From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:26:23 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
Quote Of The Day
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-17/quote-day
• BERNANKE: WALL STREET HASN'T BENEFITED MORE THAN MAIN STREET
• BERNANKE SAYS FED `VERY FOCUSED' ON MAIN STREET
... snip ...
has graph of corporate profits overlayed on percentage of US population with a job.
other bernanke related from today:
Ben Bernanke Word Cloud
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-17/ben-bernanke-word-cloud
The Importance Of Being Ben
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-17/importance-being-ben
Live, From Congress, It's "Delivering Beta" With Ben Bernanke
http://www.zerohedge.com/node/476505
and other jobs related:
McDonalds Tells Workers to Toil 70 Hours a Week, Use Ripoff Payroll
Cards as Part of "Financial Literacy"
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/07/mcdonalds-tells-workers-to-toil-70-hours-a-week-use-ripoff-payroll-cards-as-part-of-financial-literacy.html
there has been a number of recent articles about employers moving to payroll cards which carry preditory fees,
Feds investigating McDonald's franchise over payroll debit cards
http://thetimes-tribune.com/news/feds-investigating-mcdonald-s-franchise-over-payroll-debit-cards-1.1509690
Walmart, McDonalds, Walgreens Cheating Hourly Workers? NY AG
Investigates Use Of Prepaid Payroll Cards
http://www.forbes.com/sites/halahtouryalai/2013/07/03/walmart-mcdonalds-walgreens-cheating-hourly-workers-ny-ag-investigates-use-of-prepaid-payroll-cards/
Prepaid Cards: Loaded with Fees, Weak on Protections
https://web.archive.org/web/20120522202159/http://www.consumersunion.org/pdf/Prepaid_Cards_Report_2012.pdf
note that after Bernanke had been giving free trillions to the too-big-to-fail for awhile ... he came out and said that he had anticipated that they would turn around and loan it to mainstreet ... but they weren't ... they were just buying treasuries and pocketing the money ... and Bernanke claimed he had no way to force the too-big-to-fail to loan money to mainstreet ... but that didn't stop him from giving out the free money.
recently referenced
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#80 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#89 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
other past posts mentioning Bernanke:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#50 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#42 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#65 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#90 subprime write-down sweepstakes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#30 subprime write-down sweepstakes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#77 Do you think the change in bankrupcy laws has exacerbated the problems in the housing market leading more people into forclosure?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#38 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#73 lack of information accuracy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#76 lack of information accuracy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#1 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#16 Fraud due to stupid failure to test for negative
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#26 Fraud due to stupid failure to test for negative
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#22 Is it time to put banking executives on trial?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#30 I need insight on the Stock Market
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#36 Bernanke Says Regulators Must Protect Against Systemic Risks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#40 Bernanke Says Regulators Must Protect Against Systemic Risks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#45 Bernanke Says Regulators Must Protect Against Systemic Risks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#46 Bernanke Says Regulators Must Protect Against Systemic Risks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#57 Lack of bit field instructions in x86 instruction set because of patents ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#38 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#43 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#47 TARP Disbursements Through April 10th
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#49 Is the current downturn cyclic or systemic?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#53 What every taxpayer should know about what caused the current Financial Crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#56 What's your personal confidence level concerning financial market recovery?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#65 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#1 Future of Financial Mathematics?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#3 Do the current Banking Results in the US hide a grim truth?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#5 Do the current Banking Results in the US hide a grim truth?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#27 Flawed Credit Ratings Reap Profits as Regulators Fail Investors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#31 OODA-loop obfuscation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#34 Board Visibility Into The Business
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#37 Future of Financial Mathematics?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#53 We Can't Subsidize the Banks Forever
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#3 Consumer Credit Crunch and Banking Writeoffs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#25 The Paradox of Economic Recovery
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#29 Analysing risk, especially credit risk in Banks, which was a major reason for the current crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#49 IBM to Build Europe, Asia 'Smart Infrastructure'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#60 In the USA "financial regulator seeks power to curb excess speculation."
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#35 what is mortgage-backed securities?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#13 UK issues Turning apology (and about time, too)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#49 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#37 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#61 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#64 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#52 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#53 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#87 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#4 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#46 not even sort of about The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#22 In the News: SEC storms the 'Castle'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#29 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#38 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#17 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#66 No command, and control
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#24 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#26 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#28 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#30 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#24 rating agencies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#4 Geithner, Bernanke have little in arsenal to fight new crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#5 AIG's Bank Of America Suit Puts Trashy Paper On Display
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#18 What Uncle Warren doesn't mention
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#23 Wall Street Aristocracy Got $1.2 Trillion in Fed's Secret Loans
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#25 Wall Street Aristocracy Got $1.2 Trillion in Fed's Secret Loans
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#53 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#56 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#59 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#73 Who was the Greatest IBM President and CEO of the last century
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#10 Cracking the code
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#39 Kabuki Theater 1603-1629
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#67 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#68 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#73 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#2 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#68 Bernanke Hearings
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#75 Banks Awash in Cash, Which Isn't Good News
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#42 The Godfather of Kathmandu
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#48 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#49 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#57 The Mortgage Crisis---Some Inside Views
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#82 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#4 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#26 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#37 Civilization, doomed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#42 Speed: Re: Soups
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#66 Civilization, doomed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#80 How Pursuit of Profits Kills Innovation and the U.S. Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#7 FDR explains one dimension of our problem: bankers own the government
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#37 No Jail In UBS Tax Evasion Case
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#70 No One Telling Who Took $586B in Fed Swaps
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#86 Congress as Kabuki Theater
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#93 World faces 1930-type Depression
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#99 Stop SOPA! A Plea from the Inventors of the Internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#109 Zombie Banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#136 Gingrich urged yes vote on controversial Medicare bill
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#48 Fed's image tarnished by newly released documents
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#5 The round wheels industry is heading for collapse
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#13 We are on the brink of a historic decision [referring to defence cuts]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#15 The PC industry is heading for collapse
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#65 Why Wall Street Should Stop Whining
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#67 How Economists Contributed to the Financial Crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#37 US real-estate has lost $7T in value
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#39 Greek knife to Wall Street
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#44 New Citigroup Looks Too Much Like the Old One
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#45 Fannie, Freddie Charge Taxpayers For Legal Bills
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#46 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#52 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#53 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#55 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#45 Banks Repaid Fed Bailout With Other Fed Money: Government Report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#48 IBM cuts more than 1,000 U.S. workers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#8 America needs a 2-page tax code
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#40 Who Increased the Debt?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#53 GOLD STANDARD GOOD OR BAD?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#58 Word Length
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#70 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#5 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#26 US economic update. Everything that follows is a result of what you see here
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#33 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#36 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#50 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#14 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#17 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#60 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#65 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#16 Breakdown of the $26 Trillion the Federal Reserve Handed Out to Save Incompetent, but Rich Investors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#64 Is there a connection between your strategic and tactical assertions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#75 What's the bigger risk, retiring too soon, or too late?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#64 Singer Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#65 Singer Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#32 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#33 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#48 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#50 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#69 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#18 U.S. Treasury, AIG are poised to sever ties
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#54 UBS Faces Potential LIBOR Fine Of $1 Billion -- Twice What Barclays Paid
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#20 The Big Fail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#21 AIG may join bailout lawsuit against U.S. government
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#51 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#62 Taleb On "Skin In The Game" And His Disdain For Public Intellectuals
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#47 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#12 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#26 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#41 Danger as stock-market "Greedometer" flashes red
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#56 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#2 Too-Big-To-Fail, Too-Big-To-Prosecute, Too-Big-To-Jail, not just a problem in the USA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#8 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#19 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#42 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#30 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#31 Fed proposes annual assessments for large financial companies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#48 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#63 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#81 Ireland feels the heat from Apple tax row
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#65 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes an Architecture Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:49:48 -0400Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> writes:
in the 1990 C4 task force meetings ... they explained that standard product cycle was 7-8yrs ... the industry somewhat obfuscated it by running to development operations in parallel, offset 3-4yrs.
the foreign competition, when faced with import quotas realized that they could sell that many high end cars (rather than the low-end cars that they had been selling) ... with much higher margins. To adapt, they completely redid the auto industry process cutting the development process to 3-4yrs (from idea to cars rolling off the lines). The import quotas significantly reduced the competition allowing for much greater profit ... however the foreign competition moving from low-end product to high-end product ... also significantly reduced downward price pressure ... further allowing for price increases and increased profits.
by the time of the 1990 c4 meetings, the foreign competition was in the process of cutting the product cycle elapsed time in half again ... to 18-24 months ... while us auto industry was still stuck at 7-8yrs. The us auto industry realized that it wasn't just better engineering ... but more timely engineering to better take advantage of technology advances.
Another example given in the C4 task force meetings of the non-competitiveness of the US 7-8yr product cycle was increasing tight tolerances within the "skin" of an automobile. There were instances where an automobile that had been designed 7yrs earlier and was about ready to start production ... found that many of the automobile parts they were to use, had changed ... and no longer fit within the design dimensions ... requiring lots of redesign/rework.
Having a product cycle that was four times faster allowed them to take advantage of developing technologies ... but also allowed quicker adaptation to changing consumer preferences.
In the 1990 C4 task force meetings they could go into great detail about every aspect of the competitive landscape and what the US needed to do to adapt ... but they still weren't able to change ... and it wasn't because they didn't know what was going on.
The next thing foreign competition after completely redoing the product process and changing product mix ... they then also started moving manufacturing to lots of locations (including the US).
For other drift, in the 80s, I had project I called high-speed data
transport ... and was having gear manufactured over there on the
other side of the pacific. misc. past posts mentioning HSDT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
On some of the visits, some of the electronic companies couldn't help but brag about what they were doing in conjunction with their auto companies and various parts of the technology. They would also show-off some of the electronic consumer goods ... they were in the process of moving to 90day product cycle .... in some cases elapsed time to schedule container shipments and delivery to the US could take half of a product life cycle.
At the time, I was also giving to comment that I could get better and faster technology from $300 cdrom player than I was getting from $12,000 (or even $20,000) modems. I could get things like surface mount technology with automated assemblies as matter of course. Surface mount assembly lines looked almost like chips were being spray painted onto circuit boards.
In the US at the time, there was one operation that sort of simulated surface mount technology ... and they were doing it by taking standard chips and cutting the connectors off flush with the bottom of the chip surface.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:29:08 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
followup
Foodstamps Are Corporate Welfare
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-17/foodstamps-are-corporate-welfare
gov. social programs allowing corporations to pay less than living wage. note that in the 90s ... congress had GAO do study of illegal immigrants and found something similar ... gov. programs effectively subsidizing corporations paying less than living range to illegal immigrants; interestingly enough, congress hasn't asked for update of that 90s study.
past post mentioning gov. social programs subsidizing corporations by
allowing them to pay less than living wage:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#18
references this 1995 gao report
http://www.gao.gov/cgi-bin/getrpt?HEHS-95-133
as well as this report (high cost of cheap labor; basically gov. making
up difference between living wage and what is being paid by corporations)
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes an Architecture Bizarre? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:48:10 -0400greymausg <maus@mail.com> writes:
US gov. has significant influence ... but US cooperating was in the interest of numerous wallstreet & cooperate entities. Even various states are now playing ... setting up financial secrecy laws so criminals can use the jurisdiction to hide funds (the crimes are typically happening elsewhere, but the tax haven jurisdictions are complicit in helping hide the illegal gains).
A Small Victory in the War on Corruption; This week's G8 Summit
brought some small but crucial successes in the effort to cut down on
illicit financial flows.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/06/21/a_small_victory_in_the_war_on_corruption
as i've previously mentioned there was recently huge dump of tax haven
documents
http://www.icij.org/offshore
... appears to be forcing various govs. to take positions publicly
... but it isn't clear that anything actually changes.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#54 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#65 The Real Snowden Question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#81 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
then there are the too-big-to-fail ... also acquiring the labels
too-big-to-prosecute and too-big-to-jail ... getting passes on money
laundering for drug cartels and terrorists:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#24 Little-Noted, Prepaid Rules Would Cover Non-Banks As Wells As Banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#84 The Imaginot Line
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#52 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#55 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#41 Delinquent Homeowners to Get Mortgage Aid from Government
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#22 Slouching toward Weimar
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#44 New Scandal at DoJ as Illegal Guitars End Up In Hands of Mexican Drug Lords
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#53 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#60 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#14 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#49 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#79 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#28 Confidence in banking: the EU500 supernote, or, we're all money launderers now
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#96 Republicans Propose Bill to Treat Mexican Drug Cartels as 'Terrorist Insurgency'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#31 US real-estate has lost $7T in value
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#35 The Dallas Fed Is Calling For The Immediate Breakup Of Large Banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#37 The $30 billion Social Security hack
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#88 Defense acquisitions are broken and no one cares
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#9 JPM LOSES $2 BILLION USD!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#25 This Is The Wall Street Scandal Of All Scandals
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#37 If all of the Americanearned dollars hidden in off shore accounts were uncovered and taxed do you think we would be able to close the deficit gap?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#75 What's the bigger risk, retiring too soon, or too late?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#30 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#24 OCC Confirms that Big Banks are Badly Managed, Lack Adequate Risk Management Controls
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#30 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#48 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#62 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#64 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#4 HSBC's Settlement Leaves Us In A Scary Place
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#34 How Bankers Help Drug Traffickers and Terrorists
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#48 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#49 Bankers Who Made Millions In Housing Boom Misled Investors: Study
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#61 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#6 Live-Blogging Senate Hearing Tomorrow, When J.P. Morgan Chase Will Be Torn a New One
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#42 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#76 IBM Spent A Million Dollars Renovating And Staffing Its Former CEO's Office
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#94 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#86 What Makes a thread about the European debt crisis Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#6 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#11 Secrecy for Sale: Inside the Global Offshore Money Maze
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#46 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#55 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#56 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 08:37:05 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
Savers And The 'Real' $10.8 Trillion Cost Of ZIRP
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-17/savers-and-real-108-trillion-cost-zirp
from above:
The good news behind the bottom 85% of close-to-retiree status Baby
Boomers that participate in the "markets" via sub $50,000 retirement
money is that at some point, the voters might actually get smart and get
mad at how much money has been siphoned from them. Consult the chart
below to see a historical relationship between total savings and amount
of interest income earned on the savings.
... snip ...
this is separate from various industries spinning off least profitable
operations and loading them with all the retirement obligations ...
so the top 1% can skim off the rest. this especially shows up in the
various private equitity deals ... where private equitity loads the
spin-offs with all sorts of debt ... they can even "flip" a company
for less than they paid ... and still walk away with enormous profits
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#54 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#81 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
also one of the issues in race to the bottom with minimum wages ...
the line about making the workers more competitive on the global
market is obfuscation and misdirection ... the implied message of more
competitive pay scale ... is that the companies are more competitive
... which is invalidated when the companies are making the same amount
of revenue (if lower worker pay was part of making the company more
competitive, it should translate into overall corporate price
competitive) ... however numbers show that the savings paid to the
bottom tier is winding up in the pockets of the 1% ... part of the
accelerating inequality
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#2 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: Botnets Unearthed -- The ZEUS BOT Date: 18 July 2013 Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and SecurityBotnets Unearthed -- The ZEUS BOT
In the late '90s, EU FINREAD standard included countermeasure for this
kind of exploit ...
http://www.cen.eu/cen/Sectors/Sectors/ISSS/CWAdownload/Pages/FINREAD.aspx
As consumer chipcards and FINREAD were "imploding" we did several
postmortems with PC/SC business people and various financial
transaction operators. A number of serious missteaps by some pilot
efforts had created the impression in the financial industry that
authentication hardware tokens were not practical in the consumer
market. It turns out that it wasn't the hardware tokens ... but it was
the way that they had been deployed created enormous consumer support
problems that torpedoed the paradigm. past finread posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#finread
what was interesting was in 1995, there were several financial conferences where dial-up banking operations had made presentations about major motivation for move to internet ... which was serious consumer support problems involving serial-port dial-up modems. Five years later, financial hardware token pilots deployed infrastructure with serial-port interfaces ... apparently having completely lost all the institutional knowledge from the dial-up banking operations just five years earlier. This was also at the same time as the industry was moving to USB ... the major motivation behind creation of USB was also the enormous consumer support problems related to personal computer serial-port operations.
As an aside ... I've mentioned serial times that in 1995, it was the consumer dial-up banking operations that were presenting that they were moving to the internet because of the significant consumer support problems involving serial-port dial-up modems. In the same conferences, the cash-management/commercial dial-up banking operations were saying they would never move to the internet; detailing a long list of exploit & security issues ... that continue with us to this day.
misc. past posts mentioning commerical/cash-management dialup banking
claiming that they would *never* move to the internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#32 sizeof() was: The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#11 Public Computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#61 German court finds Bank responsible for malwared PC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#9 Homebanking authentication methods: what's being used by your bank?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#18 Can Smart Cards Reduce Payments Fraud and Identity Theft?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#28 Can Smart Cards Reduce Payments Fraud and Identity Theft?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#31 FC5 Special Workshop CFP: Emerging trends in Online Banking and Electronic Payments
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#64 Do you feel secure with your bank's online banking service?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#65 Barbless
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#26 Return of the Smart Card?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#7 An interesting take on Verified by Visa Policy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#20 IBM forecasts 'new world order' for financial services
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#2 Cyber attackers empty business accounts in minutes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#61 Hacker charges also an indictment on PCI, expert says
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#9 Cyber crooks increasingly target small business accounts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#12 Need new 3270 emulator: SSH, inexpensive, reliable
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#49 Hacker charges also an indictment on PCI, expert says
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#68 Definition of a computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#70 Client Certificate UI for Chrome?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#73 Definition of a computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#3 Hacker charges also an indictment on PCI, expert says
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#44 Nearly 500 People Fall Victim to ATM Skimming Scam
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#65 Crypto dongles to secure online transactions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#56 Crypto dongles to secure online transactions ... addenda
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#59 EU agency runs rule over ID cards for online banking logins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#18 security and online banking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#21 security and online banking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#72 Users still make hacking easy with weak passwords
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#79 Customers risk online banking fraud by reusing bank credentials
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#86 NY Town's Bank Account Hacked; Poughkeepsie Loses $378K in Fraudulent Transfers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#30 Michigan firm sues bank over theft of $560,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#6 Online Banking & Password Theft
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#26 Should the USA Implement EMV?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#27 Should the USA Implement EMV?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#92 Why do most websites use HTTPS only while logging you in...and not for the entire session?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#41 Monet, was Re: A "portable" hard disk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#38 U.K. bank hit by massive fraud from ZeuS-based botnet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#53 Is the ATM still the banking industry's single greatest innovation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#58 memes in infosec IV - turn off HTTP, a small step towards "only one mode"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#82 Nearly $1,000,000 stolen electronically from the University of Virginia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#47 ZeuS attacks mobiles in bank SMS bypass scam
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#48 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#3 RSA Pawned - Black Queen runs amoc behind US lines of defence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#4 1st round in Internet Account Fraud World Cup: Customer 0, Bank 1, Attacker 300,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#65 US Business Banking Cybercrime Wave: Is 'Commercially Reasonable' Reasonable?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#40 Banks blocking more fraudulent money transfers from hijacked business accounts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#23 Benefits of Online Banking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#38 ISBNs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#40 ISBNs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#3 Banks Face Ongoing Cyber Threats
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#13 Two-Factor Authentication - Hardware token or SMS OTP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#54 Speed: Re: Soups
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#56 Using Cross-Channel Fraud Detection
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#52 Banking malware a growing threat, as new variant of Zeus is detected
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#71 Password shortcomings
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#24 ExplicitTacit
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#18 Zeus/SpyEye 'Automatic Transfer' Module Masks Online Banking Theft
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#79 Does Two-Factor Authentication Need Fixing?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#0 Federal appeal court raps bank over shoddy online security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#18 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#57 Yahoo Password Breach: 7 Lessons Learned - Security - Attacks/breaches - Informationweek
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#59 Bank Sues Customer Over ACH/Wire Fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#68 The Myth of Password Complexity & Frequent Change Rules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#73 Is it time to consider a stand-alone PC for online banking?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#94 Gordon Crovitz: Who Really Invented the Internet?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#32 Use another browser - Kaspersky follows suit
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#49 Regulator Tells Banks to Share Cyber Attack Information
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#2 Legal Lessons from PATCO Fraud Case
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#76 relative speeds, was What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: Barclays, Traders Fined $487.9 Million by U.S. Regulator Date: 18 July 2013 Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and SecurityBarclays, Traders Fined $487.9 Million by U.S. Regulator
Blythe Masters' "Get-Out-Of-FERC-Jail-Free" Card May Cost JPMorgan $500mm
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-17/blythe-masters-get-out-ferc-jail-free-card-may-cost-jpmorgan-500mm
from above:
Following Barclays' fine of $453 million by FERC for manipulating
electric energy prices in California (and other Western
markets), it seems the price of infamy is weighing heavy on Blythe
Masters' overlords at JPMorgan in yet another derivative debacle for
the "I invented CDS" queen. As we discussed in great detail here,
FERC's investigations into JPMorgan's actions saw them pursuing
actions against the firm and Ms. Masters.
... snip ...
can't anybody say "ENRON" anymore????
misc. past posts mentioning ENRON
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay10.htm#26 Definese Dept Criticised on Internal Credit Card Fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay10.htm#79 ssl certs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm26.htm#4 Citibank e-mail looks phishy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#10 Deleting files and emails at Arthur Andersen and Enron
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#15 Deleting files and emails at Arthur Andersen and Enron
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#16 Deleting files and emails at Arthur Andersen and Enron
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002h.html#29 Computers in Science Fiction
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002h.html#32 Computers in Science Fiction
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#50 Cirtificate Authorities 'CAs', how curruptable are they to
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#9 IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003h.html#6 IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#52 HSM Functionality for Microsoft, using the Mainframe as the
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#7 OT Global warming
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#14 Dangerous Hardware
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#12a sox, auditing, finding improprieties
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#58 Sarbanes-Oxley
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#0 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#0 The Unexpected Fact about the First Computer Programmer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#50 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#4 Translation of IBM Basic Assembler to C?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#12 Translation of IBM Basic Assembler to C?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#71 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#78 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#87 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#94 Bush - place in history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#96 Bush - place in history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#97 Bush - place in history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#1 The Workplace War for Age and Talent
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#20 IBM's 2Q2008 Earnings
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#80 Fraud due to stupid failure to test for negative
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#68 Blinkenlights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#71 Why is sub-prime crisis of America called the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#3 Blinkenlights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#28 Garbage in, garbage out trampled by Moore's law
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#30 How reliable are the credit rating companies? Who is over seeing them?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#58 HONEY I LOVE YOU, but please cut the cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#73 CROOKS and NANNIES: what would Boyd do?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#36 A great article was posted in another BI group: "To H*** with Business Intelligence: 40 Percent of Execs Trust Gut"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#48 The blame game is on : A blow to the Audit/Accounting Industry or a lesson learned ???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#49 US disaster, debts and bad financial management
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#52 What has the Global Financial Crisis taught the Nations, it's Governments and Decision Makers, and how should they apply that knowledge to manage risks differently in the future?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#53 Credit & Risk Management ... go Simple ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#54 In your opinion, which facts caused the global crise situation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#60 OCR scans of old documents
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#73 What can we learn from the meltdown?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#80 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#0 Audit II: Two more scary words: Sarbanes-Oxley
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#10 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#20 Decision Making or Instinctive Steering?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#29 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#36 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#38 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#39 'WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GLOBAL MELTDOWN'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#42 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#45 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#46 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#48 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#49 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#53 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#55 Who will give Citigroup the KNOCKOUT blow?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#65 is it possible that ALL banks will be nationalized?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#67 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#0 PNC Financial to pay CEO $3 million stock bonus
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#3 Congress Set to Approve Pay Cap of $500,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#7 Are Ctibank's services and products so vital to global economy than no other banks can substitute it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#10 Who will Survive AIG or Derivative Counterparty Risk?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#11 Congress Set to Approve Pay Cap of $500,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#16 The Formula That Killed Wall Street
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#18 HSBC is expected to announce a profit, which is good, what did they do differently?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#22 Is it time to put banking executives on trial?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#28 I need insight on the Stock Market
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#37 NEW SEC (Enforcement) MANUAL, A welcome addition
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#42 Bernard Madoff Is Jailed After Pleading Guilty -- are there more "Madoff's" out there?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#59 Quiz: Evaluate your level of Spreadsheet risk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#61 Quiz: Evaluate your level of Spreadsheet risk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#62 Is Wall Street World's Largest Ponzi Scheme where Madoff is Just a Poster Child?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#63 Do bonuses foster unethical conduct?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#64 Should AIG executives be allowed to keep the bonuses they were contractually obligated to be paid?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#73 Should Glass-Steagall be reinstated?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#0 What is swap in the financial market?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#13 Should we fear and hate derivatives?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#23 Should FDIC or the Federal Reserve Bank have the authority to shut down and take over non-bank financial institutions like AIG?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#35 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#36 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#37 How do you see ethics playing a role in your organizations current or past?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#2 CEO pay sinks - Wall Street Journal/Hay Group survey results just released
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#25 Is FINANCE the institutionalized form whereby (smart?) elites exact payment for the rest's being...?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#29 What is the real basis for business mess we are facing today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#43 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#49 Is the current downturn cyclic or systemic?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#51 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#53 What every taxpayer should know about what caused the current Financial Crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#65 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#1 Future of Financial Mathematics?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#7 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#33 Treating the Web As an Archive
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#34 Board Visibility Into The Business
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#17 REGULATOR ROLE IN THE LIGHT OF RECENT FINANCIAL SCANDALS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#29 Analysing risk, especially credit risk in Banks, which was a major reason for the current crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#54 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#60 In the USA "financial regulator seeks power to curb excess speculation."
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#12 IBM identity manager goes big on role control
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#30 An Amazing Document On Madoff Said To Have Been Sent To SEC In 2005
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#89 Audits V: Why did this happen to us ;-(
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#56 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#25 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#56 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#84 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#77 Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#47 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#61 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#82 Oldest Instruction Set still in daily use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#4 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#36 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#46 not even sort of about The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#54 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#28 Our Pecora Moment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#67 The Python and the Mongoose: it helps if you know the rules of engagement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#46 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#17 History--automated payroll processing by other than a computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#38 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#35 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#36 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#37 WHAT, WHY AND HOW - FRAUD, IMPACT OF AUDIT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#54 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#21 Ernst & Young called to account -- should Audit firms be investigated for their role in the crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#29 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#53 Programmer Charged with thieft (maybe off topic)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#23 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#7 I actually miss working at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#9 I actually miss working at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#36 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#38 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#56 In your opinon, what is the highest risk of financial fraud for a corporation ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#35 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#52 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#62 Mixing Auth and Non-Auth Modules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#64 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#86 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#5 How they failed to catch Madoff
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#40 Fight Fraud with Device ID
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#47 Lords: Auditors guilty of 'dereliction of duty'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#52 Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#25 US Housing Crisis Is Now Worse Than Great Depression
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#41 Delinquent Homeowners to Get Mortgage Aid from Government
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#66 Senate Democrats Ask House to Boost SEC Funding
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#19 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#25 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#67 U.S. can't account for $8.7 billion of Iraq's money: audit
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#38 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#41 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#15 Is the SEC Covering Up Wall Street Crimes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#20 Study shows powerful corporations really do control the world's finances
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#22 Slouching toward Weimar
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#30 Regulators seek to plug derivatives data gaps
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#37 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#54 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#60 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#8 The True Cost of 9/11 -- Includes 18 Veteran Suicides a Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#74 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#18 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#33 Deloitte sued for $7.6 billion, accused of missing fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#1 Banks Awash in Cash, Which Isn't Good News
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#41 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#49 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#79 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#86 PDCA vs. OODA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#62 Civilization, doomed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#0 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#9 The Dumbest Idea In The World: Maximizing Shareholder Value
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#24 Case Study: SOX IT Compliance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#29 21st Century Management approach?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#72 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#87 Wall St likes your amnesia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#130 vampires in financial infrastructure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#137 The High Cost of Failing Artificial Hips
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#147 The Myth of Work-Life Balance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#1 The war on terabytes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#18 SEC v. Citigroup, How to Avoid (Greater) Disaster
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#26 What's your favorite quote on "accountability"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#70 Regulatory Agency logo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#44 What's the most interesting thing you do in your non-work life?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#53 Can America Lead the World's Fight Against Corruption?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#54 The New Age Bounty Hunger -- Showdown at the SEC Corral
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#87 The Benefit and The Burden
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#0 New theory of moral behavior may explain recent ethical lapses in banking industry
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#13 Study links ultrafast machine trading with risk of crash
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#25 Goldman Sachs P.R. Chief's Accidental Exit Interview
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#31 US real-estate has lost $7T in value
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#45 Fannie, Freddie Charge Taxpayers For Legal Bills
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#54 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#5 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#16 IBM cuts more than 1,000 U.S. Workers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#25 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#30 Senators Who Voted Against Ending Big Oil Tax Breaks Received Millions From Big Oil
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#57 speculation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#66 Predator GE: We Bring Bad Things to Life
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#74 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#84 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#91 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#6 Adult Supervision
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#59 Why Hasn't The Government Prosecuted Anyone For The 2008 Financial recession?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#67 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#77 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#78 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#31 How do you feel about the fact that today India has more IBM employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#42 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#41 Lawmakers reworked financial portfolios after talks with Fed, Treasury officials
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#94 Naked emperors, holy cows and Libor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#36 UH-OH: $220 Million May Be Missing From Brokerage
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#60 Auditors All Fall Down; PFGBest and MF Global Frauds Reveal Weak Watchdogs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#38 Four Signs Your Awesome Investment May Actually Be A Ponzi Scheme
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#89 Auditors Don't Know Squat!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#0 Quelle Surprise! SEC Plans to Make the World Safer for Fraudsters, Push Through JOBS Act Con-Artist-Friendly Solicitation Rules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#14 The growing openness of an organization's infrastructure has greatly impacted security landscape
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#1 STOP PRESS! An Auditor has been brought to task for a failed bank!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#20 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#14 OT: Tax breaks to Oracle debated
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#30 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#64 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#42 Professor Coffee Hits a Nerve at SEC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#49 Insider Fraud: What to Monitor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#41 Adair Turner: A New Debt-Free Money Advocate
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#46 Bankers Who Made Millions In Housing Boom Misled Investors: Study
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#70 Implementing a Whistle-Blower Program - Detecting and Preventing Fraud at Workplace
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#25 Senator Sherrod Brown Drops a Bombshell in Mary Jo White's Hearing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#31 Bank Whistleblower Claims Retaliation And Wrongful Termination
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#64 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#73 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#76 IBM Spent A Million Dollars Renovating And Staffing Its Former CEO's Office
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#59 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#94 KPMG quits as Skechers and Herbalife auditor amid insider trading allegations
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#0 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#1 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#2 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#5 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#24 What Makes a substance Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#34 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#0 JPMorgan Caught in Swirl of Regulatory Woes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#80 'Big four' accountants 'use knowledge of Treasury to help rich avoid tax'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#30 'Big four' accountants 'use knowledge of Treasury to help rich avoid tax'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#52 "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#89 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes an Architecture Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:02:56 -0400Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> writes:
Toyota doing Lean manufacturing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lean_manufacturing
Toyota Production system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Production_System
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#47 z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)
mentions Toyota agile/adaptable ... as well as doing it faster
than the competition ... very much Boyd's OODA-loop
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_loop
as I've periodically mentioned, I sponsored Boyd's briefings
at IBM ... some past posts and various Boyd URLs around the web
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html
discussion of Deming PDCA and Boyd OODA
http://matthewemay.com/mind-of-the-warrior-got-ooda/
References Taichi Ohno and Toyota Production System as example of OODA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Rbb48uUOkqQ
I've periodically pontificated preferring OODA to PDCA in part, because
PDCA seems to pander more to MBAs ... who've been blamed for a lot of
what is wrong in US corporate culture. also OODA has more stress
on speed/rate of the OODA cycle; misc. past posts mentioning PDCA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#90 PDCA vs. OODA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#92 PDCA vs. OODA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#27 PDCA vs. OODA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#34 PDCA vs. OODA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#86 PDCA vs. OODA
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: How long has open source been part of your life? Date: 18 July 2013 Blog: Google+re:
How long has open source been part of your life?
http://opensource.com/life/13/7/poll-how-long-open-source
mid-60s ... big change over was response to litigation ... the
23Jun1969 announcement to start charging for application software
... past posts mentionig 23Jun1969 unbundling announce
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle
more recent: 20 years after Windows 3.11, Linus unveils "Linux for
Workgroups"
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/20-years-after-windows-3-11-linus-unveils-linux-for-workgroups/
and somebody's a.f.c. post last year on number of systems:
Again, Microsoft sells systems in upgrade leaps, and has a ca 3 year
cycle for these sales. In a successful year they may migrate half a
billion systems forward and collect licenses, but on average thwy are
pretty stuck at ca 350 million licenses.
I stick my head out and guess that this year we will see 1 billion new
linuxes for the first time. Android alone will deliver 200
million++. The TVs, GPSes, cars, are all markets in the 100m+ bracket,
and there are several tens of markets in the 40m+ sales, like alarms,
PLSes,cameras, etc etc. 40 m linux systems, that is.
... snip ...
List of Linux distributions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions
Chromium OS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_OS
Embedded Linux
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embedded_Linux
Android (operating system)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28operating_system%29
Linux adoption
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_adoption
List of Linux adopters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_adopters
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes an Architecture Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:47:52 -0400jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
most of the lobbying money has been spent since 2007 keeping carried interest loop-hole
this is recent article about undoing hedge fund tax as capitable gain
House Votes to Eliminate Hedge Fund Tax Break
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/29/business/29carried.html
from above:
The plan approved by the House, which overcame strong lobbying pressure
from Wall Street, amounted to a compromise that would tax 75 percent of
carried interest as ordinary income and 25 percent as capital gains. It
is expected to raise more than $17 billion in tax revenue over the next
decade.
... snip ...
more recent on trying to close carried-interest tax rate
A Costly and Unjust Perk for Financiers
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/25/opinion/carried-interest-an-unjust-privilege-for-financiers.html
from above:
Of the many injustices that permeate America's byzantine tax code, few
are as outrageous as the tax rate on "carried interest" -- the profits
made by private equity and hedge fund managers, as well as venture
capitalists and partners in real estate investment trusts. This huge tax
benefit enriches an already privileged sliver of financiers and violates
basic standards of fairness and common sense.
... snip ...
wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carried_interest
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:38:26 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
and another possible consequence of federal free money ... fueling stock market bubble similar to '29 (fueled by "Brokers' Loans")
Stock Prices Are Outrunning Corporate Profits: When Has This Happened
Before?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-18/stock-prices-are-outrunning-corporate-profits-when-has-happened
from Pecora Hearings:
BROKERS' LOANS AND INDUSTRIAL DEPRESSION
For the purpose of making it perfectly clear that the present
industrial depression was due to the inflation of credit on brokers'
loans, as obtained from the Bureau of Research of the Federal Reserve
Board, the figures show that the inflation of credit for speculative
purposes on stock exchanges were responsible directly for a rise in
the average of quotations of the stocks from sixty in 1922 to 225 in
1929 to 35 in 1932 and that the change in the value of such Stocks
listed on the New York Stock Exchange went through the same identical
changes in almost identical percentages.
... snip ...
and related item:
Guest Post: Is America's Social Contract Broken?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-18/guest-post-americas-social-contract-broken
from above:
The Social Contract is broken not by wealth inequality per se but by the
illegitimate process of wealth acquisition, i.e. the state has tipped
the scales in favor of the few behind closed doors and routinely ignores
or bypasses the intent of the law even as the state claims to be
following the narrower letter of the law.
... snip ...
i.e. deck is stacked for the 1%
recent posts mentioning Pecora hearings:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#51 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#57 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#35 Adair Turner: A New Debt-Free Money Advocate
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#66 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#28 Senator Sherrod Brown Drops a Bombshell in Mary Jo White's Hearing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#94 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#7 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#8 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#40 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#86 What Makes a thread about the European debt crisis Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#69 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Greenbar Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 18 Jul 2013 14:50:31 -0700phil@VOLTAGE.COM (Phil Smith) writes:
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Greenbar Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 18 Jul 2013 16:40:49 -0700lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) writes:
were setup shortly after 23Jun69 unbundling announcement ... some
past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle
to give branch office SEs place to practice with operating systems.
prior to unbundling, apprentice SEs could get training and experience as part of large SE teams at customer location. after unbundling, SE time was charge for ... and nobody could figure out how to not charge for the apprentice SE time. HONE initially was several CP67 virtual machine datacenters in the US with dialin from branch offices.
the science center ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
ported apl\360 to cms for cms\apl. It included APIs for CMS system services (like file i/o ... which didn't exist in apl\360) and allowed apl workspace size to be as large as virtual memory (typical apl\360 workspace size was limited to 16kbytes) ... which really opened up APL for real-world use (one of the remote users of cambridge system was armonk business planners ... that loaded the most valuable corporate data on the cambridge cp67 system ... all the detailed customer information ... using APL for business modeling ... this required some security considerations ... since cambridge also had students, staff, professors use from local Boston/Cambridge univ).
HONE then started delivery APL-based sales&marketing support tools ... which eventually came to dominate all HONE use ... and the original branch SE use quickly dwindled away.
In the mid-70s, the US HONE datacenters consolidated in bay area (and by this time had moved from cp67 to vm370) ... trivia later new bldg. would be built next door and Facebook moved in ... before moving across town to the old SUN campus.
One of my hobbies was production systems for internal datacenters ... one of my longtime customers was HONE ... not only US ... but US HONE system was cloned at multiple locations around the world.
In any case, found in box ... 18May1977 printed output from HONE1 system ... the output is printed on the white reverse side of greenbar paper; it is the RSCS RL3PLC15 manual as well as output of all the nodes on the internal network. First part of the internal network output is box diagram ... one box per node with printed lines for each network connection (1403/3211 printer) ... followed by one line for each node listing with node name, location on the network node "map", machine model, operating system, and local contact number.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes revisionist 19th century history Bizarre? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 10:13:10 -0400Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> writes:
burning washington
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_Washington
mentions the patent office was only bldg left untouched.
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: Barclays, Traders Fined $487.9 Million by U.S. Regulator Date: 19 July 2013 Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Securityre:
and now the "ENRON" comment: Chase, Once Considered "The Good Bank,"
Is About to Pay Another Massive Settlement
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/chase-once-considered-the-good-bank-is-about-to-pay-another-massive-settlement-20130718
from above:
Chase is about to pay yet another ginormous settlement for cheating
and stealing from the public. According to the Wall Street Journal,
the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) will fine Chase "close
to $1 billion" for manipulating energy prices in Enron-esque fashion
in Michigan and California
... snip ...
What happened to Sarbanes-Oxley? ... rhetoric in congress getting SOX passed was that it would prevent future ENRONs & WORLDCOMs and top executives and their auditors were guaranteed to do jail time. Of course it needed SEC to do something (SOX also had SEC doing something about the rating agencies ... which played major pivotal role in the financial crisis).
With all the talk about captured regulatory agencies ... falling back to token fines (even when they sound large ... they are trivial compared to amounts involved) and nobody doing jail time. Seen on the internet: ENRON was dry run and worked so well that it has become institutionalized
Apparently even GAO thought that SEC wasn't doing anything and started doing reports of public company fraudulent financial filings ... even showing uptic after SOX.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:28:23 -0400Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
past two days in (linkedin closed) financial, crime risk, fraud and
security risk:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#6 Barclays, Traders Fined $487.9 Million by U.S. Regulator
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#14 Barclays, Traders Fined $487.9 Million by U.S. Regulator
Barclays, Traders Fined $487.9 Million by U.S. Regulator
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-16/barclays-traders-fined-487-9-million-by-u-s-regulator.html
Blythe Masters' "Get-Out-Of-FERC-Jail-Free" Card May Cost JPMorgan $500mm
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-17/blythe-masters-get-out-ferc-jail-free-card-may-cost-jpmorgan-500mm
from above:
Following Barclays' fine of $453 million by FERC for manipulating
electric energy prices in California (and other Western
markets), it seems the price of infamy is weighing heavy on Blythe
Masters' overlords at JPMorgan in yet another derivative debacle for
the "I invented CDS" queen. As we discussed in great detail here,
FERC's investigations into JPMorgan's actions saw them pursuing
actions against the firm and Ms. Masters.
... snip ...
can't anybody say "ENRON" anymore????
and now the "ENRON" comment: Chase, Once Considered "The Good Bank,"
Is About to Pay Another Massive Settlement
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/chase-once-considered-the-good-bank-is-about-to-pay-another-massive-settlement-20130718
from above:
Chase is about to pay yet another ginormous settlement for cheating
and stealing from the public. According to the Wall Street Journal,
the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) will fine Chase "close
to $1 billion" for manipulating energy prices in Enron-esque fashion
in Michigan and California
... snip ...
What happened to Sarbanes-Oxley? ... rhetoric in congress getting SOX passed was that it would prevent future ENRONs & WORLDCOMs and top executives and their auditors were guaranteed to do jail time. Of course it needed SEC to do something (SOX also had SEC doing something about the rating agencies ... which played major pivotal role in the financial crisis).
With all the talk about captured regulatory agencies ... falling back to token fines (even when they sound large ... they are trivial compared to amounts involved) and nobody doing jail time. Seen on the internet: ENRON was dry run and worked so well that it has become institutionalized
Apparently even GAO thought that SEC wasn't doing anything and started doing reports of public company fraudulent financial filings ... even showing uptic after SOX.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:47:39 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
trillions of fed free money fueling too-big-to-fail speculation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#10 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
and followup from today
Art Cashin On 100 Years Of Fed Trial And Error And Error And Error
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-19/art-cashin-100-years-fed-trial-and-error-and-error-and-error
references
Penitence after accusations of error: 100 Years of Monetary Policy at
the U.S. Federal Reserve
http://www.scribd.com/doc/154728732/Trial-And-Error
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 23:24:23 -0400re:
and some more regarding too-big-to-fail (as a result of GLBA repealing Glass-Steagall)
The Verdict Is In: "The Banking Lobby Is Simply Too Strong To
Allow It To Happen"
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-07-19/verdict-%E2%80%9C-banking-lobby-simply-too-strong-allow-it-happen%E2%80%9D
other recent posts mentioning repeal of Glass-Steagall:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#4 What Makes a thread about the European debt crisis Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#8 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#15 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#36 Fed proposes annual assessments for large financial companies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#48 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#30 'Big four' accountants 'use knowledge of Treasury to help rich avoid tax'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#65 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#66 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#18 Louis V. Gerstner Jr. lays out his post-IBM life - Washington Post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#20 Louis V. Gerstner Jr. lays out his post-IBM life
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#41 Is newer technology always better? It almost is. Exceptions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#54 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#76 The failure of cyber defence - the mindset is against it
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#89 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#6 Barclays, Traders Fined $487.9 Million by U.S. Regulator
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes an Architecture Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:20:24 -0400Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> writes:
cutting their reserves in half made them vulnerable to wallstreet
vultures selling junk bonds ... and cutting regulation allowed
S&Ls to be bought up by people that would loot all the assets in
number of ways (gave rise to the references about the best way to rob
a bank is to own one). Recent reference
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#50 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
references that for the S&L crisis, over 700 people did jail time ... this time, even though the magnitude of the looting was much larger ... nobody has done jail time (indication how they have not only bought the regulators but also the rest of the infrastructure)
also has references to the S&L regulator that cut the regulations allowing
S&Ls to be looted
https://www.amazon.com/Two-Trillion-Dollar-Meltdown-Rollers-ebook/dp/B0097DE7DM/
from above:
loc655-67: By the time Pratt had finished, it was possible for a single
individual to take control of an S&L, then organize and lend to multiple
subsidiaries -- for land acquisition, construction, building management,
and the like -- and create his own small real estate empire entirely
with depositors' money.
loc657-58: Or more commonly, to pretend to create a real estate empire
while siphoning deposits into, say, personal jet planes, a favorite in
Texas.
loc660-61: Another owner with a $1.8 billion loan book had bought six
Learjets before the Feds noticed that 96 percent of his loans were
delinquent.
... snip ...
during the S&L crisis, securitized instruments had been used to
obfuscate fraudulent mortgages. in the late 90s we were asked to look at
improving the integrity of supporting documents (as countermeasure to
using securitization to obfuscate faudulent mortgages). an old really
long-winded post from jan1999 on the subject ... mentions gov. is
carrying the S&L bail-out "off-book"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm
later, loan originators discovered that they could pay rating agencies for triple-A rating on securitized mortgages (even when both the sellers and rating agencies knew they were weren't worth triple-A ... testimony from Oct2008 congressional hearings into rating agencies). The triple-A ratings on toxic CDOs allowed loan originators to do no-down, no-documentation, liar loans w/o regard to borrower's qualifications or loan quality (triple-A trumps supporting documentation). W/o supporting documentation, there was no longer any issue about their integrity.
other past posts mentioning "Two Trillion Dollar Meltdown"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#28 A small amount of Evidence. (In which, the end of banking and the rise of markets is suggested.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#45 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#59 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#76 The Two Trillion Dollar Meltdown: Easy Money, High Rollers, and the Great Credit Crash
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#66 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#41 Lawmakers reworked financial portfolios after talks with Fed, Treasury officials
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#89 Auditors Don't Know Squat!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#71 General Mills computer
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes an Architecture Bizarre? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 11:59:31 -0400Morten Reistad <first@last.name> writes:
OECD Proposes Plan for Crackdown on Companies' Tax Avoidance
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print/2013-07-19/oecd-proposes-plan-for-crackdown-on-companies-tax-avoidance.html
Tax evasion, faltering global economy, top G20 agenda
http://www.newagebd.com/detail.php?date=2013-07-19&nid=57573#.UelM0421FjQ
and recent update: Release of offshore records draws worldwide response
http://www.icij.org/blog/2013/04/release-offshore-records-draws-worldwide-response
other recent posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#36 Bank Whistleblower Claims Retaliation And Wrongful Termination
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#27 Secrecy for Sale: Inside the Global Offshore Money Maze
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#46 Secrecy for Sale: Inside the Global Offshore Money Maze
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#89 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#93 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#95 Secrecy for Sale: Inside the Global Offshore Money Maze
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#6 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#69 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#80 'Big four' accountants 'use knowledge of Treasury to help rich avoid tax'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#86 How Wall Street Defanged Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#91 'Big four' accountants 'use knowledge of Treasury to help rich avoid tax'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#25 'Big four' accountants 'use knowledge of Treasury to help rich avoid tax'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#41 Is newer technology always better? It almost is. Exceptions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#55 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#90 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#0 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 21:31:21 -0400Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
Shocking Things Wall Street Financiers Say Off the Record About Their
Bloated, Corrupt Industry
http://www.alternet.org/corporate-accountability-and-workplace/wall-st-financiers-we-are-corrupt
Wall Street in Crisis: A Perfect Storm Looming
http://www.secwhistlebloweradvocate.com/_blog/secwhistlebloweradvocate/post/wall-street-in-crisis-a-perfect-storm-looming
older KPMG corporate fraud study
Corporate Fraud and Misconduct Risks Driven by Pressure to do "Whatever
It Takes"
http://www.informationweek.com/corporate-fraud-and-misconduct-risks-dri/212501185
financial industry corporate fraud something like twice other industries.
past posts mentioning KPMG fraud study
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#27 Garbage in, garbage out trampled by Moore's law
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#29 Let IT run the company!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#30 How reliable are the credit rating companies? Who is over seeing them?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#35 Is American capitalism and greed to blame for our financial troubles in the US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#36 What is the top security threat prediction of 2009?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#47 Executive pay: time for a trim?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#20 Data losses set to soar
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#11 Amid Economic Turbulence, Mainframes Counter IT Cost-Cutting Trend
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#12 Amid Economic Turbulence, Mainframes Counter IT Cost-Cutting Trend
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#17 Fraud -- how can you stay one step ahead?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#25 The recently revealed excesses of John Thain, the former CEO of Merrill Lynch, while the firm was receiving $25 Billion in TARP funds makes me sick
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#36 A great article was posted in another BI group: "To H*** with Business Intelligence: 40 Percent of Execs Trust Gut"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#53 Credit & Risk Management ... go Simple ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#73 What can we learn from the meltdown?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#75 Whistleblowing and reporting fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#36 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#37 How do you see ethics playing a role in your organizations current or past?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#41 Profiling of fraudsters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#24 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#44 Programmer Charged with thieft (maybe off topic)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#26 The first personal computer (PC)
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: 8080 BASIC Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 10:43:53 -0400ClF3 writes:
five years later there was some large pilot programs involving chipcards and cardreaders for internet home banking customers ... that resulted in rapidly spreading rumor that chipcards were not practical in the consumer market. in some post-mortem reuse with the security and PC/SC groups in redmond and various financial industry operations ... it was determined the "real" problem wasn't the chipcards but that there had been a free give away of serial-port cardreaders ... which had resulted in huge number of customer support problems. The significant institutional knowledge about huge customer support costs associated with serial port devices had managed to evaporate in short five years. One conjecture was that this was also period that USB was being developed (in large part motivated by the same significant problems with serial-port operations) and institutions thought they could unload large numbers of obsolete serial-port cardreaders
these aborted failed serial-port excursions had resulted in big pullback
from chipcard operations (even tho the real blame was the serial-port
cardreaders) ... including the EU FINREAD standard. misc. past
posts mentioning EU FINREAD:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#finread
misc. past posts mentioning online home dialup banking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#dialup-banking
there has been a lot of "if-only" conjecture that if it hadn't been for those mis-guided pilots ... the internet would be suffering from much less financial fraud and exploits.
disclaimer: we had chip that we were looking at deploying in this
timeframe ... which also got caught up in the pullback from all chipcard
deployments. old press release at 1999 annual BAI world-wide retail
banking show
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/ansiepay.htm#x959bai
we also did bunch of AADS patents (all assigned) in the area
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadssummary.htm
NACHA was also doing AADS pilot that got caught up in the pullback
(rapidly spreading rumor in the financial industry that chipcards
weren't practical in the consumer market) ... 23July2001 item (final
report 12yrs ago)
https://web.archive.org/web/20070706004855/http://internetcouncil.nacha.org/News/news.html
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 11:47:32 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
other posts mentioning ENRON
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
recent post wallstreet seems to be predisposed to fraud and crime:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#20 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
Fed Reviews Rule on Big Banks' Commodity Trades After Complaints
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-20/fed-reviews-rule-on-big-banks-commodity-trades-after-complaints.html
above references Federal Reserve giving too-big-to-fail approval to speculate in (aka "manipulate") commodities ... plays role in the recent ENRON-like manipulations by too-big-to-fail
A Shuffle of Aluminum, but to Banks, Pure Gold
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/21/business/a-shuffle-of-aluminum-but-to-banks-pure-gold.html?emc=eta1&_r=0
How Goldman Made $5 Billion By Manipulating Aluminum Inventories (and
Copper is Up Next)
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/07/how-goldman-made-5-billion-by-manipulating-aluminum-inventories-and-copper-is-up-next.html
Goldman's Alleged Aluminum Scam
http://www.businessinsider.com/goldmans-alleged-aluminum-scam-2013-7
past posts mentioning too-big-to-fail, too-big-to-prosecute,
too-big-to-jail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
"Vampire Squid" had chapter on "19 secret letters" giving approval for
commodity speculation ... including resulting in the huge spike in oil
over $100 the summer of 2008. misc. past posts mentioning vampire squid:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#27 In the News: SEC storms the 'Castle'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#59 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#6 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#7 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#53 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#55 America's Defense Meltdown
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#59 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#21 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#90 CFTC Limits on Commodity Speculation May Wait Until Early 2012
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#17 Hey all you Old Geeks (and younger ones too), with gas heading towards $6.00/gal, remote support, satellite offices and home office will become more cost effective
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#40 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#46 Sand in Machine Makes a Stable Market
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#76 FIA shocked and outraged after Senator leaks oil trading data
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#89 The Grand Message in the Conceptual Spiral
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#21 HOLLOW STATES and a CRISIS OF CAPITALISM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#18 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#47 Civilization, doomed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#61 Civilization, doomed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#130 vampires in financial infrastructure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#144 Fingerspitzengefühl
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#19 "Buffett Tax" and truth in numbers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#84 A Conversation with Peter Thiel
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#61 Why Republicans Aren't Mentioning the Real Cause of Rising Prices at the Gas Pump
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#57 speculation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#77 Vampire Squid
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#7 Adult Supervision
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#79 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#1 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#92 Naked emperors, holy cows and Libor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#42 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#1 STOP PRESS! An Auditor has been brought to task for a failed bank!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#20 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#15 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#41 Adair Turner: A New Debt-Free Money Advocate
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#34 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#30 'Big four' accountants 'use knowledge of Treasury to help rich avoid tax'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#37 "Highway Patrol" back on TV
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software Date: 21 July 2013 Blog: Old Geekre:
Amazon Cuts Cloud Prices Again
http://www.informationweek.com/financialservices/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=212001050
from above:
Amazon Web Services in its latest price cut is shoring up its defenses
against a serious challenger, IBM as the owner of SoftLayer, while
dealing a body blow to competitors already struggling to keep up
... snip ...
Amazon AWS: Unbeatable cloud competitor? Summary: When Amazon cuts
prices on its cloud services everyone else follows -- and sometimes
their share price also gets cut.
http://www.zdnet.com/amazon-aws-unbeatable-cloud-competitor-7000018320/
Amazon vs IBM: Big Blue meets match in battle for the cloud
http://news.yahoo.com/amazon-vs-ibm-big-blue-120912394.html
from above:
The tech industry maxim that "no one ever got fired for buying IBM" is
a testament to how Big Blue has been the gold standard in computing
services for decades.
... snip ...
Reference to not being fired would also get brought up in FUD campaigns
... IBM moved from rental/lease to sales in the early 70s ... even though the cpu meter tended to hang around for some time.
in the late 60s, there was lots of work on cp67 to handle on-demand computing and minimize the cpu meter running when load was light (as well as dark room operation, automated operator, etc) ... especially expanding into 7x24 off-shift; initially you needed 7x24 availability to encourage off-shift use ... but in the early days ... the off-shift use was so light that it didn't cover the cpu meter lease/rent charges or even on-site human operator.
One of the issues was cpu meter ran whenever CPU and/or any channel
was running. One of the early gimmicks was special "PREPARE" terminal
i/o ccw that would allow channel (and cpu meter) to stop when there
wasn't any incoming characters. misc. past posts on online computing
from the early 60s
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#timeshare
The CPU meter was designed that all activity had to be quiet for at least 400ms before it actually came to a stop. NOTE that well after all rental/lease of machines had ceased and converted to sales ... and the CPU meter no longer played any role in charges ... the MVS operating system still had a timer task that would wake up every 400ms (guaranteed that CPU meter never came to stop as long as MVS was IPL'ed).
modern cloud operators have been the pioneers in green technologies for their mega-datacenters (any of the large mega-datacenters around the world have more processing power than the total aggregate mainframe processing the in the world today). They are also the ones that have pushed the server chip makers into chip power consumption dropping to near zero when chip is idle ... but can come up to full power when "on-demand" requires it.
reference on the web to IBM marketing FUD (fear uncertainty and doubt)
really coming into its own in the 1970s
http://changingminds.org/techniques/resisting/fud.htm
note that in the 70s, IBM had the "Future System" effort to completely
replace 360/370 ... a major motivation was clone controller business
... objective was to make FS so complex and controllers so integrated
that it would significant raise the bar for clone makers. During this
period, 370 efforts were being killed off ... and the lack of 370
products in the time-frame is credited with giving clone processors a
market foothold. also the lack of competitive products is a major
motivation for the FUD marketing. past posts mentioning FS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
when FS imploded, there was a mad rush to get stuff back into 370
product pipelines (both hardware and software) ... Q&D effort to get
out 303x and 3081 with warmed over technologies. 3031 was 158 with new
covers, 3032 was 168 with new covers, and 3033 was 168 logic remapped
to some FS warmed-over 20% faster chips. 3081 was also left-over FS
technology and significantly worse than any of the clone competition
... more detailed reference here
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm
recent references to FUD:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#25 Still think the mainframe is going away soon: Think again. IBM mainframe computer sales are 4% of IBM's revenue; with software, services, and storage it's 25%
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#58 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#76 IBM Spent A Million Dollars Renovating And Staffing Its Former CEO's Office
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#81 How Criticizing in Private Undermines Your Team - Harvard Business Review
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#40 The Mainframe is "Alive and Kicking"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#44 Why does IBM keep saying things like this:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#72 Minicomputer Pricing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#77 IBM going ahead with more U.S. job cuts today
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#85 Before the PC: IBM invents virtualisation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#4 IBM commitment to academia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#63 Making mainframe technology hip again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#83 Metcalfe's Law: How Ethernet Beat IBM and Changed the World
past archive posts in this discussion:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#57 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#58 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#61 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#63 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#69 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#72 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#73 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#74 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#78 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#80 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#6 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#12 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#21 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#43 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#45 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#50 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#93 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#3 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#4 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#5 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#6 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#8 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#10 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#14 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#15 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#14 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#53 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#66 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software Date: 21 July 2013 Blog: Old Geekre:
There is possibly nobody left that had any practical experience from the days of rental ... and mainstream operations (like the MVS 400ms timer pops) worked hard to *NOT* optimize charges and efficiencies
some web references to green datacenters
http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/category/infrastructure/green-data-centers/
http://www.greendatacenternews.org/
article on some of the issues
PGi Green Data Center: Cost Efficiency brings Environmental Savings
http://www.mnn.com/green-tech/research-innovations/sponsorblog/pgi-green-data-center-cost-efficiency-brings
Google article ... includes discussion of PUE ... power usage
effictiveness
http://www.google.com/about/datacenters/efficiency/external/index.html
http://www.google.com/about/datacenters/efficiency/internal/index.html#measuring-efficiency
wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_usage_effectiveness
another article "7 Green Data Center Metrics You Should Know":
http://gigaom.com/2011/05/09/7-green-data-center-metrics-you-should-know/
Uptime Institute: The Average PUE is 1.8
http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2011/05/10/uptime-institute-the-average-pue-is-1-8/
from above:
The PUE metric championed by The Green Grid compares a facility's
total power usage to the amount of power used by the IT equipment,
revealing how much is lost in distribution and conversion. Large users
such as Google, Yahoo, Facebook and Microsoft have reported
industry-leading ratings in the 1.07 to 1.2 range.
... snip ...
Many of the mega-datacenters are publishing open source of their techniques. Also local environmental considerations are playing factor in mega-datacenter location ... avg. year-around temperature and humidity, etc.
from Jan2013: 5 Data Center Trends For 2013
http://www.informationweek.com/hardware/data-centers/5-data-center-trends-for-2013/240145349
New Ultra-Efficient HPC Data Center Debuts
http://www.nrel.gov/news/features/feature_detail.cfm/feature_id=2133
misc. past posts mentioning mega-datacenters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#72 Price of CPU seconds
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#68 VMware Chief Says the OS Is History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#79 Google Data Centers 'The Most Efficient In The World'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#56 IBM drops Power7 drain in 'Blue Waters'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#78 Entry point for a Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#27 A "portable" hard disk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#62 taking down the machine - z9 series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#51 Mainframe Hacking -- Fact or Fiction
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#14 Facebook doubles the size of its first data center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#3 When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#46 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#16 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#17 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#19 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#32 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#8 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#32 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#9 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#75 Check out June 2011 | TOP500 Supercomputing Sites
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#23 Cloud computing - is it a financial con trick?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#70 New IBM Redbooks residency experience in Poughkeepsie, NY
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#11 PKI "fixes" that don't fix PKI
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#35 Last Word on Dennis Ritchie
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#19 Deja Cloud?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#32 Deja Cloud?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#43 Deja Cloud?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#44 Data Areas?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#53 HONE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#55 What is Cloud Computing?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#63 Intel's 1 teraflop chip
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#75 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#86 Clouds in mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#22 1979 SHARE LSRAD Report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#122 Deja Cloud?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#11 Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#20 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#24 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#78 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#80 Article on IBM's z196 Mainframe Architecture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#82 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#6 Cloud apps placed well in the economic cycle
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#41 Are rotating register files still a bad idea?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#2 NASA unplugs their last mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#35 Layer 8: NASA unplugs last mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#41 Layer 8: NASA unplugs last mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#50 Layer 8: NASA unplugs last mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#19 Can Mainframes Be Part Of Cloud Computing?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#20 Mainframes Warming Up to the Cloud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#59 How many cost a cpu second?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#60 How many cost a cpu second?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#15 Can anybody give me a clear idea about Cloud Computing in MAINFRAME ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#16 Think You Know The Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#9 Can anybody give me a clear idea about Cloud Computing in MAINFRAME ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#14 Can anybody give me a clear idea about Cloud Computing in MAINFRAME ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#26 Can anybody give me a clear idea about Cloud Computing in MAINFRAME ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#34 Can anybody give me a clear idea about Cloud Computing in MAINFRAME ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#95 printer history Languages influenced by PL/1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#41 Cloud Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#16 X86 server
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#20 X86 server
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#28 X86 server
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#34 X86 server
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#42 I.B.M. Mainframe Evolves to Serve the Digital World
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#87 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#3 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#13 Intel Confirms Decline of Server Giants HP, Dell, and IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#28 I.B.M. Mainframe Evolves to Serve the Digital World
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#18 System/360--50 years--the future?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#24 System/360--50 years--the future?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#48 Under what circumstances would it be a mistake to migrate applications/workload off the mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#56 Under what circumstances would it be a mistake to migrate applications/workload off the mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#69 Under what circumstances would it be a mistake to migrate applications/workload off the mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#6 Mainframes are still the best platform for high volume transaction processing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#58 What is holding back cloud adoption?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#16 From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#17 Still think the mainframe is going away soon: Think again. IBM mainframe computer sales are 4% of IBM's revenue; with software, services, and storage it's 25%
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#7 mainframe "selling" points
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#8 mainframe "selling" points
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#10 FW: mainframe "selling" points -- Start up Costs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#15 A Private life?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#25 Still think the mainframe is going away soon: Think again. IBM mainframe computer sales are 4% of IBM's revenue; with software, services, and storage it's 25%
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#84 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#91 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#19 Where Does the Cloud Cover the Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#28 Reports: IBM may sell x86 server business to Lenovo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#35 Reports: IBM may sell x86 server business to Lenovo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#37 Where Does the Cloud Cover the Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#51 Reports: IBM may sell x86 server business to Lenovo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#57 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#61 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#70 How internet can evolve
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#73 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#74 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#7 SAS Deserting the MF?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#12 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#21 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#43 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#45 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#40 The Mainframe is "Alive and Kicking"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#60 Making mainframe technology hip again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#66 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: 8080 BASIC Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 17:54:15 -0400re:
there are still quite a large number of card-swipe point-of-sale terminals that do dial-up transactions (a large percentage of point-of-sale terminals still out there are basically PC/XTs with compressed form-factor and flash drive in place of spinning drive with 1200 or 2400 baud modem).
I've mentioned having worked on clone terminal controller as
undergraduate in the 60s ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#360pcm
started out as interdata/3 which then morphed into a interdata/4 for the mainframe channel interface and cluster of interdata/3s for port/line scanners. it was picked up as product by interdata and then sold under perkin-elmer brand (after P/E bought interdata). about a decade ago, i saw such a perkin-elmer clone controller in large financial transaction datacenter handling much of the dialup POS terminal traffic on the east coast.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes an Architecture Bizarre? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 11:06:09 -0400Morten Reistad <first@last.name> writes:
some of the recent articles have reference Cameron's family wealth largely based on tax havens
Cameron family fortune made in tax havens; Revealed: David Cameron's
father built up legal offshore funds in Panama and Geneva
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/apr/20/cameron-family-tax-havens
Cameron under fire for family's tax avoidance; Ian Cameron ran
investment funds in Panama and Geneva aimed at avoiding UK tax.
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/uk-politics/2012/04/cameron-under-fire-familys-tax-avoidance
David Cameron's inherited family wealth 'based in foreign tax havens'
David Cameron's family wealth is partly based on offshore investment
funds based in foreign tax havens, it has been claimed.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/9218119/David-Camerons-inherited-family-wealth-based-in-foreign-tax-havens.html
And has been previously mentioned, as the empire was evaporating after ww2, there seemed to be policy of having city of london and some remaining jurisdiction explicitly operating as tax haven.
David Cameron warns overseas territories on tax; Prime Minister David
Cameron has urged British overseas territories to "get their house in
order" and sign up to international treaties on tax.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22592662
from above:
The 10 territories that received the letter are Bermuda, the British
Virgin Islands, the Cayman Islands, Gibraltar, Anguilla, Montserrat, the
Turks and Caicos Islands, Jersey, Guernsey and the Isle of Man.
... snip ...
recent post mentioning city of london and related british tax havens
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#3 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
and "Treasure Islands: Uncovering the Damage of Offshore Banking and Tax
Havens"
https://www.amazon.com/Treasure-Islands-Havens-Stole-ebook/dp/B004OA6420/
other past posts mentioning tax havens, evasion, avoidance, etc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion
in 2009, there was news that IRS was going after 52,000 wealthy americans hiding income in switzerland (illegal tax evasion). in 2010, there was news that congress was cutting IRS funding for recovering something like $400B in unpaid taxes (this is separate from the "legal" tax-loopholes that special interests have managed to buy from congress). since then there has been news of possibly only a couple prosecutions (out of those 52,000).
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 12:41:43 -0400Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> writes:
in 2010, CBO report was that baseline budget had *all* federal debt reitred by 2010 (not just balanced budget). After fiscal responsible act expired, congress cut tax revenues by $6T and increased spending by $6T for $12T budget gap. A little over $2T of the $6T increase was for DOD, a little over $1T for the wars and couldn't explain what the other $1+T went for.
misc. past posts mentioning comptroller general & his references to
congress destroying the budget last decade
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#comptroller.general
misc. past posts mentioning fiscal responsibility act
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act
this is separate from heavy influence to not enforce existing tax laws
(and $400B in unpaid taxes by 52,000 wealthy americans)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#26 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: more on the 1975 Transaction Telephone set Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 16:42:35 -0400hancock4 writes:
magstripe card originally developed at IBM in 1960 and magstripe
standard ran out of the Los Gatos Lab (bldg "29") from 1966 to 1976
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_stripe_card
Los Gatos lab also did the 3624 ATM machine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_3624
slightly before I got offices and labs there (although there were still stories by people that had worked on ATM machines) ... I was officially part of research and had office in research ... but other locations in the area would allow me to come around in mess in other stuff.
One of the things I had was HSDT effort ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
which included putting in 4.5M TDMA satellite dish in the Los Gatos lab back parking lot.
I was also allowed to play disk engineer in bldgs. 14&15 ... some
past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk
recent post mentioning BAI retail banking (& NACHA)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#21 8080 BASIC
and mention of computer backend of dailup point-of-sale terminals
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#25 8080 BASIC
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:16:22 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
note that the congressional revenue reduction & spending increase changes didn't stop in 2010 ... but continue forward to this day.
lots of discussion on DOD (and other) missing money
http://johnhively.wordpress.com/2013/07/22/the-us-government-the-masters-of-vanishing-money/
the above mentions $2.3T missing in 1999 DOD audit ... that is separate from the $1+T DOD spending increase last decade that can't account what it was used for.
the above also mentions off-balance sheet money ... this old post from
jan99 mentions S&L bailout being carried off-balance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm
past posts in this thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#81 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#91 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#92 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#93 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#0 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#2 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#4 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#10 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#15 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#16 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#17 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#20 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#22 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 14:15:24 -0400Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> writes:
following has picture of one of the people from team b with Saddam
... part of supporting Saddam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq_War
more on US support for Iraq
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran-Iraq_war
team b goes back to the 70s when the head of CIA wasn't going to
endorse analysis for significant increase in MICC spending ... president
then replaced the head of CIA with somebody would go along with the
analysis (that person then later becomes president and is responsible
for the 1st iraq invasion, followed later by his son responsible for the
2nd iraq invasion). misc. past posts mentioning team b
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#team.b
team b wiki reference
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_B
for a little topic drift ... post about something similar happening
(president replacing somebody) resulting in S&L fiasco
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#18 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
this account by sat. photo recon analyst is warning about Iraq
marshaling forces to invade Kuwait ... white house comes back,
descrediting the analyst, saying the Saddam would do no such thing.
"Long Strange Journey: An Intelligence Memoir"
https://www.amazon.com/Long-Strange-Journey-Intelligence-ebook/dp/B004NNV5H2/
it wasn't until he reported that Iraq was marsaling forces for the invasion of Saudi Arabia ... that there was some concern about what Saddam might be doing.
part of the most recent invasion of Iraq including claims that it would
only cost $50B ... some recent claims that it eventually climbs to $5T
(with long term veterans and medical benefits) ... a factor of 100
times increase. there was big uptick earlier in the spring on the 10th
anniv. about the fabrication justifying the invasion. The topic has
recently resurfaced ... the former head of MI6 threatening to not wait
until after he is dead to release his memoirs.
Ex-MI6 boss threatens to expose secrets from Iraq 'dodgy dossier'
http://rt.com/news/mi6-iraq-uk-blair-391/
posts from earlier in the year ... in part because of lots being
written on the 10th anniv. of the invasion:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#28 A Matter of Mindset: Iraq, Sequestration and the U.S. Army
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#86 A Matter of Mindset: Iraq, Sequestration and the U.S. Army
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#38 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#49 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#59 The Madness of King George Revisited
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#89 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#5 Lessons Learned from the Iraq War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#51 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#53 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#56 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#64 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#68 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#78 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#83 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#53 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#92 A Matter of Mindset: Iraq
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#10 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#41 Is newer technology always better? It almost is. Exceptions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#64 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#21 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#78 Has the US Lost Its Grand Strategic Mind?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#86 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 23 Jul 2013 11:27:21 -0700jcewing@ACM.ORG (Joel C. Ewing) writes:
the head of IBM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_V._Gerstner,_Jr.
leaves and becomes chairman of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Group
which then does private equity buyout of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booz_Allen_Hamilton
Spies Like Us
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/
from above:
Private contractors like Booz Allen now reportedly garner 70 percent of
the annual $80 billion intelligence budget and supply more than half of
the available manpower.
... snip ...
How Booz Allen Hamilton Swallowed Washington
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-23/visualizing-how-booz-allen-hamilton-swallowed-washington
with for-profit companies prevasive presence in the intelligence world, there has been instances of leveraging the infrastructures for economic & industrial espionage (aka 70% of gov. intelligence is currently for-profit companies).
gerstner posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
private equity posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software Date: 23 July 2013 Blog: Old Geekre:
a little backlash at large cloud operators' making design&build open
source Facebook's Open Compute network is limited, Cisco says
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2044831/facebooks-open-compute-network-is-limited-cisco-says.html
and with over half of servers going to cloud mega-datacenters ... tailor design
HP, NEC join forces to develop next-generation x86 servers
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2044900/hp-nec-to-develop-nextgeneration-x86-servers.html
and
UniCredit and IBM create cloud-based joint venture
http://www.finextra.com/news/FullStory.aspx?newsitemid=25041
Google Now Serves 25 Percent of North American Internet Traffic
http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/07/google-internet-traffic/
the recent isoc-dc meeting on gigabit networks was at google offices and discussed their gigabit initiative involves local cached servers ... minimizing long-haul traffic
Google quietly hit a major milestone for North American Internet
traffic; Summary: Google broke "an Internet record" and possibly
forgot to tell anyone about it.
http://www.zdnet.com/google-quietly-hit-a-major-milestone-for-north-american-internet-traffic-7000018388/
Amazon Web Services is Replacing Enterprise IT
http://www.wired.com/insights/2013/07/amazon-web-services-is-replacing-enterprise-it/
It's a cloud, cloud, cloud, cloud world; Summary: A recent business
survey by RightScale shows that the cloud has become mainstream and
that open-source cloud technology is leading the way.
http://www.zdnet.com/its-a-cloud-cloud-cloud-cloud-world-7000018431/
recent posts in this discussion:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#14 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#53 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#66 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#23 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#24 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: 8080 BASIC Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:13:16 -0400Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> writes:
an "AUTH" transaction is 60-80 bytes ... at 2400 ... send/receive roundtip plus processing time is under second. negotiation time for 56kbit is significantly longer than total transaction time with 2400.
i got in festuche with card associations in the mid-90s that had a bunch of technitions doing specifications with "AUTH" transactions with digital signatures with every transaction carrying CA (certification authority) digital certificate (somewhat similar to that used in SSL).
The issue was that none of the techies involved had bothered to understand the business process ... typical appended digital certificate ran 4k to 12k bytes ... so the digital certificate specification was adding a factor of 100 times payload bloat.
I was co-author of x9.59 financial transaction standard ... some
past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#x959
that showed it was trivial to provided digital signature authentication
w/o requiring a digital certificate to be appended ... that not only did
a digital certificate represent a factor of 100 times payload bloat
... but it was also redundant and superfluous. some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#bloat
some of the certification forces got involved in X9 financial standards group and got a effort going as x9.63 for digital certificate size compression ... attempting to offset the argument I was using about a factor of 100 times payload bloat (at the time various digital certificate businesses were floating business cases on wallstreet that it was a $20B/annum business cases with financial industry requiring a $100/annum digital certificate for every person in the country ... and I was undermining that activity by showing the digital certificates were redundant and superfluous).
However, I then showed that I could use their techniques ... and rather
than reducing payload bloat to only ten times (rather than 100 times), I
could reduce a digital certificate to zero bytes. So rather than using
the argument that appending digital certificate on every financial
transaction was redundant and superfluous ... I would back an x9.63
digital certificate standard specifying mandated zero byte digital
certificates appended to every financial transaction. a few past
posts mentioning x9.63
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay10.htm#76 Invisible Ink, E-signatures slow to broadly catch on (addenda)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000c.html#62 ANSI X9.62 and X9.63
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#72 Happy DEC-10 Day
Also at the time, the standard public key software library was BSAFE ... I got somebody that I had worked with on&off for a couple decades to do some BSAFE benchmarks on publickey profile operation ... which I then presented to the card association public key working group. The members of the working working (technologists from the card association and various well known technology vendors) claimed that the numbers I presented was 100 times too slow. It turns out that the benchmark numbers for the publickey profile was done with a optimized BSAFE library that ran four times faster than the standard library. If any of the technologists had actually done any publickey operations they should have said my benchmark numbers were four times too fast. Six months later when initial prototype code for the card association specification was running ... my benchmark numbers were within a couple percent of measured (i.e. the BSAFE library speedups had been incorporated into the standard library).
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Douglas Engelbart's Unfinished Revolution Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:51:31 -0400re:
Douglas Engelbart's Unfinished Revolution; Computing pioneer Doug
Engelbart's inventions transformed computing, but he intended
them to transform humans.
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/517341/douglas-engelbarts-unfinished-revolution/
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: The Web's longest nightmare ends: Eolas' patents are dead on appeal Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:52:56 -0400The Web's longest nightmare ends: Eolas' patents are dead on appeal; Web pioneers united to stop "interactive web" patents at an East Texas trial.
from above:
Berners-Lee was one of several web pioneers who came through the court
during the course of a four-day trial, which ultimately convinced a jury
to invalidate two patents owned by Eolas, the tiny patent-holding
company that Doyle and his lawyers transformed into one of the most
fearsome "patent trolls" of all time.
... snip ...
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:30:51 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: 8080 BASIC Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 20:29:00 -0400ClF3 writes:
as an aside ... in '95/'96 period the BSAFE library defaulted to doing bignum calculations using 16bit ops ... the q&d optimization that got 4-times speed-up was changing to 32bit ops ... and than benchmarked on dozen or so different platforms.
CallPath
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/3/897/ENUS298-183/index.html&lang=en_US&request_locale=en
is then sold off in 2001
http://connectedplanetonline.com/news/telecom_alcatel_genesys_purchase/
I'm not familiar with "CallPath" ... some conjecture it might somehow
be related to IBM's acquisition of ROLM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROLM
although IBM fairly quickly sold ROLM off to Siemens
this mentions CallPath Host was designed to provide inbound call
management exclusively for the ROLM 9751 CBX environment
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=dd&subtype=sm&appname=ShopzSeries&htmlfid=897/ENUS5695-083
the folklore is that the IBM business person responsible for deciding on ROLM purchase had reviewed previous financials ... but hadn't noticed that ROLM had gone into the red in the most recent quarter (or the decision should have been significantly different).
As part of HSDT effort,
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
one of the HSDT funding conditions was I would include testing of Series/1 with ZIRPEL T1 cards (2701 from the 60s was the only official T1 product, 20yrs on, they were getting hard to find/maintain, Federal Systems division had developed S/1 ZIRPEL T1 cards for the federal market). The problem was that with the ROLM purchase ... ROLM then ordered two years of Series/1 production ... which made it impossible for internal locations to get S/1. I had previously worked with the person running dataprocessing at ROLM ... and I was able to do some horse-trading for S/1 boxes.
The card association work was for internet specific specification SET
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Electronic_Transaction
from above:
SET was developed by SETco, led by VISA and MasterCard (and involving
other companies such as GTE, IBM, Microsoft, Netscape, RSA, Safelayer
-- formerly SET Projects -- and VeriSign. VeriFone - who built one of
the earliest Internet Payment gateways used by several leading banks
was also closely involved.) starting in 1996. SET was based on X.509
certificates with several extensions. The first version was finalised
in May 1997 and a pilot test was announced in July 1998.
... snip ..
Various vendors were doing SET implementations that they figured they could sell to businesses. they were also doing SET payment "gateways" that sat on the internet ... and converted from internet SET format to ISO8583 ... doing all the digital certificate and public key operations in the gateway ... which then was reduced to one-bit summary in ISO8583 message (as a work-around to the SET internet transaction payload bloat being at least 100 times larger than the ISO8583 transactions).
I pointed out there was no end-to-end security ... that the payment gateways could lie (the enormous payload bloat prevented end-to-end operation). Various vendors (including IBM) claimed that they had done very high security on their implementation and it was certified not to lie. The problem was that anybody could generate ISO8583 message with the bit turned on. The SET infrastructure was setup that ISO8583 transactions with the SET bit on, had significantly lower interchange fee than transactions w/o SET bit ... so there was significant financial motivation to lie. A little later, some association business people presented some statics at a ISO TC68 meeting on significant number of ISO8583 transactions coming through with the SET bit turned on ... and they were positive no SET was involved (i.e. processors lieing). The methodology would have required that every piece of software in the world generating an ISO8583 message would have to be certified never to specify the SET bit when it wasn't suppose to (as opposed to only the SET gateway software being certified).
ISO 8583
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8583
TC68
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_technical_committee?commid=49650
I had been involved in the electronic commerce at NETSCAPE ... and
somewhat as a result in the mid-90s was asked to participate in the
X9A10 working group that had been given the requirement to preserve
the integrity of the financial infrastructure for *ALL* retail
payments (aka not just internet). The result was x9.59 standard
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#x959
... which took into account requirement for end-to-end security and
avoiding the enormous payload bloat typical of most digital certificate
based designs.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#bloat
some SET past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#disputes Half of Visa's disputes, fraud result from I-commerce (more)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#sslset1 "SSL & SET Query" ... from usenet group
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#sslset2 "SSL & SET Query" ... from usenet group
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay4.htm#visaset Visa Delicately Gives Hook to SET Standard
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay4.htm#visaset2 Visa Delicately Gives Hook to SET Standard
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay4.htm#3dssl VISA 3D-SSL
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay6.htm#gaopki4 GAO: Government faces obstacles in PKI security adoption
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay6.htm#ecomich call for new measures: ICH would be glad to help
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay7.htm#nonrep0 non-repudiation, was Re: crypto flaw in secure mail standards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay7.htm#nonrep2 non-repudiation, was Re: crypto flaw in secure mail standards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay7.htm#nonrep3 non-repudiation, was Re: crypto flaw in secure mail standards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay7.htm#nonrep4 non-repudiation, was Re: crypto flaw in secure mail standards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay7.htm#nonrep5 non-repudiation, was Re: crypto flaw in secure mail standards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/ansiepay.htm#x959ansr Comments from 2nd LB on DSTU X9.59
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/ansiepay.htm#theory Security breach raises questions about Internet shopping
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay7.htm#nonrep5 non-repudiation, was Re: crypto flaw in secure mail standards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay7.htm#nonrep6 non-repudiation, was Re: crypto flaw in secure mail standards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm3.htm#kiss6 KISS for PKIX. (Was: RE: ASN.1 vs XML (used to be RE: I-D ACTION :draft-ietf-pkix-scvp-00.txt))
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm6.htm#terror7 [FYI] Did Encryption Empower These Terrorists?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm6.htm#terror10 [FYI] Did Encryption Empower These Terrorists?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm6.htm#terror11 [FYI] Did Encryption Empower These Terrorists?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm7.htm#3dsecure 3D Secure Vulnerabilities?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm7.htm#rhose7 when a fraud is a sale, Re: Rubber hose attack
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm7.htm#rhose8 when a fraud is a sale, Re: Rubber hose attack
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm11.htm#21 IBM alternative to PKI?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm11.htm#28 Proposal: A replacement for 3D Secure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm11.htm#31 Proposal: A replacement for 3D Secure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm12.htm#32 Employee Certificates - Security Issues
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm14.htm#4 Who's afraid of Mallory Wolf?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm15.htm#0 invoicing with PKI
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm15.htm#2 Is cryptography where security took the wrong branch?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm15.htm#5 Is cryptography where security took the wrong branch?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm15.htm#8 Is cryptography where security took the wrong branch?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm17.htm#53 Using crypto against Phishing, Spoofing and Spamming
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm17.htm#54 Using crypto against Phishing, Spoofing and Spamming
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm17.htm#55 Using crypto against Phishing, Spoofing and Spamming
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm18.htm#1 dual-use digital signature vulnerability
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm18.htm#5 Using crypto against Phishing, Spoofing and Spamming
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm18.htm#6 dual-use digital signature vulnerability
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm18.htm#7 Using crypto against Phishing, Spoofing and Spamming
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm20.htm#9 the limits of crypto and authentication
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm20.htm#10 the limits of crypto and authentication
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm20.htm#11 the limits of crypto and authentication
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm20.htm#12 the limits of crypto and authentication
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm20.htm#15 the limits of crypto and authentication
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm20.htm#17 the limits of crypto and authentication
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm26.htm#18 SSL (https, really) accelerators for Linux/Apache?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#40 general questions on SSL certificates
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#22 Why trust root CAs ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#23 Why trust root CAs ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#72 SET; was Re: Why trust root CAs ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000g.html#33 does CA need the proof of acceptance of key binding ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000g.html#48 Use of SET?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000g.html#49 Use of SET?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#15 IBM Model Numbers (was: First video terminal?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#37 Credit Card # encryption
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#38 Credit Card # encryption
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#39 Credit Card # encryption
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#40 Credit Card # encryption
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#42 Credit Card # encryption
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#43 Credit Card # encryption
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001i.html#53 Credit Card # encryption
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#16 Minimalist design (was Re: Parity - why even or odd)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#36 Newbie TOPS-10 7.03 question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#83 CM-5 Thinking Machines, Supercomputers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#53 Computer Naming Conventions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#51 Hardest Mistake in Comp Arch to Fix
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#69 Digital signature
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002n.html#74 Everything you wanted to know about z900 from IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#72 Early attempts at console humor?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#53 Reviving Multics
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003l.html#65 Strength of RSA with known plain-text
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#52 Call-gate-like mechanism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#56 Oldest running code
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#37 command line switches [Re: [REALLY OT!] Overuse of symbolic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#42 Infiniband - practicalities for small clusters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004i.html#13 New Method for Authenticated Public Key Exchange without Digital Certificates
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004k.html#31 capacity planning: art, science or magic?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#19 computer industry scenairo before the invention of the PC?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005.html#39 CAS and LL/SC (was Re: High Level Assembler for MVS & VM & VSE)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005c.html#42 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#3 IBM 360 channel assignments
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005l.html#32 More Phishing scams, still no SSL being used
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005l.html#34 More Phishing scams, still no SSL being used
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005l.html#35 More Phishing scams, still no SSL being used
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#8 Why these original FORTRAN quirks?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#64 An interesting take on Verified by Visa Policy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#7 An interesting take on Verified by Visa Policy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#25 Old datasearches
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#47 Industry groups leap to Chip and PIN's defence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#82 Five Theses on Security Protocols
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#83 Five Theses on Security Protocols
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: 1969 networked word processor "Astrotype" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 10:12:10 -0400Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
part of migration of cp67 to 7x24 online availability was cutting costs
of keeping system up and running offshift when (at least in the
beginning) there was little or no load. one was letting the cpu meter
come to stop (machines were rented/leased with charges based on cpu
meter which ran whenever processor and/or channels were
running). PREPARE CCW was used for terminal I/O that would allow
channels to stop on terminal channel program when waiting for incoming
characters. there was also work on running dark room & w/o operator
off-shift ... and system automatigically rebooting and becoming
operational w/o human intervention. past posts mentioning evoluation
to 7x24 online availability
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#timeshare
however, as more & more function was provided in virtual machines ... aka service virtual machines (modern lingo virtual appliance) ... it was still manual intervention to get the service virtual machines up and operational (although it didn't require people onsite).
i was starting to do automated benchmarking ... and developed the
"autolog" command that could be executing to automatically bring up a
service virtual machine at initial boot ... and that service virtual
machine could be used to bring up other service virtual machines
automatically. some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#benchmark
the autolog command quickly came to be used for normal production
operation ... not just my benchmarking ... old posts&email about
migrating from cp67 to vm370 ... and then some of the features where
picked up for vm370 release 3 (including autolog command)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email731212
in
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#36
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750102
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430
in
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#7
one of my hobbies was producing production operating system for internal
datacenters ... reference to "csc/vm" in above ... and continued to work
on cp67 & vm370 during the future system period (lots of people had been
redirected to work on FS ... and 370 stuff was being shutdown). When FS
implodes, there was mad rush to get stuff back into 370 product
pipelines ... which contributed to picking up stuff for vm370 release
3. misc. past posts mentioning Future System
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
one of the things mentioned included csc/vm old email was "SPM" (aka special message) from POK ... which had originally been developed for CP67 by the Pisa Scientific Center. "SPM" allowed all messages that would normally appear on the terminal to be intercepted by software. It provided for a way for interacting with software running in service virtual machine. Various execs and programs were developed to encapsulate messages for interacting with services virtual machines ... one such was TELL.
There was some NIH getting SPM to ship in standard product ... eventually IUCV & SMSG were developed and released in product ... which in combination provided a subset of SPM functionality
Note the original RSCS/VNET (one of the things running in service virtual machine) shipped to customers included SPM support ... even though the underlying SPM function never shipped.
The author of REX(X) wrote a multi-user spacewar game that had clients running in virtual machines and displaying on 3270 terminals and communicated to the spacewar server via SPM. Since RSCS/VNET supported forwarding SPM messages through the network ... it was then possible to have spacewar clients running on different machines from the spacewar server. trivia drift ... very early several people wrote spacewar client bots that played automatically and started beating humans ... mostly by being able to make moves faster. spacewar server was then modified to have energy use to increase non-linear has interval between client moves decreased below a minimum human expected interval ... to somewhat level the playing field between bot and human players.
note that later "automated" operators used PCs with terminal emulation
and screen scrappers (HLLAPI) to capture messages. for other drift,
there was internal CMS-based screen scrapper done in the 70s that used
virtual devices (original developed for PVM) ... PARASITE & STORY.
old description
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#35
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#36
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#14
misc. past posts mentioning SPM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#32 z900 and Virtual Machine Theory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#51 other cp/cms history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#47 To RISC or not to RISC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#8 Why these original FORTRAN quirks?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#16 intersection between autolog command and cmsback (more history)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#11 vm/sp1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#14 Just another example of mainframe costs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#14 more shared segment archeology
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#25 IBM 360 Model 20 Questions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#22 Was CMS multi-tasking?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#41 Was CMS multi-tasking?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#73 Addressing Scheme with 64 vs 63 bits
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#48 New machine code
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#67 Status of Arpanet/Internet in 1976?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#0 What is the protocal for GMT offset in SMTP (e-mail) header time-stamp?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#33 Was VM ever used as an exokernel?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#28 CSC History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#89 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#49 My first mainframe experience
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#56 VAXen on the Internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#66 Wasn't instant messaging on IBM's VM/CMS in the early 1980s
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#24 Inventor of e-mail honored by Smithsonian
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#38 Invention of Email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#64 Typeface (font) and city identity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#7 Operating System, what is it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#36 PDP-10 system calls, was 1132 printer history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#77 Spacewar! on S/360
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#27 RBS Mainframe Meltdown: A year on, the fallout is still coming
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: 8080 BASIC Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 10:51:23 -0400Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> writes:
i haven't seen recent numbers ... but decade ago ... there was a large hosting company ... that said they were running ten adult entertainment websites that all had more traffic than the publicly listed website ranked #1 in traffic (adult etertainment industry wasn't playing in the internet traffic competition games).
they also mentioned that they ran large number of sites selling software ... that credit card fraud for the software sites would peak around 50% ... while the credit card fraud for the adult entertainment sites was lowest of any ecommerce ... staying under 4% (joke that adult entertainment customers had the highest integrity and the most honest of any on the internet ... and software customers were the most dishonest).
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: Internet Mainframe Forums Considered Harmful Date: 25 July 2013 Blog: Enterprise Systemsre:
In the early 80s, there was article (washington post?) calling for 100% unearned profit tax on american auto industry. The issue was that the import quotas were to reduce competition allowing significant increased profits for the us auto industry, they were to take those profits and completely remake themselves. Instead they pocketed the unearned profits and continued business as usual.
In 1990, the industry had the C4 taskforce to look at completely remaking themselves. Since they were planning on making extensive use of technology, representatives of various technology vendors were invited to participate. During the meetings the industry could describe in detail the foreign competition and what the US industry needed to do. However as has been seen ... they weren't able to significant change ... roll forward to the current day ... and it still isn't clear than they have made the necessary changes.
One of the things C4 discussed in detail was after the import quotas, the foreign makers realized that they could sell that many high-end cars and so changed their product from low-end cars to high-end cars. That change also further reduced downward price pressure on US makers ... further increasing their profits. However, at the time, the standard auto industry was 7-8 yrs product elapsed time from idea to rolling off the line. They had numerous examples of the problems introduced by such a long produce cycle. The foreign competition as part of changing their products, redid the development process cutting elapsed time in half. At the time of the C4 taskforce, the foreign competition was in the process of cutting it in half again. There was numerous examples of the competitive edge that having an 18m product development cycle had over a 7-8yr development cycle (US auto industry tried to compensate for the 7-8yr cycle by running two in parallel offset by 3-4yrs ... providing the appearance of having something new every 3-4yrs).
In any case, in offline discussion with my POK mainframe brethren at the C4 meetings, I asked them what it was they figured to contribute since they had similar problem to the US auto industry with 7-8yr product development cycle.
recent posts mentioning C4 taskforce
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#1 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#79 As an IBM'er just like the Marines only a few good men and women make the cut,
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#63 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#94 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#1 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:33:00 -0400Charlton Wilbur <cwilbur@chromatico.net> writes:
Jobs used MACH for NeXT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXT
NeXT/MACH was then used for new MAC OS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs
recent posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#74 mainframe "selling" points
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#76 DataPower XML Appliance and RACF
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#68 Boyd's cycle: the path to guaranteed success + 6 big companies as evidence
in the Unix-wars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_wars
pieces of LOCUS & MACH were used by OSF
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Software_Foundation
for OSF/1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSF/1
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: 1969 networked word processor "Astrotype" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 12:08:39 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
SPM was superset of VMCF, IUCV and SMSG combined.
SMSG was an alternative to the MSG command ... that the sender used for messages that were to be processed by recipient's software.
SPM had bunch of options as to what output that would nominal appear on user's terminal ... should be made available for software processing (in the SMSG case, it was the sender that decided whether messages were to be available for software processing by using "SMSG" instead of "MSG" ... in the SPM case, all decisions on what was to be handled by software was under the recipient's control).
SMSG description discussed 1-22 in IBM VM/370 Release 6 Guide
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/370/VM_370/Release_6/GC20-1834-0_VM370_Release_6_guide_Aug79.pdf
this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#16 intersection between autolog command and cmsback (more history)
has some of the SPM documentation ... describing SPMS, a CMS/SPM interface program
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: 8080 BASIC Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:55:19 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
other trivia ... at the time ROLM was using 56kbit direct wire to transfer a test system from development machine to a test PBX ... which was taking 24hrs elapsed time ... I was asked to come in and see if I could help them with T1 support ... reducing elapsed time to load a test system to under an hour.
note later, siemens spun/IPO'ed its chip operation as Infineon (which
included its security chip operation). when we were doing our AADS
chip ... earlier reference in this thread
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#21 8080 BASIC
we worked with Infineon on fab'ing the chip ... and had meetings with them at the old ROLM campus (before the new Infineon bldgs. built in San Jose). Also had meetings with them in Munich and did a security audit/walk-through of their security chip fab that had been built in Dresden.
I've recently mentioned that 20yrs ago, open security literature had
multi-person as norm for various gov. sensitive operations,
including administrative operations ... but that appears to have
all gone by the wayside with privitization of gov. intelligence
operations by for-profit companies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#41 Is newer technology always better? It almost is. Exceptions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#65 The Real Snowden Question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#76 The failure of cyber defence - the mindset is against it
after the most recent incident at gov. intelligence ... there has been some announcements that gov. intelligence would be re-instituting multiple person for sensitive intelligence operations.
Snowden prompts NSA security overhaul
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/19/snowden_prompts_nsa_security_overhaul_partner/
from above
The agency responds to the former contractor's leaks by implementing a
new "two-man rule" on classified information
... snip ...
In any case, the Dresden security chip facility already had two-person
rules in order to get US federal gov. security certification when it
first opened.
http://www.infineon.com/cms/en/corporate/company/location/europe/germany/dresden.html
AADS chip references
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#aads
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes an Architecture Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 09:38:51 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
restored video ... Boyd mentioning Toyota Production System
https://rapidresearch.me/boyd-qa-session/
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: U.S. agents 'got lucky' pursuing accused Russia master hackers Date: 26 July 2013 Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Securityalso google+
U.S. agents 'got lucky' pursuing accused Russia master hackers
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/26/us-usa-hackers-creditcards-arrests-idUSBRE96P02Z20130726
past posts mentioning transaction information harvesting
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#harvest
We were tangentially involved in cal. data breach notification legislation, we had been called in to help wordsmith the cal state digital signature legislation and many of the participants were heavily involved in privacy issues. They had done extensive public surveys and the #1 issue was "identity fraud" ... aka "account fraud" ... fraudulent financial transactions mostly coming as result of breaches. There was little or nothing being done about the problems and it was hoped that publicity from the notifications might prompt corrective actions. The underlying issue is normally security measures are taken as the result of risks&threats ... however those having the breaches weren't the ones at risk (it was the account holders) ... and therefor they had little motivation to take countermeasures
In 1980, IBM filed a intellectual property theft suit for couple billion dollars. The federal judge ruled that in order to prevail, IBM had to demonstrate security measures in proportional to the claimed valued; people can't be blamed for walking off with extremely valuable stuff that doesn't have adequate security (aka security proportional to risk) ... somewhat the swimming pool & minors analogy ... minors can't be blamed for using swimming pool that doesn't have adequate fencing
In the current electronic payment paradigm, the value of the transaction information to the merchant is profit on the transaction (potentially a couple dollars) and the value to the processor is a couple cents. The value of the transaction information to the crooks is the account balance &/or credit limit. As a result, the crooks may be able to outspend by a factor of 100 times attacking the system, as the merchant/processors can afford to spend defending.
Another issue is dual use ... the transaction information is needed in dozens of business processes at millions of locations around the globe ... but at the same time the transaction information can be used by crooks to perform fraudulent transactions ... and as a result, the transaction information has to be kept completely confidential and never divulged (nearly impossible to prevent leakage of transaction information that has to be both readily available for business processes ... but at the same time must be kept totally confidential and never divulged).
we had been called in as consultants to a small client/server startup
that wanted to do payment transactions on their servers; they had also
invented this technology called "SSL" they wanted to use; the result
is now frequently called "electronic commerce". In the mid-90s,
somewhat as a result of being involved in electronic commerce, we were
invited to participate in x9a10 financial standard working group which
had been given the requirement to preserve the integrity of the
financial infrastructure for *ALL* retail payments. The result was
x9.59 financial transaction standard ... which did nothing to prevent
breaches. However, x9.59 did slightly tweak the current payment
paradigm and made the information from previous financial transactions
useless to crooks for performing fraudulent transaction (didn't do
anything to prevent breaches, but eliminated the risks from
breaches). x9.59 references
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#x959
besides the security proportional to risk and dual-use
... this is old series in financial cryptography blog about the
current payment paradigm as "naked payments" metaphor ... or how to
shove people out the airlock in open space w/o a space suit
http://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/000745.html
http://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/000744.html
http://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/000747.html
http://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/000749.html
other posts mentioning the theme:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#payments
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Feds indict indentity theft ring Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 23:32:48 -0400hancock4 writes:
past posts mentioning transaction detail & account number harvesting
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#harvest
We were tangentially involved in cal. data breach notification legislation, we had been called in to help wordsmith the cal state digital signature legislation and many of the participants were heavily involved in privacy issues. They had done extensive public surveys and the #1 issue was "identity fraud" ... aka "account fraud" ... fraudulent financial transactions mostly coming as result of breaches. There was little or nothing being done about the problems and it was hoped that publicity from the notifications might prompt corrective actions. The underlying issue is normally security measures are taken as the result of risks&threats ... however those having the breaches weren't the ones at risk (it was the account holders) ... and therefor they had little motivation to take countermeasures
In 1980, IBM filed a intellectual property theft suit for couple
billion dollars. The federal judge ruled that in order to prevail, IBM
had to demonstrate security measures proportional to the claimed
value, that people can't be blamed for walking off with extremely
valuable stuff that doesn't have adequate security (aka security
proportional to risk) ... somewhat the swimming pool & minors
analogy ... minors can't be blamed for using swimming pool that
doesn't have adequate fencing. misc. past posts to security
proportional to risk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#security.proportional.to.risk
In the current electronic payment paradigm, the value of the transaction information to the merchant is profit on the transaction (potentially a couple dollars) and the value to the processor is a couple cents. The value of the transaction information to the crooks is the account balance &/or credit limit. As a result, the crooks may be able to outspend by a factor of 100 times attacking the system, as the merchant/processors can afford to spend defending.
Another issue is "dual use" ... the transaction information is needed in dozens of business processes at millions of locations around the globe ... but at the same time the transaction information can be used by crooks to perform fraudulent transactions ... and as a result, the transaction information has to be kept completely confidential and never divulged (nearly impossible to prevent leakage of transaction information that has to be both readily available for business processes ... but at the same time must be kept totally confidential and never divulged).
we had been called in as consultants to a small client/server startup
that wanted to do payment transactions on their servers; they had also
invented this technology called "SSL" they wanted to use; the result
is now frequently called "electronic commerce". In the mid-90s,
somewhat as a result of being involved in electronic commerce, we were
invited to participate in x9a10 financial standard working group which
had been given the requirement to preserve the integrity of the
financial infrastructure for *ALL* retail payments. The result was
x9.59 financial transaction standard ... which did nothing to prevent
breaches. However, x9.59 did slightly tweak the current payment
paradigm and made the information from previous financial transactions
useless to crooks for performing fraudulent transaction (didn't do
anything to prevent breaches, but eliminated the risks from
breaches). x9.59 references
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#x959
besides the security proportional to risk and dual-use ... this is old
series in financial cryptography blog about the current payment paradigm
as "naked payments" metaphor ... or how to shove people out the airlock
in open space w/o a space suit
http://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/000745.html .
http://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/000744.html .
http://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/000747.html .
http://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/000749.html .
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#payments
USDOJ: Five Indicted in New Jersey for Largest Known Data
Breach Conspiracy
http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2013/July/13-crm-842.html
other news
US charges five with $300m credit card fraud
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2013/07/201372621412209277.html
US arrests master cyber criminals who ran $300m corporate network
hacking scheme
http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2285141/us-arrests-master-cyber-criminals-who-ran-usd300m-corporate-network-hacking-scheme
Russian hacking ring indicted over $300m credit and debit card fraud
http://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/news/2285101/russian-hacking-ring-indicted-over-usd300m-credit-and-debit-card-fraud
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Feds indict indentity theft ring Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:07:30 -0400re:
related recent posts related to existing payment paradigm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#5 Botnets Unearthed -- The ZEUS BOT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#21 8080 Basic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#33 8080 Basic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#37 8080 Basic
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes an Architecture Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:39:10 -0400re:
recent reference to former head of CIA now at private-equity KKR
David Petraeus' Biased Keystone XL Endorsement
http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/07/26/david-petraeus-biased-keystone-xl-endorsement/
also mentions he is now at KKR
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus
KKR reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohlberg_Kravis_Roberts
recent posts referencing connections between Gerstner, AMEX, KKR, RJR,
IBM, Carlyle, BAH, and for-profit companies taking over
gov. intelligence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#26 Louis V. Gerstner Jr. lays out his post-IBM life
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#41 Is newer technology always better? It almost is. Exceptions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#54 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#61 Big Data Is Opening Doors, but Maybe Too Many
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#65 The Real Snowden Question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#76 The failure of cyber defence - the mindset is against it
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#31 IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud
other recent posts mentioning recent head of CIA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#45 A Matter of Mindset: Iraq, Sequestration and the U.S. Army
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#87 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#5 Lessons Learned from the Iraq War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#63 What Makes collecting sales taxes Bizarre?
past posts mentioning Gerstner
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
past posts referencing Team B
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#team.b
past posts referencing spreading Success of Failure culture
(in the gov).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failuree
past posts mentioning Military-Industrial(-Congressional) complex
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:22:02 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
... and
Boyd's congressional testimony after desert storm
http://pogoblog.typepad.com/pogo/2011/03/air-force-colonel-john-boyds-1991-house-armed-services-committee-testimony.html
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: The Unleashed Mind: Why Creative People Are Eccentric Date: 27 July 2013 Blog: FacebookThe Unleashed Mind: Why Creative People Are Eccentric
from the other direction ... if you care about acting like everybody else ... you are going to be less likely to do something different or new
and all the articles about teachers attempting to beat creativity out of kids at an early age (and beat in conformity)
past posts mentioining conformity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#67 Offshore IT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#65 Teachers Don't Like Creative Students
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#3 Time to Think ... and to Listen
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#19 SnOODAn: Boyd, Snowden, and Resilience
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#63 What Makes collecting sales taxes Bizarre?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes an Architecture Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:11:23 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
Edward Snowden's not the story. The fate of the internet is
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/jul/28/edward-snowden-death-of-internet
from above:
Similarly, without Snowden, we would not be debating whether the US
government should have turned surveillance into a huge, privatised
business, offering data-mining contracts to private contractors such as
Booz Allen Hamilton and, in the process, high-level security clearance
to thousands of people who shouldn't have it.
... snip ...
also widens the door for for-profit companies doing industrial&economic espionage
past posts mentioning Gerstner
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
past posts mentioning Success of Failure culture spreading in the gov
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failuree
related issue
US cloud companies see immediately decline in business thanks to NSA
Prism
http://slashdot.org/submission/2832383/us-cloud-companies-see-immediately-decline-in-business-thanks-to-nsa-prism
and MICC involvement
Lawmakers Who Upheld NSA Phone Spying Received Double the Defense
Industry Cash
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/07/money-nsa-vote/
Nancy Pelosi Driving Force Behind Saving the NSA Spying Program
http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/07/26/nancy-pelosi-driving-force-behind-saving-the-nsa-spy-program/
Hey San Francisco, Your Rep. Pelosi Saved The NSA Phone Metadata
Program
http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/26/hey-san-francisco-your-rep-pelosi-saved-the-nsa-phone-metadata-program/
past posts mentioning MICC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
recent posts mentioning intersection between Gerstner, privatizing
of the gov.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#20 Louis V. Gerstner Jr. lays out his post-IBM life
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#26 Louis V. Gerstner Jr. lays out his post-IBM life
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#41 Is newer technology always better? It almost is. Exceptions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#54 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#61 Big Data Is Opening Doors, but Maybe Too Many
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#65 The Real Snowden Question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#76 The failure of cyber defence - the mindset is against it
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#31 IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#48 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: U.S. agents 'got lucky' pursuing accused Russia master hackers Date: 28 July 2013 Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security160 million credit cards later, 'cutting edge' hacking ring cracked
Note under reg-E ... in dispute, burden of proof is not on the individual ... but on the institutions. In the case of both chip&pin and the old internet SET protocol ... the burden of proof shifts to the individual in dispute ... this was done in part to offset the costs of associated infrastructure upgrades (and motivate merchants to spend the money).
I was once contacted by legal representative on behalf of individual who was disputing an ATM transaction ... the financial institution was saying that it couldn't find the surveillance video ... under chip&pin with burden of proof on the individual, it was the responsibility for the individual to produce the surveillance video showing that they didn't perform the transaction.
I go into much longer description in the related "U.S. agents 'got
lucky' pursuing accused Russia master hackers" discussion, also
archived here
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#45 U.S. agents 'got lucky' pursuing accused Russia master hackers
One of the issues was around the start of the century, US financial institutions were coming to the realization that 40-60% of their bottom line was from payment transactions fees ... mostly coming from merchant interchange fees. Merchants had been indoctrinated for decades that these fees were heavily proportional to the associated fraud for the transaction type. New technology that reduced fraud by factor of ten times, could reduce the associated interchange fees by similar amount resulting in a 1/3rd hit to the bottom line.
An example was there were a number of "safe" internet debit products around the start of the century being pitched to merchants that had extremely high acceptance rate (accounted for something like 70% of transactions). The merchants were expecting a significant reduction in related interchange fees (having been indoctrinated for decades that interchange fees were heavily proportional to fraud). Then came the cognitive dissonance when merchants were told that rather than significant reduction in interchange fees, there would effectively be a surcharge on top of the highest rate they were already paying (for the "safe" internet debit products) ... and all the efforts collapsed.
Note that the difference is that the merchants view it as a cost item that they pass on to their customers. Financial institutions view fraud as an enormous profit. Cutting interchange fees by factor of ten ... means that merchants' costs are reduced ... while for financial institutions it could mean a 1/3rd hit to their bottom line.
misc. past posts mentioning the cognitive dissonance:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#15 Public Computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#75 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#79 PIN entry on digital signatures + extra token
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#4 GPG
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#5 GPG
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#29 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#32 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#51 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#60 Cobol hits 50 and keeps counting
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#62 Solving password problems one at a time, Re: The password-reset paradox
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#64 What happened to X9.59?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#51 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#49 Hacker charges also an indictment on PCI, expert says
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#62 August 7, 1944: today is the 65th Anniversary of the Birth of the Computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#1 IT Story New Standard For EU-Compliant Electronic Signatures
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#17 Chip and PIN is Broken!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#21 Should the USA Implement EMV?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#54 Trust Facade
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#69 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#10 Wal-Mart to support smartcard payments
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#26 Root Zone DNSSEC Deployment Technical Status Update
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#39 Compressing the OODA-Loop - Removing the D (and maybe even an O)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#52 Payment Card Industry Pursues Profits Over Security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#42 Looking for a real Fortran-66 compatible PC compiler (CP/M or DOSor Windows
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#23 Fight Fraud with Device ID
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#48 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#58 Pipeline and Network Security: Protecting a Series of Tubes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#56 Does outsourcing cause data loss?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#38 ISBNs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#39 ISBNs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#15 Wicked Problems
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#71 Password shortcomings
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#32 Zeus/SpyEye 'Automatic Transfer' Module Masks Online Banking Theft
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#32 Use another browser - Kaspersky follows suit
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#10 Does the IBM System z Mainframe rely on Security by Obscurity or is it Secure by Design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#54 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#58 Dualcase vs monocase. Was: Article for the boss
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#8 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#47 Pirate Bay co-founder charged with hacking IBM mainframes, stealing money
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: copyright protection/Doug Englebart Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:47:28 -0400Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> writes:
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: copyright protection/Doug Englebart Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:58:50 -0400Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> writes:
Spies Like Us
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/
from above:
Private contractors like Booz Allen now reportedly garner 70 percent of
the annual $80 billion intelligence budget and supply more than half of
the available manpower.
... snip ...
I've commented that open security publications had gov processes 20yrs ago that would have made the whole Snowden scenario unlikely ... but all those processes seemed to have gone by the wayside with the privatizing of the gov (the for-profit companies having little incentive for the security procedures to protect information from insiders) ... in fact there are articles in the last couple weeks about *improving* security procedures ... as if they are something brand new.
there is also the issue of for-profit companies leveraging their
position for industrial&economic espionage for their own advantage
... example
http://washingtontechnology.com/articles/2012/02/08/booz-allen-air-force-debarment.aspx
http://www.federalnewsradio.com/130/2738345/Air-Force-suspends-Booz-Allens-San-Antonio-office
recent references
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#32 IBM Mainframe (1980's) on You tube
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#26 Louis V. Gerstner Jr. lays out his post-IBM life
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#41 Is newer technology always better? It almost is. Exceptions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#54 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#61 Big Data Is Opening Doors, but Maybe Too Many
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#65 The Real Snowden Question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#76 The failure of cyber defence - the mindset is against it
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#79 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#31 IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#43 8080 BASIC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#51 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: copyright protection/Doug Englebart Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:09:18 -0400Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> writes:
a couple old posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#48 Mozilla v Firefox
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#21 Taxes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006l.html#63 DEC's Hudson fab
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#45 IBM Unionization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#51 IBM Unionization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#25 We are on the brink of historic decision [referring to defence cuts]
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Feds indict indentity theft ring Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:40:00 -0400re:
similar post in (closed linkedin) Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#45 U.S. agents 'got lucky' pursuing accused Russia master hackers
other background discussion in this recent followup post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#52 U.S. agents 'got lucky' pursuing accused Russia master hackers
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: The Internet: Missing the Light Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:02:58 -0400The Internet: Missing the Light
trivia ... Bob was responsible for visicalc implementation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VisiCalc
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Frankston
before VisiCalc he was at IDC ... one of the large virtual machine based
online service bureaus in the Boston area. they had made me an offer
when I graduated ... but I decided to go to science center instead ...
misc. past posts mentioning science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
they did periodically raid people from the science center
I've mentioned before they quickly moved up the value stream
... offering lots of online financial information as well as buying the
pricing services division from one of the rating agencies in the early
70s. misc. recent posts mentioning their purchase of pricing services
division
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#21 Banks to embrace virtualisation in 2009: survey
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#31 Banks to embrace virtualisation in 2009: survey
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#32 What are the challenges in risk analytics post financial crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#42 Lets play Blame Game...?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#52 The Credit Crunch: Why it happened?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#77 CROOKS and NANNIES: what would Boyd do?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#79 The Credit Crunch: Why it happened?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#38 A great article was posted in another BI group: "To H*** with Business Intelligence: 40 Percent of Execs Trust Gut"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#49 US disaster, debts and bad financial management
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#53 Credit & Risk Management ... go Simple ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#78 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#1 Audit II: Two more scary words: Sarbanes-Oxley
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#15 The background reasons of Credit Crunch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#53 Are the "brightest minds in finance" finally onto something?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#70 When did "client server" become part of the language?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#41 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#49 Is the current downturn cyclic or systemic?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#40 Analysing risk, especially credit risk in Banks, which was a major reason for the current crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#20 UK issues Turning apology (and about time, too)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#68 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#47 Is C close to the machine?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#48 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#4 alphas was: search engine history, was Happy DEC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#52 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#49 "Fraud & Stupidity Look a Lot Alike"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#25 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#45 S&P's History of Relentless Political Advocacy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#50 How Many Divisions Does Standard and Poors Have?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#46 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#35 Adair Turner: A New Debt-Free Money Advocate
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#66 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#67 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:58:07 -0400note that one of the co-founders of SUN played major role in BSD UNIX at Berkeley
other trivia ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Microsystems
the original workstation designed for the Stanford University Network (SUN) ... and they approached the IBM Palo Alto Science Center about producing it. PASC invited a number of other IBM operations to the presenation ... including the SJR 925 group, YKT workstation group, and Boca acorn group (would become the ibm/pc). At least all three of those groups recommended that IBM not produce the workstation ... because they were doing something better.
they then went out and got funding to do startup ... i heard a story about somebody from the gov. taking delivery of the first 200 machines.
a couple old references:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/96.html#4a John Hartmann's Birthday Party
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#30 Stanford University Network (SUN) 3M workstation
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Mainframe vs Server - The Debate Continues Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 29 Jul 2013 10:10:29 -0700Kerneels@ABSOFTWARECONSULTANTS.COM (AbsKerneels) writes:
tpc-c transactions include acid properaties ... aka both tpc and
acid largely attributed to Jim Gray after he left ibm research
https://www.tpc.org/information/who/gray5.asp
I've mentioned before when Jim was leaving SJR ... he pawned off a bunch of stuff on me ... consulting with the IMS DBMS group, interface to early relational customers, etc.
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Mainframe vs Server - The Debate Continues Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 29 Jul 2013 16:26:11 -0700mike.a.schwab@GMAIL.COM (Mike Schwab) writes:
major forces attempted to prevent it from happening ... and when they couldn't completely stop it ... they attempted to co-op it and reframe it
Grid Computing; Hook enough computers together and what do you get? A
new kind of utility that offers supercomputer processing on tap.
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/401444/grid-computing/
from above:
Back in the 1980s, the National Science Foundation created the
NSFnet: a communications network intended to give scientific researchers
easy access to its new supercomputer centers. Very quickly, one smaller
network after another linked in-and the result was the Internet as we
now know it. The scientists whose needs the NSFnet originally served are
barely remembered by the online masses.
... snip ...
we were originally suppose to get $20M to hook together the NSF
supercomputer centers ... then congress cut the budget, several other
things happened ... and then NSF finally releases RFP. Internal politics
prevented us from bidding ... director of NSF tried to help
... including writing a letter to the company 3Apr1986, NSF Director to IBM Chief Scientist and IBM Senior VP and director of Research, copying IBM CEO), ... but
that just made the internal politics worse (as did comments that what we
already had running was at least 5yrs ahead of all RFP responses). some
old email working with NSF leading up to NSFNET
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet
the communication group was spreading lots of misinformation internally
... even claims that it could run NSFNET over VTAM/SNA. One of the
people on the distribution list collected up a lot of the misinformation
emails and forwarded it to us ... heavily redacted copy of what he
forwarded
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email870109
I had hsdt project with T1 and faster links ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
recent discussion in a.f.c. of HSDT project where 1960s 2701 was last
mainframe product supporting T1 ... and that condition of some of the
HSDT funding ... I had to also install some series/1 with zirpel cards
(special FSD T1 support developed for the federal market)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#37
otherwise there wasn't any standard T1 product support.
The NSFNET RFP called for T1 links (in large part because I was already running T1 and faster links). The winning RFP response didn't actually install T1 links ... it installed 440kbit/sec links ... and then somewhat to create facade of meeting the letter of the RFP ... they had T1 trunks with telco multiplexors. I made snide remarks that if they went on the basis of the faster trunk that might carry a NSFNET 440kbit/sec link ... they might possibly even claim it was T5.
past posts mentioning NSFNET
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet
another way of co-opting the infrastructure was that the first mainframe
TCP/IP product ... got approx. 44kbytes/sec aggregate sustained using
nearly 3090 CPU. I did the software changes for RFC1044 support and in
some tuning tests at Cray Research got sustained channel speeds between
4341 and Cray ... using only modest amount of 4341 cpu (possibly 500
times improvement in number of bytes moved per instruction executed).
misc. past posts mentining rfc1044 support
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#1044
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:46:51 -0400Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> writes:
Debtors' prisons make an American comeback
http://boingboing.net/2012/04/24/debtors-prisons-make-an-amer.html
Alain Sherter of CBS MoneyWatch and the AP report on the disturbing
resurgence of debtor's prisons in America. Though it is technically no
longer legal to jail people for failure to pay their debts, the
debt-collection industry has figured out how to game the courts to
create a series of jail-able offenses related to nonpayment
... snip ...
and
Incarceration in the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States
Incarceration in the United States of America is one of the main forms
of punishment, rehabilitation, or both for the commission of felony and
other offenses. The United States has the highest documented
incarceration rate in the world. At year-end 2009, it was 743 adults
incarcerated per 100,000 population
... snip ...
based on incarceration/100k ... criminal activity in the US has increased by nearly order of magnitude in past couple decades ... except wallstreet ... S&L crisis had over 700 doing jail-time ... while the recent financial crisis was significantly worse than S&L crisis ... nobody yet has done jail time (the other side is that wallstreet criminal activity is significantly worse but it is not just too-big-to-fail but also too-big-to-prosecute and too-big-to-jail ... captured &/or paid-off all the regulators & officials)
Prison-industrial complex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison-industrial_complex
The promotion of prison building as a job creator and the use of inmate
labor are also cited as elements of the prison-industrial complex. The
term often implies a network of actors who are motivated by making
profit rather than solely by punishing or rehabilitating criminals or
reducing crime rates.
... snip ...
Private Prisons Industry: Increasing Incarcerations, Maximizing Profits
and Corrupting Our Democracy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-donnelly/private-prisons_b_1097667.html
Who's Getting Rich off the Prison-Industrial Complex?
http://www.vice.com/read/whos-getting-rich-off-the-prison-industrial-complex
Drug war and mass incarceration, by the numbers
http://www.salon.com/2013/04/08/drug_war_and_mass_incarceration_by_the_numbers/
recent posts mentioning too-big-to-jail (including money laundering for
the drug cartels and terrorists)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#4 HSBC's Settlement Leaves Us In A Scary Place
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#34 How Bankers Help Drug Traffickers and Terrorists
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#44 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#50 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#0 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#1 Libor Lies Revealed in Rigging of $300 Trillion Benchmark
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#28 Neil Barofsky: Geithner Doctrine Lives on in Libor Scandal
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#35 Adair Turner: A New Debt-Free Money Advocate
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#46 Bankers Who Made Millions In Housing Boom Misled Investors: Study
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#48 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#49 Bankers Who Made Millions In Housing Boom Misled Investors: Study
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#53 Should Bethany McLean Be Bothered by the Government Lawsuit Against S&P?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#55 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#61 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#35 Ex-Bailout Watchdog: JPMorgan's Actions "Entirely Consistent With Fraud"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#40 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#42 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#54 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#76 IBM Spent A Million Dollars Renovating And Staffing Its Former CEO's Office
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#81 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#84 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#86 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#94 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#2 Too-Big-To-Fail, Too-Big-To-Prosecute, Too-Big-To-Jail, not just a problem in the USA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#9 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#13 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#22 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#25 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#28 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#79 As an IBM'er just like the Marines only a few good men and women make the cut,
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#83 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#86 What Makes a thread about the European debt crisis Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#90 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#0 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#2 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#6 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#8 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#11 Secrecy for Sale: Inside the Global Offshore Money Maze
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#34 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#46 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#55 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#56 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#57 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#59 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#35 Some Hard Numbers On The Western Banking System
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#0 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#3 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#22 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Mainframe vs Server - The Debate Continues Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 30 Jul 2013 07:08:32 -0700sipples@SG.IBM.COM (Timothy Sipples) writes:
does that mean the mainframe numbers are more or less?? There are TPC benchmarks numbers for all the other IBM platforms.
cloud operator mega-datacenter numbers are that a large cloud mega-datacenter has more processing power than the aggregate of all mainframes in the world today and have staff of 60-120 people. The radical reduction in server systems prices and radical improvement in server price/performance has resulted in other costs starting to dominate total mega-datacenter budgets ... as a result they have been on the forefront of green datacenter and reducing all the other datacenter costs.
green datacenter posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#28 Reports: IBM may sell x86 server business to Lenovo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#38 Reports: IBM may sell x86 server business to Lenovo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#24 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
other mega-datacenter posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#16 From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#17 Still think the mainframe is going away soon: Think again. IBM mainframe computer sales are 4% of IBM's revenue; with software, services, and storage it's 25%
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#7 mainframe "selling" points
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#8 mainframe "selling" points
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#10 FW: mainframe "selling" points -- Start up Costs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#15 A Private life?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#25 Still think the mainframe is going away soon: Think again. IBM mainframe computer sales are 4% of IBM's revenue; with software, services, and storage it's 25%
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#84 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#91 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#19 Where Does the Cloud Cover the Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#28 Reports: IBM may sell x86 server business to Lenovo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#35 Reports: IBM may sell x86 server business to Lenovo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#37 Where Does the Cloud Cover the Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#51 Reports: IBM may sell x86 server business to Lenovo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#57 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#61 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#70 How internet can evolve
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#73 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#74 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#7 SAS Deserting the MF?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#12 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#21 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#43 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#45 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#40 The Mainframe is "Alive and Kicking"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#60 Making mainframe technology hip again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#66 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#23 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#32 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Mainframe vs Server - The Debate Continues Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 30 Jul 2013 07:33:51 -0700re:
also, as mentioned before ... part of the server issue is server chip vendors are saying that over half of the server chips now ship directly to cloud operators that are building their own servers ... these quantities don't even show up in the server market numbers. cloud operators have been saying for some time that they build their own servers for 1/3rd the price from brand name server vendors.
this possible is also behind recent news about IBM's attempts to unload its server business ... huge part of the market moving to the cloud as well was the downward pressure that cloud operators are putting on traditional server system prices and profits.
part of the cloud server and mega-datacenter ecology is that they need to have significant idle capacity for on-demand online access (serving multiple timezones only partially offsets the peaks and valleys of online activity). the cloud operators have been behind server chip design where power drops to near zero when idle ... but able to come up to peak operation on-demand. the enormous improvement in server system price/performance also contributes to huge provisioning of idle capacity for on-demand online requirements. this is also big driver in the optimizing of other datacenter costs ... not only power costs dropping to zero for idle systems ... but also cooling ... and can come up to full operation nearly instantaneously.
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: OSI: The Internet That Wasn't Date: 30 July 2013 Blog: IETF - The Internet Engineering Task Forcere:
OSI: The Internet That Wasn't; How TCP/IP eclipsed the Open Systems
Interconnection standards to become the global protocol for computer
networking
http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/networks/osi-the-internet-that-wasnt
A big transition from ARPANET to tcp/ip on 1Jan1983 was tcp having internetworking layer. The internal network had been larger than the ARPANET (/internet) from just about the beginning until late 85 or early 86. One of the issues was that the internal network had effectively a gateway-like technology in every node ... making it easy to add nodes and interconnect subnets. By comparison, the IMP-based ARPANET was tightly centralized control. In that sense OSI was much more like the old ARPANET ... lacking internetworking protocol
We were at interop '88 with lots of OSI technology in booths ... the gov. having mandated the elimination of internet and migration to OSI (GOSIP). We were also involved in taking HSP (high-speed protocol) to X3S3.3 (ISO chartered standards body dealing in OSI layers 3&4). ISO had mandate no standards that deviated from OSI model. HSP was rejected because 1) it supported intenetworking ... a layer that doesn't exist in OSI, 2) it went directly from top of transport/layer4 to LAN/MAC bypassing layer3/layer4 interface 3) it went directly to LAN/MAC interface ... which doesn't exist in OSI model ... sitting approx. in the middle of layer 3
The other was joke about IETF requires interoperable implementations to progress in standards process while ISO didn't even require that a standard be implementable.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: OSI: The Internet That Wasn't Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:48:20 -0400OSI: The Internet That Wasn't; How TCP/IP eclipsed the Open Systems Interconnection standards to become the global protocol for computer networking <a href="http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/networks/osi-the-internet-that-wasnt">http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/networks/osi-the-internet-that-wasnt
(linkedin) IETF group
http://lnkd.in/8ByAAs
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#64 OSI: The Internet That Wasn't
OSI: The Internet That Wasn't; How TCP/IP eclipsed the Open Systems
Interconnection standards to become the global protocol for computer
networking
http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/networks/osi-the-internet-that-wasnt
A big transition from ARPANET to tcp/ip on 1Jan1983 was tcp having
internetworking layer. The internal network had been larger than the
ARPANET (/internet) from just about the beginning until late 85 or
early 86. One of the issues was that the internal network had
effectively a gateway-like technology in every node ... making it easy
to add nodes and interconnect subnets. past posts mentioning internal
network
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
By comparison, the IMP-based ARPANET was tightly centralized control. In that sense OSI was much more like the old ARPANET ... lacking internetworking protocol
We were at interop '88 with lots of OSI technology in booths ... the
gov. having mandated the elimination of internet and migration to OSI
(GOSIP). some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#interop88
We were also involved in taking HSP (high-speed protocol) to X3S3.3
(ISO chartered standards body dealing in OSI layers 3&4). ISO had
mandate no standards that deviated from OSI model. HSP was rejected
because 1) it supported intenetworking ... a layer that doesn't exist
in OSI, 2) it went directly from top of transport/layer4 to LAN/MAC
bypassing layer3/layer4 interface 3) it went directly to LAN/MAC
interface ... which doesn't exist in OSI model ... sitting approx. in
the middle of layer 3 ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#xtphsp
The other was joke about IETF requires interoperable implementations to progress in standards process while ISO didn't even require that a standard be implementable.
recent post about NSFNET evolving into the modern internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#60 Mainframe vs Server - The Debate Continues
... aka tcp/ip was technology basis for modern internet, cix was business
basis for the modern internet and nsfnet was operational basis for
modern internet ... misc. past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: OSI: The Internet That Wasn't Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 22:01:57 -0400Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> writes:
more discussion here:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#60 Mainframe vs Server - The Debate Continues
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#37 8080 BASIC
For a time, the person responsible for AAPN (internal architecture white paper, AWP164) and I reported to the same executive. I used to bug him to stop trying to do something for SNA since they would never appreciate it ... and he should come to work on real networking TCP/IP) ... when it came time to announce AAPN, SNA group non-concurred and it took six weeks of corporate escalation ... finally the announcement letter was carefully rewritten to not imply any relationship between APPN and SNA.
in HSDT ... we were having eqiopment built on the otherside of the pacific ... friday before leaving for trip ... the communication group announced a new internal online discussion on "high-speed" ... with the following definition
low-speed <9.6kbits medium-speed 19.2kbits high-speed 56kbits very high-speed 1.5mbitsmonday morning on conference room wall on the other side of the pacific
low-speed <20mbits medium-speed 100mbits high-speed 200-300mbits very high-speed >600mbits
in the mid-80s, the communication group had no sna/vtam product that ran faster than 56kbits/sec (in HSDT i was running T1 and faster speed links) ... so they produced a report for top corporate executes that customers didn't need/want T1 links before the mid-90s. they contrived the numbers by using 32x5 "fat pipes" which would treat multiple parrallel 56kbit links as singe logical entity. They showed number of customers with 2, 3, ..., 5 links in fat pipe ... with the number dropping to zero for six links as evidence customers weren't interested in T1 for another decade. Trivial survey turned up 200 customers with T1 links ... but since there was no ibm support, they went with non-ibm products. What the communication group failed to realize was that the telco tarrifs for T1 was typically the same as 5-6 56kbit links.
With the increasing pressure for T1 in the late 80s ... the communication group was forced to come out with 3737. The problem was that SNA/VTAM protocol was capable of dealing with the latency surrounding T1 links to efficiently drive them. Basically 3737 was a bunch of 68k processors and whole bunch of electronic memory implementing a dummy vtam. The mainframe vtam was told that the 3737 was local CTCA talking to another local mainframe vtam. The 3737 would ACK data RUs as they come over from the local mainframe VTAM (as if they had successfully transmitted to the remote mainframe) ... and then use real networking protocols between the local 3737 and the remote 3737. The remote 3737 would then simulate a mainframe vtam system talking CTCA to the remote mainframe VTAM. Even at that, 3737 was limited to about 2mbits/sec aggregate thruput ... while T1, 1.5mbits/sec full-duplex was capable of 3mbits/sec aggregate.
before 3737, the comunication group was generating a lot of misinformation that sna/vtam could be used for T1 NSFNET ... which was untrue on many levels. 3737 didn't come out until some time after NSFNET ... and couldn't be used for anything else than SNA/VTAM (since majority of 3737 heavily involved in sna/vtam spoofing).
past posts mentioning 3737
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#75 We list every company in the world that has a mainframe computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#77 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
with these old email:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#email880130
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#email880606
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#email881005
the communication group fought hard to prevent announce/release of the mainframe tcp/ip product ... when they couldn't stop it being announced ... they switched and said it had to be done through the communication group (communication group had strategic ownership of everything that crossed the datacenter walls). When it shipped, there was a huge markup on the controller interface box ... and it got approx. 44kbytes/sec aggregate throughput using nearly full 3090 processor.
I did the software changes to the product to support rfc1044 and in some
throughput tests at cray research got sustained channel speed between
gray and 4341 using only modest amount of 4341 processor (possibly 500
times improvement in bytes moved per instruction executed). some past
posts mentioning doing rfc1044 support
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#1044
was shipped as part of release 1.2 ... announcement letter in this
old post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#43
as aside ... sjr was first corporate location that had arpanet/internet
gateway in 1982 ... collection of past posts on the subject
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/internet.htm
the ibm internal network was done by co-worker at science center
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks
it was larger than the arpanet/internet from just about the beginning
until late '85/early '86 ... but it wasn't sna/vtam. misc. past posts
mentioning internal network
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
in the late 80s about the same time the communication group was
generating bunch of mis-information about how sna/vtam could
be used for nsfnet ... old reference:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email870109
it was also generating mis-information for senior corporate executives
that if the internal network wasn't converted to sna/vtam ... it would
stop working. some old references:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#email870302
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#email870306
The original mainframe tcp/ip implementation for MVS was done by implementing simulation of needed vm370 functions on MVS. Later the communication group hired a contractor to do a tcp/ip implementation in vtam. his initial demo had tcp running much faster than lu6.2. Re was told that everybody knows that a *correct* implementation of tcp is much slower than lu6.2 ... and they would be only be paying for a *correct* implementation.
In the late 80s, I was also on the XTP technical advisery board ...
which the communication group attempted to block and heavily objected
... i was involved in taking XTP to ansi x3s3.3 for standardization
as HSP ... however, iso bodies were under constraint that they
couldn't do networking standards that didn't conform to osi model.
some old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#email881113
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#email890424
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#email890707
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006i.html#email890901
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#email911004
before he passed in the 90s, Postel, RFC editor, use to let
me help with STD1.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: OSI: The Internet That Wasn't Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:33:19 -0400Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> writes:
this is discussion about problems in large organization with the extreme
tight coupling of all the SNA pieces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#57
a change anywhere in the infrastructure has huge ripple effects through the rest of the infrastructure. multiple distributed datacenters become a nightmare ... requiring all pieces to done at the same time ... and if there was a glitch anywhere in the changes ... the whole infrastructure had to regress. doesn't scale and is unable to deal with multiple administrative domains.
in theory, this could be traced back to the original FS objectives
... to have such tight coupling and complexity of all the pieces
that it significantly raises the bar for clone controllers. Even
tho FS failed ... SNA can be considered to embody the original
FS objectives
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
disclaimer: I was involved at univ. as undergraduate with a clone
controller project ... where later, four of us were written up
for being responsible for (some part of) clone controller business
... misc. past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#360pcm
this is old discussion about working with baby bell that had done a vtam
emulator on series/1 ... and was working to turn it out as product (the
machinations that the communication group went though to block the
effort can only be characterized as "truth is greater than fiction")
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#63
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#67
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#70
They were able to run all the data in real network environment and implement a whole bunch of enhancements with spoofing the host mainframe vtam. One of the things they did was simulate cross-domain ownership of the resources (with the actual resources "owned" by the network cloud ... eliminating all single points of failure).
The IMS hot-standby group was extremely interested ... the problem was with VTAM session initiation on the hot-standby host. VTAM session initiation is huge resource hog and typical IMS hot-standby might have 30,000 to 60,000 terminals (or other kinds of devices like ATM machines). While IMS hot-standby fall-over might take a few minutes, it would take VTAM hours to get all the sessions for typical configuration back up and working. With resources "owned" by the cloud with no single point of failure ... it was also possible to create replicated shadow sessions with the VTAM on the hot-standby host (something impossible to do in the standard SNA environment) eliminating latency having to re-establish all the sessions at fall-over.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: OSI: The Internet That Wasn't Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:41:25 -0400re:
reference to Bob's comment on the subject (note at the moment, his
frame format has small box that requires lots of scrolling)
http://frankston.com/public/?n=IPOSIWasnt
recent post/reference to Bob on
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#57 The Internet: Missing the Light
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: OSI: The Internet That Wasn't Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 23:23:22 -0400hancock4 writes:
imagine tightly controlled meaning that every computer had to run the same exact software and had to have the same exact administrative tables. Any upgrades required simultaneously shutting down every system and having a serialized upgrade process that had to be complete before it could all be brought back up.
the infrastructure could be made enormously better if it wasn't for the fact that there are a lot of vested interests in the current status quo ... not all of these issues are just limited to the internet
for instance the majority of the fraudulent financial transactions could
be completely eliminated ... but for various reasons things are the way
they are ... some recent posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#45 U.S. agents 'got lucky' pursuing accused Russia master hackers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#46 Feds indict indentity theft ring
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#47 Feds indict indentity theft ring
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#52 U.S. agents 'got lucky' pursuing accused Russia master hackers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#56 Feds indict indentity theft ring
some past posts discussing security proportional to risk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#security.proportional.to.risk
some past posts discussing cal. data breach notification
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#data.breach.notification.notification
some past posts discussiong dialup/online banking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#dialup-banking
some past posts discussing identity theft
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#identity.theft
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: Internet Mainframe Forums Considered Harmful Date: 31 July 2013 Blog: Enterprise Systemsre:
IBM Mainframes Nipped, Tucked For Cloud Age
http://www.informationweek.com/hardware/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=191901599
from above:
"A lot of companies have racks upon racks upon racks of x86-class
servers running Linux applications, and it may be more economical and
practical to run on System Z rather than rack-mounted servers, which
can be an operational nightmare at high scale," says analyst Mike Kahn
of The Clipper Group.
... snip ...
note that IBM has had similar advertising for upgrading & consolidating older x86 processors (even if only a couple yrs old) to the latest generation of x86 processors since the processing power, price/performance, and power efficiency has improved significantly, easily justifying the upgrade.
Actually Google, Facebook, and many of the other mega-datacenter operators are part of publishing open standards for the systems and datacenter operation. They view these facets of dataprocessing as costs and open standards help drive reducing those costs and commoditizing
Pick your hardware vision: Open Compute Project vs. 'data centers in a
box' Two opposing trends gaining momentum in IT hardware procurement:
Open source design vs. convergence
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2013/112113-google-trumpets-chrome39s-spdy-276228.html
as per server chip manufactures ... now over half the x86 server chips ship to the OCP contingent (the server market numbers only reflect system sales by traditional server vendors) and is creating significant downward price pressure on the rest of the server market.
Mid-sized companies can reduce cost and complexity with a
datacenter-in-a-box
http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/techexec/2013/072513-best-practices.html
trivia ... the first/original datacenter "container" (datacenter in a
box) design was done by people at the wayback machine (archive.org)
and then worked with SUN to build.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9130081/Internet_Archive_to_unveil_massive_Wayback_Machine_data_center
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Modular_Datacenter
from above:
In late 2003, employees of the Internet Archive wrote a paper
proposing "an outdoor petabyte JBOD NAS box" of sufficient capacity to
store the then-current Archive in a 40' shipping container.[10] The
first implementation of the concept have been realized using Sun
Microsystems' Modular Datacenters in March 2009.[11]
... snip ...
recent references to mega-datacenters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#16 From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#17 Still think the mainframe is going away soon: Think again. IBM mainframe computer sales are 4% of IBM's revenue; with software, services, and storage it's 25%
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#7 mainframe "selling" points
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#8 mainframe "selling" points
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#10 FW: mainframe "selling" points -- Start up Costs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#15 A Private life?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#25 Still think the mainframe is going away soon: Think again. IBM mainframe computer sales are 4% of IBM's revenue; with software, services, and storage it's 25%
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#84 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#91 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#19 Where Does the Cloud Cover the Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#28 Reports: IBM may sell x86 server business to Lenovo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#35 Reports: IBM may sell x86 server business to Lenovo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#37 Where Does the Cloud Cover the Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#51 Reports: IBM may sell x86 server business to Lenovo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#57 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#61 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#70 How internet can evolve
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#73 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#74 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#7 SAS Deserting the MF?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#12 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#21 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#43 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#45 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#40 The Mainframe is "Alive and Kicking"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#60 Making mainframe technology hip again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#66 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#23 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#24 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#32 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#62 Mainframe vs Server - The Debate Continues
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#63 Mainframe vs Server - The Debate Continues
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 12:04:12 -0400recent item
FreeBSD Can Compete With Ubuntu Linux, Windows 8
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=freebsd_win8_ubuntu
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Engelbart Photo Tribute Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 12:10:57 -0400Engelbart Photo Tribute
other recent Engelbart posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#80 Still not convinced about the superiority of mainframe security vs distributed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#55 Arthur C. Clarke Predicts the Internet, 1974
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#60 Arthur C. Clarke Predicts the Internet, 1974
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#58 Doug Englebart
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#34 Douglas Engelbart's Unfinished Revolution
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: Why DOJ Deemed Bank Execs Too Big To Jail Date: 01 Aug 2013 Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and SecurityWhy DOJ Deemed Bank Execs Too Big To Jail
from article ....
I only wish that Justice Department action matched Attorney General
Holder's words when he said, introducing his task force,
"The mission is not just to hold accountable those who helped
bring about the last financial meltdown, but to prevent another
meltdown from happening"
... snip ...
... and activity has continued pretty much unabated ... in part propped up by trillions from federal reserve.
The rhetoric in congress a decade ago about passing Sarbanes-Oxley was
that it would prevent all future ENRONs & WORLDCOMs and guaranteed
that top executives and auditors violating SOX would do jail
time. Periodically there have been articles written that it would be
trivial to bring charges against the too-big-to-fail under SOX getting
convictions and jailtime. Even GAO apparently believed that the
gov. wasn't doing anything and started doing reports of fraudulent
financial reporting.
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-03-395R
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-06-678
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-06-1079sp
that doesn't explain the federal gov. trying to pre-empt state prosecution and fines for fraudulent mortgage activity ... federal gov. including clauses giving criminals immunity from state prosecution of some of the worst activities (basically federal using much more lenient prosecution as means of pre-empting much more severe state prosecution).
Most recently this has shown up in federal government settlement of robo-signing and fraudulent foreclosures and heavily pressuring state prosecutors to not seek much more severe penalties.
For each individual case they attempt to come up with excuses for not calling for jail time ... but in aggregate it creates a pattern of too-big-to-prosecute and too-big-to-jail ... especially when over 700 did jail time in S&L crisis and nobody has done jail time for activity last decade which was many times larger than the S&L crisis.
many times there have been suggestions that prosecution and jail time for many would be trivial to show under provisions of SOX which is claimed to mandate jail time ... and nobody has yet to do jail time under SOX ... even with GAO doing reports of fraudulent financial reporting showing increase after SOX.
Given the wide-spread nature of the fraudulent activity ... what about using RICO and collusion across multiple parties.
... early 2008, there was Wharton business school article that
estimated 1000 responsible for the majority of the mess and it would
go a long ways to correcting the situation if the federal gov. would
remove them from their positions ... of course that never happened.
https://web.archive.org/web/20080606084328/http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article.cfm?articleid=1933
Trader Describes How Dishonesty Pays in Finance, Big Time
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/08/trader-describes-how-dishonesty-pays-in-finance-big-time.html
'The most dishonest bankers walk away with the most money'
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/01/most-dishonest-bankers-most-money-banking-blog
Swaps Probe Finds Banks Rigged Rate at Expense of Retirees
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-02/swaps-probe-finds-banks-manipulated-rate-at-expense-of-retirees.html
The legal jujitsu of Goldman Sachs
http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/08/02/the-legal-jujitsu-of-goldman-sachs/
from above:
In any case, I'm increasingly coming to the conclusion that America's
system of jurisprudence simply isn't up to the task of holding banks
and bankers accountable for their actions
... snip ...
Conveniently Late Probe Finds Whole Nation Rigged at Expense of Middle
Class - You Don't Say!
http://mikenormaneconomics.blogspot.com/2013/08/conveniently-late-probe-finds-whole.html
past posts mentioning too-big-to-jail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
past posts mentioning libor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#libor
past posts mentioning Sarbanes-Oxley
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
past posts mentioning ENRON
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: How the NSA Manipulates Language To Mislead The Public Date: 02 Aug 2013 Blog: Google+re:
How the NSA Manipulates Language To Mislead The Public
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-01/how-nsa-manipulates-language-mislead-public
there was big privacy uproars over clipper chip backdoor as well as PC processor chip and trusted computing chip with unique identifiers. the current activity of harvesting everything on the internet seems to be much more extreme.
Damaged Goods -- How the NSA traveled down a slippery slope -- and how
it can regain Americans' trust.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2013/08/national_security_agency_s_surveillance_scandal_how_the_nsa_can_regain_americans.html
note includes privatizing of intelligence by for-profit companies
"Spies Like Us"
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/
from above:
Private contractors like Booz Allen now reportedly garner 70 percent
of the annual $80 billion intelligence budget and supply more than
half of the available manpower.
... snip ...
some computer tie-in: the head of IBM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_V._Gerstner,_Jr.
leaves and becomes chairman of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Group
which then does private equity buyout of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booz_Allen_Hamilton
How Booz Allen Hamilton Swallowed Washington
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-23/visualizing-how-booz-allen-hamilton-swallowed-washington
other posts mentioning Gerstner
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
Investigate Booz Allen Hamilton, not Edward Snowden; The firm that
formerly employed both the director of national intelligence and the
NSA whistleblower merits closer scrutiny.
http://www.alternet.org/corporate-accountability-and-workplace/investigate-booz-allen-hamilton-not-edward-snowden
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: The Most dishonest bankers walk away with the most monety Date: 02 Aug 2013 Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security'The most dishonest bankers walk away with the most money'
older reference to fraud is common place on wallstreet but nothing to
worry about from SEC
http://nypost.com/2007/03/20/cramer-reveals-a-bit-too-much/
In the congressional Madoff hearings they had the person that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff (SEC's hands were forced when Madoff turned himself in). He pointed out that tips turn up 13 times more fraud than audits ... and that SEC didn't have a tip hotline ... but had a 1-800 number for corporations to complain about audits. Note that this goes along with snide comments during Sarbanes-Oxley that possibly the only effective part of SOX was the whistle-blower sections (but then again, it required a SEC that was interested in doing something) ... most of SOX was enormous full employment gift to the audit industry
Also during the hearings it was pointed at that SEC primarily hires lawyers ... who have no experience in financial forensics aka which is chicken and which is egg ... if they aren't interested in finding fraud, they don't bother to hire people with skills to find fraud.
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: Barclays, Traders Fined $487.9 Million by U.S. Regulator Date: 02 Aug 2013 Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Securityre:
looks like JPMorgan fined only $400M (instead of $1B) for manipulating energy market (aka playing in commodity markets)
JPMorgan Accused By FERC Of Manipulating Power Market, To Be Fined
$400 Million
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-29/jpmorgan-accused-ferc-manipulating-power-market
JPMorgan Top Exec Blythe Masters Dodges Penalty As Bank Settles Energy
Manipulation Charges For $410M
http://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2013/07/30/jpmorgan-top-exec-blythe-masters-dodges-penalty-as-bank-settles-energy-manipulation-charges-for-410m/
from above:
JPMorgan has agreed to pay a civil penalty worth $285 million, and
return $125 million in "unjust profits" which will go to ratepayers in
California and Michigan, and to make annual reports to the commission
for three years. The settlement follows a string of victories by FERC
which extracted payments from Deutsche Bank and Barclays recently. The
bank also managed to avoid personal sanction to its employees,
including Masters, who was reported to be in their scope.
... snip ...
what ever happened to promises in congress about "Sarbanes-Oxley" would mean no more ENRONs and top executives guaranteed to do jail time.
Fines may not deter companies from manipulating markets
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/08/02/198450/fines-may-not-deter-companies.html
Banks Replacing Enron in Energy Incite Congress as Abuses Abound
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-02/banks-replacing-enron-in-energy-incite-congress-as-abuses-abound.html
Enron Redux -- Have We Learned Anything?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-02/guest-post-enron-redux-%E2%80%93-have-we-learned-anything
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: Why DOJ Deemed Bank Execs Too Big To Jail Date: 03 Aug 2013 Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Securityre:
Steve Cohen: The Feds Get Tough, Sort Of; Wall Street's most notorious
suspected insider trader is in deep trouble. But the bigger crooks are
still getting away with it.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/steve-cohen-the-feds-get-tough-sort-of-20130731
Enron Redux -- Have We Learned Anything?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-02/guest-post-enron-redux-%E2%80%93-have-we-learned-anything
Power & Commodities Market Manipulation
Derivatives
Off Balance Sheet Transactions
Lobbying
Collusion - Credit Rating Agencies & Investment Banking
& Convictions
Unlike the subprime crisis, there were several convictions in the
Enron case. In total, 19 former Enron executives either pleaded guilty
to fraud and other related charges or were convicted. Those
convictions included Enron's Chairman, Kenneth Lay; CEO, Jeffrey
Skilling and former CFO, Andrew Fastow. Enron's accountant, Arthur
Andersen was central in the accounting fraud and was also convicted
(although later reversed) for obstruction of justice for shredding
documents. Ultimately, Arthur Andersen was forced to surrender its
accounting licenses and sold its operations to competing accounting
firms. So far, the major players in the credit crisis have proven
too big too jail.
... snip ...
also one of the areas where the too-big-to-fail were given label too-big-to-jail was when they were given pass on jail time after having been caught money laundering for drug cartels and terrorists
and
The Scam Wall Street Learned From the Mafia; How America's biggest
banks took part in a nationwide bid-rigging conspiracy - until they
were caught on tape
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-scam-wall-street-learned-from-the-mafia-20120620
from above:
The banks achieved this gigantic rip-off by secretly colluding to rig
the public bids on municipal bonds, a business worth $3.7 trillion. By
conspiring to lower the interest rates that towns earn on these
investments, the banks systematically stole from schools, hospitals,
libraries and nursing homes -- from "virtually every state,
district and territory in the United States,"
... snip ...
Forget 'Fabulous Fab': Here's Why Wall Street's Biggest Fish Always
Slip Away
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/08/forget-fabulous-fab-heres-why-wall-streets-biggest-fish-always-slip-away/278343/
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes an Architecture Bizarre? Newsgroups: comp.arch, alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 11:01:39 -0400re:
How Washington lost its way
http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2013/08/04/how-washington-lost-its-way/
The Root of Washington's ills
http://fareedzakaria.com/2013/08/02/the-root-of-washingtons-ills/
The Root Of Washington's Ills: The K Street Lobbyists
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-on-the-left/080213-666226-washington-has-become-americs-wealthiest-city.htm
The Root of Washington's ills
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/fareed-zakaria-the-root-of-washingtons-ills/2013/08/01/085392aa-fa15-11e2-8752-b41d7ed1f685_story.html
draws analogy between the corruption in washington and Roman empire preceeding its fall in the 5th centuy
This Town
https://www.amazon.com/This-Town-Parties-inAmericas-ebook/dp/B008JHXO6S/
aka ... congress is considered the most corrupt institution on earth
... however there is also the "captured" regulatory agencies (although
heavily influenced by corrupt congress) ... recent posts in (closed
linkedin) Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security discussions
(too-big-to-fail also too-big-to-jail)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#73 Why DOJ Deemed Bank Execs Too Big To Jail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#75 The Most dishonest bankers walk away with the most monety
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#76 Barclays, Traders Fined $487.9 Million by U.S. Regulator
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#77 Why DOJ Deemed Bank Execs Too Big To Jail
additional detail on the fall of Rome ... was that the economic power
house in northern africa subsidized the enormous corruption in Rome. It
was left pretty much undefended (cost cutting, allowing the crooks to
skim even more money) and was captured ... which was when things started
to unravel. past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#22 Death From Above
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#23 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#24 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#37 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#31 Rome speaks to us. Their example can inspire us to avoid their fate
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#66 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#75 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: copyright protection/Doug Englebart Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 11:59:24 -0400Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
how about the line where US is paying UK $150M to spy on Americans on their behalf (since UK is under fewer constraints spying on americans)
NSA Pays $150 Million To British Spy Agency In Secret
http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/08/02/nsa-pays-150-million-to-british-spy-agency-in-secret/
Exclusive: NSA pays £100m in secret funding for GCHQ
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/aug/01/nsa-paid-gchq-spying-edward-snowden
late 80s, the branch office serving Fort Meade con'ed me into going in for presentation on high-speed networking, 3tier architecture, secure infrastructures, etc.
on way out they did routine search of my backback ... and I had a document that had "IBM Confidential" stamped on every page ... that they confiscated. It took 30 minutes to get it back ... the guards said that they had no way of knowing that "IBM" wasn't government classification ... the security office said that they've had this happen before (supposedly regular visiters are made aware of bringing in such things).
misc. past posts mentioning HSDT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
misc. past posts mentioning 3tier architecture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#3tier
so as I've mentioned in prior posts ... one scenario is that with the privatization of intelligence by for-profit corporations ... they have much more short term ROI ... and less concern about security for things leaking out.
slight x-over with
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#78 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
where corrupt Rome reduced security/troops guarding the north africa economic power house.
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: Why DOJ Deemed Bank Execs Too Big To Jail Date: 05 Aug 2013 Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Securityre:
How Washington lost its way
http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2013/08/04/how-washington-lost-its-way/
The Root of Washington's ills
http://fareedzakaria.com/2013/08/02/the-root-of-washingtons-ills/
The Root Of Washington's Ills: The K Street Lobbyists
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-on-the-left/080213-666226-washington-has-become-americs-wealthiest-city.htm
The Root of Washington's ills
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/fareed-zakaria-the-root-of-washingtons-ills/2013/08/01/085392aa-fa15-11e2-8752-b41d7ed1f685_story.html
This Town
https://www.amazon.com/This-Town-Parties-inAmericas-ebook/dp/B008JHXO6S/
draws parallels between corruption level in washington and roman empire before its fall.
"Captured" regulators seemed to be a better explanation ... explaining how things went from over 700 doing jail time in S&L crisis and so far nobody doing jail time in the current financial mess (even though it was several times larger). Also explains why SEC failed to do anything about Madoff for over decade despite numerous tips & reports.
When financial mess was breaking, there were numerous misdirection and obfuscation reports .... like the mathematical risk models were too complex and were the root of the failure. Lots of risk managers then came back and said that they had been directed/mandated to fiddle the inputs to the risk models until the business people got the desired results (aka garbage-in, garbage-out).
In the middle of all this was the congressional hearings into the pivotal role played by the rating agencies ... selling triple-A ratings even when both the sellers and the rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A.
securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages. In the late 90s, we were asked to look at improving the integrity of the securitized mortgage supporting documents (as countermeasure to fraudulent mortgages). However, the loan originators being able to buy triple-A ratings, no longer had to care about loan quality or buyers qualifications. With the triple-A ratings, they could do no-down, no-documentation, liar loans (triple-A rating trumps documentation ... with no-documentation, there was no longer an issue of document integrity). All these no-documentation loans then led to robo-signing fraud ... generating the documents way after the fact.
SEC Door, Spinning Mightily, Smacks Investors
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-04/sec-door-spinning-mightily-smacks-investors-william-d-cohan.html
from above:
The appalling -- yet hardly surprising -- news that Robert Khuzami,
the former enforcement director at the Securities and Exchange
Commission, has cashed in his four-year stint for a $5 million-plus
salary at Kirkland & Ellis, a prominent Wall Street law firm, is the
latest example of the corrupt relationship between money and power in
the U.S.
... snip ...
How a big US bank laundered billions from Mexico's murderous drug
gangs; As the violence spread, billions of dollars of cartel cash
began to seep into the global financial system. But a special
investigation by the Observer reveals how the increasingly frantic
warnings of one London whistleblower were ignored
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/03/us-bank-mexico-drug-gangs
reports of too-big-to-fail money laundering for drug cartels and terrorists the summer of 2010 seemed to be the start of the too-big-to-prosecute and too-big-to-jail ... of course their fraudulent activity isn't limited to money laundering
On the SEC's Too Little, Too Late "Fabulous Fab" CDO Victory
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/08/on-the-secs-too-little-too-late-fabulous-fab-cdo-victory.html
past posts mentioning madoff
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff
past posts mentioning toxic CDOs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
past posts mentioning Sarbanes-Oxley
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
past posts mentioning money laundering
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: copyright protection/Doug Englebart Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:22:56 -0400Ibmekon writes:
couple more from today
Fears for US Army bullet-proof vests over poor tests
http://www.defencetalk.com/fears-for-us-army-bullet-proof-vests-over-poor-tests-36151/
Goodman: America's Bloated Military Spending Hurts U.S. Mission
http://www.pogo.org/blog/2013/08/goodman-americas-bloated-military-spending-hurts-us.html
recent posts mentioning privatizing intelligence:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#26 Louis V. Gerstner Jr. lays out his post-IBM life
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#41 Is newer technology always better? It almost is. Exceptions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#54 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#61 Big Data Is Opening Doors, but Maybe Too Many
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#65 The Real Snowden Question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#76 The failure of cyber defence - the mindset is against it
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#79 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#31 IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#51 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#54 copyright protection/Doug Englebart
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#74 How the NSA Manipulates Language To Mislead The Public
recent posts mentioning "National Insecurity"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#16 A Matter of Mindset: Iraq, Sequestration and the U.S. Army
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#28 A Matter of Mindset: Iraq, Sequestration and the U.S. Army
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#45 A Matter of Mindset: Iraq, Sequestration and the U.S. Army
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#93 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#98 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#5 Lessons Learned from the Iraq War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#7 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#54 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#5 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#53 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#54 NSA phone records
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#78 Has the US Lost Its Grand Strategic Mind?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: copyright protection/Doug Englebart Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:07:08 -0400re:
More Surveillance Abuse Exposed! Special DEA Unit Is Spying On
Americans And Covering It Up
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/08/05/more-surveillance-abuse-exposed-special-dea-unit-is-spying-on-americans-and-covering-it-up/
Exclusive: U.S. directs agents to cover up program used to investigate
Americans
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE97409R20130805
from above:
A secretive U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration unit is funneling
information from intelligence intercepts, wiretaps, informants and a
massive database of telephone records to authorities across the nation
to help them launch criminal investigations of Americans.
... snip ...
reference to too-big-to-fail doing loads of money laundering for drug cartels and to terrorists ... and lack of criminal prosecution is part of reason too-big-to-fail now are also considered too-big-to-prosecute and too-big-to-jail
How a big US bank laundered billions from Mexico's murderous drug
gangs; As the violence spread, billions of dollars of cartel cash
began to seep into the global financial system. But a special
investigation by the Observer reveals how the increasingly frantic
warnings of one London whistleblower were ignored
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/03/us-bank-mexico-drug-gangs
past posts mentioning money laundering
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering
for other drift ... part of theme that drug convictions (except for
too-big-to-fail) are part of for-profit prisons and prison labor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#4 HSBC's Settlement Leaves Us In A Scary Place
above posts includes
Outrageous HSBC Settlement Proves the Drug War is a Joke
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/outrageous-hsbc-settlement-proves-the-drug-war-is-a-joke-20121213
The Punishment and the Crime; Banks Don't Go to Prison
http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/12/21/banks-dont-go-to-prison/
other recent references to privatising of prisons and prison labor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#37 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#43 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#65 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#21 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#55 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#69 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#52 What Makes a substance Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#60 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#61 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
other recent threads mentioning surveillance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#61 NYT: N.S.A. Chief Says Phone Logs Halted Terror Threats
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#20 Louis V. Gerstner Jr. lays out his post-IBM life
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#21 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#24 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#25 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#26 Louis V. Gerstner Jr. lays out his post-IBM life
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#41 Is newer technology always better? It almost is. Exceptions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#54 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#61 Big Data Is Opening Doors, but Maybe Too Many
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#65 The Real Snowden Question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#76 The failure of cyber defence - the mindset is against it
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#79 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#5 Botnets Unearthed -- The ZEUS BOT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#31 IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#51 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#52 U.S. agents 'got lucky' pursuing accused Russia master hackers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#69 OSI: The Internet That Wasn't
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#74 How the NSA Manipulates Language To Mislead The Public
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: copyright protection/Doug Englebart Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:20:59 -0400Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> writes:
note that the person that was charged for providing unclassified information for the article was treated extremely badly for a number of years ... and then most of the charges were thrown out and he was allowed to plead to a misdemeanor
they also overlap with MICC with exaggerating as means of keeping
the funds flowing ... misc. past posts mentioning micc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
note that there is also the possibility in the privatizing of intelligence by for-profit companies for them to use classified information for commercial economic advantage (both direct financial benefit with the contracts but potential of significant indirect financial benefit).
little or nothing would be done if they also fell into the
category of too-big-to-fail ... since the financial institutions
having been found to engage in significant fraudulent activity
are being let off with the equivalent of handslaps.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: copyright protection/Doug Englebart Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 16:53:08 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
in the wake of the Success Of Failure incident, congress put the agency on probation for five years and not allowed to manage their own projects.
the issue about having for-profit companies manage projects possibly accounts for less concern for privacy, the constitution and the bill of rights.
it also may be associated with further privatization of the gov ... some quarters claiming congress expects 5% kickback on gov. contracts to for-profit companies (which they don't see if appropriations goes purely to gov. agencies).
the agency put on probation may also have contributed to how badly the whistleblower was treated ... and the severity of the charges brought ... even when they didn't hold up.
past posts mentioning whistle-blower
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#79 Innovation and iconoclasm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#42 China's J-20 Stealth Fighter Is Already Doing A Whole Lot More Than Anyone Expected
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#39 NPC Luncheon with Thomas Drake, NSA Whistleblower
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#45 A Matter of Mindset: Iraq, Sequestration and the U.S. Army
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#54 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#50 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#53 NSA phone records
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#57 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#61 NYT: N.S.A. Chief Says Phone Logs Halted Terror Threats
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#26 Louis V. Gerstner Jr. lays out his post-IBM life
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#41 Is newer technology always better? It almost is. Exceptions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#65 The Real Snowden Question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#76 The failure of cyber defence - the mindset is against it
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: spacewar Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 21:25:48 -0400"Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> writes:
INW4150 EQU * COMMON 2741, 1050 WRITE SETUP @V200820 00246000
AH R4,CONCNT POINT TO END OF ORIGINAL DATA @V200820 00247000
SLR R1,R1 NO IDLES THAT WE KNOW OF YET @V200820 00248000
TM CONPARM,NOAUTO AUTOMATIC CARRIAGE RETURN ? @V200820 00249000
BO INW4151 NO -- NO IDLES REQUIRED @V200820 00250000
LA R1,24(0,R3) DATA COUNT + 1.5 + ROUNDUP @VA06176 00251100
SR R0,R0 CLEAR FOR DIVIDE @V200820 00252000
D R0,F10 COMPUTE NUMBER OF IDLES REQUIRED @V200820 00253000
C R1,F15 NEVER NEED MORE THAN THIS @V200820 00254000
BL *+8 LENGTH MAY BE MORE IF BACKSPACES @V200820 00255000
LA R1,15(0) THIS IS A MAXIMUM @V200820 00256000
LTR R1,R1 DO WE NEED ANY AT ALL ? @V200820 00257000
BNP *+8 NO -- SKIP IT @V200820 00258000
EX R1,SETIDLES MOVE IN A STRING OF IDLE CHARACTE@V200820 00259000
MVI 0(R4),X'5B' INSERT THE CARRIAGE RETURN CHARAC@V200820 00260000
LA R1,1(0,R1) ADD ONE TO INCLUDE THE 'CR' @V200820 00261000
... snip ...
basically one idle for every ten chars, maximum of 15 idles.
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: IBM unveils new "mainframe for the rest of us" Date: 06 Aug 2013 Blog: IBMersIBM unveils new "mainframe for the rest of us"
max z196 with 80processors is rated at 50BIPS and goes for $28M ... or $560,000/BIPS. ibm e5-2600 blade has base price list of $1815 and e5-2600 have rating of 527BIPS ... or $3.44/BIPS. server chip manufactures say that now over half the server chips go directly to cloud operators ... who have been claiming they build their own servers for 1/3rd price of brand name servers ... or close to $1/BIPS.
note that ibm financials claim that IBM earns total of $6.25 mainframe revenue for every dollar of of mainframe processor revenue ... so $28M z196 system would be total of $175M or $3.5M/BIPS
a rack of 50-60 e5-2600 blades would be the aggregate of 26TIPS to 32TIPS ... or the equivalent of 527 to 632 max configured z196 systems. max configured ec12 is 75BIPS ... so a rack of 50-60 blades is equivalent processing of 351 to 422 max. configured ec12 systems.
part of the issue is that risc processors have had significant performance over x86 for decades. however, the last several x86 generations have been risc hardware cores with a hardware layer that translates x86 instructions into risc micro-ops. This has largely eliminated the performance difference between x86 and risc servers.
Even mainframes are starting to implement risc features ... half the per process improvement from z10 to z196 is attributed to incorporation of hardware features that have been part of risc for decades ... and big part of per processor improvement from z196 to ec12 is also attributable to risc-like performance features.
IBM Mainframes Nipped, Tucked For Cloud Age
http://www.informationweek.com/hardware/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=191901599
from above:
"A lot of companies have racks upon racks upon racks of x86-class
servers running Linux applications, and it may be more economical and
practical to run on System Z rather than rack-mounted servers, which
can be an operational nightmare at high scale," says analyst Mike Kahn
of The Clipper Group.
... snip ...
note that IBM has had similar advertising for upgrading & consolidating older x86 processors to the latest generation of x86 processors since the processing power, price/performance, and power efficiency has improved significantly, easily justifying the upgrade.
MIPS/BIPS is normally done as Dhrystone MIPS based on number of
iterations compared to baseline number of iterations done by 370/158
taken as being one MIPS machine (it isn't actually the count of
instructions).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second
old email about doing benchmarks on engineering models of 4341 for
LLNL with precursor to Dhrystone ... at the time LLNL was looking at
doing 70 4341 compute farm.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email790212
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email790220
in this past long-winded post (with lots of other detail)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#21
POK 3033 large system was feeling threatened by compute farms of 4341, cluster of 4341s had higher aggregate processing than 3033, smaller physical footprint, lower environmental footprint, higher aggregate i/o throughput, better channels, and lower cost than 3033. In internal politics, at one point head of POK got the allocation of critical 4341 component, cut in half ... as way of dealing with the competition.
Besides compute farms, the lower environmental & physical footprint also resulted in corporations ordering hundreds of 4300s at a time and putting them out in departmental areas .... sort of the leading edge of the coming distributed computing tsunami (internally inside of ibm, converting departmental conference rooms for distributed 4341s resulted in conference&meeting room scarcity).
MVS was also locked out of this huge explosion in distributed 4300s. One of the problems was that 3380 CKD was high-end datacenter disk ... the only mid-range disk was 3370 FBA with the evironmental characteristics for departmental rooms ... and MVS didn't support FBA (to this day ... even though real CKD disks haven't been manufactured for decades). Eventually to give MVS a possibly entry into the exploding distributed computing market, a 3375 CKD disk was brought out (CKD simulated on 3370 FBA). However, another MVS barrier was typically a MVS system required 20-40 humans for care&feeding ... which didn't scale well for large hundreds of distributed systems.
Note that following on for 4331/4341 were the 4361/4381 ... which was expected to see continued explosion in the mid-range market (both compute farms and especially distributed computing) ... however by the time of 4361/4381, this mid-range market was already starting to move to workstations and large PCs.
other old 4300 related email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#43xx
and for other drift, some old email about working on cluster scale-up
for RISC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa
other topic drift ...in 1980 I was con'ed into doing channel extender support for STL (since renamed silicon valley lab), STL was bursting at the seams and 300 people from the IMS group were being moved to offsite bldg. and they had been offered "remote 3270" (back to STL datacenter), which they found totally intolerable. The channel extender work put local 3270s out at the offsite bldg and they couldn't tell the difference between local 3270s at the remote bldg and locally back in STL. The vendor then wanted to release my support ... however there was a group in POK playing with some serial fiber stuff that managed to block the release (afraid that if it was in the market, it would make it more difficult to release their fiber stuff).
In 1988, I was asked to help LLNL standardize and get out some serial stuff they had ... which eventually morphs into FCS (fibre channel standard, one of the features was download complete i/o package like I had done for channel extender work in 1980). Note that by the time the old POK serial fiber stuff came out in 1990 with es/9000 as ESCON, it was already obsolete.
Some of the POK channel engineers then get involved with FCS and define an extremely heavy-weight layer that drastically cuts the throughput of the underlying FCS ... and eventually ships as FICON.
Recently a peak I/O z196 benchmark did 2M IOPS with 104 FICONs and 14 system assist processors (SAPs). By comparison, a recent (single) FCS was announced for e5-2600 claiming over 1M IOPS (for single FCS) ... aka two such FCS beat 104 FICONS. 14 SAPs 100% busy is rated for 2.2M SSCH/sec ... however it is recommended SAPs kept to 70% busy or 1.5M SSCH/sec.
There has been enhancement done to the original FICON that downloads channel packages to the remote end (to mitigate the throughput loss from latency on end-to-end handshaking on each CCW) ... aka "TCW" ... similar to what I had done for channel-extender support in 1980 and also for the original FCS ... but that only slightly narrows the throughput difference between FICON and the underlying FCS.
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: IBM's OpenPower consortium with Nvidia, Google aims to advance datacenter Date: 06 Aug 2013 Blog: IBMersIBM's OpenPower consortium with Nvidia, Google aims to advance datacenter
Note this was tried before with AIM/somerset (Apple, IBM, Motorola)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM_alliance
IBM tries ARM-style licensing to reverse decline of Power CPUs
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/08/ibm-to-begin-arm-style-licensing-of-power-cpu-architecture/
part of Apple leaving AIM was IBM concentrating POWER on the server market and letting the low-power, laptop and tablet flavors go by the wayside. x86 kept up with both the low-power laptop versions as well as the server versions.
Power/RISC had throughput advantage of x86 for decades ... but last several generations of x86 server chips have moved to RISC cores with hardware layer that translate x86 instructions into RISC micro-ops. This significantly narrows the throughput different between RISC and x86.
The other issue is with the enormous drop in server costs at the large cloud operations (more x86 server chips going to large cloud operations than brand name vendors ... cloud operations that are building their own servers at 1/3rd the cost of brand name servers) ... power & cooling has become an increasing proportion of large cloud costs. The large cloud operators have been on the forefront of driving green, power, cooling, total-cost-of-operation, etc for servers.
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: IBM improves density of new Flex System servers Date: 06 Aug 2013 Blog: IBMersIBM improves density of new Flex System servers; IBM's new servers are based on a dual-chip design, which doubles the number of CPUs in a slot
remember the x86 server chip manufacturers are now saying they ship over half their chips directly to large cloud operations ... who build their own servers at 1/3rd the price of brand name vendors (and these servers don't even show up in the server market numbers).
there are rumors that some of the brand named vendors are starting to do server assembly services at close to the 1/3rd cloud costs for smaller public&private cloud operations (that aren't large enough to have their own in-house operation)
The large cloud operators are further driving cost reduction with their "Open Compute" ... recent reference
Inside Facebook's lab: A mission to make hardware open source
http://www.zdnet.com/inside-facebooks-lab-a-mission-to-make-hardware-open-source-7000004557/
recent posts mentioning "Open Compute"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#21 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#43 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#45 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#32 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#70 Internet Mainframe Forums Considered Harmful
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: FBI Finds Holes in System Protecting Economic Data Date: 05 Aug 2013 Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and SecurityFBI Finds Holes in System Protecting Economic Data; FBI finds 'operational vulnerabilities' involving 'black boxes' used to control the release of sensitive economic data
more discussion here about HFT using to trade ahead of the rest of the market:
FBI Probing Holes In Early Economic Data Release
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-06/fbi-probing-holes-early-economic-data-release
has HFT example of 15millisecond leak here
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-03/watch-todays-15-millisecond-leak-ism-print
another early leak here
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-02/presenting-todays-blatant-bond-market-manipulation-or-bls-leak
fine for HFT stock manipulation
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-11/third-largest-futures-broker-gets-record-fine-hft-stock-market-manipulation
another reference
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-05/hft-quote-churn-spam-soars-record-volume-plummets
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: copyright protection/Doug Englebart Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 16:39:29 -0400Ibmekon writes:
the basic issue is sharing of authentication information (pins/passwords) violates fundamental security principle of being able to show it was the person responsible.
there is a different issue in europe with regard to deployment of chip&pin card and changing the burden of proof in dispute. REG-E in the US places the burden of proof on the institution not on the individual.
example of changing burden of proof was a case where person claimed that they didn't make a withdrawal from ATM machine ... and the financial institution claimed it couldn't find the ATM surveillance video. Under REG-E, the burden is on the financial institution to produce the surveillance video to prove it was the individual; changing the burden of proof requires that the individual produce the surveillance video to prove it wasn't them.
the change in burden of proof was further complicated by individuals being told that they weren't to report fraud to law enforcement ... but to their financial institution (and the financial institution would decide whether to report fraud to law enforcement).
a couple recent posts on the subject
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#45 U.S. agents 'got lucky' pursuing accused Russia master hackers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#52 U.S. agents 'got lucky' pursuing accused Russia master hackers
recent news item on financial institutions failing to report fraud to law enforcement:
UK banks give cybercrooks impunity by failing to report fraud - MPs
http://www.finextra.com/news/FullStory.aspx?newsitemid=25067
and few older references
Card victims told 'don't call police'
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/credit-and-loans/idfraud/article.html?in_article_id=418947&in_page_id=159
Concern over new fraud reporting
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/moneybox/6513835.stm
New rules to report fraud announced
http://www.moneyexpert.com/News/Credit-Card/18106248/New-rules-to-report-fraud-announced.aspx
Banks charging to the top of the hate parade
http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/opinion.cfm?id=508912007
Financial institutions to report on card fraud
http://www.gaapweb.com/news/135-Financial-institutions-to-report-on-card-fraud.html
UK Tells Consumers To Report Financial Fraud to Their Banks
http://www.paymentsnews.com/2007/04/uk_tells_consum.html
in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#28 sizeof() was: The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
misc. past posts mentioning key escrow
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm9.htm#pkcs12 A PKI Question: PKCS11-> PKCS12
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm16.htm#11 Difference between TCPA-Hardware and a smart card (was: example: secure computing kernel needed)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm18.htm#12 dual-use digital signature vulnerability
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm23.htm#6 PGP "master keys"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#39 PKI Implementation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#53 public key confusion
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004i.html#12 New Method for Authenticated Public Key Exchange without Digital Certificates
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006d.html#39 transputers again was Re: The demise of Commodore
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006d.html#40 transputers again was Re: The demise of Commodore
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#1 Decoding the encryption puzzle
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#48 Data Center Theft
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#62 Ransomware
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#14 August 7, 1944: today is the 65th Anniversary of the Birth of the Computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#56 About that "Mighty Fortress"... What's it look like?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#85 Key Escrow from a Safe Distance: Looking back at the Clipper Chip
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#63 Reject gmail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#65 Reject gmail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#70 Operating System, what is it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#31 The Vindication of Barb
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#40 The Vindication of Barb
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#69 The failure of cyber defence - the mindset is against it
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