IBM was eventually able to respond with PR/SM & LPARS for 3090 (but by that time some amount of the MVS->MVS/XA had passed).
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC: Leave it to Beaver--sneakers (early 1960s lifestyle) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 17:18:16 -0700hancock4 writes:
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The Windows 95 chime was created on a Mac Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 15:22:42 -0700hancock4 writes:
However, before it shipped, IBM announced IBM/PC ... and users could start doing similar things using IBM/PC ... and then using terminal emulation to interact with mainframe ... and I'm not absolutely positive but they may never did ship any boxes.
trivia ... the former LSG VLSI guy then became VP of software development at MIPS ... and then when SGI bought MIPS, he went to SUN and ran the business group that included JAVA.
Intro/base IBM/PC with terminal emulation was only slightly more than 3270. Large companies that already justified hundred/thousands of 3270 ... could switch orders to IBM/PC with little additional justification .... and get single desktop footprint that did mainframe 3270 along with some local computing.
A major motivation for introduction of token-ring ... was to replace 3270 coax for IBM/PC terminal emulations. mid-80s some large 3270 shops were starting to exceed bldg. floor loading limits with all the 3270 coax cable. Could run single token-ring CAT4 ... to departmental MAU ... which then had token-ring CAT4 to individual stations (CAT4 cable was lighter than coax .... and also eliminated needing a cable from the machine room to each individual terminal ... just use single CAT4 to local wiring closet with individual station CAT4 from there).
I also remember some comment that it frequently cost $1000 or more to run new coax from machine room to a new 3270 terminal (aka actual 3270 terminal price was increasing becoming smaller part of the total cost).
past posts mentioning metaware TWS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#19 Beyond 8+3
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004d.html#71 What terminology reflects the "first" computer language ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004f.html#42 Infiniband - practicalities for small clusters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#0 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#1 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#14 Newbie question on table design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#77 CLIs and GUIs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#36 Old-school programming techniques you probably don't miss
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#11 Microprocessors with Definable MIcrocode
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#32 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#21 The simplest High Level Language
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#52 [Poll] Computing favorities
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#62 Which Books Can You Recommend For Learning Computer Programming?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#94 Jean Sammet, Co-Designer of a Pioneering Computer Language, Dies at 89
past posts mentioning bldg/floor load limit
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003m.html#45 MAD Programming Language
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#3 Two subjects: 64-bit OS2/eCs, Innotek Products
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#66 sizeof() was: The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#6 Memory Instrumentation - was "largest parallel sysplex around?"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#46 When did "client server" become part of the language?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#49 Mainframe Hall of Fame: 17 New Members Added
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#56 Dualcase vs monocase. Was: Article for the boss
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#4 IBM commitment to academia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#5 Voyager 1 just left the solar system using less computing powerthan your iP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#73 Mannix "computer in a briefcase"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#15 The complete history of the IBM PC, part two: The DOS empire strikes; The real victor was Microsoft, which built an empire on the back of a shadily acquired MS-DOS
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: WW II cryptography Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 11:03:35 -0700When Government Wanted To Prosecute Tribune Reporter For Leak -- But Feared Public Just Wouldn't Get It
past posts in thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#75 WW II cryptography
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#77 WW II cryptography
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#79 WW II cryptography
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#80 WW II cryptography
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#81 WW II cryptography
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#85 WW II cryptography
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#86 WW II cryptography
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#87 WW II cryptography
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#88 WW II cryptography
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#2 WW II cryptography
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: WW II cryptography Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 11:08:32 -0700Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
and ...
Assistant Attorney General Wendell Berge further concluded on July 27,
"I do not think this is a case that the public would ever
understand. Technical explanation is necessary to spell out the
violation, consequently the whole case would become engulfed in
questions of freedom of the press, censorship, etc. I do not think we
could succeed in making our position clearly enough understood to
accomplish any real public benefit."
... snip ...
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Norden bombsight Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 16:52:34 -0700Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> writes:
John Foster Dulles was major force behind rebuilding German military and industry from 20s up through early 40s ... when US 1943 strategic bombing program needed German targets and coordinates, they got them from wallstreet.
Example of Norden bombsight ... European Campaign,
https://ssi.armywarcollege.edu/2011/pubs/the-european-campaign-its-origins-and-conduct/
loc2582-85:
The bomber preparation of Omaha Beach was a total failure, and German
defenses on Omaha Beach were intact as American troops came ashore. At
Utah Beach, the bombers were a little more effective because the IXth
Bomber Command was using B-26 medium bombers. Wisely, in preparation for
supporting the invasion, maintenance crews removed Norden bombsights
from the bombers and installed the more effective low-level altitude
sights.
... snip ...
towards the end, strategic bombing could show results when McNamara was LeMay's staff planning fire bombing of German and Japanese cities (harder to miss whole city with fire bomb ... something was going to catch fire).
MIC(C) past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
recent posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#3 Dunkirk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#38 Imperial Hubris
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#22 Ironic old "fortune"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#69 The knives are out for Trump's national security adviser H.R. McMaster
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#61 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#77 Early use of word "computer", 1944
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#53 Dunkirk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#99 The Real Reason You Should See Dunkirk: Hitler Lost World War II There
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#3 Dunkirk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#34 Disregard post (another screwup; absolutely nothing to do with computers whatsoever!)
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: WW II cryptography Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 18:59:44 -0700Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
above points to
grand jury testimony
http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//dc.html?doc=4111563-Document-39-Grand-Jury-Testimony-of-Stanley
which points to related documents; Lessons On Sources And Methods From
The Battle Of Midway, 1942, which also lists 40 additional documents
http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/intelligence/2017-10-25/secrecy-leaks-when-us-government-prosecuted-chicago-tribune
and tribune article
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-tribune-espionage-act-book-web-post-out-20171024-story.html
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: How to Stuff a Wild Duck Date: 28 Oct 2017 Blog: FacebookHow to Stuff a Wild Duck
from ibm jargon:
wild duck - n. A creative technical person who does unconventional
things, or at least does things in an unconventional way. Implies
respect, and an acknowledgment that many of that person's ideas turn
out to be valuable. It is said that IBM does not mind having a few
wild ducks around - so long as they fly in formation. This term was
created by T._J._Watson Jr., who told a story (by the philosopher
Kirkegaard) about a flock of wild ducks that landed near a farm. Some
got fed by the farmer and stayed, and either died of obesity or got
eaten. The truly wild ones flew away - and survived.
... snip ...
IBM Centennial Film: Wild Ducks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbGcJiaUC-M
This is about wild duck customers .... seems like all references to wild duck employees has been totally obliterated. ... although after the failure of FS ... the (wild duck "employees") reference changes to "as long as they fly in formation".
Ferguson & Morris, "Computer Wars: The Post-IBM World", Time Books
(FS reference)
... and perhaps most damaging, the old culture under Watson Snr and Jr
of free and vigorous debate was replaced with sycophancy and
make no waves under Opel and Akers. It's claimed that thereafter,
IBM lived in the shadow of defeat
and ...
But because of the heavy investment of face by the top management,
F/S took years to kill, although its wrongheadedness was obvious from
the very outset. "For the first time, during F/S, outspoken criticism
became politically dangerous," recalls a former top
executive.reference to the effect of F/S failure had on corporate
culture,
... snip ...
During the FS period, internal 370 projects were being shutdown (which is credited with giving clone processor makers market foothold) since FS was completely different from 370 and was going to complete replace it. During this period I continued to work on 370 stuff and even would periodically ridicule the FS activities (which wasn't exactly career enhancing activity). In the late 70s and early 80s, I was blamed for online computer conferencing (precursor to social media) on the internal network (larger than arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until sometime mid-80s). Folklore is that when corporate executive committee was told about online computer conferencing (and the internal network), 5of6 wanted to fire me.
Future System posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
Online Computer Congerencing posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#cmc
Date: 84/04/05 11:43:23
To: wheeler
I've been asked to talk to a freelance writer who is ghosting an
article for REDACTED (corporate executive) to be published in the
Harvard Business Review. The subject of the article is something
about "fostering creativity in large corporations"; will know more
after I've talked to him. I'd appreciate any comments/thoughts on
what ought to be said, not said, or emphasized, and especially any
specific experiences you think may be relevant and helpful...
... snip ... top of post, old email index
Date: 84/04/05 18:35:38
To: wheeler
I now know a bit more. The corporate communications people basically
outlined the article, and it is subtitled something like "6 steps to
creativity".
The 6 points are:
1. Cultivate/encourage the wild duck
2. Encourage creative restlessness --
3. Require continuing education
4. Give serendipity a chance
5. Manage failure well
6. Think the unthinkable
Such as doing business in "different" ways, e.g., IBUs...
... snip ... top of post, old email index
somewhat related:
Management Briefing
Number 1-72: January 18,1972
ZZ04-1312
TO ALL IBM MANAGERS:
Once again, I'm writing you a Management Briefing on the subject of
bureaucracy. Evidently the earlier ones haven't worked. So this time
I'm taking a further step: I'm going directly to the individual
employees in the company. You will be reading this poster and my
comment on it in the forthcoming issue of THINK magazine. But I wanted
each one of you to have an advance copy because rooting out
bureaucracy rests principally with the way each of us runs his own
shop.
We've got to make a dent in this problem. By the time the THINK piece
comes out, I want the correction process already to have begun. And
that job starts with you and with me.
Vin Learson
... and
+-----------------------------------------+ | "BUSINESS ECOLOGY" | | | | | | +---------------+ | | | BUREAUCRACY | | | +---------------+ | | | | is your worst enemy | | because it - | | | | POISONS the mind | | STIFLES the spirit | | POLLUTES self-motivation | | and finally | | KILLS the individual. | +-----------------------------------------+
"I'M Going To Do All I Can to Fight This Problem . . ." by T. Vincent Learson, Chairman
"How To Stuff A Wild Duck", 1973, IBM poster
https://collection.cooperhewitt.org/objects/18618011/
past Wild Duck posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#38 'Innovation' and other crimes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#25 sizeof() was: The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#18 IT full of 'ducks'? Declare open season
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#30 IBM Centennial Film: Wild Ducks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#33 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#79 Innovation and iconoclasm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#1 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#45 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#93 John R. Opel, RIP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#105 5 ways to keep your rockstar employees happy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#121 The Myth of Work-Life Balance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#59 Original Thinking Is Hard, Where Good Ideas Come From
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#72 Original Thinking Is Hard, Where Good Ideas Come From
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#3 Time to Think ... and to Listen
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#7 Leadership Trends and Realities: What Does Leadership Look Like Today
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#17 Hierarchy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#26 Top Ten Reasons Why Large Companies Fail To Keep Their Best Talent
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#19 SnOODAn: Boyd, Snowden, and Resilience
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#23 How to Stuff a Wild Duck
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#24 How to Stuff a Wild Duck
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#26 How to Stuff a Wild Duck
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#28 How to Stuff a Wild Duck
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#31 History--punched card transmission over telegraph lines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#42 The IBM "Open Door" policy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#65 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#12 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#72 In Command, but Out Of Control
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#3 Inside the Box People don't actually like creativity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#4 Inside the Box People don't actually like creativity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#68 "Death of the mainframe"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#52 IBM Wild Ducks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#93 Maximizing shareholder value: The Goal that changed corporate America
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#97 Where does the term Wild Duck come from?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#98 How to groom a leader?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#105 Happy 50th Birthday to the IBM Cambridge Scientific Center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#52 First 2014 Golden Goose Award to physicist Larry Smarr
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#53 Not Wild Ducks but Wild Geese - The history behind the story
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#54 IBM layoffs strike first in India; workers describe cuts as 'slaughter' and 'massive'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#8 Microsoft culture must change, chairman says
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#91 IBM layoffs strike first in India; workers describe cuts as 'slaughter' and 'massive'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#33 Can Ginni really lead the company to the next great product line?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#59 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#65 Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#68 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#79 EBFAS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#80 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#7 You can make your workplace 'happy'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#48 Is coding the new literacy?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#56 This Chart From IBM Explains Why Cloud Computing Is Such A Game-Changer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#80 Here's how a retired submarine captain would save IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#17 There's No Such Thing as Corporate DNA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#60 [Poll] Computing favorities
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#14 Leaked IBM email says cutting 'redundant' jobs is a 'permanent and ongoing' part of its business model
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#96 IBM Wild Ducks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#93 An OODA-loop is a far-from-equilibrium, non-linear system with feedback
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: What if the Kuomintang Had Won the Chinese Civil War? Date: 29 Oct 2017 Blog: FacebookWhat if the Kuomintang Had Won the Chinese Civil War? What would China's history look like if Chiang Kai-shek had ignored George C. Marshall's request in 1946?
Miles puts blame on OSS & Wedemeyer/Army (had been Marshall's staff,
then Marshall supported Wedemeyer) ... already had given China to
Communists before end of WW2. OSS and Army factions can't wrest
control of interface w/Nationalists from the Navy, so they setup with
the communists (which they can claim sole credit) and do whatever they
can to undermine the Navy. Lots in chapter "Wedemeyer Takes Over"
pgs433-455 and SACO Deadend Kids Take The Coast, pg492-521
https://www.amazon.com/different-kind-war-little-known-guerrilla/dp/B0007IYOFW/
https://books.google.com/books/about/A_Different_Kind_of_War.html?id=U4pBAAAAIAAJ
SACO home page
http://www.saconavy.com/
Marine's account of SACO
https://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/2009/11/marines-china
Wedemeyer testimony Dec 1947, possibly realizes what was done wrong
https://web.archive.org/web/20090813223215/http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,804381,00.html
this tries to absolve State dept. blame (when Marshall was SECSTATE)
https://archive.org/details/VanSlykeLymanTheChinaWhitePaper1949
However, assistant secretary of treasury Harry Dexter White was also
operating on behalf of Stalin ... and did everything possible to
divert congressional funds supporting Kuomintang. Stalin had also sent
White draft demands for US to transmit to Japan ... in US Hull note
(ultimatum) which was major factor in Japan to attack Pearl Harbor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Dexter_White#Venona_project
hull note
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull_note#Interpretations
disclaimer: after end of hostilities in Europe, in 1946 my wife's father was posted to Nanking as military adviser to Chiang Kai-shek (conjecture possible punishment because he refused further command in Germany, even when promised promotion to general).
besides other reasons Miles refers to OSS/USArmy giving China to the communists, he describes the part of Chinese army that had cooperated with the Japanese ... towards the end tried to come over to the Nationalists but was vetoed by the US Army ... so they went over to the communists ... and it was largely these forces that show up later in Korea.
W/O OSS/army giving China to the Communists (with some help from Harry Dexter White) ... you don't have Korea, w/o China&Korea, you don't have SE Asia domino theory and you don't have Vietnam. Also you don't have Korea, Pakistan, Iran nuclear situation.
Remember John Foster Dulles played major role in rebuilding German
military and industry from 20s up through early 40s. From the law of
unintended consequences, when the 1943 US Strategic Bombing program
needed coordinates of targets in Germany, they got them from
wallstreet.
https://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Foster-Dulles-Allen-Secret-ebook/dp/B00BY5QX1K/
loc865-68:
In mid-1931 a consortium of American banks, eager to safeguard their
investments in Germany, persuaded the German government to accept a
loan of nearly $500 million to prevent default. Foster was their
agent. His ties to the German government tightened after Hitler took
power at the beginning of 1933 and appointed Foster's old friend
Hjalmar Schacht as minister of economics.
loc905-7:
Foster was stunned by his brother's suggestion that Sullivan &
Cromwell quit Germany. Many of his clients with interests there,
including not just banks but corporations like Standard Oil and
General Electric, wished Sullivan & Cromwell to remain active
regardless of political conditions.
loc938-40:
At least one other senior partner at Sullivan & Cromwell, Eustace
Seligman, was equally disturbed. In October 1939, six weeks after the
Nazi invasion of Poland, he took the extraordinary step of sending
Foster a formal memorandum disavowing what his old friend was saying
about Nazism
... snip ...
June1940, Germany had a victory celebration at the NYC Waldorf-Astoria
with major industrialists. Lots of them were there to hear how to do
business with the Nazis (and circumvent the neutrality laws)
https://www.amazon.com/Man-Called-Intrepid-Incredible-Narrative-ebook/dp/B00V9QVE5O/
Later 5000 industrialists from across the US had conference (also) at
NYC Waldorf-Astoria and in part because they had gotten such bad
reputation for the depression and supporting Nazi Germany, they
approved a major propaganda campaign to equate capitalism with
Christianity, in part in the early 50s, it leads to "In God We Trust"
on money and "under God" in the allegiance.
https://www.amazon.com/One-Nation-Under-God-Corporate-ebook/dp/B00PWX7R56/
If it wasn't for Stalin contriving to get US to send the ultimatums in the Hull note, Japanese may not have attacked Pearl Harbor. Stalin was battling 3/4s of German military (which they continued to battle thru the rest of the war) and wanted to preempt Japan from attacking also, as well as drawing US in on the Soviets side.
other trivia: During "Battle of Britain", FDR's ambassador to Britain
(papa Kennedy) was working with Nazis. FDR called him back to
Washington and presented Kennedy with the proof and gave him an
ultimatum. Kennedy mended his ways, even supporting FDR for reelection
in speeches.
https://www.amazon.com/Man-Called-Intrepid-Incredible-Narrative-ebook/dp/B00V9QVE5O/
loc2645-52:
The Kennedys dined with the Roosevelts that evening. Two days later,
Joseph P. Kennedy spoke on nationwide radio. A startled public learned
he now believed "Franklin D. Roosevelt should be re-elected
President." He told a press conference: "I never made anti-British
statements or said, on or off the record, that I do not expect Britain
to win the war."
British historian Nicholas Bethell wrote: "How Roosevelt contrived the
transformation is a mystery." And so it remained until the BSC Papers
disclosed that the President had been supplied with enough evidence of
Kennedy's disloyalty that the Ambassador, when shown it, saw
discretion to be the better part of valor.
... snip ...
Harry Dexter White, Chiang Kai-shek, Different Kind of War recent posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#90 Economist, Harry Dent Hints: Global Banks Facing a Serious Crisis in Months Ahead
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#91 Godwin's Law should force us to remember & fear our shared heritage with Nazi Germany
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#55 Should America Have Entered World War I?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#61 Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#51 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#14 Fast OODA-Loops increase Maneuverability
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#18 5 Naval Battles That Changed History Forever
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#34 The head of the Census Bureau just quit, and the consequences are huge
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#4 Mapping the decentralized world of tomorrow
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#105 Iraq, Longest War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#28 WW2 Internment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#68 Ghost Riders of Baghdad: Soldiers, Civilians, and the Myth of the Surge
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#75 WW II cryptography
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#79 WW II cryptography
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#81 WW II cryptography
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#87 WW II cryptography
Foster, Intrepid, &/or corporate propaganda recent posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#10 Separation church and state
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#63 One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#97 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#3 Dunkirk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#36 Trump's S.E.C. Nominee Disclosure Offers Rare Glimpse of Clients and Conflicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#77 Trump's crackdown focuses on people in the U.S. illegally - but not on the businesses that hire them
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#91 Godwin's Law should force us to remember & fear our shared heritage with Nazi Germany
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#55 Should America Have Entered World War I?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#22 Ironic old "fortune"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#23 Ironic old "fortune"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#60 The Illusion Of Victory: America In World War I
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#69 The knives are out for Trump's national security adviser H.R. McMaster
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#18 5 Naval Battles That Changed History Forever
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#41 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#55 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#60 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#84 Early use of word "computer", 1944
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#85 Early use of word "computer", 1944
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#102 pneumatic cash systems was Re: [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#99 The Real Reason You Should See Dunkirk: Hitler Lost World War II There
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#3 Dunkirk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#97 Business as Usual: The Long History of Corporate Personhood
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#98 endless medical arguments, Disregard post (another screwup)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#102 75 years ago, Hitler invaded Poland. Here's how it happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#8 The Real Reason Wages Have Stagnated: Our Economy Is Optimized For Financialization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#28 WW2 Internment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#41 Commercial grade ink and paper (Western Union)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#74 When Working From Home Doesn't Work
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: The Do's and Don'ts of Kleptocracy Date: 30 Oct 2017 Blog: FacebookThe Do's and Don'ts of Kleptocracy
middle last decade was invited to EU conference held at Lichtenstien castle of CEOs and exchange presidents. Theme of the conference was Sarbanes-Oxley leaking into EU ... seemed to be part of Lichtenstien efforts to get off US Treasury money laundering black list. Stayed at inn dating from 1600s and innkeaper would joke about getting lots of visitors with business cards that said "dept. of money laundering" (specialized in money laundering, rather than anti-money laundering). My talk was that SOX was something of facade, gift to the audit industry (after demise in the wake of ENRON) ... lots of additional audit requirements (expense), but didn't substantially impact fraud. Some prediction that the only possible provision in SOX was the part about whistleblowers.
rhetoric on the floor of congress had been that Sarbanes-Oxley would prevent future ENRONs and guarantee that executives and auditors did jailtime, but it required SEC to do something. Possibly because even GAO didn't believe SEC was doing anything, it started doing reports of public company fraudulent financial filings, even showing they increased after SOX goes into effect (and nobody doing jailtime).
note later in the Madoff congressional hearings, they had testimony by the person that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff. One of his comments that whistleblowers turn up 13 times more fraud than audits.
Enron posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
Sarbanes-Oxley posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
Financial reporting fraud posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud.fraud
tax evasion, tax fraud, tax haven, tax avoidance posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion
money laundering posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering
Madoff postings
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff
whistleblower posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#whistleblower
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this Newsgroups: comp.misc, alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 15:13:50 -0700RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> writes:
in the 60s, there were a few virtual machine spin-offs of CP/67 from
the science center ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
for commercial online use ... that quickly moved up the value
stream to providing information to the financial industry ... some
past virtual machine based commercial online services
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#online
In the early 70s, Tymshare started offering virtual machine based vm370
(cp/67 follow-on) commercial services. Aug 1976, Tymshare started
offering their vm370/cms based online computer conferencing free to the
IBM mainframe user group ... archived here:
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/
After moving to silicon valley in the 70s, i would go around to various
customers periodically, including Tymshare ... and/or see them at the
monthly Baybunch meetings hosted at SLAC. I also arranged with Tymshare
to make me a full dump of all vmshare files so that I could make them
available internally in IBM. some old related email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vmshare
On one of the visits to Tymshare, I was introduced to Adventure game ... they had got it from Stanford SAIL PDP10 and ported it to vm370/cms. They told the story of informing head of Tymshare that users were playing games on their service. The head of Tymshare said their system was only for business uses and all games had to be removed. He was then told that 1/3rd of Tymshare revenue was then coming from game playing ... and he changes his mind (I also get copy of Adventure for distribution internally inside IBM).
I was blamed for online computer conferencing (precursor to social
media) on the internal network (larger than arpanet/internet from just
about the beginning until sometime mid-80s). Folklore is that when the
corporate executive committee was told about online computer
conferencing (and the internal network), 5of6 wanted to fire me.
some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#cmc
In early 80s, I was doing some networking in project I called HSDT (in
part funded out of the office of the 6th corporate executive) some past
posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
we were also working with the director of NSF and were suppose to get
$20M to interconnect the NSF supercomputer centers. Then congress cuts
the budget, some other things happened and eventually a RFP is released.
Internal politics prevent us from bidding. The director of NSF tries to
help by writing the company a letter 3Apr1986, NSF Director to IBM Chief Scientist and IBM Senior VP and director of Research, copying IBM CEO) with support from other gov. agencies, copying the CEO ... but that just makes the internal politics
worse (as does comments that what we already have running is at least
5yrs ahead of all RFP responses). As regional networks connect into the
centers it becomes NSFNET backbone, precursor to modern internet. ref
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/401444/grid-computing/
some old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet
Last project we did at IBM was HA/CMP ... and working with commercial
cluster scale-up with Oracle and scientific cluster scale-up with national
labs. Then cluster scale-up is transferred and announced as supercomputer
for scientific/technical *ONLY* and we are told we can't work on anything
with more than four processors. we decide to leave IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp
Later two of the oracle people are at a small client/server startup responsible for something called commerce server and we are brought in as consultants because they want to do payment transactions on the server. The startup has also invented this technology they call "SSL" and the results is now frequently called ecommerce.
Over next few years involved in some number of financial and ecommerce activities. One visit to large datacenter providing ecommerce hosting services ... they talk about the internet popularity contests and regular statistics about webservers with the highest hits per month. They point out that they host five different ecommerce PORN services ... all individually having higher activity per month than the #1 webserver listed in the public popularity contests. They observe that it isn't that different than porn dominating the video tape business.
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 31 Oct 2017 11:52:08 -0700Jesse1.Robinson@SCE.COM (Jesse 1 Robinson) writes:
the "official" next generation DBMS was code named EAGLE (DB1?). while
the corporation was preoccupied with EAGLE, we managed to do tech
transfer to Endicott and get it out as SQL/DS. Then when EAGLE imploded,
there was requests about how fast could sql/ds (system/r) be ported to
MVS. This was eventually released as DB2 originally for decision support
*ONLY*. 1995 System/R reunion
http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/
HTML version
http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/SQL_Reunion_95/sqlr95.html
Some EAGLE reference
http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/SQL_Reunion_95/sqlr95-System.html#Index164
from above:
Eagle was an IMS successor; it was going to do everything. And they were
very worried about path lengths. So there had been something in IMS
called TP1. But TP1 was more of a general characterization; ET1 was a
specific program. And then Jim wrote all this stuff down in an article
that he published in Datamation. It had Anonymous et al. or something
like that as the author[
... snip ...
When Jim leaves for Tandem, he palms off some amount of stuff on me releted to System/R as well as consulting with the IMS group.
later we were doing cluster scale-up for rs/6000 ha/cmp ... working
with oracle, ingres, sybase, etc for commercial scale-up and national
labs for scientific scale-up. for commercial scale-up, the issue was
ibm's RDBMS cluster was mainframe only (loosely-coupled). These other
vendors had open system source base that also supported DEC VAX and
DEC VAX/Cluster. I did a cluster scaleuup distributed lock
manager that emulated the DEC VAX/Cluster semantics ... making it
easier for them to port to HA/CMP. The mainframe DB2 group started
complaining that if I was allowed to go ahead, it would be at least
5yrs ahead of them. This is reference to Jan1992 meeting in Ellison's
(Oracle CEO) on cluster scale-up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13
Within a few weeks of the above meeting, cluster scale-up was
transferred, announced as IBM supercomputer for numeric/scientific
*ONLY*, and we were told we couldn't work on anything with more than
four processors ... some old email for the period
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa
posts mentioning ha/cmp
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp
Trivia: one of the oracle people mentioned in the Ellison cluster scale-up meeting claims he was the primary person when he was at IBM, doing the SQL/DS tech transfer to STL (now SVL) for port to MVS (to become DB2).
Totally other trivia: in the wake of being told we couldn't work on more than four processors, we leave IBM. Later two of the other Oracle people in the Ellison cluster scale-up meeting are at a small client/server startup responsible for something called the "commerce" server. We are brought in as consultants because they want to do payment transactions on the server. The startup had also done some technology called "SSL" they wanted to use ... the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce".
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 31 Oct 2017 14:28:23 -0700ksh@NTRS.COM (Karl S Huf) writes:
more trivia ... my wife served stint in the gburg JES group ... one of
the catchers for ASP to turn into JES3 ... then was one of the authors
of "JESUS" (JES Unified System) ... the combined features of JES2 and
JES3 that the respective customers couldn't live without ... but for
various reasons never went any further. She then was con'ed into going
to POK to be responsible for mainframe loosely-coupled architecture
... where she did Peer-Coupled Shared Data architecture. She
didn't remain very long because of 1) little uptake (except for IMS
hotstandby until sysplex & parallel sysplex much later) and 2)
constant battles with the communication group trying to force her into
using SNA for loosely-coupled operation (periodic truce where they
allowed she could use anything within the datacenter walls, but
communication group had strategic ownership of everything that crossed
datacenter walls) past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#shareddata
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 31 Oct 2017 18:35:14 -0700edgould1948@COMCAST.NET (Edward Gould) writes:
all the original sql/relational was done on vm/145 and then System/R
technology transfer to Endicott for SQL/DS on both DOS/VSE and VM,
before transfer to STL & porting to MVS (after EAGLE implodes).
some posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr
YKT also did QBE (query-by-example) for VM370. Old email about "father
of QBE and arch-enemy of System/R" doing QBE presentation at SJR
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#email800310
QBE ref:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Query_by_Example
note predating SQL & QBE were 4th generation languages developed
on CP67&VM370 for virtual machine based commercial online
offerings. past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#online
Mathematica original did RAMIS and ran on NCSS ... CP67 spin-off from
the science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
then came FOCUS available on TYMSHARE (later vm370-based online commercial system) ... and NCSS did NOMAD (as their own proprietary)
some online refs
http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/text/Oral_History/RAMIS_and_NOMAD/RAMIS_and_NOMAD.National_CSS.oral_history.2005.102658182.pdf
http://www.decosta.com/Nomad/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOCUS
FOCUS is a computer programming language and development environment. It
is a language used to build database queries, and is regarded as a
fourth-generation programming language (4GL). Produced by Information
Builders Inc., it was originally developed for data handling and
analysis on the IBM mainframe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomad_software
Martin provided a "dozen pages of COBOL, and then just a page or two of
Mark IV, from Informatics." Rawlings offered the following single
statement, performing a set-at-a-time operation, to show how trivial
this problem was with Nomad:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramis_software
RAMIS was initially developed in the mid 1960s by the company
MATHEMATICA on a consulting contract for a marketing study by a team
headed by Gerald Cohen and subsequently further developed and marketed
as a general purpose data management and analysis tool. In the late
1960s Cohen fell out with the management of MATHEMATICA and left to form
his own company. Soon thereafter his new company released a new product
called FOCUS which was very similar to RAMIS - even, it is rumored,
having some of the same bugs.
... snip ...
posts mentioning QBE:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#44 SQL wildcard origins?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002o.html#70 Pismronunciation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#11 Dreaming About Redesigning SQL
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#18 Dreaming About Redesigning SQL
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#19 Dreaming About Redesigning SQL
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005.html#25 Network databases
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#21 Ellison Looks Back As Oracle Turns 30
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#82 What would be a truly relational operating system ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#55 Maybe off topic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#60 Maybe off topic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#1 Deja Cloud?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#60 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#37 PDP-10 byte instructions, was What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#85 Great mainframe history(?)
other posts mentioning RAMIS, NOMAD, &/or FOCUS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#15 CA-RAMIS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#17 CA-RAMIS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#15 Dreaming About Redesigning SQL
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#37 PDP-1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#49 Seeking info on HP FOCUS (HP 9000 Series 500) and IBM ROMP CPUs from early 80's
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#12 Special characters in passwords was Re: RACF - Password rules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#37 Quote from comp.object
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#17 Newbie question on table design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#40 Gone but not forgotten: 10 operating systems the world left behind
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#54 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#55 Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer (warning: Conley rant)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#58 Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer (warning: Conley rant)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#21 What non-IBM software products have been most significant to the mainframe's success
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#26 Global Sourcing with Cloud Computing and Virtualization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#63 VMSHARE Archives
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#69 "Best" versus "worst" programming language you've used?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#39 Beyond Patriot? The Multinational MEADS Air Defense Program
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#43 z/OS's basis for TCP/IP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#51 From Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#84 Time to competency for new software language?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#42 360/20, was 1132 printer history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#56 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#57 Article for the boss: COBOL will outlive us all
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#63 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#16 Old data storage or data base
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#0 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#62 Google F1 was: Re: MongoDB
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#77 Bloat
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#34 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#32 Speed of computers--wave equation for the copper atom? (curiosity)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#101 Flat (VSAM or other) files still in use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#40 How Larry Ellison Became The Fifth Richest Man In The World By Using IBM's Idea
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#27 the legacy of Seymour Cray
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#107 some computer and online history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#28 {wtf} Tymshare SuperBasic Source Code
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 10:45:29 -0700Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> writes:
two decades ago, we had at our house a mini-conference with professors of graduate computer security programs from universities in cal. Number one problem was the graudate students in computer security weren't interested in working on improving security design and implementation ... but were spending all their time looking for vulnerabilties because they got peer creds for finding the next exploit (no peer acknowledgment for designing and building better computer security ... which was also much harder and time consuming). Things haven't significantly changed since then (other than they are trying to better monetize discovery of exploits)
past refs:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005c.html#26 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#62 folklore indeed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#36 Builders V. Breakers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#15 The real story of how the Internet became so vulnerable
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 11:03:22 -0700Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
fingerslip ... Things have NOT significantly changed since then (other than they are trying to better monetize discovery of exploits)
...
RFC Editor Postel (until he passed) used to let me help with the periodic published STD1. He also sponsored my talk on "Why Internet isn't business critical dataprocessing" at ISI & the USC graduate network security program came over (it was standing room only in the largest room ISI had).
postel ref
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Postel
recent posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#21 Congratulations IBM for 'inventing' out-of-office email. You win Stupid Patent of the Month
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#24 elliptic curve pkinit?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#32 The very beginning of TCP/IP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#92 Old hardware
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#11 The Geniuses that Anticipated the Idea of the Internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#14 The Geniuses that Anticipated the Idea of the Internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#47 A flaw in the design; The Internet's founders saw its promise but didn't foresee users attacking one another
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#70 Domain Name System
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#75 11May1992 (25 years ago) press on cluster scale-up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#100 Jean Sammet, Co-Designer of a Pioneering Computer Language, Dies at 89
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#14 Mainframe Networking problems
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#18 progress in e-mail, such as AOL
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 11:21:13 -0700Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> writes:
also two decades ago, there were financial industry critical
infrastructure protection meetings in the white house annex.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_infrastructure_protection
The biggest issue over the financial industry ISAC
https://www.fsisac.com/
was to make sure it wasn't a government operation and therefor not
subject to FOIA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Information_Act_(United_States)
the concern was not about other criminals learning of attacks & exploits, they didn't want the public to learn how bad things were.
we had also been brought in to help wordsmith some cal. state legislation. they were working on electronic signature, data breach notification and opt-in personal information sharing. several of the participants had done detailed public privacy surveys and the number one issue was identity theft of the form of fraudulent financial transactions resulting from various kinds of data breaches.
There was little or nothing (then) being done about data breaches. The issue was that entities typical take security measures in self protection. The problem with most data breaches was that the institution wasn't at risk but the public. It was hoped that the publicity from the notifications would motivate corrective action (which undermined the effort to make sure ISACs weren't subject to FOIA).
Note since then there have been several federal (state pre-emption) bills, about evenly divided between those similar to the cal. legislation and those that would effectively eliminate notification (some cleverly written that notification is only required when a large combination of different personal information was involved ... where institutions would rarely or never have all of the information on the list).
data breach notification posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#data.breach.notification.notification
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: How DARPA, The Secretive Agency That Invented The Internet, Is Working To Reinvent It Date: 09 Nov 2017 Blog: FacebookHow DARPA, The Secretive Agency That Invented The Internet, Is Working To Reinvent It
internet posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internet
about former co-worker at the science center (also book at amazon)
... who was bullied as child because he was different ... "It's cool
to be clever"
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cool-to-be-clever-edson-hendricks/id483020515?mt=8
It's Cool to be Clever: the true story of Edson C. Hendricks, the
genius who invented the design for the Internet. Bullied as a child,
Edson Hendricks went on to create the forerunner to the Internet. IT'S
COOL TO BE CLEVER tells the true story of an inquisitive schoolboy in
the 1950s who is bullied because he is so smart. He finds comfort in
an imaginary world where he has machine parts, and no biological
organs or emotions. Years later, Edson's strange capacity to "think
like a machine" helps him create a way for computers to
communicate. His "connectionless" network design is used in today's
Internet.
... snip ...
Ed was also responsible for the internal network, larger than the
arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until sometime mid-80s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks
internal network posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
The technology was also used for the corporate sponsored university
network (also larger than arpanet/internet for a time).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BITNET
bitnet posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet
I was blamed for online computer conferencing (precursor to social
media) on the internal network in the late 70s and early 80s. Folklore
is that when the corporate executive committee was told about online
computer conferencing (and the internal network), 5of6 wanted to fire
me. Then I got funding out of the sixth's office for something called
HSDT (high-speed links). Part of this was working with the director of
NSF for interconnecting the NSF supercomputer centers. We were suppose
to get $20M, then congress cuts the budget, some other things happend,
and finally releases RFP. Internal politics prevents us from
bidding. The NSF director tries to help, writes the company a letter
3Apr1986, NSF Director to IBM Chief Scientist and IBM Senior VP and director of Research, copying IBM CEO)
with support from other agencies, but that just makes the internal
politics worse (as does comments that what we already had working was
at least 5yrs ahead of all RFP responses). Note as regional networks
connect into the centers, it grows into the NSFNET backbone, precursor
to modern internet.
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/401444/grid-computing/
NSFNET posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet
HSDT posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
online computer conferencing posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#cmc
trivia: late 80s/early 90s, much of the federal government had a directive to do away with the internet, moving everything to OSI (GOSIP).
from long ago and far away
Date: 13 May 1986, 16:39:40
To: WHEELER@ALMVMA
From: xxxx@WSUVM1
Lynn,
We don't have a definite schedule for connection. There is a
solicitation for proposals from NSF which has a June 1 deadline for
fiscal 86 funding. Proposals received after June 1 will be considered
for fiscal 87. It's not clear we would be ready before October
anyway. We are running into several things which could delay
connection. For example, we have potential for fairly easy
communications to the U. of Washinton, but their connection to San
Diego is MFEnet not TCP/IP which NSF plans to use for the rest of the
network. Also, there is a group in the northwest that is trying to
consolidate the requirements of most of the univeristies in the area
into a joint proposal. We are also seeking help in installing a
Vector Facility on the 3090. That could have an affect on when we
would hook up.
It looks like a simpler interconnection is badly needed. So far,
there doesn't seem to be an IBM:NSFnet connection that doesn't require
products from five or six other vendors.
We would be interested in hearing what comes out of your June
meetings.
... snip ... top of post, old email index, NSFNET email
NSFNET related email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet
BBN was suppose to do the "official" DARPA TCP/IP implementation and
CSRG being told that they couldn't to TCP/IP implementation (which
became the most widely used implementation) ... verbally agreeing with
DARPA that they weren't doing TCP/IP ... while totally ignoring
them. original article went 404 ... but lieves on at wayback machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20050418032606/http://www.be.daemonnews.org/199909/usenix-kirk.html
from above:
He said (paraphrased) that every DARPA meeting ended up the same, with
the Military coming in and giving CSRG (at UCB, the group that worked
on BSD) a stern warning that they were to work on the Operating
System, and that BBN will work on the networking. Every time, Bob
Fabry, then the adviser of CSRG, would "Yes: them to death" and they'd
go off and just continue the way they were going. Much to the
frustration of the DARPA advisery board.
... snip ...
The original IBM mainframe TCP/IP product implementation was done in VS/Pascal (and didn't have the buffer problems that were epidemic in C language implementations). However, the communication group first fought hard to block its release. Finally when they couldn't completely block its release, they claimed that it had to be turned over to the communication group for release. What shipped to customers got 44kbytes/sec using nearly whole 3090 processor. I did the RFC1044 enhancements and in some tuning tests at Cray Research between 4341 and Cray got sustained channel throughput using only modest amount of 4341 processor (possibly 500 times improvement in bytes moved per instruction executed).
RFC1044 posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#1044
Later the communication group had contractor do TCP/IP implementation in VTAM. The initial demo was that it ran significantly faster than LU6.2. The communication group told the contractor that everybody knows that a "proper" TCP/IP implementation ran much slower than LU6.2 and they would only be paying for a "proper" implementation.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2017 17:14:15 -0800Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
Early 360/65 running a student fortran compile, link/edit, execute ... could take over 30 seconds elapsed ... a large majority was elapsed time for loading the transient SVC open/close code segments. A big part of early OS/360 transaction processing systems ... was that they did all the opens at startup and ran for hours ... providing lightweight system services for transactions and minimized direct use of OS/360 (very heavyweight) native services.
The library routines selected by SVC open ... based on device and
options ... would build real (device dependent) channel programs running
in application space and privilege. It would then do SVC0/EXCP to pass
channel program to supervisor for initiation. This represented
significant problem for OS/360 mobing to 16mbyte virtual memoy. Execution of
channel programs did transfers to/from real addresses. In move to
virtual memory, application library built channel programs with virtual
addresses. When this was passed to SVC0/EXCP for execution, required
that a complete copy of the original channel program ... substituting
real for virtual addresses (plus some misc. other things). This is
similar to what virtual machine CP67 had to do for virtual machine
channel programs. In fact, the original OS/360 move to virtual machine,
borrowed the code from CP67 to add to EXCP processing. recent posts
mentioning the biggest amount of code for OS/360 support virtual memory
was borrowing CCWTRANS (from CP67).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#19 follow up to dense code definition
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#90 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#83 Mainframe operating systems?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#5 TSS/8, was A Whirlwind History of the Computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#59 64 bit addressing into the future
The official operating system (TSS/360) for virtual memory 360/67 implemented "single-level-store" virtual memory paradigm ... basically mapping files to virtual addresses and then page faulting (as necessary). This was aided by 360/67 had both 24bit addressing (standard 360 16mbyte addresses) and 32bit addressing (4mbyte addresses). TSS/360 had several problems, reliability not satisfactory for production work, extremely bloated fixed kernel size (occupied significant part of availabel real storage), serialized application execution with page faults, etc.
As undergraduate, univ. hired me fulltime to be responsible for os/360 production system running 360/67 as 360/65. Later, cp/67 was installed and I could play with it on weekends. The IBMer working with TSS/360 and I did a fortran edit/input (with simulated think time), compile, link, run benchmark. CP67/CMS running 35 simulated users had higher throughput and lower response than TSS/360 running 4 simulated users doing same benchmark.
In the 70s, I did a page-mapped filesystem, first for CP67/CMS and then
moved to VM370/CMS ... and would claim I learned not how to implement it
from TSS/360 ... could get 3-4 times the throughput than standard CMS
filesystem. some posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#mmap
However at about the same time, Future System effort was
going on and was doing a TSS/360-like single-level-store implemenation
(and contributed to failure of FS). FS posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
there is the folklore that the later s/38 ... did a (TSS/360, FS) single-level-store implementation ... but the degraded throughput wasn't an issue in the s/38 market (ease of use and convenience was more dominant factor). trivia: s/38 did treat all disk drives and single pool of records, records for a file could be scatter allocated across all available devices ... which required all disks backed-up and restored as single entity. Single disk failure required complete filesystem restored. This could take 24hrs on s/38 .... and didn't scale for large mainframe configuration that might have 300 disks (any single disk failure required disk replaced and then all disks restored). Traumatic effects of single disk failure was major motivation for S/38 being early adopter of RAID.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2017 17:25:20 -0800Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> writes:
John Helmer: Lunatic Russia-Hating in Washington Is 70 Years Old. It
Started with Joseph Alsop, George Kennan and the Washington Post
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/10/john-helmer-lunatic-russia-hating-washington-70-years-old-started-joseph-alsop-george-kennan-washington-post.html
In interview with fareed, Kissinger somewhat indirectly referred to
theme about "Harvard being responsible for the rise of Putin"
(i.e. Russia needed strongman to oppose the westerners that seemed
intent on looting the country). John Helmer: Convicted Fraudster
Jonathan Hay, Harvard's Man Who Wrecked Russia, Resurfaces in Ukraine
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/02/convicted-fraudster-jonathan-hay-harvards-man-who-wrecked-russia-resurfaces-in-ukraine.html
If you are unfamiliar with this fiasco, which was also the true
proximate cause of Larry Summers' ouster from Harvard, you must read an
extraordinary expose, How Harvard Lost Russia, from Institutional
Investor. I am told copies of this article were stuffed in every Harvard
faculty member's inbox the day Summers got a vote of no confidence and
resigned shortly thereafter.
... snip ...
How Harvard lost Russia; The best and brightest of America's premier
university came to Moscow in the 1990s to teach Russians how to be
capitalists. This is the inside story of how their efforts led to
scandal and disgrace.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160325154522/http://www.institutionalinvestor.com:80/Article/1020662/How-Harvard-lost-Russia.html
Mostly, they hurt Russia and its hopes of establishing a lasting
framework for a stable Western-style capitalism, as Summers himself
acknowledged when he testified under oath in the U.S. lawsuit in
Cambridge in 2002. "The project was of enormous value," said Summers,
who by then had been installed as the president of Harvard. "Its
cessation was damaging to Russian economic reform and to the
U.S.-Russian relationship."
... snip ...
I was semi-involved, asked about plan for 5,000 bank branches around the country (@$1m, $5B total) as part of promoting democratic capitalism ... but then western capitalist kleptocracy in Russia implodes.
... going back a little further ...
John Foster Dulles played major role in rebuilding German military and
industry from 20s up through early 40s. From the law of unintended
consequences, when the 1943 US Strategic Bombing program needed
coordinates of targets in Germany, they got them from wallstreet.
https://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Foster-Dulles-Allen-Secret-ebook/dp/B00BY5QX1K/
loc865-68:
In mid-1931 a consortium of American banks, eager to safeguard their
investments in Germany, persuaded the German government to accept a loan
of nearly $500 million to prevent default. Foster was their agent. His
ties to the German government tightened after Hitler took power at the
beginning of 1933 and appointed Foster's old friend Hjalmar Schacht as
minister of economics.
loc905-7:
Foster was stunned by his brother's suggestion that Sullivan & Cromwell
quit Germany. Many of his clients with interests there, including not
just banks but corporations like Standard Oil and General Electric,
wished Sullivan & Cromwell to remain active regardless of political
conditions.
loc938-40:
At least one other senior partner at Sullivan & Cromwell, Eustace
Seligman, was equally disturbed. In October 1939, six weeks after the
Nazi invasion of Poland, he took the extraordinary step of sending
Foster a formal memorandum disavowing what his old friend was saying
about Nazism
... snip ...
June1940, Germany had a victory celebration at the NYC Waldorf-Astoria
with major industrialists. Lots of them were there to hear how to do
business with the Nazis (and circumvent the neutrality laws)
https://www.amazon.com/Man-Called-Intrepid-Incredible-Narrative-ebook/dp/B00V9QVE5O/
sometime later 5000 industrialists from across the US had conference
(also) at NYC Waldorf-Astoria and in part because they had gotten such
bad reputation for the depression and supporting Nazi Germany, they
approved a major propaganda campaign to equate capitalism with
Christianity, in part in the early 50s, it leads to "In God We Trust" on
money and "under God" in the allegiance.
https://www.amazon.com/One-Nation-Under-God-Corporate-ebook/dp/B00PWX7R56/
recent posts mentioning Putin and/or John Foster Dulles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#7 Malicious Cyber Activity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#56 25th Anniversary Implementation of Nunn-Lugar Act
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#63 One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#3 Dunkirk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#36 Trump's S.E.C. Nominee Disclosure Offers Rare Glimpse of Clients and Conflicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#91 Godwin's Law should force us to remember & fear our shared heritage with Nazi Germany
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#38 Imperial Hubris
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#55 Should America Have Entered World War I?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#22 Ironic old "fortune"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#23 Ironic old "fortune"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#60 The Illusion Of Victory: America In World War I
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#69 The knives are out for Trump's national security adviser H.R. McMaster
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#103 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#18 5 Naval Battles That Changed History Forever
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#41 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#63 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#65 View of Russia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#69 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#85 Early use of word "computer", 1944
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#78 This Afghan War Plan By The Guy Who Founded Blackwater Should Scare The Hell Out Of You
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#83 How can we stop algorithms telling lies?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#99 The Real Reason You Should See Dunkirk: Hitler Lost World War II There
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#3 Dunkirk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#39 Disregard post (another screwup; absolutely nothing to do with computers whatsoever!)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#97 Business as Usual: The Long History of Corporate Personhood
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#98 endless medical arguments, Disregard post (another screwup)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#102 75 years ago, Hitler invaded Poland. Here's how it happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#28 WW2 Internment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#69 When Working From Home Doesn't Work
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#74 When Working From Home Doesn't Work
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#78 F-35 Multi-Role
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#82 Lunatic Russia-Hating in Washington Is 70 Years Old. It Started with Joseph Alsop, George Kennan and the Washington Post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#21 Norden bombsight
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#24 What if the Kuomintang Had Won the Chinese Civil War?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2017 17:55:38 -0800re:
other trivia: During "Battle of Britain", FDR's ambassador to Britain
(papa Kennedy) was working with Nazis. FDR called him back to
Washington and presented Kennedy with the proof and gave him an
ultimatum. Kennedy mended his ways, even supporting FDR for reelection
in speeches.
https://www.amazon.com/Man-Called-Intrepid-Incredible-Narrative-ebook/dp/B00V9QVE5O/
loc2645-52:
The Kennedys dined with the Roosevelts that evening. Two days later,
Joseph P. Kennedy spoke on nationwide radio. A startled public learned
he now believed "Franklin D. Roosevelt should be re-elected
President." He told a press conference: "I never made anti-British
statements or said, on or off the record, that I do not expect Britain
to win the war."
British historian Nicholas Bethell wrote: "How Roosevelt contrived the
transformation is a mystery." And so it remained until the BSC Papers
disclosed that the President had been supplied with enough evidence of
Kennedy's disloyalty that the Ambassador, when shown it, saw
discretion to be the better part of valor.
... snip ...
and on the other side of the world, in asia ... how the OSS & the Army game China to the communists.
What if the Kuomintang Had Won the Chinese Civil War? What would China's
history look like if Chiang Kai-shek had ignored George C. Marshall's
request in 1946?
https://thediplomat.com/2015/12/what-if-the-kuomingtang-had-won-the-chinese-civil-war/
Miles puts blame on OSS and Wedemeyer/Army (had been marshall's staff,
then Marshall supported Wedemeyer) ... already had given China to
Communists before end of WW2. OSS and Army factions can't wrest control
of interface w/Nationalists from the Navy, so they setup with the
communists (which they can claim sole credit) and do whatever they can
to undermine the Navy. Lots in chapter "Wedemeyer Takes Over" pgs433-455
and SACO Deadend Kids Take The Coast, pg492-521.
https://www.amazon.com/different-kind-war-little-known-guerrilla/dp/B0007IYOFW/
https://books.google.com/books/about/A_Different_Kind_of_War.html?id=U4pBAAAAIAAJ
Marine's account of SACO
https://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/2009/11/marines-china
Wedemeyer testimony Dec 1947, possibly realizes what was done wrong
https://web.archive.org/web/20090813223215/http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,804381,00.html
this tries to absolve State dept. blame (when Marshall was SECSTATE,
some excuse that Marshall was preoccupied with Europe during WW2 and
then more Europe like Marshall Plan ... and so wasn't paying as
much attention as he should)
https://archive.org/details/VanSlykeLymanTheChinaWhitePaper1949
However, assistant secretary of treasury Harry Dexter White was also
operating on behalf of Stalin ... and did everything possible to divert
congressional funds supporting Kuomintang. Stalin had also sent White
draft demands for US to transmit to Japan ... in US Hull note
(ultimatum) which was major factor in Japan to attack Pearl Harbor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Dexter_White#Venona_project
hull note
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull_note#Interpretations
besides other reasons Miles refers to OSS/USArmy giving China to the communists, he describes the part of Chinese army that had cooperated with the Japanese ... towards the end tried to come over to the Nationalists but was vetoed by the US Army ... so they went over to the communists ... and it was largely these forces that show up later in Korea.
W/O OSS/Army giving China to the Communists (with some help from Harry Dexter White) ... you don't have Korea, w/o China&Korea, you don't have SE Asia domino theory and you don't have Vietnam. Also you don't have Korea, Pakistan, Iran nuclear situation.
more "The Dulles Brothers", loc2611-13:
In 1953, overthrowing Mossadegh had been the Dulles brothers'
obsession. The next year it was Arbenz. Now they focused on Ho Chi Minh,
the Communist leader of Vietnam's anticolonial movement. They singled
him out not simply because of who he was, but where he was. Europe had
settled into its Cold War pattern, and although Foster and Allen still
considered it the center of the world, they believed the front line had
moved to East Asia. They mistakenly saw China as a pawn of the Soviet
Union, and Ho, also mistakenly, as a puppet of both. Crushing him, they
decided, would be the most potent next blow they could strike against
"international Communism."
... snip ...
.... which included things like disposing elected leader of Iran,
supporting Shah and his dreaded SAVAK (trained by Schwarzkopf senior).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK
Then there was something similar in Guatemala (US has had its share of banana republics and excessive repressive regimes).
Beetle: The Life of General Walter Bedell Smith
https://www.amazon.com/Beetle-General-Walter.../dp/B0078XFMVY
pg33/loc786-88:
Two days after his fifty-fifth birthday, on 7 October 1950, Smith
inherited an organization in tatters. The agency's multiple failures,
climaxing with the North Korean invasion, gave Smith the mandate to
reform the intelligence agency.
pg47/loc1053-56:
In the period before the election, John Foster Dulles had engaged in
some calculated maneuvers designed to remove any possibility of Smith's
remaining at the CIA, intending to replace Smith with his brother
Allen. Dulles talked about aggressively "rolling back" communism and
envisioned a more proactive role for the CIA; during his tenure, Smith
actively blunted many covert operation initiatives.
... snip ...
other recent posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#18 5 Naval Battles That Changed History Forever
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#105 Iraq, Longest War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#68 Ghost Riders of Baghdad: Soldiers, Civilians, and the Myth of the Surge
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#75 WW II cryptography
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#87 WW II cryptography
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#24 What if the Kuomintang Had Won the Chinese Civil War?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 09:12:05 -0800Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
in early years of os/360, job scheduler/JCL appeared to be going through quite a bit of evolution. switching to new release of os/360 required quite a bit of testing ... frequent problem was production JCL would stop working and required a lot of debugging to figure out what the problem was.
JCL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_Control_Language
some JES extensions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_Control_Language#Job_Entry_Control_Language
complexity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_Control_Language#Complexity
comments
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_Control_Language#Comments
JCL files can be long and complex, and the language is not easy to
read. (JCL has been described as "user hostile".) OS JCL allows
programmers to include two types of explanatory comment
... snip ...
JCL enhancements
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/5things/entry/5_things_to_know_about_using_symbols_in_jcl_in_z_os_v2r1?lang=en
http://ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/tipstechniques/systemsmanagement/jcl_symbols/
JOB Scheduling
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_scheduler#History
Job Control Language (JCL) on IBM mainframes. Initially based on JCL
functionality to handle dependencies, this era is typified by the
development of sophisticated scheduling solutions (such as Job Entry
Subsystem 2/3) forming part of the systems management and automation
toolset on the mainframe.
... snip ...
JES2/JES3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_Entry_Subsystem_2/3
JES3 Main Device Setup (MDS) has more control over data sets shared
between systems than JES2, and JES3 Dependent Job Control (DJC) has more
provisions for scheduling jobs with dependencies on each other than
JES2. With the widespread use of sophisticated job scheduling software,
DJC has become less important.
... snip ...
trivia, my wife did stint in gburg JES group and was one of the catchers for ASP turning it into JES3. She then was coauthor of JESUS (JES Unified System) design, all the features of JES2 & JES3 that the respective customers couldn't live w/o ... for various reasons, it never came to fruition.
past hasp, asp, jes2, jes3, NJI/NJE posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#hasp
other trivia, early in rex lifetime (before renamed rexx and released to
customers), I wanted to show it wasn't just another scripting
language. I chose as demo to rewrite IBM IPCS (large assembler utility)
in rex, do it in half time over three months with ten times the (IPCS)
function and running ten times faster (some slight of hand programming
hacks). some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dumprx
Batch processing history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batch_processing#History
Batch Window
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batch_processing#Batch_window
recent posts mentioning overnight batch window (frequently also
references financial industry moving to straight-through processing)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#82 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#58 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#63 The ICL 2900
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#39 The Pentagon still uses computer software from 1958 to manage its contracts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#43 The Pentagon still uses computer software from 1958 to manage its contracts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#11 The Mainframe vs. the Server Farm: A Comparison
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#17 Wall Street
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#32 OFF TOPIC: University of California, Irvine, revokes 500 admissions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#3 Somewhat Interesting Mainframe Article
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 16:55:45 -0800hancock4 writes:
CICS had very short pathlength multitasking, storage allocation/deallication, and other system services ... but not very sophisticated ... strictly single processor and didn't scale very well. Circa 2000, I was in datacenter with large multiprocessor mainframe that was running 130 instances of CICS.
Something similar happen to MVS (z/OS) ... that sophistication of operating system scale-up didn't keep pace with increasing power and number of processors. Nearly all mainframes now operate with multiple LPARs (subset of virtual machine function buried in the hardware) and multiple operating system copies. The 130 instances of CICS were partitioned across the multiple copies of MVS running in multiple different LPARs all on single real machine.
CICS was developed at customer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CICS
early history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CICS#History
univ. library got ONR grant to do online catalog and used part of the
money to get 2321 datacell. The effort was also selected to be betatest
for the original CICS program product in 1969 and I got tagged to
debug/support CICS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CICS#Early_evolution
some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#cics
some more cics reference ... gone 404, but lives on at wayback machine
The Evolution of CICS: CICS and Multiprocessor Exploitation (2004)
https://web.archive.org/web/20041023110006/http://www.yelavich.com/history/ev200402.htm
and
https://web.archive.org/web/20050409124902/http://www.yelavich.com/cicshist.htm
and
https://web.archive.org/web/20071124013919/http://www.yelavich.com/history/toc.htm
other posts in thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#26 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#30 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#31 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#32 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#35 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#36 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#37 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: The complete history of the IBM PC, part two: The DOS empire strikes; The real victor was Microsoft, which built an empire on the back of a shadily acquired MS-DOS Date: 10 Nov 2017 Blog: Facebookre:
all the original sql/relational was done on vm/145 at SJR. While IBM
was preoccupied with the official new DBMS "EAGLE", managed to do
System/R technology transfer to Endicott "under the radar" for SQL/DS
on both DOS/VSE and VM. When EAGLE implodes, there is request about
how fast could it be ported to MVS ... eventually coming out as DB2
for decision support *ONLY*. some posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr
more from 1995 SQL Reunion
http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/
a little EAGLE bashing
http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/SQL_Reunion_95/sqlr95-DB2.html
YKT also did QBE (query-by-example) for VM370. Old email about "father
of QBE and arch-enemy of System/R" doing QBE presentation at SJR
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#email800310
QBE ref:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Query_by_Example
note predating SQL & QBE were 4th generation languages developed on
CP67&VM370 for virtual machine based commercial online offerings. past
posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#online
Mathematica original did RAMIS and ran on NCSS ... (virtual machine)
CP67 spin-off from the IBM cambridge science center, some posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
then came FOCUS available on TYMSHARE (later vm370-based online
commercial system) ... and NCSS did NOMAD (as their own proprietary)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymshare
some online refs
http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/text/Oral_History/RAMIS_and_NOMAD/RAMIS_and_NOMAD.National_CSS.oral_history.2005.102658182.pdf
http://www.decosta.com/Nomad/
FOCUS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOCUS
FOCUS is a computer programming language and development
environment. It is a language used to build database queries, and is
regarded as a fourth-generation programming language (4GL). Produced
by Information Builders Inc., it was originally developed for data
handling and analysis on the IBM mainframe.
... snip ...
more NOMAD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomad_software
Martin provided a "dozen pages of COBOL, and then just a page or two
of Mark IV, from Informatics." Rawlings offered the following single
statement, performing a set-at-a-time operation, to show how trivial
this problem was with Nomad:
... snip ...
RAMIS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramis_software
RAMIS was initially developed in the mid 1960s by the company
MATHEMATICA on a consulting contract for a marketing study by a team
headed by Gerald Cohen and subsequently further developed and marketed
as a general purpose data management and analysis tool. In the late
1960s Cohen fell out with the management of MATHEMATICA and left to
form his own company. Soon thereafter his new company released a new
product called FOCUS which was very similar to RAMIS - even, it is
rumored, having some of the same bugs.
... snip ...
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers, comp.misc Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 09:45:32 -0800usenet@only.tnx (Questor) writes:
I got into this doing (unix) IBM's HA/CMP product and later with (unix-based) webservers when brought in as consultant at small client/server startup that wanted to do payment transactions on their server (they had also invented this technology they called "SSL", the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce"). There was all sorts of things that needed automation that had been part of IBM batch systems for years.
recent reference to my wife having done stint responsible for
loosely-coupled architecture (mainframe for cluster) but didn't stay
long ... in part because of little uptake (except for IMS hot-standby
... until sysplex & parallel sysplex years later).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#28 Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS
past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#shareddata
The guy responsible for one of the financial networks clearing large amounts of financial would like us to come by periodically to talk technology. He had attributed 100% availability for more than a decade to
1) replicated IMS hot-standby (at multiple geographically separated locations 2) automated operator
IMS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Information_Management_System
mentions large financial customer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Information_Management_System#Application
above also references pros/cons IMS versus DB2 ... which originated
by the STL IMS group in the 70s criticizing the original sql/relational
implementation System/R ... some posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr
had also run into this earlier when we were doing IBM's HA/CMP product
some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp
... when out doing marketing ... I had coined disaster survivability
(to differentiate from disaster recovery) and geographic survivability.
I had also been asked to write a section for the corporate continuous
availability strategy document ... however it got pulled when both
the rochester as/400 group and the POK mainframe group complained
that they couldn't (then) meet the requirements. some posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#available
trivia: this is reference to Jan1992 meeting in Ellison's conference
room on cluster scale-up.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13
two of the people mentioned in the meeting, later left Oracle and were at small client/server startup responsible for something called "commerce" server when we were brought in as consultants because they wanted to do payment transactions on the server.
other triva: around turn of the century there was joint project between m'soft and financial processing company to do online banking services outsourcing. When it was figured out that NT wouldn't handle the load and SUN servers would have to be used ... I got tagged to explain the matter to Microsoft chairman. The day before I was scheduled to go in, some of the business people decided that (instead) online load would be managed to what could be handled by NT ... and then scaled up as NT was enhanced to handle increasing load (so they wouldn't have to raise the issue with the microsoft chairman).
posts in thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#26 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#30 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#31 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#32 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#34 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#35 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#36 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#37 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#38 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: TYMSHARE @ CHM Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 10:23:44 -0800TYMSHARE @ CHM
In Aug1976, TYMSHARE made its VM370/CMS based online computer
conferencing system "free" to IBM mainframe user group "SHARE" as
"VMSHARE" .... archives here:
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare
sometimes(?) "404" ... but also at wayback machine
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/
trivia: I made deal with TYMSHARE to get dumped tape copy of all the VMSHARE files once a month for putting up on internal systems and the internal network. The biggest problem I had was with IBM lawyers who were concerned that IBM employees might be contaminated with information about customers.
more trivia: TYMSHARE had developed their own mainframe operating system
that was more tailored to commercial online service bureau, GNOSIS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOSIS
when M/D bought TYMSHARE, I was brought in to do a GNOSIS evaluation as
part of spinning it off
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KeyKOS
and
http://www.cap-lore.com/Agorics/Library/KeyKos/Gnosis/keywelcome.html
http://cap-lore.com/CapTheory/upenn/Gnosis/Gnosis.html
some follow-on work
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_Reliable_Operating_System
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CapROS
old VMSHARE related email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vmshare
internal network posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
virtual machine based commercial online posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#online
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers, comp.misc Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 12:03:20 -0800Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> writes:
part of old thread from 20yrs ago ... involved running some operations
at small/client server started that wanted to do payment transactions
on their server ... shell script ran sort where filled disk which
didn't reflect error and eventually resulted in loss of data
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/96.html#7 Why Do Mainframes Exist ???
in the commercial mainframe environment there is a lot of 7x24 procedural and automation infrastructure that has somewhat grown up thru trial and error over the past 30 years ... only some of it represented by hardware technology.
there is also a fundamental difference in a basicly "interactive" environment design point (where default tends to be having a person handle situations) and "batch" environment design point (where default tends to be automated applications handling situations and the corresponding instrumented infrastructure to support it).
a trivial example of infrastructure/design-point is what happens when a sort program runs out of temp space ... current os/mvs (as well as os/mft circa 1968) generates a specific error code for just about every condition ... and frequently there is an automated infrastructure that can handle each of the return codes and can take corrective/recovery action.
for how many of the newer operating systems is it possible to create a batch-procedure that based on sort utility return code ... recognize out of space condition and take automated corrective action?
there are some number of current commercial situations where the cost of a daily application failing once a year to not complete on schedule exceeds the cost of the hardware. more common is where the delta people costs that are involved in attempting to utilize an "interactive" operating system for a "batch" environment exceeds the cost of the hardware.
... snip ...
posts mentioning availability
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#available
posts mentioning assurance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#assurance
also my pontification about internet isn't business criticl dataprocessing (RFC Editor Postel, before he passed, used to let me help with periodic STD1 also sponsored my talk on internet isn't business critical dataprocessing at ISI & also invited USC computer graduate students) and turning well designed & tested application can take 4-10 times the effort to turn into business critical "service".
past posts mentioning the 4-10 times effort to turn well designed/tested
application into business critical "service":
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#75 Test and Set (TS) vs Compare and Swap (CS)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#91 Buffer overflow
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#93 Buffer overflow
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002n.html#11 Wanted: the SOUNDS of classic computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003g.html#62 IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#15 A Dark Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003p.html#37 The BASIC Variations
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#8 Mars Rover Not Responding
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#48 Automating secure transactions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004k.html#20 Vintage computers are better than modern crap !
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#49 "Perfect" or "Provable" security both crypto and non-crypto?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#23 Systems software versus applications software definitions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#63 Systems software versus applications software definitions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#64 Systems software versus applications software definitions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005b.html#40 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005i.html#42 Development as Configuration
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#26 Data communications over telegraph circuits
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#20 The System/360 Model 20 Wasn't As Bad As All That
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#37 Is computer history taught now?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#51 IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#78 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#10 The top 10 dead (or dying) computer skills
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#76 PSI MIPS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#77 PSI MIPS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#23 Outsourcing loosing steam?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#54 Industry Standard Time To Analyze A Line Of Code
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#53 folklore indeed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#41 IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#50 fraying infrastructure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#53 Why Is Less Than 99.9% Uptime Acceptable?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#33 Mainframe Project management
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#20 Michigan industry
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#35 Builders V. Breakers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#48 How much knowledge should a software architect have regarding software security?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#0 Is SUN going to become x86'ed ??
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#16 Far and near pointers on the 80286 and later
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#60 Far and near pointers on the 80286 and later
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#27 PDCA vs. OODA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#67 Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#44 Faster, Better, Cheaper: Why Not Pick All Three?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#31 DRAM is the new Bulk Core
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#13 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#86 Economic Failures of HTTPS Encryption
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#117 Are we programmed to stop at the 'first' right answer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#146 LEO
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#10 The real story of how the Internet became so vulnerable
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#16 The real story of how the Internet became so vulnerable
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#27 History of Mainframe Cloud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#23 MVS vs HASP vs JES (was 2821)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#18 progress in e-mail, such as AOL
other posts mentioning working with Postel:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#65 IBM100 - Rise of the Internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#10 The real story of how the Internet became so vulnerable
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#4 OODA in IT Security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#92 Old hardware
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#11 The Geniuses that Anticipated the Idea of the Internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#14 The Geniuses that Anticipated the Idea of the Internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#70 Domain Name System
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#75 11May1992 (25 years ago) press on cluster scale-up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#100 Jean Sammet, Co-Designer of a Pioneering Computer Language, Dies at 89
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#14 Mainframe Networking problems
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#31 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 13:19:54 -0800hancock4 writes:
we sent output from vm370 system in bldg 28 (san jose research) over the internal network to microfiche printer in bldg 26 (across the street on san jose plant site) and got 24hr turn around (output returned to the bldg. 28 datacenter printer output area)
home office circa 1977 with ibm tie-line, 300 baud cdi miniterm and
compact microfiche viewer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/miniterm.jpg
ref my wife was in JES group and one of the catchers for ASP, turning
into JES3.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#40 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
jes2/jes3 reference
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_Entry_Subsystem_2/3
JES3 Main Device Setup (MDS) has more control over data sets shared
between systems than JES2, and JES3 Dependent Job Control (DJC) has more
provisions for scheduling jobs with dependencies on each other than
JES2. With the widespread use of sophisticated job scheduling software,
DJC has become less important.
... snip ...
JES3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_Entry_Subsystem_2/3#JES3
ASP evolved from the design of the 7094/7044 Direct Coupled System,
using data channel to data channel communication. By attaching an IBM
7044 as a peripheral processor throughput was more than doubled.
... snip ...
past home office with microfiche viewer refs/posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#38 Baudot code direct to computers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#51 Baudot code direct to computers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#30 Timeline: 40 years of OS milestones
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#45 Netbooks: A terminal by any other name
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#75 IBM and the Computer Revolution
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#34 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#16 Unbuffered glass TTYs?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#21 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#101 You count as an old-timer if (was Re: Origin of the phrase "XYZZY")
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#3 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#42 Old Computing
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Security Breach and Spilled Secrets Have Shaken the N.S.A. to Its Core Date: 12 Nov 2017 Blog: FacebookSecurity Breach and Spilled Secrets Have Shaken the N.S.A. to Its Core
spies like us (outsourcing 70% of the budget and over half the people
to "for profit" companies, cutting lots of corners to increase profit)
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us
helping accelerating the rapidly spreading success of failure culture (series of failures is more profit)
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/
success of failure posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failuree
and cyber dumb
Confidential report lists U.S. weapons system designs compromised by Chinese cyberspies
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/confidential-report-lists-us-weapons-system-designs-compromised-by-chinese-cyberspies/2013/05/27/a42c3e1c-c2dd-11e2-8c3b-0b5e9247e8ca_story.html
REPORT: Chinese Hackers Stole Plans For Dozens Of Critical US Weapons Systems
http://www.businessinsider.com/china-hacked-us-military-weapons-systems-2013-5
A list of the U.S. weapons designs and technologies compromised by hackers
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/a-list-of-the-us-weapons-designs-and-technologies-compromised-by-hackers/2013/05/27/a95b2b12-c483-11e2-9fe2-6ee52d0eb7c1_story.html
Report: China gained U.S. weapons secrets using cyberespionage
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/28/world/asia/china-cyberespionage/
cyber dumb posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#3 Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#47 Stolen F-35 Secrets Now Showing Up in China's Stealth Fighter
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#49 Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#0 Deep State: Inside the Government Secrecy Industry
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#32 The dark side of digital banking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#82 The NSA and Snowden: Securing the All-Seeing Eye
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#90 A Drone Could Be the Ultimate Dogfighter
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#18 After the Sun (Microsystems) Sets, the Real Stories Come Out
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#25 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#31 The Designer Of The F-15 Explains Just How Stupid The F-35 Is
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#49 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#90 Friden Flexowriter equipment series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#12 Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#20 US No Longer Tech Leader in Military War Gear
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#22 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#23 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#28 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#34 UN to Five Eyes nations: Your mass surveillance is breaking the law
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#65 New Military Gear Doesn't Have to Cost a Fortune
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#102 A-10 Warthog No Longer Suitable for Middle East Combat, Air Force Leader Says
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#8 Super Cane's Computers run Windows
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#32 Univac 90 series info posted on bitsavers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#43 Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#45 Is coding the new literacy?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#76 No Internet. No Microsoft Windows. No iPods. This Is What Tech Was Like In 1984
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#6 No Internet. No Microsoft Windows. No iPods. This Is What Tech Was Like In 1984
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#10 NYT on Sony hacking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#11 NYT on Sony hacking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#55 Do we really?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#75 How Russia's S-400 makes the F-35 obsolete
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#9 Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#20 Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#21 Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#34 The joy of simplicity?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#42 No, the F-35 Can't Fight at Long Range, Either
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#75 American Gripen: The Solution To The F-35 Nightmare
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#4 Cyberdumb
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#8 Cyberdumb
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#19 Does Cybercrime Really Cost $1 Trillion?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#20 DEC and The Americans
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#91 Computers anyone?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#95 Computers anyone?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#17 Cybercrime
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#38 [BBC] US nuclear force 'still uses floppy disks'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#104 E.R. Burroughs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#104 How to Win the Cyberwar Against Russia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#17 Why Large Companies Can't Innovate
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#0 Snowden
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#28 China's spies gain valuable US defense technology: report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#40 The F-22 Raptor Is the World's Best Fighter (And It Has a Secret Weapon That Is Out in the Open)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#67 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#76 The F-35 Stealth Fighter Is Politically Unstoppable----Even Under President Trump
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#62 Big Shrink to "Hire" 25,000 in the US, as Layoffs Pile Up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#15 China's claim it has 'quantum' radar may leave $17 billion F-35 naked
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#34 CBS News: WikiLeaks claims to release thousands of CIA documents of computer activity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#47 WikiLeaks CIA Dump: Washington's Data Security Is a Mess
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#50 A flaw in the design; The Internet's founders saw its promise but didn't foresee users attacking one another
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#73 More Cyberdumb
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#77 Time to sack the chief of computing in the NHS?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#86 Time to sack the chief of computing in the NHS?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#78 This Afghan War Plan By The Guy Who Founded Blackwater Should Scare The Hell Out Of You
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#51 Russian Hackers Stole NSA Data on U.S. Cyber Defense
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#56 China's mega fortress in Djibouti could be model for its bases in Pakistan
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#78 F-35 Multi-Role
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Debate Over Ken Burns Civil War Doc Continues Over Decades Date: 12 Nov 2017 Blog: FacebookDebate Over Ken Burns Civil War Doc Continues Over Decades
Generals South, Generals North: The Commanders of the Civil War
Reconsidered
https://www.amazon.com/Generals-South-North-Commanders-Reconsidered-ebook/dp/B012A1WML6/
loc1837-39:
And the general Sherman most feared and hated, Nathan Bedford Forrest,
the man he called a "devil" and the commander he considered more
dangerous than any other in the South, had his own single-sentence
definition of war: "War means fighting, and fighting means killing."
... snip ...
past references to Generals South/North:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#45 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#92 "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#55 Comanche Empire
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: How Economists Turned Corporations into Predators Date: 12 Nov 2017 Blog: FacebookHow Economists Turned Corporations into Predators
Economists and the Powerful: Convenient Theories, Distorted Facts, Ample Rewards
https://www.amazon.com/Economists-Powerful-Convenient-Distorted-Economics-ebook/dp/B01B4X4KOS/
pg127/loc2480-82:
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the
world. Shareholder value is a result, not a strategy… Your main
constituencies are your employees, your customers and your
products. —Jack Welch, 2009
... snip ...
Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970
to the Present
https://www.amazon.com/Age-Greed-Triumph-Finance-ebook/dp/B004DEPF6I/
pg199/loc3909-13:
GE Capital also enabled GE to manage its quarterly earnings, engaging
in the last couple of weeks of every calendar quarter in various
trades that could push earnings up on the last day or two before the
quarter's end. It was an open secret on Wall Street that this was how
Welch consistently kept quarterly earnings rising for years at a
time. "Though earnings management is a no-no among good governance
types," wrote two CNNMoney financial editors, "the company has never
denied doing it, and GE Capital is the perfect mechanism."
pg200/loc3925-30:
The CNNMoney writers got it slightly wrong. GE was not exactly like
the American economy. It was even more dependent on financial
services. In the early 2000s, GE was again riding a financial wave,
the subprime mortgage lending boom; it had even bought a subprime
mortgage broker. GE borrowed still more against equity to exploit the
remarkable opportunities, its triple-A rating giving it a major
competitive advantage. By 2008, the central weakness of the Welch
business strategy, its dependence on financial overspeculation, became
ominously clear. GE's profits plunged during the credit crisis and its
stock price fell by 60 percent. GE Capital, the main source of its
success for twenty-five years, now reported enormous losses
pg200/pg3935-41:
He mostly stopped trying to create great new products, hence the
reduction in R&D. He took the heart out of his businesses, he did not
put it in, as he had always hoped to do. What made his strategy
possible, and fully shaped it, was the rising stock market--and the
new ideology that praised free markets even as they failed.
... snip ...
Why the "Maximizing Shareholder Value" Theory of Corporate Governance
is Bogus
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/10/why-the-maximizing-shareholder-value-theory-of-corporate-governance-is-bogus.html
One mantra you see regularly in the business and popular press goes
something along the lines of "the CEO and board have a fiduciary duty
to maximize shareholder value." That is untrue. Moreover, the
widespread acceptance of that false notion has done considerable harm.
If you review any of the numerous guides prepared for directors of
corporations prepared by law firms and other experts, you won't find a
stipulation for them to maximize shareholder value on the list of
things they are supposed to do. It's not a legal requirement. And
there is a good reason for that.
Directors and officers, broadly speaking, have a duty of care and duty
of loyalty to the corporation. From that flow more specific
obligations under Federal and state law. But notice: those
responsibilities are to the corporation, not to shareholders in
particular.
... snip ...
"economic mess" posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#economic.mess
stock buybacks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#stock.buybacks
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: America's Over-Hyped Strategic Bombing Experiment Date: 13 Nov 2017 Blog: FacebookAmerica's Over-Hyped Strategic Bombing Experiment
"Beetle: The Life of General Walter Bedell Smith" references the
problems on Omaha Beach, pg628/loc12403-5:
Although things went unpredictably well at Utah, the American assault
units on Omaha succeeded in carving out only a dangerously thin
beachhead by early evening. With their coastal fortifications
breached, the Germans methodically triggered their defense plans,
which chiefly meant shifting reserves from one sector to another.
pg628/loc12411-12:
Serious holes remained between the sectors, particularly on either
side of Omaha Beach.
... snip ...
"The European Campaign: Its Origins and Conduct" (no precision
strategic bombing), loc2582-85:
The bomber preparation of Omaha Beach was a total failure, and German
defenses on Omaha Beach were intact as American troops came ashore. At
Utah Beach, the bombers were a little more effective because the IXth
Bomber Command was using B-26 medium bombers. Wisely, in preparation
for supporting the invasion, maintenance crews removed Norden
bombsights from the bombers and installed the more effective low-level
altitude sights.
... snip ...
GAO Desert Storm Air Power report has tactical air campaign (only last 100hrs were land war) so effective that Iraqis were walking away from their tanks (as sitting ducks) ... the later land war tank battles (with little or no coalition damage) doesn't mention whether the enemy tanks had anybody home. Claim is that for Iraq2, enemy had learned from Iraq1 to minimize exposure to US (tactical) air power.
Two-thirds of total US WW2 war spending went to air program. There were voices claiming that 1943 US strategic bombing program could win the war by itself (w/o having to invade Europe). They also insisted that all the money go to heavy strategic bombers and that long-range fighter escort wasn't needed. The British argued with them that the Germans had learned that lesson in the battle for britain ... but the US insisted on (re-)learning that lesson the hard way. As referenced in the failure of Omaha beach bombing ... high altitude precision bombing was a myth. There is some implication that lack of precision bombing helps account for strategic bombing switching to fire bombing cities (much harder to miss a whole city). McNamara was LeMay's staff blanning firebombing Gerrman and Japanese cities. After the war, leaves for auto industry but comes back as SECDEF for Vietnam where Laos becomes the most bombed country in the year (more tonnage than Germany and Japan combined).
MIC(C) past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
past posts referencing Bedell Smith and/or European Campaign
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#52 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#53 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#69 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#70 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#84 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#85 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#60 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#61 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#62 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#64 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#13 Fully Restored WWII Fighter Plane Up for Auction
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#120 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#77 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#80 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#88 "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#117 E.R. Burroughs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#56 "One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#64 Strategic Bombing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#24 US Air Power
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#63 America's Over-Hyped Strategic Bombing Experiment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#34 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#80 "I used a real computer at home...and so will you" (Popular Science May 1967)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#3 Dunkirk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#38 Imperial Hubris
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#69 The knives are out for Trump's national security adviser H.R. McMaster
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#55 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#61 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#77 Early use of word "computer", 1944
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#53 Dunkirk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#99 The Real Reason You Should See Dunkirk: Hitler Lost World War II There
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#3 Dunkirk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#21 Norden bombsight
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#36 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: How DARPA, The Secretive Agency That Invented The Internet, Is Working To Reinvent It Date: 13 Nov 2017 Blog: Facebookre:
part of the online computer conferencing ... from IBMJARGON
Tandem Memos - n. Something constructive but hard to control; a fresh
of breath air (sic). That's another Tandem Memos. A phrase to worry
middle management. It refers to the computer-based conference (widely
distributed in 1981) in which many technical personnel expressed
dissatisfaction with the tools available to them at that time, and
also constructively criticized the way products were [are]
developed. The memos are required reading for anyone with a serious
interest in quality products. If you have not seen the memos, try
reading the November 1981 Datamation summary.
... snip ...
Datamation put a slightly different spin on it, Emmett, R. 1981, "VNET
or gripenet?" Datamation, Vol. 27, No. 12 (November), pp.48-58. Lots
of online citations but web search doesn't turn up copy. They garbled
it with the "gripenet" bit ... however, end of the article (pg58):
There is a rumor that Wheeler may leave IBM and join his former
colleagues on the outside as consultant. "Right now he's pure gold
whatever way you slice him up," says one source. "IBM needs him and
the outside companies would probably pay anything to get him."
However you look at this tug of war, it can only be good news for
IBM's VM users. "An enormous shop window is opening for them." said
one observer. "And what they'll discover in that window is a very
powerful tool to control their own destinies--and not have IBM do it."
... snip ...
internet posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internet
CMC posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#cmc
old post includes intro to the summaries
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002k.html#39 Vnet : Unbelievable
recent posts mentioning "Tandem Memos"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#39 The Pentagon still uses computer software from 1958 to manage its contracts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#84 Hottest Editors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#97 IBM revenue has fallen for 20 quarters -- but it used to run its business very differently
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#105 The IBM 7094 and CTSS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#33 Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#51 Stopping the Internet of noise
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#55 Stopping the Internet of noise
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#56 What is the most epic computer glitch you have ever seen?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#67 What is the most epic computer glitch you have ever seen?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#94 AI Is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#96 IBM Another Disappointment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#7 Tandem Memos
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#29 Google Employee's Anti-Diversity Manifesto Goes 'Internally Viral'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#36 IBM Shareholders Need Employee Enthusiasm, Engagemant And Passions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#38 Bullying trivia
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 17:02:50 -0800hancock4 writes:
The rise of machine shops and their specific manufacturing and organizational problems triggered the early job shop management pioneers, whose theories became known with as scientific management.
Job Shop
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_shop
even pre-360 computer ... might have job slips that includes tapes (and/or disks) that needed to be mounted as part of execution ... an/or special printer forms (akin to machine shop job setup).
then increasing amount of job slip setup moved to JCL. post mentioning
JCL, job scheduling
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#37 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
post mentioning precursor to (360) JES3/ASP ... precursor was 7094/7044
direct couple system
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#43 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
my first student data processing job was to rewrite 1401 MPIO for 360/30. The univ. had 709/1401 with 1401 doing tape<->printer/unit record frontend with manual moving tapes between 709 & 1401. The 1401 was replaced with 360/30 as part of transition from 709/1401 to 360/67 and TSS/360. TSS/360 never quite made production quality so the 360/67 was used (mostly) as 360/65 running os/360.
some recent 709/1401/MPIO posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#50 Univ. 709
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#36 MVS vs HASP vs JES (was 2821)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#20 Programmers Who Use Spaces Paid More
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#49 System/360--detailed engineering description (AFIPS 1964)
some drift, (also) as undergraduate in the 60s, I rewrote (virtual
machine) CP67 scheduling ("dynamic adaptive resource management", as
well as lots of other parts of CP67) ... some past scheduling posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#fairshare
in the product morph of cp67 to vm370, lots of features from cp67 were
dropped and/or simplified. old email about moving lots of stuff from
cp67 to vm370
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email731212
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750102
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430
this was during the Future System period which was going to completely
replace 370 with something differrent ... and internal politics were
shutting down 370 efforts (also blameed for clone 370 processor makers
getting market foothold). During the period I would periodically
ridicule what they were doing (which wasn't exactly career enhancing
activity). some futuresys posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
in the wake of future system failure there was mad rush to get stuff
back into 370 product pipelines. This included kicking off 3033 & 3081
(370/xa) efforts in parallel ... a reference:
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm
23june1969 unbundling announcement started to charge for SE services,
maintenance, software, etc (but they managed to make the case that
kernel/system software should still be free). some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle
After the failure of FS (and the rise of clone processors), there was decision to starting to charge for system software. This was incremental as parts of new software was added to existing kernel software ... until all kernel software was free. The initial guinea pig was my resource manager ... reintroduced as separate priced product addon.
other posts in this thread
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#26 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#30 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#31 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#32 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#34 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#35 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#36 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#38 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#40 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#42 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The Windows 95 chime was created on a Mac Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 09:08:25 -0800Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
the ref in above post gone 404 ... but lives on at wayback machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20050402185119/http://www.ncw.wsu.edu/treefruit/blomdeg5.html
The 1922 to present "official" bloom date site is the WSU Tree Fruit
Research and Extension Center in Wenatchee. Red Delicious trees here
have a historical average bloom date of April 29, 3 - 4 days later than
at the early sites near Wenatchee, and about 7 days earlier than apples
at the Airport. Bloom seems to be occurring ever-earlier over the past 15
years.
... snip ...
found current web page
http://treefruit.wsu.edu/news/full-bloom-dates-for-red-delicious-apples/
Daily high temperatures are used to predict bloom based on degree days
(DD) above 43degrees. As of April 27, Bloom DD in Wenatchee (TFREC)
were 778 DD and 902 DD in Mattawa which predict first pink and full
pink. Actual maturity is first bloom in Wenatchee on the TFREC sentinel
trees. 920 DD predict full bloom. This is significantly later than 2016
where Wenatchee was already at full bloom April 9. However, this is only
slightly behind the long term average with full bloom at April 27 in
Wenatchee. As always look at the trees. Models are never perfect.
... snip ...
other articles reference variation because of micro-climates in Wenatchee valley.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: IBM 1403 Printer Characters Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 09:26:19 -0800Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> writes:
the above have some of the IBM pages non-1403 ... but just about all the rest are 1403.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Einhorn: "None Of The Problems From The Financial Crisis Have Been Solved" Date: 16 Nov 2017 Blog: FacebookEinhorn: "None Of The Problems From The Financial Crisis Have Been Solved"
last year this date
Fed's Kashkari Releases Plan To End Too Big To Fail, Compares
Banks To Terrorists
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-16/feds-kashkari-releases-plan-end-too-big-fail-compares-banks-terrorists
economic mess posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#economic.mess
ZIRP posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#zirp
Too Big To Fail posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: IBM 1403 Printer Characters Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:35:47 -0800hancock4 writes:
big difference with printed output of ADT macro ... file pg227 (document pg216). Finished printing would use TN train/chain with high quality "film" ribbon (letter edges were crisper). The macro output looks like standard upper case only train/chain with standard fabric ribbon.
mentions (fabric) ribbons repeatedly reused
http://ibm-1401.info/1403Ribbons.html
film ribbons one time use
http://ibm-1401.info/1403Ribbons.html#FilmRibbons
quicky search web references on 1403 font
http://ibm-1401.info/1403Fonts.html
https://slantedhall.com/fonts/1403
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Testing Progressives, Centrist Dems Team Up with GOP to Deregulate Banks Date: 17 Nov 2017 Blog: FacebookTesting Progressives, Centrist Dems Team Up with GOP to Deregulate Banks
A Week After Virginia Election Sweep, Democrats Join Republicans for
More Bank Deregulation
https://theintercept.com/2017/11/14/bank-deregulation-bipartisan-senate-equifax/
The Senate Is Getting Ready to Erode Obama's Landmark Wall Street Law
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/11/the-senate-is-getting-ready-to-erode-obamas-landmark-wall-street-law/
Trump, Wall Street and the "banking caucus" ready to rip apart Dodd-Frank
https://www.publicintegrity.org/2017/02/01/20645/trump-wall-street-and-banking-caucus-ready-rip-apart-dodd-frank
Trump Begins Assault on Dodd-Frank Financial Regulations
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/03/business/dealbook/trump-congress-financial-regulations.html
It became clear (to me) in the spring of 2009 that congress had no intention of doing anything substantive about wall street. January, 2009 I was asked to HTMLize(/web pages) the Pecora Hearings (30s congressional hearings into '29 crash, resulted in Glass-Steagall and criminal convictions with jailtime) with lots of internal HREFs and URLs between what happened then and what happened this time (comments that the new congress might have the appetite to do something). I work on it for awhile and then get a call that it won't be needed after all (references to enormous mountains of wallstreet cash totally burying capital hill).
Pecora Hearings and/or Glass-Steagall posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
there is: "Confidence Men" pg430:
But they were fighting on too many fronts. Carl Levin of Michigan and
Jeff Merkley of Oregon had discovered that Dodd had discreetly gutted
the Volcker Rule, and the two set to work trying to counteract Dodd's
efforts. The Merkley-Levin Amendment articulated Volcker's idea fully
-- and wrote it as law. No regulatory backsliding, once everything
settled down.
... and "Age of Greed" pg370:
In addition, the Justice Department was now investigating reduced rate
mortgages Mozilo allegedly sold to Senators Chris Dodd of Connecticut
and Kent Conrad of North Dakota, as well as two former heads of Fannie
Mae, Jim Johnson and Franklin Raines. They were known as "Friends of
Angelo."
... snip ...
Angelo, #1 on times list of those responsible for the economic
mess/financial crisis
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877339,00.html
How Wall Street Killed Financial Reform; It's bad enough that the
banks strangled the Dodd-Frank law. Even worse is the way they did it
- with a big assist from Congress and the White House
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-wall-street-killed-financial-reform-20120510
How Wall Street Defanged Dodd-Frank; Battalions of regulatory lawyers
burrowed deep in the federal bureaucracy to foil reform.
http://www.thenation.com/article/174113/how-wall-street-defanged-dodd-frank
Josh Rosner on How Dodd Frank Institutionalizes Too Big to Fail
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/05/josh-rosner-on-how-dodd-frank-institutionalizes-too-big-to-fail.html
Rosner focuses on Articles I and II of Dodd Frank and describes how
their plans to deal with resolving large firms has only made matters
worse. It' s key to understand that these two sections are somewhat at
odds with each other. Dodd Frank peculiarly provides for two ways to
wind up systemically important firms. Title I says they should prepare
for bankruptcy. They need to clean up how they are organized and make
sure activities fit or can be mapped into legal entities and prepare
living wills, which are plans for how they would wind themselves
up. But confusingly, banks can also be "resolved" which is more like
"rescued with a little pain inflicted on investors" under Title
II. Title II provides for a second way to deal with stressed financial
firms, which includes having the government provide what amounts to
debtor-in-possession financing while the bank is restructured. This,
sports fans, is what is otherwise known as a bailout.
... snip ...
Are Treasury and the Fed at Odds Over Big Banks? Treasury Secretary
Lew keeps hands off as Wall Street giants grow larger.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/are-treasury-and-the-fed-at-odds-over-big-banks-20130524
But at his 2010 Senate confirmation hearing to become head of Office
of Management and Budget, Lew also indicated that he didn't consider
the deregulation of Wall Street to be a "proximate" cause of the
financial crisis --an answer that put him at odds with his boss, who
declared as a presidential candidate in 2008: "It's because of
deregulation that Wall Street was able to engage in the kind of
irresponsible actions that have caused this financial crisis."
... snip ...
Gretchen Morgenson on Why Banks Are Still Too Big To Fail
http://billmoyers.com/segment/gretchen-morgenson-on-why-banks-are-still-too-big-to-fail/
Dodd-Frank set up a system to unwind troubled institutions when they
become troubled. But it requires regulators taking a really firm stand
against large, politically-interconnected, and powerful companies
... I just think it's too easy to put the taxpayer on the hook and
bail these people out
... snip ..
Deja Vu on the Hill: Wall Street Lobbyists Roll Back Finance Reform,
Again
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/deja-vu-on-the-hill-wall-street-lobbyists-roll-back-finance-reform-again-20130521
Bank Lobbyists Writing the Rules for Wall Street
http://www.pogo.org/blog/2013/05/bank-lobbyists-writing-the-rules-for-wall-street.html
Banks' Lobbyists Help in Drafting Financial Bills
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/05/23/banks-lobbyists-help-in-drafting-financial-bills/
Bank Lobbyists Writing the Rules for Wall Street
http://www.pogo.org/blog/2013/05/bank-lobbyists-writing-the-rules-for-wall-street.html
some of the ploys involved in Dodd-Frank, email was uncovered that wallstreet lobbyists were providing provisions to be included in the Dodd-Frank draft. In some cases, they were blatant ridiculous, the added provisions would leak and then the same lobbyists would ridicule the provisions as part of discrediting the process. In other cases the provided provisions were enormously complex or fatally flawed, guaranteeing that it would take years attempting (or impossible) to come up with regulations. Part of the facade for letting wallstreet write provisions was that they were the only ones that understood their complex financial operations.
"economic mess" posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#economic.mess
Too Big To Fail posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
(Triple-A rated) toxic CDOs posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
regulatory capture posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#regulatory.capture
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The Windows 95 chime was created on a Mac Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 11:07:49 -0800Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2017 10:25:22 -0800Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
some of the things Miles complained about, Stilwell and the American
Experience in China: 1911-1945
https://www.amazon.com/Stilwell-American-Experience-China-1911-1945-ebook/dp/B00KUQITNE/
loc3439-40:
Familiar with the plight of the Chinese peasant and unfamiliar with
Marxism, Stilwell regarded the Communists as a local phenomenon and a
natural outcome of oppression.
loc3444-46:
This analysis was a normal one of the time. Foreigners who would have
considered Communists at home a vicious menace looked on them locally as
an indigenous product of the ancient wrongs of China and as reformers
who were trying to do something about it; "not Communists at all," as
Consul Jarvis said to Stilwell.
... snip ...
other recent posts referencing "A Different Kind of War"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#18 5 Naval Battles That Changed History Forever
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#105 Iraq, Longest War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#68 Ghost Riders of Baghdad: Soldiers, Civilians, and the Myth of the Surge
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#75 WW II cryptography
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#24 What if the Kuomintang Had Won the Chinese Civil War?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: About Unconventional warfare Date: 18 Nov 2017 Blog: FacebookMiles puts blame on OSS & Wedemeyer/Army (had been marshall's staff, then Marshall supported Wedemeyer) ... already had given China to Communists before end of WW2. OSS and Army factions can't wrest control of interface w/Nationalists from the Navy, so they setup with the communists (which they can claim sole credit) and do whatever they can to undermine the Navy. Lots in chapter "Wedemeyer Takes Over" pgs433-455 and SACO Deadend Kids Take The Coast, pg492-521
Marine's account of SACO & (US/nationalist) guerilla operations
https://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/2009/11/marines-china
from above:
The SACO Agreement of 1943 called for the Navy to arm and train in
excess of 50,000 Chinese guerrillas, known as the Loyal Patriotic
Army, and to establish and maintain 1 5 training camps. Except for the
several Marines who were coast watchers, all other Marines were
involved in guerrilla training at the 15 established training camps
located from the edges of the Gobi Desert to the Japanese occupied
coast, almost within sight of Shanghai, the lights of which could be
seen from the SACO guerrilla training camp on a clear night. Marines
operated with small guerrilla units as American advisers, living with
the Chinese troops in the field, eating the same chow as the Chinese
guerrillas, and walking miles and miles through Japanese occupied
territory.
... snip ...
other recent posts referencing "A Different Kind of War":
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#105 Iraq, Longest War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#68 Ghost Riders of Baghdad: Soldiers, Civilians, and the Myth of the Surge
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#24 What if the Kuomintang Had Won the Chinese Civil War?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#36 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#56 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Wall Street Wants to Kill the Agency Protecting Americans From Financial Scams Date: 18 Nov 2017 Blog: FacebookWall Street Wants to Kill the Agency Protecting Americans From Financial Scams
Bad Ideas; Reknowned economist James K. Galbraith, one of our expert
panelists, pulls no punches in talking about the damage wrought by
financial innovation
https://www.gfmag.com/magazine/june-2017/bad-ideas
I could point to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. It provides
at least one place in the government that is supposed to be looking at
financial innovations with a skeptical eye. In my view, innovation in
the financial sector is designed to get around public purpose.
... snip ...
posts mentioning economic mess
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#economic.mess
recent posts mentioning "bad-ideas" article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#1 OT: book: "Capital in the Twenty-First Century"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#19 Financial, Healthcare, Construction, Education complexity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#49 Shareholders Ahead Of Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#79 Bad Ideas
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#1 OT: book: "Capital in the Twenty-First Century"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#116 The Real Reason Wages Have Stagnated: Our Economy Is Optimized For Financialization
recent posts mentioning Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#95 Trump, Wall Street and the "banking caucus" ready to rip apart Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#96 Trump, Wall Street and the "banking caucus" ready to rip apart Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#87 Dodd-Frank Was Designed to Fail - and Trump Will Make it Worse
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#85 How can we stop algorithms telling lies?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#106 Jamie Dimon: You Make Us Embarrassed to be Americans
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#108 Jamie Dimon: You Make Us Embarrassed to be Americans
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#101 The Payoff: Why Wall Street Always Wins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#108 Iraq, Longest War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#38 Bullying trivia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#47 Retirement Heist: How Firms Plunder Workers' Nest Eggs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#72 When Working From Home Doesn't Work
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#54 Testing Progressives, Centrist Dems Team Up with GOP to Deregulate Banks
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Wall Street Wants to Kill the Agency Protecting Americans From Financial Scams Date: 18 Nov 2017 Blog: Facebookre:
Treasury slams CFPB rule that empowers class-action suits against
Equifax, Wells Fargo, others
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/treasury-slams-cfpb-rule-that-empowers-class-action-suits-against-equifax-wells-fargo-others-2017-10-23
'What in God's name were you thinking?' senators grill Wells Fargo CEO
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/what-in-gods-name-were-you-thinking-senators-grill-wells-ceo-2017-10-03
SEC fines Wells Fargo Advisors for failing to report on money laundering
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/sec-fines-wells-fargo-advisers-for-failing-to-report-on-money-laundering-2017-11-14
too big to fail posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
money laundering posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The Windows 95 chime was created on a Mac Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 12:34:49 -0800Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
Rhetoric on flr of congress was that Sarbanes-Oxley would prevent future
ENRONs and guarantee executives and auditors did jail time, but it
required SEC to do something. Possibly because even GAO didn't believe
SEC was doing anything, it started doing reports of public company
fraudulent financial filings, even showing increase after SOX goes
into effect (and nobody doing jailtime) ... past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud.fraud
Sarbanes-Oxley posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
enron posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
this is interview about illegal activity goes on all the time and nobody
has to worry about SEC (before HFT really kicks in)
http://nypost.com/2007/03/20/cramer-reveals-a-bit-too-much/
In the congressional Madoff hearings they had person that had tried
unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff.
Congress asked him if new regulations were needed. He replied that
while new regulations might be needed, much more important would
be transparency and visibility (possibly since SEC wasn't doing
anything anyway) ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff
HFT then really starts to kick in ... and frequenctly used to
further obfuscate illegal activity. a number of more recent
HFT posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#89 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#65 Royal Pardon For Turing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#93 New York seeks curbs on high-frequency trading
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#18 FBI Investigates High-Speed Trading
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#60 FBI Investigates High-Speed Trading
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#71 FBI Investigates High-Speed Trading
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#72 Three Expensive Milliseconds
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#3 Three Expensive Milliseconds
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#20 HFT, computer trading
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#41 System Response
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#1 HFT is harmful, say US market participants
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#64 HFT is harmful, say US market participants
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#107 The SEC's Mary Jo White Punts on High Frequency Trading and Abandons Securities Act of 1934
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#109 SEC Caught Dark Pool and High Speed Traders Doing Bad Stuff
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#64 Dark Pool Greed Drove Barclays to Lie to Clients, N.Y. Says
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#58 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#26 What were the complaints of binary code programmers that not accept Assembly?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#17 Robots have been running the US stock market, and the government is finally taking control
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#58 Time to Fire Mary Jo White: SEC Covers Up for Bank Capital Accounting Scam Promoted by Her Former Firm, Debevoise
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#48 seveneves
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#66 Michael Hudson's New Book: Wall Street Parasites Have Devoured Their Hosts -- Your Retirement Plan and the U.S. Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#23 It A "Liquidity Mirage": New York Fed Finally Grasps How Broken The Market Is Due To HFTs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#68 Eric Hunsader Explains To CNBC That "Markets Are Always Rigged"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#18 Bundesbank Confirms HFTs Reduce Liquidity, Contribute To Flash Crashes, Withdraw At Times Of "Market Stress"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#22 How do BIG WEBSITES work?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#23 How do BIG WEBSITES work?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: What if the Kuomintang Had Won the Chinese Civil War? Date: 21 Nov 2017 Blog: Facebookre:
from another stand point ... Volcker is in discussions with civil engineering professor, for at least past several decades, fed, state & local governments have been skimming/siphoning money from maintaining infrastructures ... this is resulted in lack of infrastructure projects needing civil engineers, lack of jobs has discouraged students from civil engineering programs, lack of students have institutions eliminating programs and professors.
Confidence Men: Wall Street, Washington, and the Education of a
President, Volcker quote,
https://www.amazon.com/Confidence-Men-Washington-Education-ebook/dp/B0089LOKKS/
pg290:
Well, I said, 'The trouble with the United States recently is we spent
several decades not producing many civil engineers and producing a
huge number of financial engineers. And the result is s**tty bridges
and a s**tty financial system!
... snip ...
The previous administration had stimulus funds for infrastructure projects. From the laws of unintended consequences, from what stimulus funds that did make it into infrastructure projects (that didn't get skimmed/siphoned off) resulted in the projects having to hire Chinese firms in order to get civil engineers.
American Society Civil Engineer infrastructure report card.
https://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/
past refs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#67 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#73 A question for the readership
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#74 Derivatives and free trade
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#79 Financial Crimes Bedevil Prosecutors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#83 Heading For World War III | Gerald Celente Trends Blog
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#88 Fed Report Finds Speculators Played Big Role in Housing Collapse
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#91 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#17 What's your favorite quote on "accountability"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#44 Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#47 Avoiding a lost decade
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#11 The PC industry is heading for collapse
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#43 Where are all the old tech workers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#47 Where are all the old tech workers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#63 The Economist's Take on Financial Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#13 The White House and Mortgage Fraud: So Far It's All Talk, No Action
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#66 Predator GE: We Bring Bad Things to Life
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#67 Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#83 Why Can't Obama Bring Wall Street to Justice?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#16 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#30 24/7/365 appropriateness was Re: IBMLink outages in 2012
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#48 Owl: China Swamps US Across the Board -- Made in China Computer Chips Have Back Doors, 45 Other "Ways & Means" Sucking Blood from US
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#25 US economic update. Everything that follows is a result of what you see here
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#31 How do you feel about the fact that today India has more IBM employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#77 Interesting News Article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#1 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#6 Good article. Friday discussion type
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#86 Study: One in Five Firms Misrepresent Earnings
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#36 Race Against the Machine
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#40 Core characteristics of resilience
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#79 Romney and Ryan's Phony Deficit-Reduction Plan
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#48 The Payoff: Why Wall Street Always Wins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#53 CALCULATORS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#64 Singer Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#61 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#29 Jedi Knights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#57 Bull by the Horns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#3 OT: Tax breaks to Oracle debated
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#60 Choice of Mary Jo White to Head SEC Puts Fox In Charge of Hen House
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#66 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#66 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#33 War or Jobs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#105 only sometimes From looms to computers to looms
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#106 only sometimes From looms to computers to looms
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#80 HP splits, again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#75 LEO
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#48 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#4 Decimal point character and billions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#50 A National Infrastructure Program Is a Smart Idea We Won't Do Because We Are Dysfunctional
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#17 Destruction of the Middle Class
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#2 Trump is taking the wrong approach to China on tech, says ex-Reagan official who helped beat Soviets
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#72 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#79 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#47 The rise and fall of IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#2 Trump is taking the wrong approach to China on tech, says ex-Reagan official who helped beat Soviets
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#101 The Payoff: Why Wall Street Always Wins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#108 Iraq, Longest War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#1 Any definitive reference for why the PDP-11 was little-endian?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#60 When Working From Home Doesn't Work
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: What if the Kuomintang Had Won the Chinese Civil War? Date: 21 Nov 2017 Blog: Facebookre:
along with the propaganda campaign to equate capitalism with Christianity (blamed for depression and then many individuals, industries, and corporations supporting Hitler and Nazis up through early 40s),
i.e. 5000 industrialists from across the US had conference (also) at
NYC Waldorf-Astoria and in part because they had gotten such bad
reputation for the depression and supporting Nazi Germany, they
approved a major propaganda campaign to equate capitalism with
Christianity, in part in the early 50s, it leads to "In God We Trust"
on money and "under God" in the allegiance.
https://www.amazon.com/One-Nation-Under-God-Corporate-ebook/dp/B00PWX7R56/
could they have been also involved in the "red scares" as distraction strategy.
Red Scares, Then and Now
https://www.project-syndicate.org/onpoint/red-scares-then-and-now-by-alexander-baunov-and-thomas-de-waal-2017-11
And yet, soon enough, congressional hearings and a television
documentary exposed McCarthy as a liar and a demagogue. As in 1920,
the Red Scare of the early 1950s faded almost as quickly as it had
begun.
....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Scare
other corporate "capitalism" propaganda campaign posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#32 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#33 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#49 Corporate malfeasance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#27 British socialism / anti-trust
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#56 "One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#10 Separation church and state
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#63 One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#97 Trump to sign cyber security order
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#91 Godwin's Law should force us to remember & fear our shared heritage with Nazi Germany
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#55 Should America Have Entered World War I?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#23 Ironic old "fortune"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#60 The Illusion Of Victory: America In World War I
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#41 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#55 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#102 pneumatic cash systems was Re: [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#97 Business as Usual: The Long History of Corporate Personhood
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#98 endless medical arguments, Disregard post (another screwup)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#102 75 years ago, Hitler invaded Poland. Here's how it happened
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Sugar Industry Long Downplayed Potential Harms Date: 21 Nov 2017 Blog: FacebookSugar Industry Long Downplayed Potential Harms
How the sugar industry tried to hide the health effects of its product
50 years ago
https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/21/16684448/sugar-industry-health-effects-research-funding-project-259-heart-disease-cancer
New evidence shows the sugar industry suppressed studies linking sugar
to heart disease and cancer
http://www.businessinsider.com/big-sugar-heart-disease-cancer-link-went-unreported-2017-11
Merchants of Doubt: How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on
Issues from Tobacco Smoke to Global Warming
https://www.amazon.com/Merchants-Doubt-Handful-Scientists-Obscured-ebook/dp/B003RRXXO8/
past posts referencing "Merchants of Doubt"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#16 A Matter of Mindset: Iraq, Sequestration and the U.S. Army
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#62 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#5 Lessons Learned from the Iraq War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#54 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#7 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#41 Is newer technology always better? It almost is. Exceptions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#89 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#80 The REAL Reason U.S. Targets Whistleblowers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#31 An insider's story of the global attack on climate science
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#47 Stolen F-35 Secrets Now Showing Up in China's Stealth Fighter
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#22 $40 billion missile defense system proves unreliable
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#73 10 Big Fat Lies and the Liars Who Told Them
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#100 OT: article on foreign outsourcing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#24 Forget the McDonnells. We're ignoring bigger, more pernicious corruption right under our noses
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#34 43rd President
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#63 12 Reasons America Doesn't Win Its Wars
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#1 Jeb: George W. Bush is a top foreign policy adviser
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#76 Pentagon remains stubbornly unable to account for its billions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#90 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#92 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#38 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#47 British socialism / anti-trust
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#26 Milton Friedman's Cherished Theory Is Laid to Rest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#59 Breaking: Entire Nation Experiencing Collective Amnesia About Iraq War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#13 Merchants of Doubt
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#55 How Economists Turned Corporations into Predators
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#84 "Worse Than Big Tobacco": How Big Pharma Fuels the Opioid Epidemic
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Wages and Productivity Date: 21 Nov 2017 Blog: FacebookIncreasing capital investment, increases productivity, increases wages??? ... except it didn't
something broke around 1980 ... from 2011
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/09/04/opinion/04reich-graphic.html
this also has reference to 2011 NYT graphic, updated through 2014
How GE, GM, Coca-Cola And Kodak Put Shareholders Ahead Of Employees
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2017/06/29/how-ge-gm-coca-cola-kodak-put-shareholders-ahead-of-employees/
from here
http://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/
Bad Ideas; Reknowned economist James K. Galbraith, one of our expert
panelists, pulls no punches in talking about the damage wrought by
financial innovation
https://www.gfmag.com/magazine/june-2017/bad-ideas
Wall Street Wants to Kill the Agency Protecting Americans From
Financial Scams
https://theintercept.com/2017/11/18/wall-street-wants-to-kill-the-agency-protecting-americans-from-financial-scams/
The rule's spectacular defeat marked a rare Wall Street victory over
an agency created by Dodd-Frank, the sweeping financial reform law
Barack Obama signed in 2010. The CFPB was barely five years old when
Donald Trump was elected, promising to "do a number" on financial
regulations.
... snip ...
Bad Ideas; Reknowned economist James K. Galbraith, one of our expert
panelists, pulls no punches in talking about the damage wrought by
financial innovation
https://www.gfmag.com/magazine/june-2017/bad-ideas
I could point to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. It provides
at least one place in the government that is supposed to be looking at
financial innovations with a skeptical eye. In my view, innovation in
the financial sector is designed to get around public purpose.
... snip ...
Treasury slams CFPB rule that empowers class-action suits against
Equifax, Wells Fargo, others
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/treasury-slams-cfpb-rule-that-empowers-class-action-suits-against-equifax-wells-fargo-others-2017-10-23
'What in God's name were you thinking?' senators grill Wells Fargo CEO
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/what-in-gods-name-were-you-thinking-senators-grill-wells-ceo-2017-10-03
SEC fines Wells Fargo Advisors for failing to report on money
laundering
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/sec-fines-wells-fargo-advisers-for-failing-to-report-on-money-laundering-2017-11-14
inequality posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#inequality
"economic mess" posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#economic.mess
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: On the Business Models of War Date: 22 Nov 2017 Blog: FacebookOn the Business Models of War
MBAs have become myopically focused on increasing profits every
quarter ... one of reasons Eisenhower warned about military industrial
complex. They frequently are also involved in reducing contingency and
redundancy (for various kinds of failures) as ways of increasing
profit. This shows up in outsourcing intelligence; 70% budget and over
half people
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us
contributing to the rapidly spreading success of failure culture
(more profit from series of failures)
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/
success of failure posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failuree
MIC(C) past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
perpetual war posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
Some history has innovation occurring during competition ... military during conflicts, businesses potentially continuously. However large corporations have increasingly focused on maintaining status quo and inhibiting innovation ... MBA courses increasingly teaching how to monopolize markets, maintain status quo and block innovation.
The Price of Inequality: How Today's Divided Society Endangers Our
Future, pg35/loc1169-73:
In business school we teach students how to recognize, and create,
barriers to competition -- including barriers to entry -- that help
ensure that profits won't be eroded. Indeed, as we shall shortly see,
some of the most important innovations in business in the last three
decades have centered not on making the economy more efficient but on
how better to ensure monopoly power or how better to circumvent
government regulations intended to align social returns and private
rewards.
... snip ...
Freefall: America, Free Markets, and the Sinking of the World Economy,
pg271/loc5101-4:
Standard economic theory (the neoclassical model discussed earlier in
this chapter) has had little to say about innovation, even though most
of the increases in U.S. standards of living in the past hundred years
have come from technical progress.56 As I noted earlier, just as
"information" was outside the old models, so too was innovation.
... snip ...
inequality posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#inequality
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 09:44:02 -0800Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> writes:
aka computer market issue more than software development cost.
account of end of ACS360 ... that executives were afraid that it would
advance the state-of-the-art too fast resulting in loosing control of
the market ... shortly later Amdahl leaves and starts his own clone
compatible company
https://people.cs.clemson.edu/~mark/acs_end.html
Early 70s, Amdahl gives talk in large MIT auditorium ... some students make an issue of him becoming agent of far east companies (owned half the company and did a lot of the manufacturing). He is also asked what justification did he use to get investment money for his new company. He made some reference that even if IBM was to completely walk away from 360 ... customers had invested large billions in 360 software, that it would keep him in business until the end of the century.
This was early in the FS period ... which was going to completely
replace 360/370 and was completely different ... account of FS
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm
later Amdahl claims he had no knowledge or awareness of FS ... but his comments at MIT sure seems to have overtones of FS reference. Note that during the FS period, internal politics were shutting down 360/370 efforts ... and the claim is that the lack of 360/370 products during the FS period gave clone processor makers a market foothold.
some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
total trivia: in the 80s, IBM TSS/370 group got contract with AT&T to do stripped down TSS/370 kernel (SSUP) with unix layered on top ... UNIX heavily leveraging low-level TSS/370 for hardware & device support. At the same time Amdahl had UNIX port running in VM370 virtual machine (GOLD/UTS) and IBM had UNIX work-alike, UCLA LOCUS as AIX/370 ... also running in VM370 virtual machine. At least in the AIX/370 case, mainframe hardware field support said that they wouldn't provide support if software didn't have full EREP support. The issue was that the cost to retrofit full mainframe EREP support to UNIX was several times the cost of straight-forward UNIX port to 370 (resulting in running under VM370 providing full EREP).
Somewhat looking at the TSS/UNIX effort, for some time in the mid-80s there was a project to do low-level mainframe kernel that provided EREP, device support, device error recovery, etc ... which would be common for IBM's four mainframe operating systems, MVS, VM370, VS1, DOS/VS (as development cost savings justification) ... at one point having something like 500 people ... but never getting much past writing specifications.
other post referencing to testimony about need for compatible
product line:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/96.html#20 1401 series emulation still running?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#231 Why couldn't others compete against IBM?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#10 Is Al Gore The Father of the Internet?^
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#78 TSS ancient history, was X86 ultimate CISC? designs)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001j.html#33 Big black helicopters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001j.html#38 Big black helicopters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001j.html#39 Big black helicopters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#85 The demise of compaq
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002c.html#0 Did Intel Bite Off More Than It Can Chew?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#71 Card Columns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003o.html#43 Computer folklore - forecasting Sputnik's orbit with
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005k.html#0 IBM/Watson autobiography--thoughts on?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005k.html#4 IBM/Watson autobiography--thoughts on?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#60 Was FORTRAN buggy?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#77 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#42 1960s: IBM mgmt mistrust of SLT for ICs?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#34 IBM 8000 ???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#8 what does xp do when system is copying
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#63 Remembering the CDC 6600
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#45 360 programs on a z/10
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#14 360 programs on a z/10
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#21 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#57 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#69 Who was the Greatest IBM President and CEO of the last century?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#12 Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#105 Burroughs B5000, B5500, B6500 videos
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#27 PDP-10 system calls, was 1132 printer history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#73 Future of COBOL based on RDz policies was Re: RDz or RDzEnterprise developers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#50 The mainframe turns 50, or, why the IBM System/360 launch was the dawn of enterprise IT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#66 PL/I advertising
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#40 MVS vs HASP vs JES (was 2821)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#50 System/360--detailed engineering description (AFIPS 1964)
posts referencing TSS/SSUP/UNIX
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#69 Operating systems are old and busted
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#17 Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer (warning: Conley rant)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#61 (slightly OT - Linux) Did IBM bet on the wrong OS?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#44 someone smarter than Dave Cutler
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#2 TSS (Transaction Security System)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#0 Hashing for DISTINCT or GROUP BY in SQL
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#73 Speed of Old Hard Disks - adcons
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#96 History of copy on write
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#85 SV: USS vs USS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#67 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#28 which one came first
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#34 Regarding Time Sharing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#24 Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#92 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made30yearsagotoday
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#74 Is end of mainframe near ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#17 The SDS 92, its place in history?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#20 {wtf} Tymshare SuperBasic Source Code
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#76 Mainframe operating systems?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#80 Mainframe operating systems?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#82 Mainframe operating systems?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#102 SEX
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: US to regain supercomputing supremacy with Summit Date: 24 Nov 2017 Blog: FacebookUS to regain supercomputing supremacy with Summit
There is story from early in the TCM days where there was thermal shutdown as well as flow sensor shutdown (on the inner-loop side). However there wasn't a flow sensor on the external water supply. There was situation where they lost flow on the external water supply ... by the time the thermal sensor tripped ... it was too late and fried TCMs. The issue was that there was so much energy/heat on the inside part of cooling, that by the time the thermal sensor was tripped, it was too late to stop the resulting heat buildup.
Long ago and far away, I got dragged into doing 4341 benchmarks for national lab ... looking at getting 70 4341s for compute farm ... sort of leading edge of cluster supercomputer tsunami (at one point, POK 3033 were so threatened by 4341 clusters, that they got allocation of critical 4341 manufacturing component cut in half).
Last product we did at IBM was HA/CMP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_High_Availability_Cluster_Multiprocessing
HA/CMP posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp
We were working with RDBMS vendors on HA/CMP commercial cluster
scale-up and with national labs (including LLNL) on HA/CMP
technical/scientific cluster scale-up. Old reference to JAN1992 meeting
in Ellison's conference room on commercial cluster scale-up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13
old email on HA/CMP cluster scale-up including references to meetings
with LLNL
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa
within a few weeks of the Ellison meeting, cluster scale-up was
transferred, announced as IBM supercomputer and we were told we
couldn't work on anything with more than four processors. We leave IBM
a few months later. 11FEB1992 IBM press cluster supercomputing for
technical and scientific *ONLY* (possibly because mainframe DB2 people
were complaining that commercial cluster scale-up would be years ahead
of them).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters1
11May1992 press, National lab interest in cluster supercomputing
caught IBM by "surprise".
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters2
commercial ha/cmp cluster scale-up trivia: later two of the Oracle people mentioned in the Jan1992 Ellison meeting (that we had been working with), have left Oracle and are at a small client/server startup responsible for something called "commerce server". We are brought in as consultants because they want to do payment transactions on the server, the small client/server startup had also invented this technology they called "SSL"; the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce".
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: The true story behind Thanksgiving is a bloody struggle that decimated the population and ended with a head on a stick Date: 24 Nov 2017 Blog: FacebookThe true story behind Thanksgiving is a bloody struggle that decimated the population and ended with a head on a stick
"Why Nations Fail" deals with the subject better characterizing
societies as inclusive/exclusive (rather than
equality/inequality). One description is why (English) Jamestown
almost starved to death. They had originally planned on emulating the
Spanish model to enslave the natives to provide for them, but the
North American natives weren't as easily coerced. The English then
switched to sending over various groups of their own people as
"slaves", pg27:
The clauses of the Fundamental Constitutions laid out a rigid social
structure. At the bottom were the "leet-men," with clause 23 noting,
"All the children of leet-men shall be leet-men, and so to all
generations."
... snip ...
My wife's father (early Scottish settlers) was awarded a set of history books (from 1880s history lectures) for some distinction at West Point; that claimed that if it weren't for the mid-Atlantic Scotts prevailing over the English settlers, our form of government would have been a lot less democratic.
inequality posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#inequality
past "leet-men" refs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#31 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#15 Imbecilic Constitution
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#7 Is there a connection between your strategic and tactical assertions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#17 Cultural attitudes towards failure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#71 Is orientation always because what has been observed? What are your 'direct' experiences?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#61 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#84 LEO
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#29 the previous century, was channel islands, definitely not the location of LEO
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#62 Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#38 Qbasic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#123 E.R. Burroughs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#12 Separation church and state
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#32 Star Trek (was Re: TV show Mannix observations)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#55 Comanche Empire
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#10 [CM] What was your first home computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#40 Equality: The Impossible Quest
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Harvard Business School: The U.S. Political System Has Been 'Hijacked' Date: 25 Nov 2017 Blog: FacebookHarvard Business School: The U.S. Political System Has Been 'Hijacked'
New Research Exposes Why Competition in U.S. Politics Industry is
Failing America
https://www.hbs.edu/news/releases/Pages/why-competition-us-politics-industry-failing.aspx
Katherine M. Gehl, former CEO and political innovation activist, and
Harvard's Michael E. Porter reveal how the U.S. political system is no
longer designed to serve the public interest, and how it has been
reconfigured over time to benefit our major political parties and
their industry allies. Report lays out a strategy for reinvigorating
our democracy.
... snip ...
Note: local DC news will periodically refer to it as "Kabuki Theater"
... what you see publicly has very little to do with what is really
going on ... even the apparent conflict between the two parties
... more like Roman Circus, distraction for the public.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#kabuki.theater
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: US to regain supercomputing supremacy with Summit Date: 25 Nov 2017 Blog: Facebookre:
other supercomputer related trivia: I was blamed for online computer
conferencing on the internal network (larger than arpanet/internet
from just about the beginning until sometime mid-80s) in the late 70s
and early 80s. Folklore is that when the corporate executive committee
was told about online computer conferencing (and the internal network)
5of6 wanted to fire me. However the 6th then funded some number of
projects out of his office. One was something I called HSDT
... including working with the director of NSF. We were suppose to get
$20M for interconnect the NSF supercomputer centers. Then congress
cuts the budget, some other things happen and eventually NSF comes out
with RFP (in part based on what we already had running). Internal
politics prevents us from bidding and the NSF director tries to help
by writing the company a letter 3Apr1986, NSF Director to IBM Chief Scientist and IBM Senior VP and director of Research, copying IBM CEO) with support from other agencies. However that just makes the internal politics worse
(as does comments that what we already had running was at least 5yrs
ahead of all RFP responses). As regional networks connect into these
centers, it grows into the NSFNET backbone, precursor to modern
internet.
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/401444/grid-computing/
old nsfnet related email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet
online computer conferencing related posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#cmc
internal network posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
nsfnet backbone posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 17:03:45 -0800hancock4 writes:
Some number of the 7094/CTSS people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatible_Time-Sharing_System
went to project mac on the 5th floor for multics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multics
https://www.multicians.org/history.html
others went to the science center on the 4th flr ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
and did virtual machine cp40 for 360/50 modified with virtual memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/cp40seas1982.txt
upgraded to cp67 when 360/67 became available. TSS/360 was suppose to
be the "real" system for 360/67 ... but most of the machines were eventually
running cp67.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/CMS
https://www.multicians.org/thvv/360-67.html
Melinda Varian's history
https://www.leeandmelindavarian.com/Melinda/neuvm.pdf
from above, Les Comeau has written:
Since the early time-sharing experiments used base and limit registers
for relocation, they had to roll in and roll out entire programs when
switching users....Virtual memory, with its paging technique, was
expected to reduce significantly the time spent waiting for an
exchange of user programs.
What was most significant was that the commitment to virtual memory
was backed with no successful experience. A system of that period that
had implemented virtual memory was the Ferranti Atlas computer, and
that was known not to be working well. What was frightening is that
nobody who was setting this virtual memory direction at IBM knew why
Atlas didn't work.35
... snip ...
this is post discussing the reference to "not to be working well"
referencing ATLAS used paging for large virtual memory ... but not
multiprogramming (multiple concurrent address spaces)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#2 Multiple Virtual Memory
Virtual memory mods. to 360/40 was also associative memory (each real page tagged with its virtual memory address) but also contained 4-bit address space/process-id (supporting multiple concurrent processes)
other posts mentioning the "not to be working well"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#78 TSS ancient history, was X86 ultimate CISC? designs)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#10 VM: checking some myths.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#0 Disk drives as commodities. Was Re: Yamhill
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#1 Disk drives as commodities. Was Re: Yamhill
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005o.html#4 Robert Creasy, RIP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006i.html#30 virtual memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#1 Designing database tables for performance?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#51 Translation of IBM Basic Assembler to C?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#64 CSA 'above the bar'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#54 new 40+ yr old, disruptive technology
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#77 IBM Floating-point myths
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#81 Multiple Virtual Memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#37 S/360 architecture, was PDP-10 system calls
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#47 The Stack Depth
Initial CP67 installed Jan1968 didn't have page thashing control ... and very heavy weight dispatch multiprogramming control ... easily took 10% of processor with just 30-35 users. Next release had simple fixed page thrashing control (number of concurrent tasks based on amount of real storage) from MIT Lincoln Labs along with a simplified dispatch control ... but still quite a bit of overhead. Also, I/O was FIFO queud and one request at a time ... which tended to hit a brick wall for paging (especially when page thrashing control didn't work because workload was different than Lincoln Labs).
I rewrote page replacement algorithm that was much more efficient and a dynamic monitored page thrashing control. I rewrote dispatching&scheduling to be dynamic with default policy resource "fair share". I also implemented ordered seek queuing which degraded much more gracefully as load increased. I also did multiple page request chaining for both disk and fixed head device. Multiple page request chaining for 2301 paging drum increase peak throughput from 80/sec to 270/sec.
some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#fairshare
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#wsclock.
I also significantly reduced critical pathlengths, part of old SHARE
presentation ... regarding CP67 pathlengths rewrites for OS/360 MFT14
running in virtual machine.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#18
Original OS/360 benchmark under CP/67 increased elapsed time from 322 sec to 787 secs (465 CP67 CPU time). Early pathlengths Rewrite reduced that to 435 secs (113 CP67 CPU time).
SHARE presentation also references having significantly optimized OS/360 throughput by careful STAGE2 sysgen, optimizing placement of files and PDS members for avg. seek access ... as well as multi-track PDS directory search time.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 07:24:45 -0800Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
copied wrong reference, should be the previous
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#67 A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: A-10 Date: 26 Nov 2017 Blog: Facebookcheck GAO Desert Storm Air Power Effectiveness report. A10s were so effective taking out Iraq tanks (million A10 30mm shells) ... that crews were walking away ... also finding a lot of abandoned tanks after end of hostilities (stories of fierce tank battles with coalition forces taking no damage, don't mention if the Iraqi tanks had anybody home). Burton's "Pentagon Wars" has them getting A10 30mm cost reduced by nearly a factor of ten ... the desert storm million 30mm shells *ONLY* costing $13M. Burton also suggest a mini-A10 that could be forward deployed and maintained ... however these days increasingly likely to be autonomous (Burton would say that Boyd destroyed his career when Boyd challenged him to do what was right).
other (pentagon wars) trivia, relative was fallujah 2004-2005 and then
came back Baqubah 2007-2008, described as much worse than Fallujah,
mounted Bradley M3 ... but they were loosing so many Bradleys (and
Abrams M1) that they started getting mothballed Bradley DS (desert
storm) replacements (w/o the communcation) ... he was doing everything
possible to keep his M3 operational.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Fighting_Vehicle
https://www.amazon.com/Battle-Baqubah-Killing-Our-ebook/dp/B007VBBS9I/
Boyd would talk being very vocal about the electronic sensors on the
trail not working, possibly as punishment he was put in charge of
Spook Base. Spook Base reference ... gone 404, but lives on at wayback
machine ... includes references to "Quacker" (pilotless drone)
https://web.archive.org/web/20030212092342/http://home.att.net/~c.jeppeson/igloo_white.html
Boyd would also talk about doing something much simpler than F16, 1/3rd the maintenance hrs and 1/5th the costs ... something along the lines of F20-Tigershark. Recognizing that USAF/MIC would never accept cost optimized so they tried targeting export market. They got undercut by F16/MIC forces lobbying congress to offer "directed appropriation" USAID (could only be used to buy F16s) to their candidate countries. The claim is from the candidate countries that F16 was less appropriate for their needs, but the choice was getting F16s for "free" (USAID) or having to spend their own money.
Boyd &/or OODA-loop posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html
military-industrial complex posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: A-10 Date: 26 Nov 2017 Blog: Facebookre:
https://www.thisdayinaviation.com/tag/yf-15a/
The F-15A is armed with one General Electric M61A1 Vulcan 20mm rotary
cannon with 940 rounds of ammunition, four AIM-7 Sparrow radar-guided
missiles and four AIM-9 Sidewinder infrared-homing missiles.
... snip ...
Boyd would talk about how he changed the original yf15 swing-wing design ... showing the benefits of the swing-wing were more than offset by the weight of the pivot mechanism. Then the F15 forces tried to get him put in Leavenworth for the rest of his life for working on YF-16. The justification was that he originally wasn't authorized for the YF-16 work, but was using tens of millions in supercomputer time as part of the YF-16 design work ... which could be construed as theft of gov. property. Fortunately the criminal investigation couldn't find evidence of his computer use (he had anticipated their actions).
Boyd also told story about being ask to review the latest USAF missile (before Vietnam). They showed him all the specs. and film of it hitting target (drone with flares) every time, claiming 100% hit rate. He asks them to replay the film and stopped it just before the missile hits the flare. He then had them stop the film and says it would also never hit and asks them what kind of guidance. They say heat-seeking. He asks what sort of heat-seeking and eventually gets them to say pin-point. He then asks them what his the hottest part of a jet. They say the engine. He says no, it is in the plume 30yrds behind. Roll forward to Vietnam and he is proved correct. The one-star in Vietnam grounds all planes and converts them to (Navy) sidewinders. He lasts 3months before being called on carpet in the Pentagon, he had violated basic rule, he was cutting USAF budget (by not using USAF missile) and increasing Navy budget (by using sidewinder).
John Boyd, January 23, 1927 - March 9, 1997, tribute in USNI
Proceedings,
http://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/1997-07/genghis-john
for those w/o membership ...
http://radio-weblogs.com/0107127/stories/2002/12/23/genghisJohnChuckSpinneysBioOfJohnBoyd.html
He used it to re-design the F-15, changing it from an 80,000-pound,
swing-wing, sluggish behemoth, to a 40,000-pound fixed-wing,
high-performance, maneuvering fighter. His crowning glory was his use
of the theory to evolve the lightweight fighters that eventually
became the YF-16 and YF-17 prototypes--and then to insist that the
winner be chosen in the competitive market of a free-play flyoff. The
YF-16, which won, is still the most maneuverable fighter ever
designed. The production successors, the not-so-lightweight F-16 (Air
Force) and the F/A-18 (the Navy-Marine Corps aircraft that evolved
from the YF-17), together with the F-15, dominate the skies today.
... snip ...
http://www.ausairpower.net/Profile-F-15A-D.html
The idea of an air-air fighter was under consideration as early as
1965, but the subsequent FX study generated by USAF Systems Command
created the concept of a 60,000 lb swing wing machine much like the
F-111, already under criticism for its inability to do what it wasn't
built for.
At this stage a Major John Boyd was appointed to rework the FX study
and generate a workable solution. Boyd was an outstanding air combat
tactician and the originator of the concept of energy maneuverability.
... snip ...
Boyd &/or OODA-loop posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: A-10 Date: 26 Nov 2017 Blog: Facebookre:
more:
http://www.ausairpower.net/Profile-F-15A-D.html
It was conceived in TAC's darkest hour, developed out of a
revolutionary concept, designed without role compromise and created
for its pilot above all. The F-15 Eagle has since matured and it is
without doubt the world's foremost air superiority fighter, having
destroyed scores of opponents, from Foxbats to F-4s, in aerial combat
without ever sustaining losses. It is the Ultimate MiG-Killer.
....
The air-air kill ratio in the first offensive was only 2.3:1, however
Linebacker even bettered that with a mere 2:1 exchange rate. The
MiG-17s and MiG-21s were unsophisticated and crude aircraft in
comparison with the F-105 and F-4, but many were well flown and this,
coupled with their better turning ability and gun/heat-seeking missile
armament, accounted for TAC's inability to effectively assert itself
(the USN managed a 12.5:1 kill ratio in Linebacker I/II).
... snip ...
Boyd &/or OODA-loop posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 09:00:33 -0800On 2017-11-25, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
IBM lost much of the education market with the gov. litigation and steep
discounts that it had been giving universities. The litigation also results
in the 23Jun1969 "unbundling" announcement (charging for software,
maintenance, SE services, et) some posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle
It tried to come back in the 80s with creation of ACIS (academic unit) that started with $300M for "grants" to educational institution. Saw $25M going to MIT Athena (joint with DEC also giving $25M) and $50M for CMU unit. The CMU work includes MACH (unix work alike) and CAMELOT transaction processing, andrew file system, etc
In the unix wars ... trying to offset the SUN/AT&T unix lashup
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Software_Foundation
includes trying to create something independent from SUN/AT&T ... OSF pulls together Athena, Andrew and LOCUS (ucla work-alike) pieces.
IBM also tries to offset AT&T TUXEDO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuxedo_(software)
with its own UNIX transaction processing ... IBM funding spinoff of
(CMUs) CAMELOT/ENCINA (and AFS) as independent business unit ... and then
purchasing it outright ... for "unix-based CICS"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transarc
additional reference
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encina_(software)
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~abh/summary.html
https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=OC&subtype=NA&htmlfid=897/ENUS5620-AYV&appname=totalstorage
part of the issue was CICS was highly optimized for 60s OS/360 environment ... that was extremely lightweight ... but didn't scale well (or easy to adapt to other environments). Around the turn of the century, I was in datacenter ... that was running something like 130 (separate) "instances" of CICS on large mainframe complex ... aka single CICS instance not scaling to support resources available. part of the issue was the instruction sequences were extremely highly optimized for internal single-thread operation (and couldn't utilize multiple processors). Finally in 2004, CICS gets some "multiprocessor exploitation"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CICS#Early_evolution
some more cics reference ... gone 404, but lives on at wayback machine
The Evolution of CICS: CICS and Multiprocessor Exploitation (2004)
https://web.archive.org/web/20041023110006/http://www.yelavich.com/history/ev200402.htm
and
https://web.archive.org/web/20050409124902/http://www.yelavich.com/cicshist.htm
and
https://web.archive.org/web/20071124013919/http://www.yelavich.com/history/toc.htm
trivia: univ library got ONR grant to do online catalog, part of the
money goes to getting 2321 datacell. Effort was also selected as
beta-test for original cics program product ... and I got tasked to
support/debug activity. some past CICS (&/or BDAM) posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#cics
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: U.S. Corporate Tax Reform Date: 26 Nov 2017 Blog: FacebookU.S. Corporate Tax Reform
There was 2008 TV broadcast of economist conference roundtable on flattax. Basically current tax system largely accounts for congress being considered the most corrupt institution on earth. Porposal for flat tax would supposedly save 6% in GDP (3% savings in effort managing/filing tax and 3% savings in non-optimal business decisions) which would more than offset loss of any beneficial tax loopholes (as well as eliminate the enormous graft & corruption in congress selling tax loopholes). They joked that major lobbying efforts against flattax was Ireland (eliminate loopholes allowing export of enormous amounts of US profits offshore to Ireland) and the tax preparation industry.
GAO: U.S. corporations pay average effective tax rate of 12.6%
http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/01/news/economy/corporate-tax-rate/index.html
Corporate Tax Cuts Don't Create Jobs, They Enrich CEOs A new study
provides galling examples of this trend.
https://www.thenation.com/article/corporate-tax-cuts-dont-create-jobs-they-enrich-ceos/
27 giant profitable companies paid no taxes
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2016/03/07/27-giant-profitable-companies-paid-no-taxes/81399094/
Corporate Income Tax: Most Large Profitable U.S. Corporations Paid Tax
but Effective Tax Rates Differed Significantly from the Statutory Rate
https://www.gao.gov/mobile/products/GAO-16-363
In 2002, congress allowed fiscal responsibility act (spending could not exceed tax revenue, on its way to eliminating all federal debt) to expire (completely different republican congress than the republican congress that passed the act), first time taxes were cut to not pay for two wars. 2010, CBO report was that 2003-2009, taxes cut by $6T and spending increased by $6T for $12T budget gap compared to fiscal responsibility act. Since then taxes not restored and only modest reduction in spending.
fiscal responsibility act posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: thrashing, was Re: A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 17:27:37 -0800John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> writes:
about the time I was doing global LRU (using page ref bits set & periodic reset) at the univ. ... there were papers published in ACM and academic journals on "local LRU" (original CP67 didn't use reference bits, replacement 1st for pages belonging to inactive tasks, and if there was none, basically became FIFO).
At SIGOPS (Asilomar, 14-16Dec81), Jim Gray asked me if I could help co-worker at Tandem get his Stanford PHD which involved global LRU. I had worked with Jim at SJR and he knew I had down a lot of work on global LRU and had apple-to-apple comparison between local and global LRU. Some of the "local LRU" forces were heavily lobbying Stanford to block awarding PHD involving global LRU.
Unfortunately, I had been blamed for online computering conferencing on the internal network (larger than arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until sometime mid-80s) in the late 70s and early 80s. Folklore is that when the corporate executive committee were told about online computer conferencing (and the internal network), 5of6 wanted to fire me.
When I went to send information ... management said that I wasn't
allowed to (even tho none of the information involved anything after
joining IBM). I've commented that I hoped that it was done as
punishment for online computer conferencing ... rather than they
taking part in the global/local LRU academic dispute. Finally was
allowed to send this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email821019
in this old post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#46 The Future of CPUs: What's After Multi-Core?
posts mentioning working set, page replacement, and paging I/O
algorithms
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#wsclock
Note that the Atlas documentation that I've referenced said that paging was supported with associative value giving virtual address for each real address but w/o any process or address space id ... which implied that it provided single process at a time with virtual memory larger than real storage. As a result working set page thrashing controls wouldn't come into play ... just page replacement algorithm.
also note traditional straight LRU algorithms tend to degenerated to FIFO under heavy load &/or pathelogical conditions. In the early 70s, I did slight of hand coding trick that resulted in it degenerating to RANDOM rather than FIFO (which would outperform traditional LRU).
posts referencing the 19Oct1982 communication
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#47 SVCs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#56 SVCs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#18 What to do with extra storage on new z9
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#65 No Glory for the PDP-15
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#16 Kernels
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#3 Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#70 New test attempt
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#79 Microsoft versus Digital Equipment Corporation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#6 What is "timesharing" (Re: OS X Finder windows vs terminal window weirdness)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#32 squirrels
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#7 Future architectures
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#85 16:32 far pointers in OpenWatcom C/C++
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#0 16:32 far pointers in OpenWatcom C/C++
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#44 16:32 far pointers in OpenWatcom C/C++
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#18 How to analyze a volume's access by dataset
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#23 OS idling
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#5 Memory v. Storage: What's in a Name?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#41 Central vs. expanded storage
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#70 Speed of Old Hard Disks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#8 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#88 Hillgang -- VM Performance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#82 Multiple Virtual Memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#73 Wylbur, Orvyl, Milton, CRBE/CRJE were all used (and sometimes liked) in the past
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#53 Odd variant on clock replacement algorithm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#17 5 Byte Device Addresses?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#21 Closure in Disappearance of Computer Scientist
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#25 VM370 40yr anniv, CP67 44yr anniv
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#37 S/360 architecture, was PDP-10 system calls
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#18 interactive, dispatching, etc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#17 I do not understand S0C6 on CDSG
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#49 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#7 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#42 True LRU With 8-Way Associativity Is Implementable
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#30 By Any Other Name
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#70 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#14 23Jun1969 Unbundling Announcement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#97 IBM architecture, was Fifty Years of nitpicking definitions, was BASIC,theProgrammingLanguageT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#98 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#22 Do we really need 64-bit addresses or is 48-bit enough?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#138 How hyper threading works? (Intel)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#39 Virtual Memory Management
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#90 IBM Embraces Virtual Memory -- Finally
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#2 S/360 stacks, was self-modifying code, Is it a lost cause?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#40 Floating point registers or general purpose registers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#52 Some IBM Research RJ reports
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#66 Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: thrashing, was Re: A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 21:31:05 -0800re:
comment about Atlas not working well was by Les Comeau mid-60s, possibly 1964 or 1965 (I have looked for possible reasons for the comment). Not long later, he left science center in cambridge and went to gburg and for a time "owned" one of the Future System sections (where my wife reported to him, this was before we had even met).
In addition to be previous descriptions I found for associative/content
addressable mapping of virtual to real w/o any address space/process
identifier. This reference not only doesn't mention any page changed or
reference bits ... implying that it wouldn't be able to implement any
sort of LRU algorithm.
http://www.chilton-computing.org.uk/acl/technology/atlas/p002.htm
One-level Store Concept
Although the main-store of the machine is a combination of both drum
and core stores, to the programmer it may be regarded as a one-level
store, i.e. the core and drum stores have been unified and any
location specified by the programmer can be in either. This
unification is achieved by a set of registers in the V-store known as
the page-address registers. These registers contain a list of all the
blocks currently in the core store. When a particular store access is
required, the page address registers are scanned extremely rapidly in
parallel by special hardware as illustrated in Figure 8.
... snip ...
the hardware modifications adding virtual memory to 360/40 had associative lookup for each real page to see if it matched that virtual address ... it also had reference & changed bits and a four bit process id ... i.e. when task was dispatched the process id was also loaded ... and in addition to matching the virtual address, it also had to match the process id.
from reference
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/cp40seas1982.txt
The 64 words were designed to give us a relocate mechanism for each 4k
bytes of our 256K bytes memory. Relocation was achieved by loading a
user number in the search argument register of the associative array,
turning on relocate mode and presenting a CPU address. The match with
user number and address would result in a word selected in the
associative array. The position of the word 0-64 would yield the high
order 6 bits of a memory address. Because of a rather loose cycle time
this was accomplished on the 360/40 with no degradation of the overall
memory cycle. In addition to the translate function, the associative
array was used to record the hardware use and changed statue and our
software noted transient and locked conditions relative to a
particular block of 4K bytes in the memory.
... snip ...
other trivia ... in addition to the issues of supporting multiple
concurrent tasks in memory (each page taged as process/user id as in
cp40) the one level store concept was also major performance problem for
both tss/360 as well as the aborted/failed Future System effort, some
posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
I've periodically mentioned that when I did the CMS page mapped
filesystem implemention ... I took into account what I learned what not
to do from tss/360. some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#mmap
The CP40 article also discusses that the 360/40 associative (content
addressable) store doesn't scale up:
Since it appears logically that memory mapping. a la S/360/40, is
superior to program mapping than why isn't it prevalent today? The
answer is cost: the original array cost 35 times what a conventional
memory cell did at that time and since then it seems that associative
logic still is roughly 8 to 10 times what conventional logic cost. There
has been little work done with IBM on associative technology and
therefore there is little likelihood that it will ever become price
competitive in our hardware. what we should now look at is absolute cost
and what associative logic can give us in additional function.
... snip ...
360/40 was 256kbytes with 64 4kbyte pages. 360/67 could have 1-2mbytes ... 512 4kbyte pages. It had an 8-entry associative array that cached the most recently used virtual page addresses from segment/page tables in real storage (rather than each real page tagged with virtual address). 370/168 went to 128 entry table look aside buffer "cache", that was four-way associative that were five-bit indexed (bits from virtual page address). If the virtual address wasn't found in one of the four indexed entries, it would replace one of the four with real addresses loaded from segment/page tables.
posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#wsclock.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Here's why Warren Buffett is unloading IBM stock Date: 27 Nov 2017 Blog: FacebookHere's why Warren Buffett is unloading IBM stock
Note AMEX and KKR were competing for private-equity LBO of RJR and KKR
wins. KKR runs into trouble and hires away AMEX president to help with
RJR. IBM has gone into the red and was being reorganized into the 13
"baby blues" in preparation for breaking up the company. The former
president of AMEX is then hired away, halts the breakup and uses some
of the same techniques used at RJR.
https://web.archive.org/web/20181019074906/http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml
The former AMEX president then leaves IBM to head up one of the other
large private-equity companies ... does acquisitions that will include
the beltway bandit that will hire Snowden. One of the frequent issues
is that private-equity will squeeze their companies to cut corners and
any other way that will generate money for their owners ... also
beltway bandits can't use money from gov. contracts to lobby congress
... but private-equity owners can, which saw an enormous uptic in
gov. outsourcing last decade ... intelligence, 70% of budget and over
half of the people
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us
private-equity owned companies that had outsourced contracts to do security clearances were found to be filling out the paperwork ... but not actually doing background investigations.
trivia: we had left the company ... but during the reorganization period in preparation for the breakup, we had got a call from the bowels of Armonk. One of the issues was that there were lots of supplier contracts that were being leveraged by organizations in other divisions ... with the breakup they would then be in different companies. We were asked to help inventory all the supplier contract MOUs in prepartion for turning them into separate contracts (new CEO was hired and breakup reversed before we got started).
posts mentioning private-equity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity
posts mentioning former AMEX president, IBM CEO, etc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
posts referencing pensions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#pensions
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 18:50:21 -0800jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
slan/cern refs
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-wrap/getdoc/slac-pub-3069.pdf
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-wrap/getdoc/slac-pub-3680.pdf
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-wrap/getdoc/slac-pub-3753.pdf
in this (ibm-main mailing list) recent post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#78 Mainframe operating systems?
triva: this was about the time of xt/370 ... card with 68k programmed to emulate 370 sufficient to run highly modified version of vm/370 ... running at 100kips. A couple years later IBM Germany had small chipset that implemented full 370 running at 168speed (3mips). A german mainframe clone maker come into possession of a copy of the detailed specification (for the "ROMAN" chipset). They had partnered with Amdahl and when somebody from Amdahl saw it, it took possession of it and sent it to me (being illegal for it to be out of IBM's possession).
a few posts mentionin ROMAN
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#16 At least two decades back,
some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it
still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#46 A bit of IBM System 360 nostalgia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#72 zEC12, and previous generations, "why?" type question - GPU computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#77 zEC12, and previous generations, "why?" type question - GPU computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#172 Slushware
other past post mentioning 168Es
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#43 IBM 5100 [Was: First DESKTOP Unix Box?]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#8 The IBM 5100 and John Titor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#72 zEC12, and previous generations, "why?" type question - GPU computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#27 World's worst programming environment?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#85 the suckage of MS-DOS, was Re: 'Free Unix!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#69 Remembrance of things past
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#79 Ancient computers in use today
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#87 a bit of hope? What was old is new again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#28 The joy of simplicity?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#52 The Stack Depth
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#78 Microcode
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#24 Is it a lost cause?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#10 SC/MP (1977 microprocessor) architecture
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 23:10:54 -0800jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
slan/cern refs
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-wrap/getdoc/slac-pub-3069.pdf
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-wrap/getdoc/slac-pub-3680.pdf
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-wrap/getdoc/slac-pub-3753.pdf
in this (ibm-main mailing list) recent post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#78 Mainframe operating systems?
triva: this was about the time of xt/370 ... card with 68k programmed to emulate 370 sufficient to run highly modified version of vm/370 ... running at 100kips. A couple years later IBM Germany had small chipset that implemented full 370 running at 168speed (3mips). A german mainframe clone maker come into possession of a copy of the detailed specification (for the "ROMAN" chipset). They had partnered with Amdahl and when somebody from Amdahl saw it, it took possession of it and sent it to me (being illegal for it to be out of IBM's possession).
a few posts mentionin ROMAN
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#16 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#46 A bit of IBM System 360 nostalgia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#72 zEC12, and previous generations, "why?" type question - GPU computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#77 zEC12, and previous generations, "why?" type question - GPU computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#172 Slushware
other past post mentioning 168Es
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#43 IBM 5100 [Was: First DESKTOP Unix Box?]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#8 The IBM 5100 and John Titor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#72 zEC12, and previous generations, "why?" type question - GPU computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#27 World's worst programming environment?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#85 the suckage of MS-DOS, was Re: 'Free Unix!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#69 Remembrance of things past
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#79 Ancient computers in use today
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#87 a bit of hope? What was old is new again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#28 The joy of simplicity?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#52 The Stack Depth
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#78 Microcode
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#24 Is it a lost cause?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#10 SC/MP (1977 microprocessor) architecture
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Ferranti Atlas paging Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 12:53:18 -0800scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
had gone to the 5th flr to do multics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multics
others went to the science center on the 4th flr and did virtual
machines, cp40/cms, cp67/cms, internal network, online applications,
performance tools (some that evolve into capacity planning), invented
GML, etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/CMS
past posts mentioning science center, 4th flr, 545 tech sq.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
little relationship with the product groups doing the "mainline" batch systems.
When I was at the science center, I had little rivalry with 5th flr. The number of IBM customer batch systems were significantly larger than the number of Virtual Machine systems ... however, they were growing enormously inside of IBM for all development (including development for all the batch systems). Just comparing the number of internal IBM virtual machine systems against total number of Multics systems that ever existed ... still wasn't fair.
However, I had hobby of producing and supporting enhanced operating
systems for internal datacenters ... and for some period, the number of
my enhanced systems for internal datacenters was about 50% more than the
total number of MULTICS systems
https://www.multicians.org/sites.html
CP67 & VM370 biggest "SYSGEN" issue was that they were shipped supporting full source maintenance ... and customers were given option of system build from full source (which a lot did) ... rather than using the distributed binaries. The full source maintenance option also resulted in large number of customers doing their own source modifications. At one point there was claim that the (user contribution) Univ. of Waterloo library had more lines of code than the official distributed system (although there was some amount of duplication of features in Waterloo library).
trivia: GML was invented at the science center in 1969. Then GML tag
formating was added to CMS SCRIPT (which was a re-implementation of CTSS
RUNOFF that used period/dot formating). A decade later GML morphs into
ISO standard SGML ... and then after another decade it morphs into HTML
at CERN. CERN was using the Waterloo implementation of CMS SCRIPT for
SGML that morphs into HTML. some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#sgml
Note that decision to redo CP67 for VM370, there was split off of
people from the science center that initial moved to the 3rd flr.
Then as the VM370 outgrew the 3rd flr, they moved out to the
old SBS bldg at Burlington mall. Then with the failure of Future
System project ... past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
there was mad rush to revive 370 efforts and 3033 and 3081 (& 370/xa)
were kicked off in parallel. detailed description
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm
the head of POK then managed to convince corporate to kill the vm370 product and move all the VM370 Burlington mall people to POK to work on MVS/XA (or supposedly he wouldn't be able to ship MVS/XA on schedule 7-8yrs later). The plan was to not inform the Burlington Mall people until just before the shutdown .... however, the information managed to leak and lots of people managed to escape. One of the jokes is that the head of POK was one of the biggest contributors to (DEC) VMS because of all the people that escape to DEC (and the move to POK).
Eventually Endicott (138/148, 4331/4341, etc) managed to save the VM370
product mission ... but Endicott had to reconstituted a development
group from scratch ... which significantly impacted code quality for a
time. Some of this shows up in VMSHARE conferencing, archives here
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare
sometimes(?) "404" ... but also at wayback machine
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/
i.e. in the late 60s and early 70s there were some number of commercial
service bureaus formed to offer CP67-based (and then VM370) online
offerings ... some passed posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#online
NSCC was spinoff from the science center, IDC was mostly spinoff from
MIT Lincoln Labs. Both NSCC & IDC quickly moved up the value stream to
offering online financial information to wallstreet. Then there
was TYMSAHRE on the west coast.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymshare
it was TYMSHARE that started offering their VM370/CMS based online computer conferencing system to (user group) SHARE as VMSAHRE in AUG1976.
other recent discussion was that 4th generation languages developed
for deployment on CP67(&VM37) in the 60s & 70s
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#29 Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#39 The complete history of the
IBM PC, part two: The DOS empire strikes; The real victor was
Microsoft, which built an empire on the back of a shadily acquired
MS-DOS
wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramis_software
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomad_software
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomad_software#Development:_Late_1970s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOCUS
also original SQL/Relational ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr
Boeing also included CP67(& later VM370) online offerings in its BCS spinoff. I was one of the first half dozen people brought into Boeing (when I was still an undergraduate) to form Boeing Computer Services (consolidated all dataprocessing into independent business unit to monetize its investment, including offering dataprocessing to non-Boeing entities). This was out of corporate hdqtrs which had a single 360/30 at the time for doing payroll. The politics with Renton datacenter was interesting ... since they had something like $200M-$300M in IBM 360 mainframes (in 60s dollars) ... which I thot was possibly largest in the world. Then it was being replicated at new 747 plant up at Paine Field ... for disaster scenario where Mt. Rainier warms up and mudslide takes out Rendon.
Later I would sponsor Boyd's briefings at IBM ... and one of Boyd's
biographies mentions he did a stint at spook base (about the same time I
was at Boeing) which was $2.5B "windfall" for IBM (ten times
renton). ref gone 404, but lives on at wayback machine:
https://web.archive.org/web/20030212092342/http://home.att.net/~c.jeppeson/igloo_white.html
Boyd would talk about being very vocal about sensors on the trail wouldn't work ... so putting him in command.of.spook base was possibly punishment.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: VS/Repack Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 13:22:11 -0800web references that mention VS/Repack
CSC did a lot of paging behavior studies ... using both analytical models and simulators that used various kinds of real world traces.
Some of the simulators started out using full instruction traces using REDCAP (a POK developed program used for investigating instructions for processor optimization design). An early example was studying the port of APL/360 to CMS (for CMS\APL). APL/360 had storage management that allocated new storage for every assignment ... until it exhaused the workspace and then did garbage collection. This had little effect in the swapped, small APL\360 workspaces (16kbytes to 32kbytes). However, in the CMS large virtual address space, it exhibited page thrashing behavior. A CMS\APL program running for any period, regardless of program and/or data size, would frequently and repeatedly touch every page in the virtual address space. There were 6ft high printouts that ran down the hallway of the 4th flr (545 tech sq) with storage location on the vertical and time running horizontal down the hall. The storage change/references followed repeated sawtooth pattern ... storage accesses quickly rising from the floor to the ceiling during assignments and then sharp drop back to the floor during garbage collection. The trace & analysis also was used for early "hot-spot" analysis ... where was an application spending most of its time.
The analysis also involved to do semi-automated program reorganization
... given a map of modules in an application, it would use Bayesian
cluster analysis to reorganize the module order in an application with
objective of reducing the workset size as well as the number of page
faults. This work was primarily done by Hatfield & Gerald
D. Hatfield & J. Gerald, Program Restructuring for Virtual Memory, IBM
Systems Journal, v10n3, 1971
I did a special modification for Hatfield & Gerald, that instead of full
instruction instruction trace, did a page use trace running in
constrained real storage .... didn't provide the granularity of full
instruction trace, but ran several orders of times faster and for many
applications provided roughly the same analysis. Limit the number of
valid virtual pages to 10-20, allow normal execution until it requested
more pages than limit, then output the valid virtual page numbers and
CPU used and invalidate all pages (but leaving in real storage) and
start over. There would be a lot of page faults, but mostly satisified
from the page already in real storage (but flagged invalid) ... so
overhead usually didn't actually involve I/O operations to move pages.
This was used extensively by internal development groups moving applications from the OS/360 real storage environment to the 370 environments where everything was virtual memory. It was finally released in the mid-70s as the VS/Repack product.
The simulators and analytical models were also used to extensively study different page replacement strategies ... including my slight-of-hand coding trick where LRU whould degenerate to RANDOM rather than FIFO under stress and/or pathological conditions.
other refs:
L. Belady, A Study of Replacement Algorithms for a Virtual Storage
Computer, IBM Systems Journal, v5n2, 1966
J. Rodriquez-Rosell, The design, implementation, and evaluation of a
working set dispatcher, cacm16, apr73
L. Belady, The IBM History of Memory Management Technology, IBM Journal
of R&D, v25n5
R. Carr, Virtual Memory Management, Stanford University, STAN-CS-81-873
(1981)
R. Carr and J. Hennessy, WSClock, A Simple and Effective Algorithm for
Virtual Memory Management, ACM SIGOPS, v15n5, 1981
P. Denning, Working sets past and present, IEEE Trans Softw Eng, SE6,
jan80
triva: Rodiquez-Rosell paper is modifications that the Gernoble
Science Center did to CP/67 to support traditional local LRU
implementation. GSC had 1mbyte (real storage, 256 real pages) 360/67,
that had 155 available pageable pages (after fixed storage kernel
requirements). For comparison, the Cambridge Science Center had
768kbyte (real storage, 192 real pages) 360/67 also running CP/67 with
104 available pageable pages (after fixed storage kenel requirements)
but with global LRU page replacement algorithm. CSC with 75-80
CMS users had better throughput and response than GSC with 35-40 CMS
users (running similar workload and online activity, but with 50% more
real storage for paging).
other trivia: This is discussion about the decision to move all IBM
systems to virtual memory ... basically MVT storage allocation was so
poor, that application region sizes were reguired to be four times
larger than was actually used, limited typical 370/165 1mbyte machine
to four (application) regions. Remapping MVT to virtual memory would
increase number of regions by factor of four with little or no
paging. This would be little different than running MVT under CP/67 in
4mbyte virtual machine. Issue was larger systems were
increasingly becoming more and more I/O bound, which required
increasing the multitasking level to keep resources effectively
utilized. VS2/Release 1 ("SVS") was little more than running MVT in
CP/67 16mbyte virtual machine (mostly required doing channel
program translation, and in fact, prototype started out crafting
CP/67's CCWTRANS channel program translator into EXCP I/O processing).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#73 Multiple Virtual Memory
In early 70s, I got into big dustup with the POK group adding page replacement to MVT for SVS. They wanted to always replace non-changed page (that already had copy on disk) before selecting a change page for replacement (that would first require writing page to disk before being used). In the late 70s, somebody in POK got a big award for pointing out that MVS was (still) replacing high-used read-only shared LINKPACK pages before low-used, non-shared changed application data pages (aka page replacment strategy was not based on use or activity). At the time, they eventually excused it by saying SVS/MVS had never expected to do more than five page I/Os per second ... so quality of replacement selection wasn't that important.
past posts referencing science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
past posts referencing page replacement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#wsclock
some misc past posts mentioning vs/repack
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#7 IBM 7090 (360s, 370s, apl, etc)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#68 The Melissa Virus or War on Microsoft?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000g.html#30 Could CDR-coding be on the way back?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#8 Multiple Virtual Memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#73 Execution Velocity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#20 Operating System, what is it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#82 printer history Languages influenced by PL/1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#19 Assembler vs. COBOL--processing time, space needed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#20 Assembler vs. COBOL--processing time, space needed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#62 Suggestions Appreciated for a Program Counter History Log
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#81 CPU time
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#71 assembler
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#66 Messing Up the System/360
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#69 A New Performance Model ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#79 Limit number of frames of real storage per job
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#92 ABO Automatic Binary Optimizer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#111 Definition of "dense code"
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Ferranti Atlas paging Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 14:48:51 -0800Mike Causer <m.r.causer@gogglemail.com> writes:
this reference I've found the most information, etc
http://www.chilton-computing.org.uk/acl/technology/atlas/overview.htm
http://www.chilton-computing.org.uk/acl/technology/atlas/p002.htm
http://www.chilton-computing.org.uk/acl/pdfs/atlas-1-level.pdf
http://www.chilton-computing.org.uk/acl/technology/atlas/p019.htm
says 512 word "blocks" ... 16kwords core ... 32 blocks
(pages)... compared to cambridge 768k 360/67 ... recent reference
(compared to grenoble 360/67 with 256 pages or cp40 360/40 with 64
pages)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#84 VS/Repack
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/cp40seas1982.txt
each (real) page position has P.A.R. and does associative lookup for virtual address (akin to 360/40 implementation)
and 96k words (192 blocks-pages) of drum store split across four drums
Compared to 360/67 2301 drum ... that had 4mbytes. It is similar to 2303 drum but read/writes four heads in parallel for data rate of 1.2mbytes/sec. Could have multiple 2301 drums per controller. On CP/67, "overflow" paging (more than can be accommodated on drums) would be done to 2314 disks. A heavily loaded CSC CP/67 with 75-80 users, might have 10k-20k or more allocated pages on combination of drum and disks. One of the things I did at the science center was page migration for fixed head drums ... moving low used pages off fixed head drums to moveable arm disks.
I don't find any process id ... like used in the 360/40 implementation
... that greatly reduces overhead in context switching between
concurrent processes ... as well as supporting multiprocessor operation
(different processors could be sharing same real storage while
concurrently running different processes). Using the lock bit hack to do
psuedo invalidate when switching tasks drives the context switch up
nonlinear (overhead increases proportional to the number of pages for
every context switch). detailed 360/67 functional characteristics
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/360/functional_characteristics/GA27-2719-2_360-67_funcChar.pdf
The 360/67 and smaller 370s had cached map ... typically 8 entries for fast lookup and translate virtual->real. If entry wasn't in cache, it would look up in the (active process specific) segment/page table entry and replace current entry. Process/task switch involved clearing cache. Larger 370s like 168, went to 128 entry table that was 32 indexed 4-way associative for virtual->real page mapping with entries STO (process specific segment table pointer) associative ... so table lookaside buffer didn't have to be reset on process/context switch ... i.e. each look-aside buffer entry had process specific tag ... not having to do a reset, in similar way that 360/40 had process id for each associative entry for virtual->real address mapping.
posts in this and related threads:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#66 A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#71 A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#72 A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#76 A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#78 thrashing, was Re: A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#79 thrashing, was Re: A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#81 A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#82 A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#83 Ferranti Atlas paging
trivia: for a time, before VM370 multiprocessor support they had a hack for pages concurrently shared across multiple address sapces ... that I fought against because went horrible in multiprocessor environment. Moving to multiprocessor, they had to have shared pages that were processor specific. If process was redispatched on different processor ... all its virtual memory tables had to be scanned and shared page entries changed to processor specific entries ... overhead that increased non-linearly as number of shared pages increased.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: VS/Repack Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 15:03:36 -0800Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> writes:
some topic drift, APL\360 is official way ... however I have some left over finger training from ebcdic keyboards ... 2741 and 3270s that didn't have reverse slash and had couple decades typing forward slash (although you could have apl keyboard switch layout ... but then you needed to be using APL)
some APL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APL_(programming_language)
with keyboard layout ... forward slash is lowercase next to right shift,
and backslash is uppercase of the same key. standard selectric/2741
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Selectric_typewriter
has "?" question mark above forward slash (instead of backslash) ... and no backslas ... same as current keyboard ... which has backslash above the enter key.
past posts mentioning APL (&/or HONE)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Ferranti Atlas paging Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 18:25:40 -0800Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
the "problem" was because original the 370 virtual memory architecture had a lot more features ... including being able to do r/o shared segments ... either 1mbyte segments or 64kbyte segments (16 4kbyte pages or 32 2kbyte pages). for 370 shared pages, CMS was reorgnized into 64kbyte chunks for r/o shared code and data.
virtual memory had to be retrofitted to the existing non-virtual memory
370s. this was very straight forward for the lower end 370s ... but
retrofitting virtual memory to 370/165 ran into lots of problems.
Eventually 370/165 people said that virtual memory announcement would
have to be delayed at 6months because of the problems ... but they could
gain that back if a lot of features wee dropped ... including r/o shared
segments. The OS/360 MVT->virtual memory VS2 (1st SVS and then MVS)
group said they had no need for any of those features ... and so they
got dropped ... the justification for moving all 370s to virtual
memory was based on the poor application storage management in MVT
... referenced here
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#73 Multiple Virtual Memory
in this thread post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#84 VS/Repack
The full set of 370 virtual memory architecture was supported on internal 370/145s and lot of software had already been developed for the full architecture ... including vm370/cms shared segment. Then when the additional features were dropped (because of the 370/165), all software using those features then had to be redone ... and CMS comes up with real kludge for shared pages.
past posts mention 370/165 responsible for dropping full 370 virtual memory architecture (and sofware & other models already supporting full architecture, had to be reworked).
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Ferranti Atlas paging Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 08:50:30 -0800Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
then in 1988, I was asked to help LLNL standardize some serial stuff that they were working with which quickly becomes fibre channel standard (including some stuff I had done back in 1980 for I/O program latency compensation) finally in 1990, the POK people get their stuff released as ESCON with ES9000, when it was already obsolete.
Then some of the POK people start playing with fibre channel standard and define a heavy weight protocol that drastically reduces the throughput of the native fibre channel standard ... that is eventually released as FICON.
Most recent published peak I/O mainframe benchmark I can find is for
z196 that gets 2M IOPS using 104 FICON (running over 104 fibre channel
standard). About the same time as the z196 peak I/O benchmark, there was
fibre channel announced for E5-2600 blade claiming over million IOPS
(two native fibre channel getting higher throughput than 104 FICON).
past FICON posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon
IBM has announced TCW/zHPF that is a little bit like what I did in 1980 for channel extender ... but says its only 30% improvement over standard FICON (would possibly improve peak I/O 2M IOPS using 80 FICON instead of 104 ... compared to two native fibre channel standard).
also back in late 70s & early 80s, they would let me play disk engineer
in bldgs 14&15 (across street from san jose research). IBM had come out
with 3370 fixed block architecture for mid-range ... and was working on
3380 for high-end ... past posts getting to play disk engineer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk
In the early 80s, mid-range 4341s were selling 100-1000 orders at a time to large corporations for placing out in departmental areas (conference rooms, stock rooms, etc) ... sorting of the leading edge of the coming distributed computing tsunami. MVS wanted to play in this market, but they only supported CKD DASD ... which was the high-end 3380. The only disk for non-datacenter mid-range was 3370 FBA. Eventually they came out with 3375 CKD which was simulated on 3370 FBA. It didn't really help MVS a lot ... company with 100-1000 distributed vm/4341s were looking at how many systems per support person ... while MVS was still stuck with how many support persons per system. zOS (MVS) still requires CKD ... but no real CKD have been made for decades, all being simulated on industry standard fixed-block disks.
I had offered MVS fixed-block support ... but they said even if I
provided them with thoroughly tested and documented support, I needed an
incremental $26M revenue business plan ($200M-$300M in incremental disk
sales) to cover training and documentation. They claimed that since they
were selling every disk as fast as it could be made, any switch from CKD
to FBA would just be the same amount of disk and no incremental
revenue. I wasn't allowed to use things like life time cost savings,
etc. Past posts mentioning CKD dasd, multi-track search, FBA, etc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dasd
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The 1970s engineering recession Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 08:22:54 -0800maus <mausg@mail.com> writes:
after IBM went into the red in the early 90s, I was reminded of it
again when somebody distributed email saying would the last person
to leave POK turn out the lights ... recent post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#51 [CM] What was your first home computer?
other recent posts referencing IBM had gone into the red and was being
reorged into the 13 "baby blues" in preparation for breaking up the
company; then IBM hires the former AMEX president as CEO ... who
eventually reverses the breakup. past posts mentioning the AMEX
president that IBM hires as CEO
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: thrashing, was Re: A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 09:25:22 -0800Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
I've mentioned that I rewrote CP/67 page replacement algorithm, working
set scheduling algorithm (for trashing control), lots of critical paths
performance, multiple chained page transfers for both 2301 fixed head
drum (increased 2301 throughput from 80pages/sec to 270pages/sec) and
2314 disk ... and implemented ordered seek queueing for 2314 (improving
2314 disk i/o throughput both for file i/o and page i/o).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#71 A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095
the "official" operating system for 360/67 was TSS/360 ... which also implemented one level store. TSS/360 never quite made it to production quality ... in part because of its performance. Early when CP67 came to the univesity ... the IBM SE supporting TSS/360 and I had to share dedicated machine time on the weekend (I was responsible for os/360 support as well as playing with cp67). Early in time-frame that CP67 was installed (before I got to rewrite a lot of stuff), we did a simulated fortran edit, compile, link & go script. It turns out that CP67 (before most of my performance improvements) supported 30-35 users with better throughput and interactiver response than TSS/360 did with four users.
Two big TSS/360 performance issues was 1) bloated fixed kernel size,
leaving less pageable pages for running applications and 2) single level
store that did synchronous 4k block transfers at a time (while
application was blocked). This is compared to normal file i/o that can
do contiguous allocation with multiple block transfers and multiple
bufferred read-ahead and write-behind overlapped with execution
... significantly improving cpu use, file i/o throughput, and
application throughput. This is also one of the problems with future
system effort that also specified a TSS/360-like single level store and
those performance issues contributed to its demise.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
As I mentioned previously, when I did CMS paged-mapped filesystem, I had
learned what not to do from TSS/360 single-level store ... aka being
able to support filesystem buffering non-blocking multiple page
transfers with some other slight of hand coding tricks. While CMS normal
filesystem I/O (similar to os/360 model) significantly outperformed
TSS/360 single level store paradigm ... I could get three times
filesystem throughput for moderately I/O bound workload (compared
to standard cms filesystem) ... past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#mmap
a problem that I battled tho was that TSS/360 did address the (OS/360)
problem of executables having (virtual) address specific binding. CMS
used a lot of OS/360 did relied on the os/360 relocatable adcon
convention that was updated at load time ... which gave me constant
headaches in a real page-mapped paradigm ... past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#adcon
other posts in this thread
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#66 A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#72 A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#76 A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#78 thrashing, was Re: A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#79 thrashing, was Re: A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#81 A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#82 A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#83 Ferranti Atlas paging
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#84 VS/Repack
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#85 Ferranti Atlas paging
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#87 Ferranti Atlas paging
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: thrashing, was Re: A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 09:53:00 -0800Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
other trivia ... was IBM did do the 3850 mass storage system,
which had virtual 3330s and real 3330s and staged (paged) a 3330
cylinder to/from tape.
https://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/storage/storage_3850.html
https://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/storage/storage_3850b.html
The MSS transferred data from a cartridge to the 3330 DASD drive when requested, in a process called "staging." Once staged, the data were treated the same as any other data resident on a 3330 disk file. Conversely, when additional 3330 space was needed for incoming data, a cylinder of 3330 data was automatically selected for "destaging" back to its data cartridge. Each cartridge was capable of storing 202 cylinders in the 3330 format.
... snip ...
even more trivia: In late 70s, I had done cmsback for internal systems
... that nightly backedup/archived new/changed data to tape. This went
through a number of internal releases ... then Almaden enhanced it for
release as "work station datasave" (i.e. in addition to supporting cms
filesystems, it had network support for doing something similar for
workstations & PCs that ran backup/archive app). computerworld ref
https://books.google.com/books?id=_4os_r4VnO4C&pg=PA53&lpg=PA53&dq=ibm+workstation+datasave&source=bl&ots=jlC0tGU-NG&sig=v1z2jvt6AU_1ffIhlBuFPWoSVs0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiCudGcq-TXAhUVzWMKHQznAwAQ6AEIUDAG#v=onepage&q=ibm%20workstation%20datasave&f=false
this was then enhanced and rebranded as ADSM ... adstar storage manager
... this was in period when IBM had gone into red and was being
reorganized into the 13 "baby blues" in preparation for breaking up the
company (later reversed by new CEO) ... and the disk division was the
furthest along being rebranded as "adstar". However, while the general
breakup was reversed ... "adstar" was eventually sold off
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adstar
... and ADSM was moved to the IBM Tivoli unit and rebrand as TSM.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Tivoli_Storage_Manager
old "CMSBACK" email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#cmsback
and past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#cmsback
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: mainframe fortran, or A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 10:42:02 -0800John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> writes:
in the mid-80s, ... part of this was playing in NSF supercomputer centers (at univ) ... adding vector processing option to 3090. The engineers doing trout 1.5 (internal code name, announced as 3090) complained that they had so increased (scalar) floating point performance so that it ran at memory speed. They claimed a major motivation for vector in the past was that floating point was so much slower than memory ... that memory could support dozens of floating point units all running concurrently. Having speeded up (scalar) floating point to memory speed, they felt that only under very special conditions would 3090 vector have significantly higher throughput than scalar (since scalar was already running as fast as memory could feed it).
The guy at Palo Alto science center that had been involved in doing the
APL microcode assist for 370/145 (ran APL with throughput of APL running
on 370/168). In the early 80s, he was responsible for the FORTRAN-Q
(internal reference) optimizations ... which eventually gets released as
FORTRAN-HX (also doing a lot of work with SLAC up the road). In this
time-frame SLAC (& CERN) had lots of activities ... recent reference
SLAC/CERN doing their own 370 that ran FORTRAN
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#81 A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095
however, IBM then outsourced some amount of compiler work and there were
a lot of internal complaints that the Q/HX optimization technology was
given away free to the contractor. some recent posts mentiong Q/HX
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#71 Fifty Years of nitpicking definitions, was BASIC,theProgrammingLanguageT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#52 The Stack Depth
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#35 high level language idea
In the late 70s and early 80s, I was blamed for online computer
conferencing on the internal network (larger than arpanet/internet from
just about the beginning until sometime mid-80s). Folklore is that when
the corporate executive committee was told about online computer
conferencing (and the internal network), 5of6 wanted to fire me.
computer conferencing posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#cmc
internal network posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internal
however, the 6th then provided funding out of his office ... including
for a project I called HSDT ... posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
which included working with the director of NSF on interconnecting the
NSF supercomputer centers. HSDT was suppose to get $20M, but then
congress cuts the budget, some other things happen, and finally NSF
released RFP (in part based on what we already had running). Internal
politics prevents us from bidding ... the NSF director tries to help
writing the company a lettter 3Apr1986, NSF Director to IBM Chief Scientist and IBM Senior VP and director of Research, copying IBM CEO) with support from other agencies but that just makes the internal politics worse (as does statements that
what we already had running was at least 5yrs ahead of the RFP
responses). As regional network connect into the centers, it morphs
into the NSFNET backbone, precursor to modern internet.
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/401444/grid-computing/
old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet
past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet
Part of HSDT included high-speed link into Clementi's IBM E&S lab in
Kingston (not to be confused with the supercomputer effort in IBM Kingston).
Clementi's lab included a 3090 with vector processing facility, but also
several Floating Point System boxes (which also had 40mbyte/sec disk
array support). 3090VF and FPS post, including mention that cornell
"supercomputer center" had 3090-400VF and five FPS boxes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#73 Vector Processing on the 3090
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#74 Vector Processing on the 3090
other past posts mentioning Celementi's lab
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#14 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#4 IBM Plans Big Spending for the Cloud ($1.2B)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#63 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#72 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#35 curly brace languages source code style quides
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#95 IBM History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#50 System/360--detailed engineering description (AFIPS 1964)
we were then doing cluster scale-up for our HA/CMP product ... recent
reference
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#67 US to regain supercomputer supremacy with Summit
past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp
working with national labs and other on scientific/technical scale-up and
with RDBMS vendors for commercial scalup ... old reference to JAN1992
meeting in Ellison's conference room
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13
within a few weeks of the Ellison's meeting, cluster scale-up was
transferred, announced as IBM supercomputer and we were told we
couldn't work on anything with more than four processors (possibly in
part because mainframe DB2 complained if this went ahead, it would be
at least 5yrs ahead of them) ... some old email from the period until
just prior to the transfer (including discussion of work with LLNL)
... we depart IBM a few months later.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa
11FEB1992 press, announce for scientific and technical "ONLY"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters1
11MAY1992 press, IBM "caught by surprise" by interest in
cluster supercomputing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters2
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: It's 1983: What computer would you buy? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 12:20:43 -0800hancock4 writes:
old post about AFDC wanting to visit spring 1979 to talk about 20 4341s
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#email790404b
by the time they get around to coming around that fall, order had grown to 210 4341s.
Early 1979, I was also con'ed into doing 4341 benchmarks for national lab that was
looking at getting 70 4341s for compute farm ... sort of leading edge of
the coming cluster supercomputer tsunami. misc. (other) 4300 emails
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#4341
the internal network was larger than arpanet/internet from just about
the beginning until sometime mid-80s. At the great change over from IMPs
to internetworking protocol on 1Jan1983, there was approx. 100 IMP nodes
and 255 connected hosts ... at a time the internal network was rapidly
approaching 1000 nodes (which it passed a little later that year) ...
largely fueled by the huge explosion in 4300s. old post with world-wide
internal network nodes that added one or more nodes during 1983:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#8 Arpa address
4300s sold into the mid-range market in about the same numbers as VAX
for single or small unit numbers ... the big difference was large
corporations ordering 100-1000 at a time. old post with decade of vax
sales ... sliced and diced by year, model, US/non-us
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002f.html#0
other trivia, note that original sql/relational implementation System/R,
done on vm370/145. One of the early installations was Bank of America
with 60 4341s. When Jim Gray departs IBM/SJR for Tandem, he palms off
bunch of stuff on me wanting me to take over BofA support (as well as
IMS DBMS consulting). old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email800311b
trivia ... mid-80s, I got sucked into trying to help a (former) baby
bell that implemented significantly enhanced SNA NCP/37x5 (along with a
lot of VTAM) function on Series/1 clusters ... and wanted to look at
turning it out as commercial product. They had configuration of 60,000
3270 terminals. A couple old posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#67
and part of one of their presentation at (S/1) Common User Gropu meeting
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#70
2000, I was in datacenter that provided nearly all the backend
dataprocessing, outsourcing for nearly all of the US cable tv industry
... as well as things like sending out monthly customer bills,
supporting allt he local office terminals ... as well as handling
messages that were sent down to all the cable setop box updates. This
was machine that had 130 instances of CICS running. recent reference:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#90 Stopping the Internet of noise
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#38 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#76 A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095
CICS (&/or BDAM) posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#cics
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: IBM does what IBM does best: Raises the chopper again Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 29 Nov 2017 16:26:01 -0800edgould1948@COMCAST.NET (Edward Gould) writes:
with relaxing of gov. pressure in the early 80s, IBM tried to get back into educational market, setting up ACIS ... initially with $300M for giving away to educational institutions ... MIT Project Athena got $25M (jointly with another $25M from DEC), CMU got $50M for various andrew efforts (MACH, unix work-alike, camelot/encina ... unix transaction processing, andrew fileystems, etc) ... lots of other institutions.
my brother was regional Apple marketing rep in this period (largest physical region in CONUS) with several univ. institutions. He would comment that he would fawn over any IBM coffee mugs at customer sites and say he liked them so much that he would be willing to trade two apple mugs for every IBM mug (selling appleII and MACs against IBM/PC).
sometime earlier, IBM had 1500
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_1500
picture of my (future) wife ... she had job at the Naval academy in
Annapolis, programming IBM 1500 courses (before she joined IBM)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/1500.jpg
1500 installations, gone but lives on at wayback machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20090604181740/http://www.uofaweb.ualberta.ca/educationhistory/IBM1500Systems_NorthAmerica.cfm
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: why VM, was thrashing Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 08:27:40 -0800John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> writes:
I didn't find out these guys were using a lot of stuff I did as
undergraduate until much later ... ref. gone 404, but lives on wayback
machine.
https://web.archive.org/web/20090117083033/http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtml
we also had some rivalry between MIT project mac on 5th floor doing
multics and science center on 4th floor doing virtual machines.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#71 A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#85 Ferranti Atlas paging
posts mentioning science center on 4th floor (of 545 tech sq)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
also USAF data systems (and some other gov. agencies) was big Multics customer
https://www.multicians.org/sites.html
so it was small feather when AFDS was getting 210 vm/4341s
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#93 It's 1983: What computer would you buy?
as to TSS/360 for single level store, synchronous, blocking paging
faults and then Future System single level store with similar enormous
impact on throughput. Folklore is that with the implosion of FS, some of
the FS people retreated to Rochester and did simplified version for
S/38. However in the S/38 market place ... the poor throughput of single
level store synchronous blocking paging faults was much less of an
issue. FS posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
other FS reference
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm
This is separate from the thrashing issue with number of concurrent tasks simultaneously contending for real storage and driving up page fault rates.
Higher throughput filesystem models provide for contiguous allocation
for larger multi-block transfers and concurrent, overlapped execution
with multi-buffered transfers with read-ahead and write-behind. Part of
my claim that I learned what not to do from TSS/360 single-level store
when I was doing CMS paged-mapped filesystem ... posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#mmap
Note that there is another kind of problem shows up with running a LRU under a LRU. This shows up in early 70s with running one of the batch mainframe systems supporting virtual memory ... and some flavor of least-recently used replacement algorith (page that hasn't for used for the longest time is a page that is considered least likely to be used in the future) in a virtual machine that CP/67 was managing with a LRU algorithm (least recently used virtual machine page is considered to be the least likely to be used in the future). The LRU algorithm running in virtual machine is going to pick a real storage slot that contains a low-usage virtual page for replacement ... making it the next most likely to be used page. However, the virtual machine manager that is also running an LRU algorith, is likely to pick the least recently used virtual machine page (which appears as real page to the system running in the virtual machine). In any case an LRU algorithm running virtually under an LRU algorithm ... can invert the assumptions about least recently used is the least likely to be used in the future.
This then shows up for DBMS that have a cache of records (in operating
system LRU managed stored) ... where the DBMS manages its own cache with
LRU algorithm ... the least recently used cache record ... which the
DBMS wants to use next ... is also the candidate that the operating
system wants to replace next. This shows up in the mid-70s with the
development of the original sql/relational (system/r) on 370/145 vm370
system at san jose research ... past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr
other history of original sql/relational
http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/
Something similar was seen with initial port of apl\360 to CMS (as
CMS\APL) ... which used strategy that allocated new storage for every
assignment ... is was guaranteed to quickly and repeatedly use every
available virtual page. Major part of CMS\APL was redoing the APL
storage managment (and garbage collection) to minimize unnecessary using
large number of different virtual pages. recent reference
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#86 VS/Repack
a common strategy ... for large DBMS running in operating system LRU
managed virtual memory ... is to have special pool of real storage for
DBMS virtual memory cache that is fixed or semi-fixed ... biased to be
very low as candidates for replacement. some past posts mentioning
running DBMS LRU managed cache and/or operating system LRU managed store
running in virtual machine ... running under operating system doing LRU
managed store ... makes 2nd level LRU look like MRU (least recently used
page is mostly likely to be used next, rather than least likely).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#66 Lock-free algorithms
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005k.html#38 Determining processor status without IPIs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#17 {SPAM?} DCSS as SWAP disk for z/Linux
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#15 {SPAM?} Re: Expanded Storage
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006l.html#9 virtual memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#47 Capacity and Relational Database
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#63 Before the PC: IBM invents virtualisation (Cambridge skunkworks)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#17 5 Byte Device Addresses?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#13 Question concerning running z/OS LPARs under z/VM
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: thrashing, was Re: A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 08:54:36 -0800Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> writes:
of course, 370/165 1mbyte configurations was relatively quickly replaced by 370/168 4mbyte configurations ... but VS2/SVS (MVT layed out in single 16mbyte virtual address space) was also replaced by VS2/MVS ... giving each application its own virtual address space ... allowing much larger number of concurrent tasks ... in part trying to keep increasing the throughput of larger systems.
In mid-70s, I was starting to point out that systems were increasingly
becoming I/O bottleneck ... to maintain aggregate system throughput
required increasing the number of concurrent operations. Early 80s, I
was saying that relative system disk throughput had declined by and
order of magnitude over a period of 15yrs (disk throughput increase 3-5
times, but large system increased 40-50 times). Some disk division
executive took exception with the comments and assigned the division
performance group to refute my comments. However, after a few weeks they
came back and said that I had slightly understated the problem. This is
eventually respun for SHARE user group presentation about optimizing
disk configurations for improved system throughput. Old references
to Share B874 presentation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#68 DASD Response Time (on antique 3390?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#18 AS/400 and MVS - clarification please
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#3 using 3390 mod-9s
posts refencing getting to play disk engineer in blgs 14 (division
disk engineering) and 15 (division disk product test) ... across
the street from bldg 28 (san jose research)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: why VM, was thrashing Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2017 12:45:52 -0800recent posts mentioning single-level store, blocking, synchronous page fault handling
OS/360 filesystem paradigm is large multi-block, multi-buffered, contiguous transfers overlapped with execution, including read-ahead and write-behind. related issues to blocking, synchronous page fault handling ... is large multithreaded DBMS ... whatever transaction responsible for a page fault (with blocking, synchronous page fault handling) could block the execution of overlapped execution of other transactions.
In the virtual machine environment, something similar applies to large multitasking virtual guest operating systems.
For 370 135/145 following, 138/148 they were doing microcode
enhancements. I was told they microcode ran avg. ten native instruction
for every emulated 370 instruction. They had 6kbytes of available
microcode space and instructions would convert on about byte for byte
basis. I needed to identify that highest executed 6kbytes of vm370
kernel for dropping into microcode for 10:1 performance improvement. The
following ordered kernel instruction execution frequency ... 6kbytes
was nearly 80% of kernel cpu
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#21 370 ECPS VM microcode assist
Endicott then wanted to ship vm370 as part of every machine ordered (sort of like LPAR in current machines). However this was in period that POK was working on getting corporate to kill vm370 product and transfer all vm370 development to POK to support MVS/XA development.
Then there is issue with guest operating systen being blocked for any page fault. VS1 "handshaking" was developed that if VS1 was enabled for interrupts and virtual machine took a page fault, VM370 would reflect a psuedo pagefault to VS1 ... allowing it to switch tasks (overlapped while VM370 handled the page fault). When page fault handling was complete, then a psuedo page I/O complete interrupt would be reflecting to VS1 (allowing to switch back to the faulted task). This created tighter integration between guest VS1 running in virtual machine while letting vm370 do the page fault handling.
also contributing, at this time, vm370 was running my page replacement and page i/o that was significantly better and shorter pathlength than VS1 ... helping contribute to VS1 running faster in virtual machine under VM370 ... than on stand-alone native machine.
page replacement, page i/o, working set, thrasing management
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#wsclock
Future System posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
recent posts mentioning POK working to kill VM370 product and
transfer VM370 development to support MVS/XA development
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#79 VM370 Development
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#32 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain Its Current Importance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#36 IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#51 CPU Timerons/Seconds vs Wall-clock Time
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#25 MVS vs HASP vs JES (was 2821)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#35 Hitachi to Deliver New Mainframe Based on IBM z Systems in Japan
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#34 Programmers Who Use Spaces Paid More
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#68 MULTICS & VM370 History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#69 48-year-old Multics Operating System Resurrected
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: OS-9 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2017 19:51:44 -0800Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
part of intro from iAPX 432 Architecture (171821-001):
The B5000 architecture had the right approach; it attempted to raise the
level of the archtecture using the best available programming
methodology, (c. 1960), which largely reduced to "use Algol", and the
architecture supported Algol very effectively. But in the 1970s and
1980s problems have arisen for which Algol and the programming
methodology of the early 1960s offer no solution. <br><br>
had more conventional architectures, to recognize the wisdom of raising
the level of the hardware-software interface. Consider, for example, the
IBM System 38, IBM's most recent architecture. Not only have the
designers of the System 38 followed the Burroughs approach to
architecture support for high-level languages, they have also included
most of the operating system in the hardware as well. It seems
inevitable that the fundamental problems facing the computer industry
will force more and more manufactuers to take this approach.
... snip ...
posts referencing iAPX 432 Architecture (171821-001)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#48 Famous Machines and Software that didn't
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#42 Why is zSeries so CPU poor?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#18 Microprocessors with Definable MIcrocode
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#40 Faster image rotation
a couple years earlier I had done something similar for VM/370 with (five) multiprocessor machine ... but it was done in microcode ... not in m'code ... so bug fixes was lot simpler than having to do new silicon.
some past 5-way SMP VAMPS processor posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#bounce
Future System posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
some past posts mentioning iAPX432 presentation at ACM SIGOPS conference
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#57 iAPX-432 (was: 36 to 32 bit transition
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#2 Minimalist design (was Re: Parity - why even or odd)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#27 iAPX432 today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#11 computers and alcohol
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#54 Reviving Multics
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003m.html#23 Intel iAPX 432
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#60 Will multicore CPUs have identical cores?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#64 Will multicore CPUs have identical cores?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#73 Athlon cache question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#31 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#35 Two views of Microkernels (Re: Kernels
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#52 Lack of bit field instructions in x86 instruction set because of patents ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#13 Microprocessors with Definable MIcrocode
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#1 IA64
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#45 IA64
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#7 RISCversus CISC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#65 Architecture / Instruction Set / Language co-design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#2 68000 assembly language programming
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#40 history of Programming language and CPU in relation to each other
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#75 Bloat
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#63 PL/I advertising
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#115 IBM History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016f.html#38 British socialism / anti-trust
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#61 Typesetting
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#28 Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor bil ling by 15 percent (our else)
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: OS-9 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2017 06:22:00 -0800Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
part of intro from iAPX 432 Architecture (171821-001):
The B5000 architecture had the right approach; it attempted to raise the
level of the archtecture using the best available programming
methodology, (c. 1960), which largely reduced to "use Algol", and the
architecture supported Algol very effectively. But in the 1970s and
1980s problems have arisen for which Algol and the programming
methodology of the early 1960s offer no solution.
These problems have led other manufactuers, whose earlier computers
had more conventional architectures, to recognize the wisdom of raising
the level of the hardware-software interface. Consider, for example, the
IBM System 38, IBM's most recent architecture. Not only have the
designers of the System 38 followed the Burroughs approach to
architecture support for high-level languages, they have also included
most of the operating system in the hardware as well. It seems
inevitable that the fundamental problems facing the computer industry
will force more and more manufactuers to take this approach.
... snip ...
I've periodically commented that "father of risc" ... John Cocke, was a
least partially motivated to do 801/risc in the mid-70s ... by going to
the opposite of the enormously complex (failed) Future System project,
past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
John also really liked to stay up most of the night drinking, there were
times when I was lucky to make it back to hotel (for a time, I lived on
west coast but reported to YKT on the east coast and communted a couple
times a month).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cocke
Perhaps the project where his innovations were most noted was in the IBM
801 minicomputer, where his realization that matching the design of the
architecture's instruction set to the relatively simple instructions
actually emitted by compilers could allow high performance at a low
cost.
... snip ...
801/risc, pc/rt, rs/6000, etc posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801
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From: "Anne and Lynn Wheeler" <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The 1970s engineering recession Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 08:19:38 -0800 (PST)On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 7:38:22 AM UTC-8, Peter Flass wrote:
CRA community reinvestment act ... banks ... regulated depository instituti ons, 2001-2008 something like $300B total ... not that different from prior years ... raising the issue was obfuscation and misdirection
After turn of century, non-regulated institutions found that they could get into mortgages ... securitizing, paying for triple-A rating (when rating a gencies knew they weren't worth triple-A) and immediately sell into (effect ively) bond market ... doing over $27T 2001-2008 (CRA volume was about 1% o f the triple-A securitization). Triple-A rating trumps lending standards, they could start doing no-down, liar loans and no longer have to care about borrowers' qualifications and/or loan quality.
Then they find they can design securitized mortgages designed to fail, pay for triple-A, sell off to the market, and take out CDS gambling bets that t hey would fail. Now they cared about borrowers' qualification and/or loan q uality ... but not in the traditional way.
Later, AIG was the largest holder of the CDS gambling bets and negotiating to pay off at 50cents on the dollar when the SECTREAS steps in says that ca n't pay off at less than face value, has AIG sign a document that they can' t sue those making CDS gambling bets and to take TARP funds to pay off at f ace value. The largest recipient of TARP funds was AIG and the largest reci pient of face-value payoffs was firm formally headed by SECTREAS.
"economic mess" posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#economic.mess
Too Big To Fail posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
(Triple-A rated) toxic CDOs posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
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From: "Anne and Lynn Wheeler" <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The 1970s engineering recession Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 16:54:12 -0800 (PST)re:
... CRA community reinvestment act ... around since 1977 ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act
as previous post, total during economic mess, 2001-2008 ... something like 1% of the (some $300B compared to over $27T) triple-A rated toxic instrume nts done during the mess (triple-A rating also allowed them to sell to inst itutions restricted to only dealing in "safe" investments ... like large in vestment funds ... claimed they took an avg 30% hit to their funds because of these instruments). Bringing up CRA as part of economic mess was obfusca tion and misdirection .... on the order of 1% of the triple-A rated toxic C DOs done during the period ... and then with the triple-A rating and CDS ga mbling bets ... there was motivation to purposefully making toxic CDOs to fail ... and finding people they knew couldn't pay ... totally unrelated to any CRA.
Even if every bit of the $300B CRA had failed ... it still wouldn't have re sulted in the trillions and trillions of economic mess losses.
"economic mess" posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#economic.mess
Too Big To Fail posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
(Triple-A rated) toxic CDOs posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
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From: "Anne and Lynn Wheeler" <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The 1970s engineering recession Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 05:55:02 -0800 (PST)On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 1:20:03 AM UTC-8, Simon Turner wrote:
oops both .... He had been head of GS before becoming SECTREAS after turn of the century ... so many GS people were then brought into treasury there was this joke that treasury was the GS branch office in Washington. When the crash happened SECTREAS heavily pressured congress to pass TARP ... supposedly for the purchase of trillions in offbook toxic assets, however with only $700B appropriated, it would have hardly would have been a dent in that problem. He then used the largest amount for AIG to payoff the CDS gambling bets at face value (the largest payout for face value CDS gambling bets went to the SECTREAS company) ... and then what was left was used for other things while the Federal Reserve behind the scenes provided the trillions to buy offbook toxic assets and tens of trillions in ZIRP funds.
The Federal Reserve fought long legal battle to prevent disclosing what it was doing. When they lost, the Fed chairman then held a press conference to say that he thought the too big to fail would use the ZIRP funds to help main street but when they didn't, he had no way to force them (they were using ZIRP funds to buy treasuries and clearing something like $300B/annum on the spread). Note that supposedly the chairman had at least partially selected on the basis of being a depression scholar ... however the FED had done something similar then with similar results ... so he should have had no expectation that the too big to fail were going to help mainstreet.
economic mess posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#economic.mess
(triple-A rated) toxic CDO posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
ZIRP posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#zirp
Too Big To Fail (too big to prosecute, too big to jail)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
FED Chairman posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fed.chairman
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From: "Anne and Lynn Wheeler" <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: why VM, was thrashing Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 06:20:45 -0800 (PST)re:
in the wake of the 23june1969 unbundling announcement ... and starting
to charge for things, software, maintenance, .... including SE
services ... they had problem with SE training ... which had been sort
of apprentice program as part of large group of SEs at customer shop
... with unbundling, they couldn't figure out how not to charge for
the apprentice SEs.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle
Solution eventually was providing branch office online access to HONE
virtual machines (running guest operating systems) for SEs to practice
operating system skills (first CP/67 and then VM/370). However,
science center had also done part of APL\360 to cms for CMS\APL
... and they also started offering online APL-based sales and
marketing tools on HONE ... eventually the APL-based sales and
marketing tools came to dominate all HONE activity and the virtual
guest operating system use (by SEs) faded away. some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone
trivia: HONE was one of my early (and long time) internal customers
for enhanced operating systems ... recent reference:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#95
In addition to the other performance work done at the science center ... one was an APL-based analytical system model. This was enhanced for the Performance Predictor on HONE for sales&marketing. Branch people could enter customer configuration and workload information (include system monitoring information) and ask "what-if" questions about changes to workload and/or configuration.
Then in the mid-70s, the US HONE datacenters were consolidated in Palo Alto (trivia, when facebook 1st moved into silicon valley, it was into a new bldg built next door to the HONE datacenter). By the late 70s, this had grown to eight POK 2-way processor SMP machines all connected to shared disk farm (aka cluster, loosely-coupled) ... supporting load balancing and failure fall-over in a "single-system-image" complex. A version of the original APL-base analytical system model (also used for the Performance Predictor) was modified for deciding load balancing decisions.
Trivia, such a VM370 capability for VM370 wasn't released to customers until 30yrs later.
In wake of early 80s earthquake, fall-over was extended to replicated datacenter in Dallas and then a 3rd in boulder.
I mentioned before about in the initial morph of CP67 to VM370, a lot
of stuff was simplified and/or dropped, including most of my CP67
system enhancements. Then I got around to moving the stuff from to
VM370 ... old email ... although some stuff like CMS paged mapped
filesystem was subset because of restrictions.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email731212
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750102
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430
with the failure of Future System and the mad rush to get stuff back
into 370 product pipelines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
... a subset of these changes were selected to be released in customer
product ... mostly the dynamic adaptive scheduling, page replacement
algorithm and numerous other page related performance enhancements
... past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#fairshare
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#clock
also included significant restructuring of the vm370 kernel for
supporting multiprocessor operation (which had also been dropped in
the cp67->vm370 morph) ... but not the actually SMP support itself
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp
As part of the performance work, we had also developed automated
system benchmarking, build a kernel, reboot the machine, run synthetic
workload, repeat. My initial morph to vm370 included some workloads
that were significantly heavier than any actually seen in real world
environments ... which consistently crashed vm370. I then had to redo
the internal VM370 kernel serialization mechanism to keep the system
from constantly crashing. We had years of performance monitoring data
for hundreds of internal machines ... and as part of preparing for
product release ... we designed a series of 1000 automated benchmarks
that uniformly covered the workload and configuration spectrum (from
the real world monitor data). We then modified the APL-based
analytical model to do another 1000 automated benchmarks to hunt for
anomalous conditions .... taking into account data from all previous
benchmarks ... trying to select configuration and workload that might
present problems. It would also predict what the system should do
... and after the benchmark was completed compare the prediction with
the actual. In preparation for product release, did over 2000
automated benchmarks that took 3months elapsed time to run. past posts
mentioning automated benchmarking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#bench
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From: "Anne and Lynn Wheeler" <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Now Hear This-Prepare For The "To Be Or To Do" Moment Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 06:49:20 -0800 (PST)Now Hear This-Prepare For The To Be Or To Do Moment
I was blamed for online computer conferencing on the internal network
(larger than the arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until
sometime mid-80s) in the late 70s and early 80s. Folklore is that when
the corporate executive committee was told about online computer
conferencing (and the internal network), 5of6 wanted to fire
me. Possibly affecting that was one of my hobbies was doing enhanced
operating systems for internal datacenters .... including HONE
(worldwide online sales and marketing systems). From IBMJARGON:
Tandem Memos - n. Something constructive but hard to control; a fresh
of breath air (sic). That's another Tandem Memos. A phrase to worry
middle management. It refers to the computer-based conference (widely
distributed in 1981) in which many technical personnel expressed
dissatisfaction with the tools available to them at that time, and
also constructively criticized the way products were [are]
developed. The memos are required reading for anyone with a serious
interest in quality products. If you have not seen the memos, try
reading the November 1981 Datamation summary.
A little later, I met John Boyd and sponsored his briefings at IBM.
another To Be or To Do version:
There are two career paths in front of you, and you have to choose
which path you will follow. One path leads to promotions, titles, and
positions of distinction.... The other path leads to doing things that
are truly significant for the Air Force, but the rewards will quite
often be a kick in the stomach because you may have to cross swords
with the party line on occasion. You can't go down both paths, you
have to choose. Do you want to be a man of distinction or do you want
to do things that really influence the shape of the Air Force? To be
or to do?, that is the question. Colonel John R. Boyd, USAF 1927-1997
From the dedication of Boyd Hall, United States Air Force Weapons
School, Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada. 17 September 1999
John Boyd, January 23, 1927 - March 9, 1997, tribute in USNI
Proceedings,
http://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/1997-07/genghis-john
for those w/o membership ... it is also here:
http://radio-weblogs.com/0107127/stories/2002/12/23/genghisJohnChuckSpinneysBioOfJohnBoyd.html
Datamation put a slightly different spin on "Tandem Memos", Emmett,
R. 1981, "VNET or gripenet?" Datamation, Vol. 27, No. 12 (November),
pp.48-58. Lots of online citations but web search doesn't turn up
copy. They garbled it with the "gripenet" bit ... however, end of the
article (pg58):
There is a rumor that Wheeler may leave IBM and join his former
colleagues on the outside as consultant. "Right now he's pure gold
whatever way you slice him up," says one source. "IBM needs him and
the outside companies would probably pay anything to get him." However
you look at this ug of war, it can only be good news for IBM's VM
users.
"An enormous shop window is opening for them." said one observer. "And
what they'll discover in that window is a very powerful tool to
control their own destinies--and not have IBM do it."
... snip ...
When still undergraduate, I was one of 1st half dozen employees hired into Boeing hdqtrs to help form Boeing Computer Services (consolidate all dataprocessing into independent business unit to better monetize the investment) ... had mid-level title and could park in hdqtrs lot at Boeing field. There was lots of politics, the CFO running the effort, at the time only had 360/30 for doing payroll ... and had to contend with the head of Renton datacenter. I thought that Renton may have had the largest operation at the time with something between $200M-$300M (60s dollars) in IBM 360s. When I started, 360/65s were arriving in Renton faster than they could be installed, constant boxes staged in the hallways around the machine room.
Later I would sponsor Boyd's briefings at IBM. He would say that he
was vocal about the sensors on the trail wouldn't work ... so possibly
as punishment, they put him in command.of."spook base" (about the time
I was at Boeing) ... he would say it had the largest air conditioned
bldg. in that part of the world. One of Boyd's biographies says that
"spook base" was $2.5B "windfall" for IBM (again 60s dollars, ten
times Boeing Renton). "Spook Base" reference gone 404, but still lives
on at the wayback machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20030212092342/http://home.att.net/~c.jeppeson/igloo_white.html
Boeing also had plan to replicate Renton up at the new 747 plant at Paine field ... there was disaster scenario where Mt. Rainier heats up and a resulting mud slide takes out the Renton datacenter (the cost to Boeing being w/o the datacenter for week would be more than the cost of the datacenter).
cmc posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#cmc
internal network posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
Boyd posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html
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From: Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The 1970s engineering recession Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 07:28:13 -0800 (PST)re:
1999, I had been asked to help prevent the coming economic mess. Securitize d mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mor tgages (posterchild were office bldg mortgages in Dallas/Ft.Worth area that turned out to be empty lots). I was told there were some investment banker s had walked away "clean" from the S&L crisis and were then running Interne t IPO mills (invest a few million, hype for year or two, IPO for a couple b illion, should then fail leaving the field clear for the next round of IPOs ). They were then predicted to next get into securitized mortgages (again).
I was to improve the integrity of the securitized mortgages supporting docu ments as countermeasure. However, they then find that they can pay rating a gencies for triple-A (even when rating agencies knew they weren't worth tri ple-A). Triple-A trumps supporting documents and they can start doing no-do cumentation, liar loans, securitize, pay for triple-A and sell off into the market (initially as fast as they can be made) .... enabling over $27T 200 1-2008.
"economic mess" posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#economic.mess
(Triple-A rated) toxic CDOs posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
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From: Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The 1970s engineering recession Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 10:15:11 -0800 (PST)re:
Later SEC trivia ... SEC wasn't enforcing Sarbanes-Oxley about jailing executives and auditors for public company fraudulent financial filings ... didn't do anything about SOX provisions to do something about credit rating agencies which played the major role in the economic mess selling triple-A ratings for things they knew weren't worth triple-A, major factor enabling over $27T in (triple-A rated) toxic CDOs.
Later in the congressional Madoff hearings, they had testimony from the person that had tried unsuccessfully to get SEC to do something about Madoff. They asked him if new regulations were needed. He said that while new regulations might be needed, more important (possibly since SEC wasn't enforcing existing regulations) would be transparency and visibility.
In 2002, congress did let the fiscal responsibility act lapse (spending couldn't exceed tax revenue, on its way to eliminating all Federal debt). 2010 CBO report that 2003-2009, tax revenue was cut $6T and spending increased $6T for $12T budget gap compared to fiscal responsibility act (first time taxes were cut to not pay for two wars, completely different republican congress than the republican congress that had originally passed the act).
Report also included that of the increase in DOD spending there was over one trillion that they couldn't find anything to show for (this is totally different than things like the $60B in pallets shrink wrapped $100 bills airlifted to Iraq ... and disappears after arriving in Iraq). Since then the republican house tax & budget committees haven't restored the tax and only modest cuts in spending so deficit continued to increase at about $1T/year (down from the nearly $2T/year deficit increase 2003-2009) ... so deficit is now $20T.
This was possibly confluence of Federal Reserve and wallstreet wanting huge deficit, DOD wanting huge spending increase, and special interests wanting huge tax cuts. W/o the huge federal debt, the too big to fail wouldn't be able to use trillions in Federal Reserve ZIRP funds to buy trillions in treasuries.
Enron posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
Sarbanes-Oxley posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
Financial reporting fraud posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud.fraud
Fiscal Responsibility Act posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act
ZIRP posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#zirp
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From: Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The 1970s engineering recession Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 10:23:16 -0800 (PST)re:
Also last decade ... last decade there was enormous increase in outsourcing to for-profit companies ... especially those that had been bought by private-equity companies ... as in the case of the OPM breach as well as Snowden's employer and companies that were suppose to be doing security clearances (but found to be filling out the paperwork but not actually doing the background checks). Companies in the private-equity mills are under intense pressure to cut corners and turn over as much money as possible to their owners. Part of it is also that beltway bandits can't use money from gov. contracts to lobby congress .... however private-equity companies found that they could buy up gov. contractors and do as much lobbying as they wanted (on behalf of the companies they bought)
Just the intelligence community ... 70% of the budget and over half
the people
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us
which significantly contributes to the rapidly spreading success of
failure culture (more profit from series of failures)
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/
The private-equity that owned the OPM contractor was also getting
billions in no-bid IRAQ contracts last decade.
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/06/24/opm-contractor-veritas
Dataprocessing triva: AMEX was in competition with KKR for
private-equity take-over of RJR, and KKR wins. KKR runs into trouble
and hires away president of AMEX to help
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarians_at_the_Gate:_The_Fall_of_RJR_Nabisco
IBM goes into the red and was being organized into the 13 "baby blues"
in preparation for breaking up the company. The board then hires the
former AMEX president who reverses the breakup using some of the same
techniques used at RJR
https://web.archive.org/web/20181019074906/http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml
Barbarians at the Capitol: Private Equity, Public Enemy
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/10/barbarians-capitol-private-equity-public-enemy/
Lou Gerstner, former ceo of ibm, now heads the Carlyle Group, a
Washington-based global private equity firm whose 2006 revenues of $87
billion were just a few billion below ibm's. Carlyle has boasted
George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, and former Secretary of State James
Baker III on its employee roster
... snip ...
Which acquires beltway bandit that will employ Snowden.
at least by the 80s, financial & gov. were using multi-party operations as countermeasure to insider threats for high value operations. A couple months after the Snowden event, the NSA director mentioned something about having to move to multi-party operations (apparently having been eliminated in the move to outsourcing to private-equity for-profit companies ... looking to increase their profit margin)
posts mentioning private-equity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity
posts mentioning former AMEX president, IBM CEO, etc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
posts referencing pensions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#pensions
success of failure posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failuree
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From: Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The 1970s engineering recession Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 11:07:29 -0800 (PST)re:
Former CIA director and then VP repeatedly claimed that he knew nothing about
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_affair
because he was fulltime administration point person deregulating financial industry ... creating S&L crisis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
along with other members of his family
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan
and another
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0D81E3BF937A25753C1A966958260
another family member presides over the economic mess last decade, 70 times larger than the S&L crisis. S&L crisis had 30,000 criminal referrals and 1000 criminal convictions with jailtime, proportionally the economic mess should have 2.1M criminal referrals and 70,000 criminal convictions.
S&L crisis post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#s&l.crisis
economic mess
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#economic.mess
not just S&L crisis and the economic mess ...
Earlier, "team b" had done Soviet military analysis justifying huge US
defense spending increase, but CIA director Colby wouldn't agree. Then
White House Chief of Staff Rumsfeld replaces Colby with somebody that
will agree (future VP and then Pres).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_B
Rumsfeld then resigns to become SECDEF and is replaced by his
assistant Cheney. Then during the 80s, Rumsfeld was playing major role
supporting Iraq. US was supporting Iraq in the Iran/Iraq war including
WMDs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran-Iraq_war
Last decade, son of former CIA director, VP, and President, is now
President, Rumsfeld is SECDEF (again) and Cheney is VP (had been
SECDEF when father was president). One of the former "team b" members
is now asst. SECDEF and primary architect of Iraq strategy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wolfowitz
Military-Industrial complex wants the Iraq invasion so badly that they
are telling former soviet block countries if they vote for the Iraq
invasion in the UN they will get NATO membership and directed
appropriation USAID (that can only spent to buy US military arms)
https://www.amazon.com/Prophets-War-Lockheed-Military-Industrial-ebook/dp/B0047T86BA/
White House Chief of Staff Card's cousin was dealing with Iraq in the
UN and given proof that the WMDs (tracing back to the US in Iran/Iraq
war) were decommissioned. The cousin supplied the information to the
white house and then was locked up in military hospital. The cousin
finally gets out and publishes a book in 2010
https://www.amazon.com/EXTREME-PREJUDICE-Terrifying-Story-Patriot-ebook/dp/B004HYHBK2/
The decommissioned WMDs had been found early in the invasion, but the
information was classified until fall of 2014 (four years after Card's
cousin published book about the decommissioned WMDs).
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html
From the law of unintended consequences, in the Iraq invasion, military was told to bypass ammo dumps looking for (the non-existent/decommissioned) WMDs. When they get around to going back, over a million metric tons had disappeared. Later large artillery shells in IEDs were taking out convoys, Bradleys, even Abram M1 tanks.
related IRAQ posts, WMDs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#wmds
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From: Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: It's 1983: What computer would you buy? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 11:27:39 -0800 (PST)re:
online worldwide sales & market support HONE system was in large part
(mostly implemented in APL) configurators ... in fact starting around
mid-70s ... it wasn't possibly to place a mainframe order w/o having
run it thru configurators.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone
recent HONE post earlier today in "A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095", VM thrashing thread .... also the (APL analytical system model) performance predictor ... enter detail configuration and workload (even system monitor information) ... and then ask "what if" questions about changing configuration and/or workload
I used communication group 37x5 configurator to match baby bell
configuration where they had implemented SNA/VTAM/NCP emulation on
Series/1. (aggregate 2700 3270 messages/sec) old post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#67
the communication group then tried a lot of FUD to invalidate the
comparison ... but their effort became increasingly difficult when I
should them it used their 37x5 configurator (while a HONE APL
configurator group did most of the APL implementation ... all the
information came from the product groups as well as the product groups
had to verify and sign off on the implementation)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#3tier
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