https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/spcommand.jpg
From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 01 Jan, 2012 Subject: Revolution Through Banking? Blog: FacebookRevolution Through Banking?
references:
Revolution Through Banking?
http://www.thenation.com/article/165333/revolution-through-banking
Rhetoric on the floor of congress said the primary purpose of the 1999 bank modernization act (GLBA) was if you weren't already a bank, you didn't get to become a bank (eliminating competition; focused on walmart and m'soft; at the time there was speculation that walmart would cut the cost of banking by possibly 80-90%, opening the way to serve the significant "unbanked" population). GLBA also repealed Glass-Steagall opening the way for too-big-to-fail (as well as a few other favors for the financial industry). During the massive bailout by the federal reserve, some of the institutions lacked the banking charters making them eligible for some of FEDs assistance ... so FED gave them banking charters (theoretically in violation of GLBA).
some recent posts mentioning GLBA:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#45 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#59 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#19 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#28 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#41 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#48 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#55 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#7 Home prices may drop another 25%, Shiller predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#9 Breaches and Consumer Backlash
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#25 US Housing Crisis Is Now Worse Than Great Depression
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#55 CISO's Guide to Breach Notification
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#18 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#45 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#68 Why the US needs a data privacy law -- and why it might finally get one
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#2 House panel approves data breach notification bill
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#53 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#67 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#69 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#73 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#74 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#0 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#18 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#71 Don't Dump the Volcker Rule Just Because It's Not Perfect
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#52 Civilization, doomed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#77 How Pursuit of Profits Kills Innovation and the U.S. Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#80 How Pursuit of Profits Kills Innovation and the U.S. Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#28 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#131 The Times E-Mails Millions by Mistake to Say Subscriptions Were Canceled
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 01 Jan, 2012 Subject: The war on terabytes Blog: LinkedInThe war on terabytes; Policymakers worry about attacks on America's financial system
related item:
http://nypost.com/2007/03/20/cramer-reveals-a-bit-too-much/
... says nothing to worry about from SEC and implies wide-spread
and then from "Thinking, Fast & Slow"
https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-and-Slow-ebook/dp/B00555X8OA
pg. 212:
"Since then, my questions about the stock market have hardened into a
larger puzzle: a major industry appears to be built largely on an
illusion of skill. Billions of shares are traded every day, with many
people buying each stock and others selling it to them"
... snip ...
either pure luck/chance and/or stuff is being manipulated behind the scenes.
In the wake of enron&worldcom, congress passed Sarbanes-Oxley to
prevent similar activities in the future (including stringent public
company financial filings audit requirements, along with prison
sentences for senior executives). however, possibly because GAO didn't
think SEC was doing anything ... it started doing reports of problem
public company financial filings (fraud &/or audit problems) showing
increase after SOX:
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-06-1079sp
Possibly 1) SOX had no effect on fraudulent filings 2) SOX encouraged fraudulent filings 3) if it weren't for SOX all filings would be fraudulent.
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: IBM manual formats Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 1 Jan 2012 09:22:27 -0800scott_j_ford@YAHOO.COM (Scott Ford) writes:
I merged the multiple postscript files from Melinda's "VM and the VM
Community: Past, Present, and Future" into single PDF file and then also
ran it through Amazon's (kindle) conversion. Melinda now has the files
up on her web page:
https://www.leeandmelindavarian.com/Melinda#VMHist
and it came out quite well. However, converting some of the other files to kindle format came out less well. Standard PDF->Kindle conversion reflows words which messes up tables and other situations involving multiple blank fixed spacing.
Normally PDF->kindle seems to come out with smaller file ...but the "VM and the VM Community" had a lot of jpeg images ... which resulted in kindle file that was twice the size of the pdf file.
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 02 Jan, 2012 Subject: We are on the brink of a historic decision [referring to defence cuts]. Blog: Boyd Strategyre:
slightly related topic drift: Robert Steele: On the Record --
4% of the Force Takes 80% of the Casualties, Receives 1% of the
Pentagon Budget
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2011/12/robert-steele-on-the-record-4-of-the-force-takes-80-of-the-casualties-receives-1-of-the-pentagon-budget/
trivia ... i got sucked into helping design communication sat. earth
station and using one of the transponders on SBS4 ... so got invited
to attend launch of 41-D carrying SBS4. Later after the shuttle
disaster, one of the scifi magazines (Analog?) had a editorial with
parody involving somebody in the court convincing the queen that
columbus' ships should be built in the Pyrenees where the trees grow,
then cut in three sections for transport to the harbor, and then
sections tar'ed back together at the harbor for sailing across the
ocean ... attributing the o-rings to congressional pressure to parceling
out bits&pieces of the program to different states ... and the booster
award had to be physically performed in state that had no direct
transportation to launch pad ... item repeated from 29Dec2010 in
Compressing the OODA-loop discussion:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#61 Compressing the OODA-Loop - Removing the D (and maybe even an O)
Over the years I've been at conferences with various review including
these guys would present status:
http://stargazer2006.online.fr/space/roton.htm
&
http://www.hobbyspace.com/AAdmin/archive/Interviews/Systems/GaryHudson.html
Pournelle was regular so he may have been responsible for inviting
them. Scaled composites also doing:
http://www.scaled.com/
More recently somebody brought me back several souvenirs including:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/spcommand.jpg
In any case, the practice of giving dribs & dabs of a program to large number of different parties (to gain their support & buy-in) has been blamed for being at the root of large number of problems.
Eisenhower originated the MIC phrase ... and recent accounts are that he originally was going to say military-industrial-congressional complex (MICC) but he shortened it at the last minute. There is an enormous amount of obfuscation and misdirection in the discussions because of the huge vested interests with all the graft and corruption. Cutting through all the layers is not a trivial task and lots of the buzz words have been co-opted as part of the obfuscation (if they are being used these days it is almost automatically a warning signal).
A Boyd theme would be agile and adaptable and efforts have been so polluted with pork, graft, and corruption (antithesis of agile and adaptable) ... it is difficult to determine if something actually has core of validity. An example is that the o-ring investigation pointed the finger at everything else rather than mention that o-ring design was a direct consequence of pork.
CSPAN2 is broadcasting in real time .... Age of Greed: The Triumph of
Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present
https://www.amazon.com/Age-Greed-Triumph-Finance-ebook/dp/B004DEPF6I/
seems to track very closely with:
http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2011/10/journal-why-the-us-middle-class-is-broken.html
... most of the discussion was about wallstreet & finance ... with
regard to washington letting them get away with it (for decades)
... but in q&a section ... he lumped DOD and FDA into same category ... every possible category that congress might have a finger.
Also reflects the quote from Thinking, Fast & Slow:
Since then, my questions about the stock market have hardened into a
larger puzzle: a major industry appears to be built largely on an
illusion of skill.
other past posts mentioning columbus' ship analogy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004k.html#54 Xah Lee's Unixism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#79 NASA proves once again that, for it, the impossible is not even difficult
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#62 End of an era
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#49 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
misc. past posts mentioning 41-d
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#27 Tysons Corner, Virginia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#28 Western Union data communications?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#29 IBM 3725 Comms. controller - Worth saving?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#14 Ping: Anne & Lynn Wheeler
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#23 Health care and lies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004o.html#60 JES2 NJE setup
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#21 Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#17 Ethernet, Aloha and CSMA/CD -
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#55 5963 (computer grade dual triode) production dates?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#11 An Out-of-the-Main Activity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#16 Why I use a Mac, anno 2006
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#31 "25th Anniversary of the Personal Computer"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#41 Year-end computer bug could ground Shuttle
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#61 Damn
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#19 IBM-MAIN longevity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#20 IBM-MAIN longevity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#44 IBM-MAIN longevity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#27 My Vintage Dream PC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#76 And, 40 years of IBM midrange
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#36 U.S. students behind in math, science, analysis says
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#57 watches
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#27 Favourite computer history books?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#69 Favourite computer history books?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#76 Other early NSFNET backbone
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#61 End of an era
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#77 End of an era
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#20 TELSTAR satellite experiment
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 02 Jan, 2012 Subject: The Myth of Work-Life Balance Blog: Greater IBMre:
Unboxed Extra: I.B.M. and America's Job Challenge
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/unboxed-extra-ibm-and-americas-job-challenge/
Beware corporate psychopaths -- they are still occupying positions of
power
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/comment/brian-basham-beware-corporate-psychopaths--they-are-still-occupying-positions-of-power-6282502.html
article from couple months ago
How Pursuit of Profits Kills Innovation and the U.S. Economy
http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2011/11/18/clayton-christensen-how-pursuit-of-profits-kills-innovation-and-the-us-economy
and
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/13/us/politics/after-mitt-romney-deal-company-showed-profits-and-then-layoffs.html ..
https://www.amazon.com/Buyout-America-Private-Equity-Credit/dp/1591842859/
and related recent disucssions:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#29 After a Romney Deal, Profits and Then Layoffs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#40 Civilization, doomed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#71 How Pursuit of Profits Kills Innovation and the U.S. Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#73 How Pursuit of Profits Kills Innovation and the U.S. Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#76 How Pursuit of Profits Kills Innovation and the U.S. Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#77 How Pursuit of Profits Kills Innovation and the U.S. Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#80 How Pursuit of Profits Kills Innovation and the U.S. Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#82 How Pursuit of Profits Kills Innovation and the U.S. Economy
and other past posts mentioning sociopaths &/or psychopaths:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#77 Madoff Whistleblower Book
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#15 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#24 AMERICA IS BROKEN, WHAT NOW?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#30 Have you ever wondered why some people seem to get rich easily
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 02 Jan, 2012 Subject: We are on the brink of a historic decision [referring to defence cuts]. Blog: Boyd Strategyre:
apparently they've worked hard to earn Congress is the most corrupt institution on the planet ... there is some line about a few trillion here & a few trillion there ... and soon it adds up to real money (not just MICC ... but everything where congress appropriates money and/or exercises some control).
now in real-time on CSPAN2 is the author of "After America, Get Ready For Armageddon" ... had line about the transition from Britannia to Americania after WW2 is going to seem mellow by comparison with what is coming next.
I've mentioned numerous times
1) I was asked in to NSCC before they merge with DTC:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Securities_Clearing_Corporation
to look at improving the integrity of trading transactions. After some work, I was told the work was being suspended because a side-effect of the improved integrity was greatly increased transparency and visibility (which appears to be antithetical with wallstreet culture).
2) in the congressional Madoff hearings the person that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff, was asked if new regulations were needed. He replied that much more important than new regulations was transparency and visibility.
note the DTCC wiki mentions illegal naked short selling ... another
reference about not having to worry about SEC doing anything:
http://nypost.com/2007/03/20/cramer-reveals-a-bit-too-much/
misc. past posts mentioning nscc/dtcc:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#63 Garbage in, garbage out trampled by Moore's law
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#75 Whistleblowing and reporting fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#48 WikiLeaks' Wall Street Bombshell
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#44 Programmer Charged with thieft (maybe off topic)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#26 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#39 Back to architecture: Analyzing NYSE data
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#11 Innovation and iconoclasm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#38 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#37 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#21 HOLLOW STATES and a CRISIS OF CAPITALISM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#24 AMERICA IS BROKEN, WHAT NOW?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#30 Have you ever wondered why some people seem to get rich easily
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#49 The men who crashed the world
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 02 Jan, 2012 Subject: We are on the brink of a historic decision [referring to defence cuts]. Blog: Boyd Strategyre:
CSPAN2 today had rebroadcast of two authors talking about recent books
... both pointing out that the major long-term downside to the federal
budget was Medicare & Medicaid ... especially Medicare part-d. Last
week there were articles about speaker of the house cutting off first
the audio feed and then both audio & video feed to CSPAN. Somebody
compared it to the process that went on for Medicare part-d ... as
being the ugliest and most non-transparent that they had seen in 25yrs
in congress. recent post on the subject:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#136
The comptroller general would also highlight in speeches Medicare part-d as being passed early in 2003 after the fiscal responsibility act was allowed to expire late 2002 ... making comments that nobody in congress was capable of middle school arithmetic (based on all the horrible things being done to the budget).
Also non-transparent is all the stuff that the Federal Reserve was
doing and eventually forced to divulge ... a couple recent posts with
news item URL references:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#63 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#74
There was recent graph (chart-of-the-day?) of large number of economic
measures where China is with respect to US, for some China has already
passed US ... others China will pass US shortly and for some, it may
be a decade before China passes US (although it mentioned that for
those things where China has already passed US, it happened much
quicker than earlier predictions). can't find it at the moment
... doing searches for the chart turns various:
http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-asias-growth-distortion-relative-to-world-1994-2010-2010-10?utm_source=Triggermail&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Clusterstock+Chart+Of+The+Day&utm_campaign=Clusterstock_COTD_102510 ..
http://www.investorplace.com/2011/04/imf-says-china-will-overtake-us-economy-by-2016/ ..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12885271 ..
http://money.cnn.com/2010/06/21/news/economy/china_us_manufacturing/index.htm ..
http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2010/08/06/china-world%E2%80%99s-largest-energy-consumer-surpasses-the-u-s/
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505125_162-28247319/china-to-overtake-us-as-world-economic-power---now-what/ ..
http://moneymorning.com/2011/04/28/imf-forecast-can-china-really-overtake-the-u-s-economy-by-2016/
finally found it (China passes US):
http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2010/12/save_date
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 02 Jan, 2012 Subject: Can any one tell about what is APL language Blog: Mainframe Expertsre:
pictures of 2741 "APL" typeball here
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#oldpicts
cambridge science center ported apl\360 to cp67/cms for cms\apl ... had to do some number of enhancements for the change over from 16kbyte swapped workspace to running up "large" paged virtual memory ... straight-forward cutover resulted in APL quickly touching every available byte of storage ... didn't made any difference in small swapped workspace but caused enormous amount of paging in virtual memory environment. then palo alto science center did additional changes for apl\cms on vm370/cms ... as well as the 370/145 apl microcode assist.
one of the largest APL operations in the 70s was the internal HONE system ... providing online worldwide sales&marketing ... most of the applications implemented in APL (started on cp67 cms\apl and then migrated to vm370 apl\cms). In the mid-70s, the US HONE datacenters were consolidated in a bldg. across the back parking lot from the palo alto science center (next door to the facebook bldg. just vacated ... although the former US HONE datacenter bldg has a different occupant now, in the mid-70s, the facebook didn't even exist).
Internal politics over the years applied great deal of political
pressure on HONE to get off of online virtual machine system and
migrate to the POK favorite son operating system (MVS) ... there were
quite a few attempts that failed misably. This is old email about POK
senior executive telling HONE that they/POK was going to stop
supporting vm370 on high-end machines ... and HONE would be able to
convert to MVS if they would just recode all the APL applications in
assembler:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#email790216
a couple days later, POK comes back and says the executive was talking
from the wrong flipcharts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#email790220
misc. past posts mentioning HONE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 03 Jan, 2012 Subject: Ruminating on Strategic Thinking II. : Social Conditions Blog: zenpundit.comre:
In his briefings, Boyd would stress that US had little skills at the entry to WW2, recognizing the fact, the country went with a philosophy of massive overwhelming resources -- along with logistics management of those resources and a rigid, top-down command&control structure (that assumed nobody at the bottom know what they were doing). The graft&corruption that went along with the massive resources likely contributed to Eisenhower's warning about MICC (claims that he simplified, dropping "congress" at the last minute). Boyd would comment in the 80s that the approach was having significant downside on American corporations as former WW2 officers climbed the corporate ladder, creating similar massive, rigid, top-down command&control infrastructures (along with little agility to adapt to changing conditions, US auto industry being one such poster child).
misc. past posts &/or references to Boyd
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 03 Jan, 2012 Subject: Anyone sceptically about Two Factor Authentication? Blog: Information SecurityThe multi-factor paradigm has been
1) something you know 2) something you have 3) something you are
misc. posts mentioning 3-factor authentication
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#3factor
multi-factor authentication has presumed to be more secure assuming that the different factors have independent (and non-trivial) vulnerabilities.
PINs (something you know) with magstripe payment cards have been considered more secure ... until skimming attacks ... where both PIN (shared-secret replay attack) and magstripe information (trivial cloning attack) where compromised end-point collects both pieces of information (common vulnerability)
A decade ago there was large pilot deployment of financial chip-card in the US .. which was vulnerable to the YES CARD exploit (all evidence of the pilot appeared to disappear not long after details of the YES CARD). In the YES CARD scenario ... rather trivial skimming (end-point compromise) enabled trivial creation of counterfeit card ... which was programmed to answer YES to the three (end-point) questions: 1) was valid pin entered, 2) should the transaction be performed offline, 3) is the transaction within the account credit limit.
At ATM Integrity Task Force meeting ... this was pointed out to be
enormously more vulnerable than existing magstripe ... the skimming at
compromised endpoint is effectively identical *AND* at least
countermeasure to counterfeit magstripe was deactivating the account
number (which doesn't work in the YES CARD card case with the YES
answer to question #2). old reference to YES CARD presentations at
Cartes2002 (has gone 404 but lives on at the wayback machine):
https://web.archive.org/web/20030417083810/http://www.smartcard.co.uk/resources/articles/cartes2002.html
While nominally the YES CARD is considered to be multi-factor (both
PIN and chip) ... the skimming exploit didn't require knowledge of the
PIN ... since counterfeit cards were programmed to always respond
"YES" ... regardless of the PIN entered. misc. past posts mentioning
YES CARD
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#yescard
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 03 Jan, 2012 Subject: Can any one tell about what is APL language Blog: Mainframe Expertsre:
US HONE started out with 360/67 cp67 with cms\apl at multiple
datacenters around the US, with HONE "clones" starting to appear at
various locations around the world. The consolidation in the mid-70s
(in bldg. next door to the recently vacated Facebook locations)
resulted in large number of two-processors configured in
"single-system-image" with load-balancing and fall-over between the
processors. The HONE operation was then replicated in Dallas and then
Boulder (with load-balancing and fall-over between the sites
... partially in response to earthquake disaster concerns in cal.). I
didn't have much involvement with HONE after the mid-80s, but there
was recent reference that US HONE eventually grew to 28 3081s. Also
recent reference to z/vm announcing clustering support in 2009 (30yrs
after HONE was running cluster/single-system-image):
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#43 From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#46 From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time
In the early 70s, when EMEA hdqtrs moved from NY to Paris ... I got tasked with helping set up a HONE clone for them in Paris. The major European HONE datacenter for branch office sales&marketing eventually was eventually consolidated in Uithoorn
The "original" personal computer also done at the Palo Alto Science
center ... about the same time they were working on apl\cms and 370/145
APL microcode assist ... supported APL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_5100
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PALM_processor
http://www.obsoletecomputermuseum.org/ibm5100/
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/pc/pc_2.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m54rKlErwA
One of the first major uses of cms\apl was Armonk corporate business planners. The Cambridge Science Center somewhat operated its 360/67 cp67/cms as service bureau ... both for internal users and non-employees from various univ. around boston/cambridge (students, staff, professors). Armonk corporate business planners started using CMS\APL early ... loading the most valuable of corporate assets on the cambridge machine (customer details) and implementing business models in APL.
This combination of extreme corporate sensitivity and non-employees/students sharing the same machine required some fairly stringent security measures.
Part of the issue regarding apl\360 and cms\apl ... was apl\360 service was usually restricted to 16kbytes workspace (some running 32kbytes) and all input/output was via user interface. CMS\APL not only opened up workspace size to virtual memory (requiring fixes to apl\360 storage management) but also added API for accessing system services (like doing file read/write) ... aka enabling larger real-world applications.
The cms\apl system services API caused some amount of problems with the APL purist community ... claiming violation of APL purity. Eventually this was rectified with the introduction of "shared variables" as a API paradigm for accessing system services.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:10:23 -0500well before this 30yr old email
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 17:45:49 -0500re:
and I couldn't resist (part of exchange with MVS support person
complaining about my dis'ing MVS & TSO):
Date: 10/27/82 16:55:11
From: wheeler
yep, you're right a CMS system with an average of 1sec. response for
edit commands would be a sick system. Course it isn't all TSO's fault.
The CMS under MVS project in POK is measuring their CMS performing as
badly as TSO. IBM wants to do the project anyway ... even if it
doesn't provide any better performance, at least it provides an
end-user, user-friendly system for people that have to use MVS.
... snip ... top of post, old email index
in line with tests showing that 3274 controller made it impossible to
achieve quarter-second user response. old reference to presentation
on the "CMS under MVS" project in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/96.html#4a
recent post discussing the quarter-second response issue
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#53
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#61
and some 3272/3277 comparisons with 3274/3278
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#19
from ibm jargon:
bad response - n. A delay in the response time to a trivial request of
a computer that is longer than two tenths of one second. In the 1970s,
IBM 3277 display terminals attached to quite small System/360 machines
could service up to 19 interruptions every second from a user I
measured it myself. Today, this kind of response time is considered
impossible or unachievable, even though work by Doherty, Thadhani, and
others has shown that human productivity and satisfaction are almost
linearly inversely proportional to computer response time. It is hoped
(but not expected) that the definition of Bad Response will drop below
one tenth of a second by 1990.
... snip ...
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: From Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"? Date: 04 Jan 2012 Blog: Old Geekre:
For 3274 controller, they moved a lot of electronics out of the head and back into the controller (to reduce terminal manufacturing costs). This resulted in a lot of shared contention in the controller and latency with lots of protocol chatter latency between the controller and the terminal ... driving the 3272/3277 hardware response from 0.086 seconds to .530 (and much worse) for 3274/3278 (3274 became much more data stream sensitive).
There were a lot of vm370/cms systems that were measuring quarter-second system response ... on 3272/3277 yielding an aggregate 1/3rd second response seen by the user. In that time frame, I had done some additional system enhancements and was getting .11 second system response (for comparable workloads that rest of corporation was seeing quarter second) ... which coupled with .086 3272/3277, yielded .196 second ... which was within the .2 seconds required by the Doherty/Thadhani studies.
misc. past posts showing the comparison between 3272/3277 and 3274/3278
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#19 3270 protocol
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#12 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#15 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#42 Ranking of non-IBM mainframe builders?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#19 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#53 The 50th Anniversary of the Legendary IBM 1401
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#72 Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#31 Happy DEC-10 Day
Later with IBM/PC and 327x emulation, cards that emulated 3277 ANR coax protocol would have three times the upload/download throughput compared to cards that emulated 3278 DFT coax protocol.
other past posts mentioning 3274/3278 coax protocol drove up latency
and overhead
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#33 3270 protocol
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#17 3270 protocol
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002k.html#2 IBM 327x terminals and controllers (was Re: Itanium2 power
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002k.html#6 IBM 327x terminals and controllers (was Re: Itanium2 power
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#24 Red Phosphor Terminal?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#0 were dumb terminals actually so dumb???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#10 IBM System/3 & 3277-1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#24 Processes' memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#64 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#21 Deja Cloud?
other past posts mentioning terminal emulation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: HONE Date: 04 Jan 2012 Blog: z/VMre:
HONE requirements helped drive deployment of many of my system enhancements. One of my hobbies was building and supporting significantly enhanced operating systems for internal datacenters ... a long time customer being HONE (which then propagated to the growing number of HONE clones around the world); first with cp67/cms and then with vm370/cms (first csc/vm and later sjr/vm).
During the Future System period ... past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
I continued to do 360/370 stuff ... even periodically ridiculing the
future system activities ... even when the internal politics were
killing off 370 effort. With the demise of future system, there was
mad rush to get stuff back into 370 product pipelines, which
contributed to decision to releasing various things that I had been
doing all along. A couple old emails regarding moving from cp67 to
vm370
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email731212 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750102 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430
One of the things was doing page mapped cms filesystem ... some old
posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#mmap
and extending the "named system" capability to objects in page mapped filesystem. VM370 started out with "named" system function that allowed privileged user to "checkpoint" virtual memory image ... in conjunction with "ipl-by-name" function allowed startup overhead to minimize for general users (restarting from the saved virtual memory image). One of the features supported by "ipl-by-name" restore function was specification of ranges of pages that are shared between users (reducing real storage requirements).
After HONE moved from cp67 to vm370 ... and before I had migrated my changes ... HONE relied on defining a virtual memory named system that including both the CMS kernel as well as the APL interpretor. Users would be setup to automatically "IPL CMSAPL" ... placing most of their users automatically in the APL environment. Along the way a very large APL application was developed (code named SEQUOIA) which provided a customized environment for sales&marketing applications (including things like session management and remembering previous history of user operations). A special hack was done to APL interpreter that allowed SEQUOIA to be merged into the saved/shared virtual memory imaged (further reducing total real storage requirements).
Heavy use on HONE were the "configurators" that worked out the details for what into actual order. Part of some of the configurators was performance simulation to determine selection of some of the features in the order (where represented large part of HONE processor load). Along the way, a few of the heaviest simulation was recoded in Fortran. The problem became out to drop out of CMSAPL "ipl-by-name", into plain CMS "ipl-by-name", execute a fortran application, return to CMSAPL "ipl-by-name", automatically retrieving fortran results ... all completely transparent to the end-user. The page-mapped enhancements provided the mechanism and accelerated the early uptake by HONE of my CSC/VM (see above email references) changes.
Basic page mapped changes were transparent to CMS users and
applications, changing the CMS low level file i/o routines to remap
requests into page mapped operations. For the shared page changes, I
enhanced the CMS executable creation (GENMOD) to allow additional
specification of ranges of pages to be shared ... and CMS executable
load (LOADMOD) to pass those shared page ranges in the page map
API. Old email describing GENMOD/LOADMOD enhancements
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#email791107 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#email791107b
in this recent post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#112 SPF in 1978
old email somebody wanting to make changes to APL to support shared
image loading of any workspace loaded
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#email821104 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#email821105
in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#72 Collection of APL documents
Note that for vm370 release 3, a very small subset of the cp sharing capability (w/o any of the page mapped filesystem changes) were released as "DCSS" (basically allowed "ipl-by-name" function to be invoked w/o invoking the rest of processing associated with "IPL" simulation) along with bunch of changes I had made to CMS routines to operate in R/O shared environment.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 16:23:59 -0500"Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
aka got trivial system response to .11 seconds along with 3272/3277 hardware delay (.086) ... comes out to .196 seconds seen by the user ... within the .2 seconds threshold found in human factor studies by Doherty/Thadhani (impossible with 3274 controller where absolute best case was 1/3rd seconds).
ideal was response where the user couldn't differentiate from instaneous ... if couldn't achieve that ... then consistent was next goal. the issue was human characteristic that attention would start to wonder when response exceeded expected ... and when response finally came in ... for human to re-focus their attention was approx. the same elapsed time as the elapsed time that the attention had wondered ... aka if response was expected to be one second and it was ten seconds instead, attention would wonder for 9seconds and then take another 9 seconds for attention to be refocused. I've always assumed that response larger than some small number of seconds would also result in attention wondering anyway ... even if it was consistent.
for quite some time, I've fired off large number of URLs in different
tabs and then switched between tabs ... to mask browser/web loading
latency (having large number of pre-loaded tabs that I can switch)
... aka allow loading be asynchronous, overlapped with other activity
(trying to minimize synchronized URL click/load behavior) misc. past
references:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#50 Mozilla v Firefox
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#8 big endian vs. little endian, why?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#41 Moz 1.8 performance dramatically improved
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005o.html#13 RFC 2616 change proposal to increase speed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#51 Intel abandons USEnet news
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#30 tab browsing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#8 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#32 Tap and faucet and spellcheckers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#35 Tap and faucet and spellcheckers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#10 What would be a future of technical blogs ? I am wondering what kind of services readers except to get from a technical blog in next 10 years
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#85 Which of the latest browsers do you prefer and why?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#67 Intel: an expensive many-core future is ahead of us
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#29 How were you using the internet 10 years ago and how does that differ from how you use it today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#54 Windowed Interfaces 1981-2009
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#66 What happened to computer architecture (and comp.arch?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#72 Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#36 SSL certificates and keys
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#48 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#22 OT: PC clock failure--CMOS battery?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#29 DG Fountainhead vs IBM Future Systems
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: From "Who originated the phrase user-friendly" thread Date: 04 Jan 2012 Blog: Old Geekre:
As upthread ... CMS was considered much more "user-friendly" than TSO
... but not normally "idiot-proof". The virtual machine based online
service bureaus (sort ot the 60s & 70s cloud computing) modified CMS
for what they called "padded cell" operation (might be taken as
synonym for idiot-proof). misc. old past mentioning padded cell
operation:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#75 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#76 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#0 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#3 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#4 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#45 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003m.html#26 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005g.html#27 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#65 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#46 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#26 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#48 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#47 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#14 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#2 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#14 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#25 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#32 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#35
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: What's your favorite quote on "accountability"? Date: 04 Jan 2012 Blog: Greater IBMConfidence Men: Wall Street, Washington, and the Education of a President
has Obama's "a-team" instrumental during the campaign with getting him elected ... and then possibly because the "a-team" were going to hold accountable the people responsible for the financial bubble ... he appoints the "b-team" ... many members who were instrumental in creating the financial bubble (and not likely to hold accountable those that were responsible).
wharton business school article ... behind some sort of registration
wall now, but still available at wayback machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20080606084328/http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article.cfm?articleid=1933
Estimates that possibly 1000 were responsible for 80% of the financial crisis and that it would go a long way to correcting the situation (and preventing it from continuing) if the gov. could figure out some way to eliminate them.
past posts mentioning Confidence Men:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#67 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#70 No One Telling Who Took $586B in Fed Swaps
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#73 A question for the readership
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#74 Derivatives and free trade
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#79 Financial Crimes Bedevil Prosecutors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#83 Heading For World War III | Gerald Celente Trends Blog
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#88 Fed Report Finds Speculators Played Big Role in Housing Collapse
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#91 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#109 Zombie Banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#110 Loan Originators
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#111 Matt Taibbi with Xmas Message from the Rich
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#132 Yes Virginia, Electronic Signatures Are Legal
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: SEC v. Citigroup, How to Avoid (Greater) Disaster Date: 04 Jan 2012 Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and SecurityI Cannot Tell A Lie: I Neither Admit Nor Deny I Chopped Down The Cherry Tree
SEC appears to not have had a good decade ... including
in congressional Madoff hearings, they had a person testify that had
tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about
Madoff (when Madoff turned himself in, SEC was finally forced to do
something). Other SEC/Madoff includes
http://news.hereisthecity.com/news/business_news/8573.cntns
In the wake of Enron & Worldcom, congress passed Sarbanes-Oxley to
prevent similar future problems ... but required SEC to do
something. Possibly because even GAO didn't believe SEC was doing
anything ... GAO started doing reports showing uptic in problem public
company financial filings (even after Sarbanes-Oxley):
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-06-1079sp
then there is:
S.E.C. Files Were Illegally Destroyed, Lawyer Says
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/18/business/sec-illegally-destroyed-documents-whistle-blower-alleges.html
SEC Accused of Destroying Files
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904070604576514840171054216.html
A different story emerges on SEC record purges
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/a-different-story-emerges-on-sec-record-purges/2011/09/02/gIQALBh44J_story.html
SEC misled Archives on destroying records, inspector general finds
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/sec-misled-archives-on-destroying-records-inspector-general-finds/2011/11/01/gIQAx2tKdM_story.html
another reference from last decade about SEC not doing anything:
http://nypost.com/2007/03/20/cramer-reveals-a-bit-too-much/
other recent posts about SEC & Citi
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#18 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#23 Security 2012: Blood in the Water
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#30 21st Century Management approach?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#79 Financial Crimes Bedevil Prosecutors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#87 Wall St likes your amnesia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#92 Bank Failures Cost $88 Billion
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: From Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"? Date: 05 Jan 2012 Blog: Old Geekre:
Some number of organizations were convinced to order 360/67 to run
tss/360 ... when tss/360 floundered some number of organizations did
their own virtual memory systems ... including the cambridge science
center doing virtual machine cp/67 (had earlier done virtual memory
hardware modifications to 360/40 and implemented cp/40 ... when 360/67
became available, cp/40 morphed into cp/67 ... later cp/67 morphs into
vm/370).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
However, Univ. of Michigan did MTS (michigan terminal system) for 360/67 and Stanford did Wylbur/Orvyl/Milten for 360/67. Michigan migrates MTS to 370 virtual memory. Wylbur was migrated to os/360 (and eventually MVS).
a few posts from last year mentioning MTS and/or Wylbur/Orvyl/Milten
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#6 IBM 360 display and Stanford Big Iron
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#73 Speed of Old Hard Disks - adcons
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#86 Utility of find single set bit instruction?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#41 Colossal Cave Adventure in PL/I
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#44 Colossal Cave Adventure in PL/I
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#81 Multiple Virtual Memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#8 Multiple Virtual Memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#56 Drum Memory with small Core Memory?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#63 The IBM Selective Sequence Electronic Calculator
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#73 Wylbur, Orvyl, Milton, CRBE/CRJE were all used (and sometimes liked) in the past
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#75 Wylbur, Orvyl, Milton, CRBE/CRJE were all used (and sometimes liked) in the past
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#78 Wylbur, Orvyl, Milton, CRBE/CRJE were all used (and sometimes liked) in the past
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#49 My first mainframe experience
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#63 Before the PC: IBM invents virtualisation (Cambridge skunkworks)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#19 Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 5 Jan 2012 07:35:20 -0800Glenn.Schneck@SUNTRUST.COM (Schneck.Glenn) writes:
Cloud Use Rises, Mainframe Usage Declines as Data Centers Grow and
Green, According to AFCOM Survey
http://eon.businesswire.com/news/eon/20110330005393/en/cloud/disaster-recovery/data-center
from above:
Demise of the Mainframe: While historically one of the most critical
elements of any data center, today, mainframe usage continues to
shrink. While AFCOM predicts mainframes will exist forever in some
capacity, their prevalence has been severely diminished.
... snip ...
IBM Sees A Big Boost As It Turns 100
http://www.npr.org/2011/12/28/143834727/ibm-sees-a-big-boost-as-it-turns-100
from above:
The company sold its PC business 6 years ago, and now, more than 83
percent of its business is services and software. Sign a contract with
Big Blue and you get consulting, cloud computing, servers, analytics,
even financing.
... snip ...
compared to mid-80s when top management was predicting mainframe sale growth would double corporate revenue (from $60B to $120B, approx $252B today) and instituted a massive building program to double mainframe manufacturing ... this was at a point when there were already indicators of mainframe business heading in the opposite direction ... and the company goes into the red a few years later.
Note that in above, that remaining 17% revenue would include everything else besides software&services (aka all kinds of hardware & platforms)
note that in addition to failures migrating off of mainframe ... there has also been some number of monumental re-engineering failures ... involving staying on the mainframe (any major change at all ... even when not changing the mainframe)
as I've periodically pontificated in the past ... there are numerous mega-datacenters around the world ... any one of the mega-datacenters possibly having more aggregate processing power than current total installed traditional mainframes.
estimated 10,000 mainframes at 4,000 to 5,000 customers around globe
http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2010-08-10/news/27620495_1_mainframe-ibm-big-challenge
zEnterprise 196 can execute 50BIPs/second
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2010/09/01/ibm-unveils-worlds-fastest-microprocessor/
Intel Core i7 at 177,730 MIPs/sec
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second
or almost 180BIPs/sec ... which makes i7 equivalent to more than three z196??
mega-datacenters have been quoted at half-million to over million processors.
posts from linkedin thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#10 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#11 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#13 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#27 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#75 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#90 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#32 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#35 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#36 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#38 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#39 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#40 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#44 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#51 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#52 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#54 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#55 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#57 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#64 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#75 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#76 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#77 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#78 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#81 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#91 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#94 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#95 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#98 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#100 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#103 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#140 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 05 Jan, 2012 Subject: Zombie Banks Blog: Google+re:
Zombie Banks: How Broken Banks and Debtor Nations Are Crippling the
Global Economy
https://www.amazon.com/Zombie-Banks-Crippling-Bloomberg-ebook/dp/B0060IWMNY
earlier reference
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102794881687002297268/posts/akiM9ihh2iE
and:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#109 Zombie Banks
Has intro Sheila Bair saying the gov. chose the "Japan" zombie bank solution. "Confidence Men" had the president's "A-team" (instrumental in getting him elected), pushing for accountability and in the "Japan-or-Sweden" choice opt'ing for the Swedish solution. Then the president appoints the B-team that takes the "Japan" solution.
The book does mention that among all the other behind the scenes
dealing (including federal reserve doing trillions in loans),
Freddie&Fannie were used to clear over $6.8T in toxic assets. Earlier
accounts had relatively little toxic assets on Freddie&Fannie books
because the kinds of loans going into triple-A rated toxic CDOs didn't
meet GSE standards. Reference to Blackrock managing $5.5T in GSE
toxic assets
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#88 Fed Report Finds Speculators Played Big Role in Housing Collapse
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#92 Bank Failures Cost $88 Billion
Book is somewhat disingenuous about wallstreet players knowing what
was going on. Early drafts of Basel2 had a new qualitative section
that basically required top executives and the board to demonstrate
they understand the end-to-end business ... sort of a ISO9000 for
banking ... which was gutted during the review process. Past
references claim $27T in triple-A rated toxic CDO transactions were
done during the bubble (reaping enormous fees and commissions for
wallstreet)
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-27/evil-wall-street-exports-boomed-with-fools-born-to-buy-debt
other past posts refs to Confidence Men:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#67 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#70 No One Telling Who Took $586B in Fed Swaps
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#73 A question for the readership
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#74 Derivatives and free trade
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#79 Financial Crimes Bedevil Prosecutors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#83 Heading For World War III | Gerald Celente Trends Blog
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#91 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#110 Loan Originators
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#111 Matt Taibbi with Xmas Message from the Rich
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#132 Yes Virginia, Electronic Signatures Are Legal
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#17 What's your favorite quote on "accountability"?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 17:15:28 -0500Bernard Peek <bap@shrdlu.com> writes:
there was article in the early 80s (washington post?) calling for 100% unearned profit tax on the US auto industry. In theory, congress imposed foreign quotas to reduce competition to give the industry profit that they would use to completely remake themselves. Instead they pocketed the money and continued business as usual.
circa 1990, the industry had C4 taskforce to look at completely remake themselves (finally?). They were planning on heavily leveraging technology and so invited technology vendors to send participants. They could articulate all the problems (including foreign competition was significantly more agile and adaptable) and what needed to be done. However, as seen, they still weren't able to follow through.
misc past posts mentioning call for 100% unearned profit tax
and/or C4 taskforce:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#41 Reason Japanese cars are assembled in the US (was Re: American bigotry)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#52 The SOB that helped IT jobs move to India is dead!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004h.html#22 Vintage computers are better than modern crap !
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005s.html#2 Internet today -- what's left for hobbiests
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#23 auto industry
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#14 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#17 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#20 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#49 The Pankian Metaphor (redux)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#33 IBM Unionization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#72 IBM Unionization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#88 IBM Unionization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#11 IBM Unionization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#24 IBM Unionization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#28 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#39 competitiveness
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#84 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#77 Tell me why the taxpayer should be saving GM and Chrysler (and Ford) managers & shareholders at this stage of the game?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#22 Is Pride going to decimate the auto Industry?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#63 Have you told your Congressman how to VOTE on the auto bailout?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#18 What next? from where would the Banks be hit?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#20 Five great technological revolutions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#57 Garbage in, garbage out trampled by Moore's law
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#20 What is the real basis for business mess we are facing today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#2 China-US Insights on the Future of the Auto Industry
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#3 IBM interprets Lean development's Kaizen with new MCIF product
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#31 Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#14 360 programs on a z/10
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#47 z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#55 Handling multicore CPUs; what the competition is thinking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#70 Handling multicore CPUs; what the competition is thinking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#8 Far and near pointers on the 80286 and later
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#75 Favourite computer history books?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#0 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#22 60 Minutes News Report:Unemployed for over 99 weeks!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#59 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#23 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#21 End of an era
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#90 PDCA vs. OODA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#2 Car models and corporate culture: It's all lies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#35 Having left IBM, seem to be reminded that IBM is not the same IBM I had joined
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#34 Boyd's Reading List Revisited
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#35 The Next Convergence: The Future of Economic Growth in a Multispeed World
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#73 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#65 Soups
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#81 A Close Look at the Perry Tax Plan
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#86 PDCA vs. OODA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#52 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 5 Jan 2012 16:56:14 -0800re:
other measures TPC-C:
http://www.tpc.org/tpcc/results/tpcc_perf_results.asp
ibm has six in the top ten ... power ... but also @#8
 using (older) quad-core Xeon (but they are also the lowest price/tpmC)
TPC benchmarks:
http://www.tpc.org/information/benchmarks.asp
early history
https://www.tpc.org/information/who/gray5.asp
past posts mentioning original sql/relational implementations in
bldg. 28 ... some of the time with Jim:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr
guess as to z196 comparison (from older z10 & nehalem comparison):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurboHercules#Performance
from above:
"...we can run a reasonably sized load (800MIPS with our standard
package). If the machine in question is larger than that, we can scale
to 1600MIPS with our quad Nehalem based package and we have been
promised an 8 way Nehalem EX based machine early next year that should
take us to the 3200MIPS mark. Anything bigger than that is replicated by
a collection of systems."
... snip ...
and:
Current high end System z10 systems are capable of performance up to
around 28,000 MIPS (for aggregate performance of many CPUs in a fully
configured 64-CPU multiprocessor server), so Hercules is outperformed by
almost one order of magnitude. However, Hercules on a PC costs several
orders of magnitude less[citation needed] than those high end System z
systems.
... snip ...
z196 has been claimed to be 50% faster than Z10 or 42BIPS ...
however reference claims z196 peak at 50BIPS (possibly larger number of
CPUs?) ... aka
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2010/09/01/ibm-unveils-worlds-fastest-microprocessor/
TurboHercules runs possibly 10 native intel instructions for every emulated mainframe instruction ... and emulated 3.2BIPS mainframe with 8way Nehalem EX ... then is 32BIPS native (compared to z196 peak 50BIPS).
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 6 Jan 2012 05:53:05 -0800from:
numerous mega-datacenters around the world, any one possibly with more BIPS than total aggregate mainframe installed BIPS
and from:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#23 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurboHercules#Performance
any mega-datacenter running TurboHercules on every processor may have more simulated mainframe BIPS than total aggregate mainframe installed BIPS ... and simulated mainframe BIPS cost at possibly 1/1000 of z196 BIPS
and from this morning:
Fusion-io demos billion IOPS server config
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/06/fusion_billion_iops/
from above:
Fusion has a track record in such demonstrations, starting with the 1
million IOPS Quicksilver demo with IBM's SVC in 2009. It needed a rack
of systems. Two years later it has gone a thousand times faster with far
fewer but more powerful servers.
... snip ...
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 06 Jan, 2012 Subject: You may ask yourself, well, how did I get here? Blog: Chicago Boyzre:
above references comments I made here
http://zenpundit.com/?p=5069
archived
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#8 Ruminating on Strategic Thinking II. : Social Conditions
I got blamed for online computer conferencing on the internal network
in the late 70s & early 80s where there were similar discussion about
large bureaucracies that weren't agile and adaptable with rigid
top-down command&control structure (internal network was larger than
the arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until sometime late
'85 or early '86). misc. past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
I also sponsored Boyd's briefings at IBM in the 80s. misc. past
posts &/or refs to Boyd &/or OODA-loop
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html
I've more recently done some work at the National Archives on my
wife's father status reports from WW2 ... he was command of 1154th
engineering combat group in ETO ... which seemed exception with
extremely fluid organization with different battalions constantly
being added and removed from the group. recent ref:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#52 An elusive command philosophy and a different command culture
With regard to the auto industry, there was a article (Washington Post?) in the early 80s calling for 100% unearned profit tax on the industry. The story was that congress had imposed quotas on imports to reduce competition and provide profits to the industry for use to completely remake themselves ... instead they pocketed the money and continued business as usual.
In the 1990 time-frame the industry had C4 task force to (finally?)
look at completely remaking themselves. They were planning on heavily
leveraging technology as part of the effort and so several technology
vendors were invited to send participants. The industry could
articulate all the issues (including foreign competition was
significantly more agile and adaptable) and what needed to be done
... but they still couldn't remake themselves. other recent post
mentioning C4 task force
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#22 Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"?
Neither "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man"
https://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Economic-Hit-Man-ebook/dp/B001AFF266
nor "Westmoreland: The General Who Lost Vietnam"
https://www.amazon.com/Westmoreland-General-Lost-Vietnam-ebook/dp/B005OCG11Q
were particular kind to McNamara
Late last century, before GLBA and repeal of Glass-Steagall had kicked in ... I reviewed an industry publication that gave numbers for the avg of the largest regional banks compared to the largest national banks ... possibly several thousand items (no analysis just raw measures) ... but the regional numbers were slightly better than the national numbers. This was before too-big-to-fail ... one explanation was national banks were already too big to be optimally operated.
Possibly only justification was size of compensation to top executives .. there was report in last couple years claiming ratio of top executive compensation to employee compensation exploded to 400:1 after having been 20:1 for a long time (and 10:1 for most of the rest of the world).
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 06 Jan, 2012 Subject: What's your favorite quote on "accountability"? Blog: Greater IBMre:
the traditional corporate line has been more like all of the responsibility and none of the authority (and accountability was only used to punish the innocent and promote the guilty).
I use to sponsor Boyd's briefings at IBM ... part of the briefing mentioned that entry to WW2 the US military leveraging the few skilled resources deployed massive numbers with a rigid, top-down, command and control structure. In the 80s, he commented that former WW2 officers were starting to pollute corporate america (as they climbed the corporate ladder) with similar rigid, top-down, command&control structure ... assuming only the very few at the top knew what they were doing and everybody else had no skills or experience.
Within the past couple years there was report that the ratio of top executive compensation to worker compensation had exploded to 400:1 after having been 20:1 for a long period (and 10:1 in most of the rest of the world). The claims about only the few at the very top know what they are doing and the rest of the corporation don't ... has been used to explain the 400:1 explosion
In the wake of Enron & Worldcom, congress passed Sarbanes-Oxley to
prevent similar future problems (increased audit requirements and
prison terms for executives) ... but required SEC to do
something. Possibly because even GAO didn't believe SEC was doing
anything ... GAO started doing reports showing uptic in problem public
company financial filings (even after Sarbanes-Oxley):
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-06-1079sp
Supposedly the increase in public company fraudulent financial filings were to inflate executive compensation ... and even if filings were later corrected, compensation wasn't adjusted.
Lack of SEC activity also shows up in Madoff congressional hearings by the person that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff (Madoff finally turning himself in forcing SEC to do something).
Then there is:
S.E.C. Files Were Illegally Destroyed, Lawyer Says
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/18/business/sec-illegally-destroyed-documents-whistle-blower-alleges.html
SEC Accused of Destroying Files
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904070604576514840171054216.html
A different story emerges on SEC record purges
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/a-different-story-emerges-on-sec-record-purges/2011/09/02/gIQALBh44J_story.html
SEC misled Archives on destroying records, inspector general finds
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/sec-misled-archives-on-destroying-records-inspector-general-finds/2011/11/01/gIQAx2tKdM_story.html
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 06 Jan, 2012 Subject: From "Who originated the phrase user-friendly" thread Blog: Historic IBM Computingre:
inside ibm, gobs of "IC" (information center) vm/4341s in the early/mid 80s ... not just US, but all over the world... a few listed here ... previously some number of branch office people were dropping out of APL and starting to use CMS for generalized online activity, email, etc
BETVMIC1 4341/VM Bethesda, Maryland BOSVMIC1 4341/VM Boston, Mass. BOSVMIC1 4341/VM Newton, Ma. CINVMIC1 4341/VM Cincinnati, Ohio DETVMIC2 4341/VM Detroit, Michigan MSPVMIC2 4341/VM Minneapolis, Mn. MSPVMIC3 4341/VM Minneapolis, Minn. NYCVMIC1 4341/VM New York, N.Y. RALVMIC1 4341/VM Raleigh, N.C. SFOVMIC2 4341/VM San Francisco, Ca. SLOVMIC1 4341/VM St. Louis, Mo. WAYVMIC1 4341/VM Wayne, Pa.a little recent "HONE" discussion over in OLD GEEK group
some large customers were buying huge numbers of 43xx and putting them out in departmental storage rooms and conference rooms ... no longer required all the datacenter infrastructure (at large IBM corporate locations it was contributing to scarcity of comference rooms).
MVS had almost no play in this segment ... partially because MVS required significantly more support skills and resources. Another problem was low & mid-range disks for these environments were all FBA .... there was CKD 3380 but it was for datacenter operation ... and MVS had no FBA disk support (actually MVS still has no FBA disk support even though no real CKD disks have been manufactured for decades ... it is all just CKD simulation on real FBA). Some attempt was made on MVS behalf to address this market with 3375 ... which was CKD simulation on 3370 FBA.
All of these vm/cms online services eventually migrates to personal PCs although some of the paradigm is starting to shift back with cloud services.
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 08 Jan, 2012 Subject: The feedback economy Blog: IBMersThe feedback economy
from above:
We're moving beyond an information economy. The efficiencies and
optimizations that come from constant and iterative feedback will soon
become the norm for businesses and governments.
... snip ...
I had sponsored Boyd's briefings at IBM in the 80s ... ht to Leland
for the reference ... also another
blog reference:
http://michaelscomments.wordpress.com/2012/01/06/has-the-OODA-loop-gone-mainstream-and-digital/
with regard to internal sharing of info at ibm
I was blamed for online computer conferencing on the internal network
in the late 70s and early 80s. The internal network was larger than
the arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until sometime late
'85 or early '86 ... some past posts mentioning internal network
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
I started out using semi-automated mailing list process ... plus an
internally developed program called Datastag (allowing others to
"pull" information). I would also have a procedure for pushing
information to specific systems where the information was put up for
read/only on specific systems. One such body of information was
VMSHARE ... online computer conferencing that Tymshare made available
for free to SHARE in aug1976 ... archive here
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare
sometimes(?) "404" ... but also at wayback machine
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/
share website here
http://www.share.org/
The biggest problem i had was lots of discussions with corporate
lawyers about whether making the vmshare information available on
internal systems would contaminate employees. I had managed to get
tymshare to send me regular copy of all the vmshare files ... i would
then determine which were new/changed and then redistributed just
new/changed files (these were R/O for internal employees, for reading
only). some old vmshare related email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vmshare
One of my hobbies was building and distributing highly enhanced
operating systems for internal datacenters and one of the long-time
customers were the online HONE system dating back to cp67 days with
360/67s. It had grown into world-wide sales&marketing support with
clones of the US HONE system sprouting up all over the world. Recent
discussion of the internal online HONE system in the z/vm group
http://lnkd.in/VtbbdE
some old email mentioning HONE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#hone
trivia ... in the mid-70s, the US HONE datacenters were consolidated in a bldg. in Silicon valley. It has a different occupant now but the bldg. is located next door to the recently vacated Facebook bldg. at 1601 (1601 was built much later).
The folklore is that when the executive committee (ceo, chairman, etc)
was told about online computer conferencing (and the internal
network), five-of-six wanted to fire me. The subsequent taskforces
investigating the phenomena resulting in officially sanctioned
discussion groups operated by a new tool called TOOLSRUN
... supporting a variety of modes including automated mailing list
(ala the later LISTSERV) and clone/slave maintenance ala usenet
newsgroups. Recent post on FACEBOOK page of the person that created
TOOLSRUN
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#139
Also, somewhat as a result of the online computer conferencing ... a
researcher was paid to sit in the back of my office for 9months taking
notes on how I communicate ... they also went with me to meetings and
got logs of all my instant messages and copies of all my incoming and
outgoing email. Besides a research report, it was also used for
Stanford PHD thesis (joint with language and computer ai, winograd was
adviser on computer ai side) as well as some number of papers and
books ... misc. past posts mentioning computer mediated conversation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#cmc
I took early out in '92 ... so am not aware of what is done now.
for other drift ... some past posts mentioning Boyd
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html#boyd1
and some URLs from around the web that mention Boyd and/or OODA-loops
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html#boyd2
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 08 Jan, 2012 Subject: Mitt Romney avoids U.S tax by using Offshore bank accounts Blog: FacebookMitt Romney avoids U.S tax by using Offshore bank accounts
from above:
Also the FBI is investigating Bain Capital About two weeks ago, the
FBI evoked FOIA exemption 7(a) and denied access to all Bain Capital
records on the grounds that "there is a pending or prospective law
enforcement proceeding relevant to these responsive records; and that
release of the information contained in these responsive records could
reasonably be expected to interfere with the enforcement proceedings."
... snip ...
comment about bain capital from nov:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/13/us/politics/after-mitt-romney-deal-company-showed-profits-and-then-layoffs.html?_r=1
book on the industry
https://www.amazon.com/Buyout-America-Private-Equity-Credit/dp/1591842859/
2009 irs going after 52,000 (off-shore)
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2009/04/03/first-american-client-charged-in-ubs-tax-shelter-probe/
U.S. starts new amnesty for offshore tax cheats
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/08/us-usa-taxes-amnesty-idUSTRE7174K920110208
and IRS Watchdog Critiques Offshore Tax Amnesty
http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2011/12/04/irs-watchdog-critiques-offshore-tax-amnesty/
two yrs later congress cutting enforcement funding:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/28/irs-budget-cuts-deficit_n_850243.html
item on $330B in uncollected taxes (but funds cut for collecting)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/11/irs-funding-cuts-congress_n_847741.html
and by last summer listed as $400B
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2015503714_taxgap04.html
then seems to mostly evaporate
http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2011/12/03/no-jail-in-ubs-tax-evasion-case/
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 09 Jan, 2012 Subject: Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present Blog: Google+re:
Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970
to the Present
https://www.amazon.com/Age-Greed-Triumph-Finance-ebook/dp/B004DEPF6I/
"Age of Greed" talks about major wallstreet players strongly pushing for decades that the gov. should not limit their risky behavior, but were the first in line for bailout every time things collapsed (not being held responsible or accountable for their behavior).
"Zombie Banks"
https://www.amazon.com/Zombie-Banks-Crippling-Bloomberg-ebook/dp/B0060IWMNY
make references to major wallstreet players claiming not knowing what
was going on during the financial mess, bubble, meltdown.
"Going Rogue: Share Traders More Reckless Than Psychopaths, Study Shows"
http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/going-rogue-share-traders-more-reckless-than-psychopaths-study-shows-a-788462.html
also
http://www.businessinsider.com/study-stock-traders-are-worse-than-psychopaths-2011-9
Earlier reports from 2008 claimed large percentage of wallstreet players were sociopaths, showing no remorse for their activities. Numerous other reports make reference to wallstreet needing enormous amounts of adult supervision. Very much like "Judge Judy" when she asks when can you tell a teenager is lying.
"Age of Greed" also corresponds to:
http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2011/10/journal-why-the-us-middle-class-is-broken.html
past references to "Middle Class is Broken", "Zombie Banks", psychopaths,
and/or sociopaths:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#77 Madoff Whistleblower Book
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#15 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#24 AMERICA IS BROKEN, WHAT NOW?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#30 Have you ever wondered why some people seem to get rich easily
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#37 Revealed -- the capitalist network that runs the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#41 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#39 Civilization, doomed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#68 Building a Better America-One Wealth Quintile at a Time
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#73 How Pursuit of Profits Kills Innovation and the U.S. Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#80 How Pursuit of Profits Kills Innovation and the U.S. Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#83 The banking sector grew seven times faster than gross domestic product since the beginning of the financial crisis and Too-Big-to-Fail: Banks Get Bigger After Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#33 21st Century Management approach?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#109 Zombie Banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#111 Matt Taibbi with Xmas Message from the Rich
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#132 Yes Virginia, Electronic Signatures Are Legal
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#138 Thinking, Fast & Slow
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#143 Wall Street's Big Lie
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#144 Fingerspitzengefuhl
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#1 The war on terabytes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#3 We are on the brink of a historic decision [referring to defence cuts]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#4 The Myth of Work-Life Balance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#17 What's your favorite quote on "accountability"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#21 Zombie Banks
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:52:10 -0500Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> writes:
circa 1990, the industry had C4 taskforce to look at completely remaking themselves (finally?). Part of the concept was heavily leveraging technology and so technology vendors were invited to send participants. They could clearly articulate the issues (including competition being much more agile and adaptable) ... but still couldn't change. roll forward three decades later ... in addition to the enormous excess revenue they pocketed each year over the decades ... they need additional billions in gov. bailouts (as if they didn't know what was going on over those three decades).
same post upthread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#22 Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"?
recent post over in google+ about such behavior
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102794881687002297268/posts/7GsCCvU7Pkb
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#30 Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present
there have been past references that during those three decades the
focus of the US auto industry had changed to making automobiles as a
excuse for auto loans (they treated automobiles as pretense for their
"real" business; majority of revenue coming in from the financial arms)
... a few past posts mentioning auto loans:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#77 Tell me why the taxpayer should be saving GM and Chrysler (and Ford) managers & shareholders at this stage of the game?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#10 realtors (and GM, too!)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#9 Blind-sided, again. Why?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#20 Five great technological revolutions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#57 Garbage in, garbage out trampled by Moore's law
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#86 PDCA vs. OODA
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 09 Jan, 2012 Subject: Wall Street Bonuses May Reach Lowest Level in 3 Years Blog: FacebookWall Street Bonuses May Reach Lowest Level in 3 Years
NY state did report that wallstreet bonuses spiked over 400% during the bubble (on $27T in triple-A rated toxic CDO transactions) and since then there are lots of effort to prevent bonuses from returning to pre-bubble levels (unlike housing prices).
wallstreet bonus spike during bubble:
The Fed's Too Easy on Wall Street
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-04-16/goldman-sachs-cdos-a-concern-for-crisis-panel-angelides-says.html
$27T transaction thru wallstreet during bubble:
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-27/evil-wall-street-exports-boomed-with-fools-born-to-buy-debt
misc. past posts mentioning bonus spike &/or $27T during bubble:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#76 Bush - place in history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#52 IBM CEO's remuneration last year ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#66 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#42 The Return of Ada
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#4 A Merit based system of reward -Does anybody (or any executive) really want to be judged on merit?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#52 Technology and the current crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#53 Your thoughts on the following comprehensive bailout plan please
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#56 VMware Chief Says the OS Is History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#69 Another quiet week in finance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#82 Fraud in financial institution
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#18 Once the dust settles, do you think Milton Friedman's economic theories will be laid to rest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#26 SOX (Sarbanes-Oxley Act), is this really followed and worthful considering current Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#28 Does anyone get the idea that those responsible for containing this finanical crisis are doing too much?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#31 The human plague
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#32 How much is 700 Billion Dollars??
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#8 Global Melt Down
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#61 The vanishing CEO bonus
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#64 Is This a Different Kind of Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#32 How Should The Government Spend The $700 Billion?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#33 Garbage in, garbage out trampled by Moore's law
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#35 Is American capitalism and greed to blame for our financial troubles in the US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#41 Executive pay: time for a trim?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#73 CROOKS and NANNIES: what would Boyd do?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#80 Are reckless risks a natural fallout of "excessive" executive compensation ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#25 The recently revealed excesses of John Thain, the former CEO of Merrill Lynch, while the firm was receiving $25 Billion in TARP funds makes me sick
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#41 The subject is authoritarian tendencies in corporate management, and how they are related to political culture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#45 The recently revealed excesses of John Thain, the former CEO of Merrill Lynch, while the firm was receiving $25 Billion in TARP funds makes me sick
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#49 US disaster, debts and bad financial management
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#57 Credit & Risk Management ... go Simple ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#59 As bonuses...why breed greed, when others are in dire need?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#0 PNC Financial to pay CEO $3 million stock bonus
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#3 Congress Set to Approve Pay Cap of $500,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#17 Why is everyone talking about AIG bonuses of millions and keeping their mouth shut on billions sent to foreign banks?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#36 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#31 OODA-loop obfuscation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#36 Average Comp This Year At Top Firm Estimated At $700,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#11 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#19 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#26 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#47 "Fraud & Stupidity Look a Lot Alike"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#48 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#33 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#42 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#59 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#36 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#48 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#60 In your opinon, what is the highest risk of financial fraud for a corporation ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#30 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#56 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#83 The banking sector grew seven times faster than gross domestic product since the beginning of the financial crisis and Too-Big-to-Fail: Banks Get Bigger After Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#3 The Obama Spending Non-surge
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 17:57:27 -0500Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> writes:
Why Is Open-Internet Champion Darrell Issa Supporting an Attack on Open
Science?
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/01/why-is-open-internet-champion-darrell-issa-supporting-an-attack-on-open-science/250929/
closing line:
And that's just it. If the goal is protecting the publishing industry,
this bill's a winner. But for those interested in improving access to
scientific research, they should stay far, far away.
... snip ...
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 09 Jan, 2012 Subject: Mitt Romney avoids U.S tax by using Offshore bank accounts Blog: Facebookre:
only slightly over 1% so far
IRS gives offshore tax cheats another chance to come clean
http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/09/pf/taxes/offshore_accounts/index.htm
trivia ...
Tax haven
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_haven
references
2008 Liechtenstein tax affair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Liechtenstein_tax_affair
reference to being in Liechtenstein for financial conference
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#56
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#62
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#64
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#42
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 10 Jan, 2012 Subject: Israel vows to hit back after credit cards hacked Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and SecurityIsrael vows to hit back after credit cards hacked
from above
Israel said on Saturday the online publication of thousands of its
citizens' credit card details by a hacker who says he is based in
Saudi Arabia was comparable to terrorism, and promised to hit back.
... snip ...
we were tangentially involved in the cal. breach notification legislation having been brought in to help wordsmith the cal. electronic signature legislation ... and many of the participants were heavily involved in privacy issues (working on both breach notification as well as opt-in privacy sharing ... or at least until GLBA federal preemption with opt-out privacy sharing).
institutional breaches of transaction logs were major cause of fraudulent financial transactions ... but not against the institutions ... so the institutions had little motivation to do anything about them; there was some anticipation that the publicity from the notifications might provide some motivation to correct situation
since the cal. legislation there have been numerous fed. (preemption) notification bills introduced about equally divided between requiring notification and eliminating nearly all requirements for notification.
also with regard to GLBA opt-out privacy sharing, opt-out sharing is allowed unless there is record of opt-out, opt-in sharing is only allowed when there is record of approval. a few years ago there was a FTC commissioner panel at national privacy conference in DC ... where somebody in the audience asked if the FTC was ever going to do anything about privacy sharing. they said they were associated with implementation of callcenters for major financial institutions and claimed that none of the 1-800 opt-out call facilities ever made record of opt-out requests
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:17:54 -0500"Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
move to 360/67 (univ. got for tss/360 ... which didn't run well) that ran os/360 for most of the stuff. initially student fortran ran over minute elapsed time (100 times increase).
as undergraduate, I got involved with computers and eventually univ. gave me job responsible for the system. initial installation of hasp got elapsed time for student jobs down under a minute. I then started doing very careful os/360 system generation ... with careful placement of data on disk (to optimize arm seek) got another three times improvement (around 12-13 seconds elapsed time).
this is part of old presentation that I gave at fall'68 share meeting
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#18
it talks about base os/360 work ... but they also let me play with cp67 on the weekends ... and I rewrote a lot of cp67 code during 1968 ... and part of the presentation also describes performance of the extensive rewrite.
i eventually get to install watfor ... and finally elapsed time for student jobs drops below that of 709 tape-to-tape ibsys. watfor ran as its own monitor ... datacenter "window" typically accumulated around tray of student fortran jobs (total around 3000 cards) and ran as single os/360 "job" ... with watfor handling where one student job ended and the next one began. this by itself was significant since nearly all of running student job with 3-step fortran-g compile, linkedit and go was the approx 12seconds os/360 "overhead" processing (even with my arm seek optimization; student job processing was nearly all os/360 job step overhead).
I have some vague recollection of watfor being quoted as 20,000 cards (statements) per minute (on 360/65 or 67) ... with typical student fortran program at 50-100 cards ... a tray of 3000 cards would be typically something like 50 jobs ... taking around 650 seconds elapsed time.
Watfor was run as a single os/360 job step ... approx. 4 seconds elapsed time (for whole tray of cards) plus 3000 statement compile @20000/minute or about 9 seconds ... say 13seconds total (student job elapsed time execution typically was neglible). This was finally faster thruput than 709 ibsys tape-to-tape (and 50 times faster than standard 3-step fortgclg ... nearly all coming from elimination of os/360 step processing overhead)
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 10 Jan, 2012 Subject: Romney's Opponents Intensify Attacks as Voting Nears Blog: FacebookRomney's Opponents Intensify Attacks as Voting Nears
this book on the industry:
https://www.amazon.com/Buyout-America-Private-Equity-Credit/dp/1591842859/
has summary with analogy to buying house, fixing and flipping; the difference is the zero-down loan you used to buy the house goes to the new owner (in addition to the loan they took take out to buy the house) ... aka the original loan isn't paid off when the house flips ("stays" with the house). the resulting debt load can be fatal.
"Age of Greed"
https://www.amazon.com/Age-Greed-Triumph-Finance-ebook/dp/B004DEPF6I/
also has a section on stats about (take-over/lbo/private-equity) deals
over the past few decades. The claimed efficiencies were rarely
achieved and even the best improvements had hard time offsetting the
enormous debt load placed on the organization. It seems to have mostly
become players walking away with as much possible in their pockets
leaving behind scorched earth under a thin facade.
past posts mentioning private equity industry:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#80 Favourite computer history books?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#29 After a Romney Deal, Profits and Then Layoffs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#40 Civilization, doomed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#71 How Pursuit of Profits Kills Innovation and the U.S. Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#4 The Myth of Work-Life Balance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#29 Mitt Romney avoids U.S tax by using Offshore bank accounts
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:48:38 -0500Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
default system build "sysgen" was to punch up a 60-100 card "stage1" specifying features, configurations, etc for system build. then boot/ipl a "starter" system ... which was an abbreviated os/360 with all the build files ... stage1 sysgen was an "assembly" ... but it didn't generate executable programs ... it was all macro statements that was "punch" statements ... output card images. These card images were the stage2 sysgen ... possibly approx 2000 cards ... which were large number of job steps ... mostly iebcopy or iehmove program execution (copying files from starter system image to the target system build disks). Executing stage2 sysgen was possibly a 5-8hr elapsed time operation that ran under the "starter" system.
I started taking the stage2 sysgen and reworking so that 1) I could run it in production operating system (that including hasp, which would significantly speed up some amount of the stuff) and 2) carefully reordered to the steps and control statements to achieve placement of files/data on the new system build disks (significantly improving arm seek motion and system throughput).
misc. other past posts mentioning redoing stage2 sysgen:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/97.html#22 Pre S/360 IBM Operating Systems?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/97.html#28 IA64 Self Virtualizable?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/98.html#21 Reviving the OS/360 thread (Questions about OS/360)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#50 Navy orders supercomputer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003c.html#51 HASP assembly: What the heck is an MVT ABEND 422?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004c.html#59 real multi-tasking, multi-programming
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#29 FW: Looking for Disk Calc program/Exec
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005b.html#41 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#6 Software for IBM 360/30 (was Re: DOS/360: Forty years)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#40 You might be a mainframer if... :-) V3.8
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005o.html#12 30 Years and still counting
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#38 IEH/IEB/... names?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005s.html#50 Various kinds of System reloads
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#18 Various kinds of System reloads
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#57 PDS Directory Question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006i.html#15 rexx or other macro processor on z/os?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#29 Mainframe Limericks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#93 How old are you?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#69 ServerPac Installs and dataset allocations
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#33 JCL parms
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#10 Usefulness of bidirectional read/write?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#78 CPU time differences for the same job
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#47 Book on Poughkeepsie
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#76 CMS IPL (& other misc)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#20 If you don't have access to a mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#46 SNA: conflicting opinions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#19 PDP-10s and Unix
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#21 PDP-10s and Unix
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#61 Source code for s/360 [PUBLIC]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#60 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#13 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#33 History of Hard-coded Offsets
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#61 Mainframe Slang terms
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#47 CKD DASD
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#44 My first mainframe experience
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#50 My first mainframe experience
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#17 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#13 program coding pads
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#17 Last card reader?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#34 Data Areas?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#87 Any candidates for best acronyms?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#5 Why are organizations sticking with mainframes?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: 5 meg hard drive Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:27:20 -0500greymausg writes:
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 10 Jan, 2012 Subject: Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present Blog: FacebookAge of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present
"Age of Greed" has a section on stats about (take-over/lbo/private-equity) deals over the past few decades. The claimed efficiencies were rarely achieved and even the best improvements had hard time offsetting the enormous debt load placed on the organization. It seems to have mostly become players walking away with as much possible in their pockets leaving behind scorched earth under a thin facade.
recent "age of greed" posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#3 We are on the brink of a historic decision [referring to defence cuts]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#30 Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#31 Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#37 Romney's Opponents Intensify Attacks as Voting Nears
other recent private equity posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#29 After a Romney Deal, Profits and Then Layoffs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#40 Civilization, doomed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#71 How Pursuit of Profits Kills Innovation and the U.S. Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#4 The Myth of Work-Life Balance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#29 Mitt Romney avoids U.S tax by using Offshore bank accounts
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 10 Jan, 2012 Subject: The Heritage Foundation, Then and Now Blog: Boyd Strategyre:
The Heritage Foundation, Then and Now
http://battleland.blogs.time.com/2012/01/10/the-heritage-foundation-then-and-now/
from above:
On December 26, 2012 the Director of Heritage's Center for Foreign
Policy Studies, Dr. James J. Carafano, published a commentary in the
Washington Examiner, "What To Do about Obama's Pound-Foolish Air
Force." Without saying so explicitly, he implied that the legendary
Col. John R. Boyd, "a fighter pilot's fighter pilot" in Dr. Carafano's
words, would favor what the good doctor wants: to reopen production of
the $411 million F-22 and to buy more $154 million F-35s.
... snip ...
Fred Leland posted this on linkedin and I'm reposting it. 1983 was first time I sponsored Boyd's briefings at IBM. I've periodically claimed that Boyd had a hand in the F20, corresponding to comments in his briefings about significantly simpler, cheaper, and much higher ratio of flying hrs to maintenance hrs. As in the article, others try to use the same words about things where they don't apply
refs and past posts mentioning Boyd
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 10 Jan, 2012 Subject: Drones now account for one third of U.S. warplanes Blog: FacebookDrones now account for one third of U.S. warplanes
from above:
According to a new Congressional report, the country's military now
has 7,494 drone aircraft in use, compared to 10,767 traditional,
manned planes. The Army accounts for most of the drones: 5,346 of the
tiny (4 lb) RQ-11 Raven, pictured, to be specific
... snip ...
There was similar observation about the internal network and 747 full
of cdrom. misc. past posts mentioning internal network
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
The number of B52s came up in this (linkedin) mainframe discussion
last fall:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#75
total number of b52s produced: 744, 94 still flying
Late last fall there was comment in conference that at least 50
different drones had gone from idea to production in the previous
12month period (agile & adaptable). This is compared to F22 & F35
recently mentioned in this:
http://lnkd.in/86M_HT
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#42
I was at boeing in '69 ... brought in to help jump start BCS (moving all dataprocessing into its own business unit, i was among first dozen BCS employees). I was mostly up at corporate hdqtrs at boeing field. I rented a basement apartment from 747 engineer who had lots of stories. However, the largest datacenter I had ever seen was renton ... that summer 360/65s were arriving faster than they could be installed ... constantly pieces of machines sitting in the halls around the machine room waiting to be installed (claim was something like $300M in IBM equipment ... maybe $2B 2011 dollars). Later there was decision to replicate the datacenter at the 747 plant in Everett. The disaster scenario was Mt. Rainier heats up resulting in mud slide that takes out the Renton datacenter. The Renton datacenter being out for a week costs the company more than the cost of the datacenter.
80s one of the projects I was doing was HSDT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
and the company expert on NSC HYPERchannel ... and got asked to do joint marketing calls on Boeing regarding T1+ satellite links between Renton and Everett keeping data in synch.
trivia x-over with above thread f22/f35 article ... I had sponsored
Boyd's briefings at IBM in the 80s. About the time I was at Boeing
... Boyd was in command of Spook Base, one of Boyd's bios claims that
Spook Base was $2.5B windfall for IBM (over $17B in today's dollars)
... presumably that windfall helped cover what went down the hole in
FS. misc. past FS refs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
renton field wasn't large enough for 747 to land. they had assembled smaller boeing planes in renton and the airstrip was just large enough for planes to get off the ground (out over lake washington). backup tapes would have gone into trucks and closest field (where 747 could land) was either seatac or boeing field ... but it was easier just to continue driving up to everett
refs and past posts mentioning Boyd
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:49:19 -0500Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> writes:
most of the fast run was eliminating os/360 supervisor job step overheads. However, raw WATFOR compile time (i have vague recollection of 20,000 statements/min on 360/65) was faster than FORT-G (and much faster than FORT-H) ... part of explanation was that WATFOR "compiled" lots of statements into "stub-calls" directly into the execution workspace ... making raw WATFOR program execution a lot slower than either FORT-G or FORT-H ... which was resonable trade-off for student jobs. The approach did result in lot better runtime diagnostics.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 09:51:50 -0500Erik Trulsson <ertr1013@student.uu.se> writes:
technical debt can also be taken as infrastructure maintenance (or lack there of) ... corporate america has developed a long tradition of deferring maintenance and using funds to boost executive compensation.
quote attributable to Volcker from Confidence Men: Wall Street,
Washington, and the Education of a President pg290
https://www.amazon.com/Confidence-Men-Washington-Education-ebook/dp/B0089LOKKS/
Well, I said, 'The trouble with the United States recently is we spent
several decades not producing many civil engineers and producing a
huge number of financial engineers. And the result is s**tty bridges
and a s**tty financial system!'
... snip ...
the discussion sort of started out chicken&egg ... no infrastructure projects results in not hiring civil engineers which contributes to disappearing civil engineering programs
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 12 Jan, 2012 Subject: You may ask yourself, well, how did I get here? Blog: Chicago Boyzre:
Boyd in his briefings would contrast US army, rigid, top-down,
command&control structure with Guderian's direction verbal orders
only for the blitzkrieg (supposedly to encourage commander on the
spot to make decision w/o having to worry about CYA and after action
reviews). About the time I first sponsored Boyd's briefings at IBM
... I had gotten embroiled with people doing a security audit who
found the following definition laying around and complained that it
was specifically to ridicule them:
[Business Maxims:] Signs, real and imagined, which belong on the walls
of the nation's offices:
1) Never Try to Teach a Pig to Sing; It Wastes Your Time and It Annoys the Pig.
2) Sometimes the Crowd IS Right.
3) Auditors Are the People Who Go in After the War Is Lost and Bayonet the Wounded.
4) To Err Is Human -- To Forgive Is Not Company Policy.
"Age of Greed"
https://www.amazon.com/Age-Greed-Triumph-Finance-ebook/dp/B004DEPF6I/
has long section on Welch (@ GE) includes comment about his trying to offset corporate command&control structure. However, much of the section was about how he cut expenses, things like R&D needed for long term viability, in exchange for short-term benefits (which really started to be felt after he retired).
Mid-80s, senior management was predicting that revenue would double from $60B to $120B (approx. $250B in today's dollars) in few short years ... mostly based on mainframe hardware sales ... and started massive internal bldg program to double mainframe manufacturing capacity ... this was at a time when indications that microprocessors were already starting to drive mainframe business in the opposite direction. A few short years later, company goes into red (doesn't double revenue).
IBM Sees A Big Boost As It turns 100
http://www.npr.org/2011/12/28/143834727/ibm-sees-a-big-boost-as-it-turns-100
has 83% of its business in services and software ... means that only 17% is everything else ... including all kinds of hardware including mainframe.
It sort of reminds me of observation in Silicon Valley about startup business plans ... that most common characteristic of startups, that had survived two years, were that they had completely changed their business plan at least once. In IBM's case, it wasn't a startup and it wasn't w/o a lot of pain. Contributing characteristic was that even with massive migration to microprocessors ... there are many core critical infrastructures that still heavily use mainframes (even if that part of the business has been relatively stagnant)
possibly accelerating the downturn was along with the massive bldg. program there was also a big uptick in the executive "fasttrack" program (mostly young MBAs). business operations got six-month turn-over of the anointed ones, which maximized their "mistake" learning experiences. However, the frequent fasttrack executives churn and all the mistakes had downside for the victim business operations.
there is folklore that the top several hundred executives spent the last half of '92 shifting expenses from following year into '92. The issue was that bonuses were paid on dubious definition of "improvement" ... the shift drove '92 further into the red (for which there wasn't any bonus) but allowed moving the following year slightly into the black ... and as a result, the bonuses were more than twice the previous largest bonus ever paid (in effect the executives made more money by taking the company into the red) ... all before Gerstner.
"Age of Greed" describes KKR (& Gerstner's stint at KKR) turn-around formula that enormously benefits the top executives at the expense of the majority of employees ... and only rarely actually benefits the victim corporation (somewhat being played out in the current Bain Capital discussions).
some of the LBO/private-equity/take-over scenarios during "Age of Greed" also plays
out:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102794881687002297268/posts/3RkrnmcA7Nq
and
http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2011/10/journal-why-the-us-middle-class-is-broken.html
and
https://www.amazon.com/Buyout-America-Private-Equity-Credit/dp/1591842859/
misc. past posts mentioning verbal orders only:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#120 atomic History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#29 Review of Steve McConnell's AFTER THE GOLD RUSH
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#16 mainframe question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#36 Mainframers: Take back the light (spotlight, that is)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#38 Mainframers: Take back the light (spotlight, that is)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#33 Star Trek: TNG reference
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003h.html#51 employee motivation & executive compensation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003p.html#27 The BASIC Variations
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004k.html#24 Timeless Classics of Software Engineering
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#86 Organizations with two or more Managers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#14 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#9 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#41 was change headers: The Fate of VM - was: Re: Baby MVS???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#37 Special characters in passwords was Re: RACF - Password rules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#52 Special characters in passwords was Re: RACF - Password rules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#25 Special characters in passwords was Re: RACF - Password rules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#34 WWII supplies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#8a Using Military Philosophy to Drive High Value Sales
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#61 Up, Up, ... and Gone?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#63 how can a hierarchical mindset really ficilitate inclusive and empowered organization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#69 Blinkenlights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#73 Most 'leaders' do not 'lead' and the majority of 'managers' do not 'manage'. Why is this?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#34 Mission Control & Air Cooperation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#43 Boyd's Briefings
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#68 Favourite computer history books?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#7 Innovation and iconoclasm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#3 Preparing for Boyd II
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#52 An elusive command philosophy and a different command culture
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Non-acquiring/probing reads Newsgroups: comp.arch Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 12:27:47 -0500EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> writes:
... which took several years to catch on. one of the complicating factors were changes also had to logged to local processor journal ... and in case of failure/recovery ... original order had to be recreated merging independent journals (previously, there was always a write-back to disk before hand-off to new owner).
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 13 Jan, 2012 Subject: Avoiding a lost decade Blog: Google+re:
Avoiding a lost decade
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/10/avoiding-a-lost-decade/
read "Confidence Men"
https://www.amazon.com/Confidence-Men-Washington-Education-ebook/dp/B0089LOKKS/
... the economic "A-team" helped get the president elected and in the "japan-or-sweden" solution they were going to choose "sweden" ... but they were also going to hold those on wallstreet accountable ... the president then appoints the "B-team" which selects "japan" solution (many who participated in the bubble and were not going to hold those responsible accountable).
"Zombie Banks"
https://www.amazon.com/Zombie-Banks-Crippling-Bloomberg-ebook/dp/B0060IWMNY
goes into more detail on effects of choosing the "japan" solution, propping up the failed institutions, and not holding those responsible accountable (although there are some disingenuous comments about wallstreet not knowing what it was doing).
The Worst Economic Recovery Since The Great Depression
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/01/12/the-worst-economic-recovery-since-the-great-depression/
has it already 13 months by the time the new president took office ... and "Confidence Men" describes new president basically continuing policies in place ... in part by choosing the "B-team" (rather than the "A-team" that helped him get elected). In the "Confidence Men" about the "japan-or-sweden" choice, it mentions that sweden first went through a "japan" period before switching and having to actually finally reset the failed institutions (as well as the people responsible).
other recent posts mentioning "Confidence Men" and/or "Zombie Banks"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#67 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#70 No One Telling Who Took $586B in Fed Swaps
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#73 A question for the readership
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#74 Derivatives and free trade
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#79 Financial Crimes Bedevil Prosecutors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#83 Heading For World War III | Gerald Celente Trends Blog
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#88 Fed Report Finds Speculators Played Big Role in Housing Collapse
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#91 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#109 Zombie Banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#110 Loan Originators
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#111 Matt Taibbi with Xmas Message from the Rich
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#132 Yes Virginia, Electronic Signatures Are Legal
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#17 What's your favorite quote on "accountability"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#21 Zombie Banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#30 Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#44 Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"?
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 13 Jan, 2012 Subject: Fed's image tarnished by newly released documents Blog: Google+re:
Fed's image tarnished by newly released documents
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/greenspan-image-tarnished-by-newly-released-documents/2012/01/12/gIQAvh0mtP_story.html
Greenspan chapter in "Age of Greed" didn't do him much good either ...
then there is: Bernanke Was Hoping For Soft Landing In '06, Didn't Get It
http://www.forbes.com/sites/steveschaefer/2012/01/12/bernanke-was-hoping-for-soft-landing-in-06/
... then there is "Confidence Men" where Obama's economic A-team was going to hold those responsible ... and the "B-team" was appointed instead.
just one of many ... Age of Greed, pg.244 ...
Even the FBI warned in 2004 of an "epidemic" of fraud in subprime
mortgage writing, but it had devoted so many of its resources to
antiterrorist activities, it had little left to pursue unscrupulous
mortgage brokers. Greenspan knew about these loans, and was warned by
associates at the Federal Reserve that abuses were mounting. He had
the authority to investigate but chose not to. In 2004, remarkably,
Greenspan himself spoke favorably of the ARMs.
... snip ...
also cross-over with "Avoiding a lost decade"
https://plus.google.com/u/0/115654160414327824330/posts/hz3QhzVpyvX
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#47 Avoiding a lost decade
also: "Fed 2006 Transcript Highlights: Riding Housing Roller Coaster
With Eyes Shut"
https://plus.google.com/u/0/116060095457534579153/posts/6jdjrGbwmSR
and followup "Flying Blind: Inside the Federal Reserve's Damning 2006
Transcript"
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102794881687002297268/posts/cMwRXmGBGvn
other recent posts mentioning "Age of Greed"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#3 We are on the brink of a historic decision [referring to defence cuts]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#30 Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#31 Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#37 Romney's Opponents Intensify Attacks as Voting Nears
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#40 Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#45 You may ask yourself, well, how did I get here?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: No internet in 1984 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:39:28 -0500just now in speech about consolidating gov ... something that hasn't been done since 1984 ... lots of things have changed since 1984 ... like we didn't have the internet.
well at least we didn't have the modern internet. some past posts
related to switch-over from imps/arpanet to tcpip/internet on 1jan83.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/internet.htm
old email about nsfnet backbone
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet
post posts mentioning tcpip the technology basis for modern internet,
nsfnet backbone the operational basis for the modern internet, and cix
business basis for modern internet:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005l.html#16 Newsgroups (Was Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#10 What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#6 What are the latest topic in TCP/IP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#37 Callable Wait State
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#32 How does the internet really look like ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005s.html#28 MVCIN instruction
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006i.html#21 blast from the past on reliable communication
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#10 An Out-of-the-Main Activity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#6 Was FORTRAN buggy?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#50 Ranking of non-IBM mainframe builders?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#55 What's a mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#52 IBM sues maker of Intel-based Mainframe clones
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#33 NSFNET (long post warning)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#31 old tapes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#43 Is computer history taugh now?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#38 sizeof() was: The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#67 SSL vs. SSL over tcp/ip
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#40 Best practices for software delivery
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#69 How the Internet took over
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#70 Using rexx to send an email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#14 Superconductors and computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#37 Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#67 nouns and adjectives
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#24 Does socket represent an interface between ... ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#71 What if there were two Internets?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#27 What if phone company had developed Internet?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#43 what does xp do when system is copying
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#56 what does xp do when system is copying
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#45 Are there tasks that don't play by WLM's rules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#15 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#7 Public Computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#94 Lynn - You keep using the term "we" - who is "we"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#41 NSFnet -- 20 Years of Internet Obscurity and Insight
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#85 IBM-MAIN longevity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008l.html#9 IBM-MAIN longevity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#12 Discussions areas, private message silos, and how far we've come since 199x
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#29 How were you using the internet 10 years ago and how does that differ from how you use it today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#6 What if the computers went back to the '70s too?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#19 Nerdy networking kid crashes the party
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#56 Hurrah Berners-Lee! Web celebrates 20th anniversary
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#60 Lack of bit field instructions in x86 instruction set because of patents ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#11 Top 10 Cybersecurity Threats for 2009, will they cause creation of highly-secure Corporate-wide Intranets?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#8 Supercomputers and electronic commerce
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#43 Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX? (Are settlements a good argument for overnight batch COBOL ?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#18 Another one bites the dust
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#76 CMS IPL (& other misc)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#38 More holes found in Web's SSL security protocol
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#7 VTAM security issue
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#47 SNA: conflicting opinions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#54 Follow up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#46 From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#83 Small Server Mob Advantage
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#8 Union Pacific Railroad ditches its mainframe for SOA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#38 old modems
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#10 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#99 "The Naked Mainframe" (Forbes Security Article)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#71 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#64 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#84 CSC History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#26 z/OS, TCP/IP, and OSA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#6 When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#32 Compared even to the development of the phone or TV; the Web developed very quickly
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#62 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#48 Is email dead? What do you think?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#31 Colossal Cave Adventure in PL/I
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#34 Colossal Cave Adventure in PL/I
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#59 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#4 Is email dead? What do you think?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#57 Rise of the Internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#65 IBM100 - Rise of the Internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#88 Would mainframe technology be relevant in the age of cloud computing?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#11 History of APL -- Software Preservation Group
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#27 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#43 First Website Launched 20 Years Ago Today
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#75 Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#26 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#58 Oldest computer on the internet?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#6 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#35 How old is the oldest email in your current email inbox?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#2 Soups
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#11 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#33 Last Word on Dennis Ritchie
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#43 VNET 1983 1000 NODES
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#69 The culture of the pre-commercial Internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#91 Convergence of Mainframe and Distributed Computing Systems
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#13 Any candidates for best acronyms?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#35 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#38 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#50 Hello?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#98 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#129 Perspectives: Looped back in
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 13 Jan, 2012 Subject: Can any one tell about what is APL language Blog: Mainframe Expertsre:
In addition to the science center doing virtual machines, inventing GML (later morphs into SGML & then HTML), CMS (and port of apl360 to virtual memory for cmsapl), internal network, basis for univ. bitnet/earn, ... there was also a lot of performance work ... extensive monitoring, workload & system profiling (later evolves into capacity planning), discrete system modeling, and analytical modeling. One of the science center analytical models was implemented in APL and evolves into the performance predictor offered on HONE (i.e. sales&marketing people could input profiles of the customer system & workload and then ask "what-if" questions about system &/or workload changes). A modification of the performance predictor was also used by HONE for the workload balancing across the cluster/loosely-coupled single-system-image.
During the corporate troubles in the early 90s ... somebody in Europe acquired the rights to a many generation descendent of the performance predictor, ran it through an APL->C-language convertor and was using it for large datacenter consulting business. I ran into them a decade ago, when I was asked to look at a 450+kstatement Cobol application ... which ran every night on 40+ maximum configured mainframes.
misc. past posts mentioning the science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
misc. past posts mentioning GML, SGML, HTML, etc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#sgml
misc. past posts mentioning HONE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone
misc. past posts mentioning internal network
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
misc. past posts mentioning bitnet/earn
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: 5 meg hard drive Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 16:47:56 -0500Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> writes:
and something I just saw today has Boeing fairly high up on the list:
http://front.moveon.org/which-corporations-occupy-congress/
but it must be old-style lobbying ... since corporations are now citizens and don't have to report some amount of their political spending.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: 5 meg hard drive Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 16:51:55 -0500Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 14 Jan, 2012 Subject: Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes? Blog: Mainframe Expertsre:
some trivia ... there were a number of internal fullscreen editors that predated xedit, more mature and more function. I got somewhat pulled into the middle of argument ... and at one point the organization that was looking at putting out XEDIT told me that it was the "fault" of the authors of these other editors that they were faster, better, more mature, and had more function than XEDIT and therefor it should be their responsibility to upgrade XEDIT to equivalent level. Note at the time, mvs/tso/ispf/ etc. wasn't even in close running ... much of internal corporate development was being doing on vm/cms ... even for the non-vm/cms platforms.
old email with some performance comparison
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email790606
other related email on the subject in this same post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#26
..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email781103 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email800311 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email800312 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email800429 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email800501 ..
and part of recent ISPF thread in ibm-main
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#106 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#107 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#112
past posts in this discussion
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#10 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#11 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#13 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#27 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#75 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#90 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#32 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#35 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#36 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#38 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#39 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#40 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#44 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#51 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#52 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#54 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#55 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#57 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#64 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#75 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#76 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#77 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#78 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#81 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#91 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#94 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#95 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#98 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#100 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#103 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#140 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 15 Jan, 2012 Subject: Report: Fed Officials Joked About Housing Crisis Blog: Google+re:
Report: Fed Officials Joked About Housing Crisis
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Report-Fed-Officials-Joked/2012/01/13/id/424104
From pre-2006 references, the FED's 2006 report makes it tempting to
refer to them as the 3-monkeys (Japanese: san'en or sanzaru, or
sanbiki no saru, literally "three monkeys"), "see no evil", "hear no
evil", "speak no evil" ... other references
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102794881687002297268/posts/cMwRXmGBGvn
and
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102794881687002297268/posts/LKzCjGhGdu9
Analogy to housing market is speculator buys houses (with little down) ... sometimes making fixups before flipping. The private-equity difference is that the original loan isn't paid off, but is assumed by the new owner.
recently related posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#0 Revolution Through Banking?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#6 We are on the brink of a historic decision [referring to defence cuts]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#21 Zombie Banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#48 Fed's image tarnished by newly released documents
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 15 Jan, 2012 Subject: Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes? Blog: Mainframe Expertsre:
note that the corporation wasn't exactly planning on having 50+yr interoperability/compatibility. In the mid-part of the 70s, the corporation had Future System effort to completely replace 370 ... it was as different from 360/370 as 360 had been different from prior generations. The folklore is that its exceedingly high integration and complexity was countermeasure to clone controllers. The internal FS politics went about killing off 370 efforts that might be considered competitive (using claim that FS would completely replace 370). As it was, FS finally met its demise without ever being announced (after enormous amount of money and effort and killing off lots of 370 efforts).
In the wake of the demise of the FS effort, then there was a mad rush to get products back into the 370 hardware & software pipelines ... this delay also is claimed as enabling/allowing the clone processors to gain a market foothold.
as mentioned before, I continued to do 370 stuff all thru the FS period ... even ridiculing FS activities (which possibly wasn't the most career enhancing activity) ... however, with the demise of FS ... the mad rush to get products back into 370 pipeline ... contributed to decision to release some of my stuff.
misc past posts mentioning future system
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
misc. other references to future system effort:
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm ..
https://people.computing.clemson.edu/~mark/fs.html ..
https://www.ecole.org/en/session/49-the-rise-and-fall-of-ibm
https://www.ecole.org/en/session/49-the-rise-and-fall-of-ibm ..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Future_Systems_project
other recent post in this thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#53 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 15 Jan 2012 09:20:33 -0800Linda.lstsrv@COMCAST.NET (Linda Mooney) writes:
by comparison, recent z196 announce claims 50BIPS in maximum configured
(80 processor) system
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2010/09/01/ibm-unveils-worlds-fastest-microprocessor/
my first programming class was student fortran on 709.
my first programming job was porting 1401 MPIO to 360/30 that had 64kbytes ... I got to design & implement my own monitor, devices drivers, interrupt handlers, error recovery, storage management, etc.
low-end 360 were 0.0018 to 0.034 MIPs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System/360
and
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_PP2030.html
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 15 Jan, 2012 Subject: The Myth of Work-Life Balance Blog: Greater IBMre:
"Age of Greed" has ratio of top execs to worker compensation peaking
over 500:1
https://www.amazon.com/Age-Greed-Triumph-Finance-ebook/dp/B004DEPF6I/
"Age of Greed" also talks about KKR winning bidding war with
Shearson/Amex for RJR.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shearson
The LBO/private-equity has loans being floated to do the LBO ... with
the company later being flipped, some analogy to speculators flipping
in the real estate market. The difference is that the LBO loan isn't
paid off but stays with the company (say a company has $2B debt before
the LBO, then is later flipped/IPO'ed and may come out with $30B
debt).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RJR_Nabisco
Anyway Gerstner is 2nd in command at AMEX apparently being groomed to
take-over as CEO from Robinson. KKR has problems with RJR being able
to service the LBO debt (even before flipping the company) and hires
Gerstner to turn it around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_V._Gerstner,_Jr.
IBM has gone in the red and there are jokes in POK about would the last person to leave please turn out the lights (reference to old Boeing downturn when somebody put up a billboard that said would the last person to leave Seattle, please turn out the lights).
One might conjecture that the financial community, realizing their heavy dependence on mainframes ... was instrumental in pushing the board to bring somebody (Gerstner) in to keep the company going, so it can at least keep producing mainframes.
Disclaimer, in 1992, AMEX had largest IPO (up until then), spinning
off its card processing business as First Data:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Data
I do a stint at First Data as chief scientist (some stuff slightly
garbled):
https://web.archive.org/web/20190524015712/http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/stoprun/Stop-Run/Making-History/
"Age of Greed" has executive compensation being tied to stock price and rising stock market can provide for enormous executive compensation even when the individuals are mediocre or incompetent. The enormous corruption isn't particularly new having been repeated several times over the country's centuries.
Railroad hyperbole echoes all the way down to the dot-com frenzy
http://phys.org/news/2012-01-railroad-hyperbole-echoes-dot-com-frenzy.html
and
https://www.amazon.com/Railroaded-Transcontinentals-Making-America-ebook/dp/B0051GST1U
mentions creative destruction ... but points out that it was more destruction and people get rich even if the company doesn't make money and/or goes bankrupt (part of the railroad secret was to get as much money out of congress as possible)
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 15 Jan, 2012 Subject: An approach to Dump formatting of Control Blocks Blog: MainframeZonere:
shortly after REX availability internally (was later renamed REXX), I wanted to demonstrate that REX wasn't just another pretty scripting language. I decided to demonstrate that I could re-implement IPCS (at the time implemented in large amount of assembler code) in REX over period of 3months elapsed time working on it half-time ... with ten times the function and performing ten times faster. I then had hoped that it could be released as replacement for the existing IPCS (in part because it was the start of the OCO-wars and all source would have to be shipped since it was in REXX). I finished early ... so I started a library of automated routines that would analyze for the most common failure signature/fingerprint.
For whatever reason it was never released even though nearly every
internal datacenter was using it and the vast majority of PSRs were
using it for analyzing customer problems. Eventually I was able to get
approving to present how I did the implementation at local user group
meeting as well as SHARE (start of similar other vendor
implementations starting to appear). misc. past posts commenting on
the implementation of DUMPRX:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dumprx
old email about the 3090 service processor people later looking at
including it with their distribution:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#email861031
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#email861223
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: IBM's z196 Article at RWT Newsgroups: comp.arch Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:08:31 -0500David Kanter <dkanter@gmail.com> writes:
aka z196 double with combination of more processors and faster processors
earlier reference to z196 hitting 50BIPS ... also in the mid-80s, senior
executives predicting company revenue doubling from $60B to $120B mostly
on mainframe revenue and started massive bldg program to double
mainframe manufacturing capacity, this was at time when mainframe
business was already starting to show heading in the opposite
direction and in few years the company goes into the red
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#20 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity
above has company revenue shifting from primarily mainframe hardware to currently 83% software and services ... all other products, including all hardware platforms account for 17%
another recent post on the subject ... including middle of last decade,
cellphone xscale hit 1 BIPS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#56 IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 16 Jan, 2012 Subject: Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes? Blog: Mainframe Expertsre:
some xedit (& rexx) x-over from (linkedin) MainframeZone "An approach
to Dump formatting of Control Blocks" discussion
http://lnkd.in/RmpzhX
post also archived here:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#58
indirect reference in the 3090 service processor email ... the application could either be run as line interface, stream intput/output ... or as a "XEDIT" macro ... using XEDIT to retain all input/output in the session as XEDIT file.
with reference to formatting control blocks ... I had implemented a psuedo assemblere/disassembler in REXX and could use a reference to dsect maclib member for formating storage areas.
misc. past posts mentioning dumprx
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dumprx
scientific programming will refer to codes ... including numerical intensive codes ... possibly because it may have predated commercial programming ... as well as references to things like code snippets. Older references to numerical intensive codes were things like 370/195 which had 64 instruction pipeline ... but most branches would drain the pipeline (no branch prediction nor speculative execution starting to be seen in 80s & 90s) ... resulting in 370/195 only operating at about half MIP-rate for most codes. There was special case for looping branches within the pipeline that would achieve peak thruput ... and there were various people specializing in writing codes for the 370/195 pipeline.
At one point I got sucked into looking at a hyper-threaded 370/195 ... emulated two-processor multiprocessor ... more for commercial workloads that weren't optimized for the 370/195 pipeline. Basically there were a pair of PSWs and registers and instructions in the pipeline were tagged as which thread they were associated with. Two instruction streams, each operating at approx. half 370/195 thruput would keep pipeline full and reach peak aggregate MIP rate. This never announced or shipped.
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 16 Jan, 2012 Subject: Hybrid computing -- from mainframe to virtualization Blog: Mainframe Expertsre:
minor nit, scientific center did virtual machine cp40 on 360/40 with
hardware modifications to support virtual memory ... and when 360/67
standard virtual memory product became available ... it morphed into
cp67. it was available to some number of internal and external
customers and then announced publicly at the spring '68 SHARE meeting
in Houston. misc. past posts mentioning science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
Lots of customers had been induced to order 360/67 to run TSS/360 ... when TSS/360 ran into troubles some customers wrote their own systems (Univ. Michigan did virtual memory Michigan Terminal System for 360/67 and Stanford did Orvyl/Wylbur/Milten for 360/67 ... note later Wylbur was ported os/360), some number of customers dropped back to using 360/67 in 360/65 mode with os/360 (w/o virtual memory), and quite a few ran cp/67 on 360/67. Boeing ordered 360/67 in 69 for cp/67 that was used to for internal online service ... starting core infrastructure for their Boeing Computer Services (BCS). In 1969, Boeing also moved their two-processor 360/67 that had originally been installed in Hunstville for tss/360, to Seattle.
In addition there were at least two commercial online service bureaus
created that offered online cp67/cms service (sort of the 60s version
of cloud computing). Two of the online service bureaus quickly moved
up the food chain and started offering online information to the
financial industry (closing NYSE stock prices going back
100yrs). There were several security issues since both of these
operations would have users from competitive financial institutions.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#timeshare
there were also these cp67 customers ... this has gone 404 ... but
lives on at the wayback machine (who also had security requirements)
... which I didn't learn about until much later.
https://web.archive.org/web/20090117083033/http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtml
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 17 Jan, 2012 Subject: Railroaded Blog: Google+re:
Railroad hyperbole echoes all the way down to the dot-com frenzy
http://phys.org/news/2012-01-railroad-hyperbole-echoes-dot-com-frenzy.html
from above:
Stanford historian Richard White said he began his book, 'Railroaded:
The Transcontinentals and the Making of Modern America,' 12 years ago
knowing only that he wanted to write something about the American West
and railroads. He was unprepared for what he found in the archives.
... snip ...
having just read "Age of Greed"
https://www.amazon.com/Age-Greed-Triumph-Finance-ebook/dp/B004DEPF6I/
... reading kindle free sample, I feel like I'm still reading "Age of
Greed" ... although it has a different cast of politicians to
ridicule.
https://www.amazon.com/Railroaded-Transcontinentals-Making-America-ebook/dp/B0051GST1U
Bloomberg TV news just had guest that said you are just starting to see leading edge of (effectively) returning to before "Age of Greed" (1970 or so); a chief risk officer that business can't ignore (lots of accounts of business people blaming bad risk models, but risk managers said that they were directed to fiddle the risk numbers until the business people got what they wanted), much lower leverage levels, much lower bonuses, much more effective regulation.
misc. past posts mentioning "Age of Greed":
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#3 We are on the brink of a historic decision [referring to defence cuts]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#30 Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#31 Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#37 Romney's Opponents Intensify Attacks as Voting Nears
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#40 Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#45 You may ask yourself, well, how did I get here?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#47 Avoiding a lost decade
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#48 Fed's image tarnished by newly released documents
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#57 The Myth of Work-Life Balance
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Reject gmail Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:14:38 -0500in the 80s, I was doing a project I called HSDT
doing my own internal high-speed backbone ... and working with some of
the entities involved in what would become the NSFNET backbone (aka
tcpip is technology basis for modern internet, NSFNET backbone was the
operational basis for the modern internet, and CIX was the business
basis for the modern internet) ... some old NSFNET backbone related
email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet
one of the difference between internal and external ... was all internal
links had to be encrypted. this sometimes resulted in lots of
interference from various countries ... especially when encrypted links
crossed national boundaries ... misc. past posts mentioning internal
network
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
old, long-winded post with list of internal locations that added
one or more network nodes in 1983:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#8
Link encryptors weren't too bad for 56kbit links ... but I find it really
onerous for T1 and faster ... both cost and availability. old email
reference about DES software encryption implementation on 3081 ran about
150kbytes/sec ... T1 full duplex sustained is 300kbytes/sec ... would
require two 3081 processors dedicated to just doing DES crypto on single
T1 link
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#email841115
other old crypto (both symmetric key and public key) related email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#crypto
including proposal for a PGP-like public key implementation:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#email810506
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email810515
In any case, I got involved in doing hardware link encryptor that could
be built for under $100, handle much faster speeds ... and incidentally
had much "stronger" crypto strength than straight DES ... I eventually
was told that could build as many as I wanted but they all would go to
address on the east coast. It was when I realized that there were three
kinds of crypto: 1) those they don't care about, 2) those you can do,
and 3) those you can only do for them. misc. past posts mentioning
the subject (realizing that there were 3 kinds of crypto):
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#22 What if phone company had developed Internet?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#87 New test attempt
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#86 Own a piece of the crypto wars
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#43 What is "timesharing" (Re: OS X Finder windows vs terminal window weirdness)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#32 Getting Out Hard Drive in Real Old Computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#27 Favourite computer history books?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#43 Internet Evolution - Part I: Encryption basics
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#20 TELSTAR satellite experiment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#60 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#0 We list every company in the world that has a mainframe computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#63 ARPANET's coming out party: when the Internet first took center stage
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#85 Key Escrow from a Safe Distance: Looking back at the Clipper Chip
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 17 Jan, 2012 Subject: Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes? Blog: Mainframe Expertsre:
Saltzer had done document formating "runoff" on (7094) CTSS
http://web.mit.edu/Saltzer/www/publications/CC-244.html ..
http://web.mit.edu/Saltzer/www/publications/PSN-40.html
some of the CTSS people then went to the 5th flr and did MULTICS
.... others joined the science center on the 4th floor ... misc. past
posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
did virtual machines, interactive computing, invented GML, lots of
performance stuff (some that involves into capacity planning,
etc). Early on, Stu Madnick did a port of runoff to cp67/cms and
called it "script". Then after GML was invented at the science center
in 1969, GML tag support was added to "script".
https://web.archive.org/web/20231001185033/http://www.sgmlsource.com/history/roots.htm
One of the first major corporate manuals moved to script was 370 principles of operation. The full document was referred to Architecture Redbook (for internal distribution in red 3-ring binders). Principles of Operation was subset of the architecture redbook ... with the architecture redbook containing a whole lot more information than what appears in POP. Conditional script controls would bracket the principles of operation sections ... and script parameter would control whether the full redbook was formatted or just the POP subsset.
A decade later GML morphs into (ISO standard) SGML ... and then
another decade, SGML morphs into HTML (at CERN) ... reference
http://infomesh.net/html/history/early/
past posts mentioning GML, SGML, HTML, etc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#sgml
and then first webserver outside europe is on the SLAC VM/CMS system
(a descendent of cp67/cms):
https://ahro.slac.stanford.edu/wwwslac-exhibit
other recent post discussing RUNOFF/SCRIPT history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#73
recent post in related thread about inventor of email (in ibm-main
mailing list)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#49
slightly related thread in this group
http://lnkd.in/p2yWAZ
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#61 Hybrid computing -- from mainframe to virtualization
besides cms "script" command (for document formating, originally
runoff syntax but after GML was invented also added support for GML
tags), "script" (ala like in script of a play) also gets applied to
file of interactive commands (i.e. command scripts) like CMS EXEC,
EXEC2, REXX (originally REX only on CMS ... also EDIT macros), Recent
reference
http://lnkd.in/RmpzhX
also
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#58
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#60
wanting to demonstrate that REX wasn't just another pretty (aka
command) scripting language.
script also applied to terminal scripts ... aka terminal emulators and automated simulated character input/output ... like HLLAPI on ibm/pc.
Predating ibm/pc and HLLAPI was parasite/story. Internal PVM (passthru
virtual machine) which allowed local terminal intput/output to be
simulated at a remote network location (simulated local terminal
connection at the remote location) ... later PVM was released to
customer. parasite/story was local application that could utilize the
PVM logical device interface to run a terminal script ... simulated
terminal input/output. Old reference to description of parasite/story
... as well as story syntax:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#35
this has a BUCKET story ... logs onto field engineering retain system
and automagically retrieves all "PUT" buckets:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#36
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Reject gmail Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:49:19 -0500re:
I have a souvenir chip from the DES cracking machine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Frontier_Foundation#DES_Cracker
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Encryption_Standard
longwinded crypto reflection
we have this meeting on cluster scale-up in ellison's conference room
... first part of jan92
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13
as part of ha/cmp
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp
some old cluster scale-up email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa
at the very end of jan. after 29jan92 email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#email920129
the cluster scale-up part is transferred, we are told we can't work on
anything with more than four processors and couple weeks later is
announced as supercomputer product (for numeric intensive only)
... old press reference 17feb92
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters1
and then 11May92:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters2
all this contributes to motivation to depart. Sometime later two of the other people in the Ellison meeting decide to depart and show up at a small client/server startup responsible for something called the commerce server. We get brought in to consult because they want to do payment transactions, the startup had also invented this technology they call "SSL" ... the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce".
somewhat as a result of having worked on electronic commerce, in the mid-90s we get invited to work in the x9a10 financial standard working group that had been given the requirement to preserve the integrity of the financial infrastructure for ALL retail payments. We also get asked to participate in the Key Escrow meetings.
The x9a10 financial standard working group did detailed, end-to-end
retail payment threat & vulnerability study for the various kinds and
environments and eventually come up with the x9.59 financial
transaction standard. ... some references
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#x959
Part of the x9.59 standard is that it preserves the integrity of the
financial infrastructure with just end-to-end strong authentication
and doesn't require encryption. One strong authentication involves
digital signature and there brews something of disagreement between
public key digital certificate based infrastructures and
certificate-less infrastructures (digital signatures that don't
require digital certificates)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#certless
Part of the issue is SSL has been a digital certificate infrastructure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#sslcert
and Certification Authorities have been pushing digital certificates
for everything. They had a $20B/annum business case floating around
wallstreet ... selling digital certificates to individuals at
$100/person/annum. The issue for payments was that digital
certificates represented a 100 times payload bloat (aka appending a
digital certificate to a payment transaction increased the payload size by
100 times) ... as well as increased backend processing by 100 times
(which we periodically demonstrated were redundant and superfluous):
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#bloat
internet-only toy implementations had been doing the digital certificate stuff at internet boundary and then generating standard payment transaction setting a special/single bit claiming digital certificate processing had been performed. there was also a special fee reduction for transactions come through with the bit set. later there were industry presentations about significant number of transactions coming through with the "certificate" bit set where they went through the trouble of prooving that no digital certificate processing actually occurred (just got reduced transaction fee).
we also got brought in to help wordsmith the cal. electronic signature
legislation ... where the certificate authority industry had been
heavily lobbying wanting all digital signatures to be mandated to have
corresponding digital certificate
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#signature
As an aside, the major use of SSL in the world today is hiding electronic commerce payment transactions while in-transit. X9.59 standard eliminated the threat/vulnerability of evesdropping attacks ... it eliminated crooks being able to use information from x9.59 transactions for fraudulent transactions. This then eliminates most the need for SSL in the world today. However, it also eliminates crooks being able to use the same information from data breaches for fraudulent transactions (which is the major threat from such data breaches events so far) ... i.e. no longer need to hide either transaction "in-flight" or "at-rest".
In the key escrow meetings ... for public key infrastructure, things started out mandating that all private keys (of the public/private key pair) be escrowed/registered. We got through that is a violation of security standards when the public keys are purely used for authentication (having somebody's private key allows impersonation). We go for a rule that authentication private keys are never divulged (including for key escrow).
That leaves keys used for encrypting "data-in-flight" and encrypting "data-at-rest". We conceed that when corporation has employees always encrypting data-at-rest (as countermeasure to various kinds of industrial espionage, data breaches, etc) ... then decryption keys need to be escrowed as a disaster/recovery (and no-single-point-of-failure) ... aka corporate assets (data) can be lost if there is some failure involving the corresponding decryption key. That just leaves the keys for encrypting ephemeral "data-in-flight". There is no corporate disaster/recovery for escrowing data-in-transit encryption. So the battle somewhat focuses on government evesdropping and possible corporate evesdropping regarding employees leaking corporate secrets.
Now we are also encounter intersection between certificate-less (and non-escrowed) public key authentication and requirement for digital certificates. Without explicitly saying it, there is no technology limitation with "authentication-only" public/private keys being used for encryption ... so there is a big push that mandates all digital signature infrastructures have digital certificates ... and software implementations would mandate all public key operations require digital certificates ... and never perform encryption operations when the digital certificate specifies authentication-only. Public key software would only perform operations for encryption when there is an associated digital certificate that specifies both enabled for encryption and corresponding private key has been escrowed.
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 17 Jan, 2012 Subject: Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes? Blog: Mainframe Expertsre:
trivia ... we tried to get approval to make an offer to the guy at Princeton that went to Amdahl. There use to be lots of informal corporate play in silicon valley ... I could discuss things about "GOLD" (for initials Amdahl Unix) before announce with Amdahl people. My brother was regional apple marketing rep and I could go to business dinners and argue over details of the MAC with the MAC developers, before it was announced.
Note that there was PC/IX for the ibm/pc AT&T unix port done by
company hired by IBM. When the ROMP displaywriter follow-on was
canceled by IBM, they looked around and decided to retarget it for the
unix workstation market .... and hired the company that had done PC/IX
to do AIX for PC/RT.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801
The Palo Alto group was working with Berkeley on BSD (a unix variation) port for 370 ... that then got redirected to PC/RT port and was announced as "AOS" (as an alternative to AIX). The Palo Alto group was also working with UCLA on Locus (a unix work alike with distributed filesystem as well as distributed execution) ... which was running on vax, series/1, 68000. They then got directed to do a LOCUS port to 370 and 386 which was announced as aix/370 and aix/386 (could transparently do files and processes between 370 & 386 ... sort of unix flavor of significantly enhanced SAA). AIX/370 was then extended to AIX/ESA.
The other UNIX work-alike from the period was MACH at CMU. IBM had started out funding the group at CMU with $50M ... and out of it came MACH, Camelot and various Andrew things. Camelot gets spun off to Transarc and then Transarc eventually bought by IBM (I refer to IBM having paid 3 times, originally funding, transarc spin-off seed funding, and then buying transarc) ... sort of non-mainframe CICS.
In the looming battle with SUN/AT&T over unix .... OSF was formed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_wars
it uses bits and pieces of andrew stuff, mach and locus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Software_Foundation
note also mach is picked up as basis for NeXT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXT_Computer
which then morphs into basis for Apple OS
The original relational/SQL implementation was done at SJR on vm/145
... misc. past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr
there is then technology transfer to Endicott where it is released as
SQL/DS. All this happens under the radar of the strategic corporate
DBMS activity ... which was doing EAGLE. When EAGLE effort
crash&burns, the System/R group is asked how fast could they turn out
a MVS version. This becomes DB2 which is originally released for
decision support&analytics ... not for transactions. some of it
related in this reunion.
http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/SQL_Reunion_95/sqlr95-SQL_DS.html
Part of RDBMS is normalization, which is an extremely human intensive and complex operation ... especially for more than a few number things. Surveys in 90s of corporations that had moved to RDBMS infrastructure ... found large corporations with over 6000 different RDBMS ... claiming >90% commonality of data across the different RDBMS ... aka it was easier to make a subset copy of some other departmental RDBMS ... eliminate the unneeded things and had a few new things ... than the enormous effort to do a global normalization ... aka RDBMS is very good for targeted, mission specific operations ... but quickly becomes enormously complex past a certain level.
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 17 Jan, 2012 Subject: Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes? Blog: Mainframe Expertsre:
unix wars wiki has BSD->next ... not mach, and fails to mention both (CMU) mach and (UCLA) locus.
There was another mainframe effort for internal AT&T ... which was port of AT&T unix to a stripped down TSS/370 kernel. While TSS/360 for 360/67 was decommitted (and most 360/67 ran virtual machine cp/67), the project limped along and there was port from 360/67 to 370 ... becoming TSS/370. There was effort for internal AT&T with stripped down TSS/370 kernel (SSUP) with unix running on top.
Note that one of the IBM HASP people had developed an alternative virtual memory operating system (to dos/vs, vs1, svs) called RASP ... being able to run os/360 applications. RASP never went anywhere and the person leaves IBM and joins Amdahl and does a project that recreates RASP (IBM takes legal action claiming it was IBM property but could only find small number of very trivial pieces of code that resembles the implementation done at IBM). Internal Amdahl has some politics between the "GOLD" group and the "RASP" group (whatever it was being called at Amdahl). I suggest that they try and do a SSUP/UNIX approach ... stripped down RASP kernel with UNIX built on top.
The IMS wiki page references large percentage of (mainframe)
transactions in the world are IMS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Information_Management_System
from above:
In fact, much of the world's banking industry relies on IMS, including
the U.S. Federal Reserve. For example, chances are that withdrawing
money from an automated teller machine (ATM) will trigger an IMS
transaction.
... snip ...
Just FEDWIRE (IMS) alone is settling enormous amount of money every
night
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearing_%28finance%29
from above:
In 2003, the Reserve Banks processed 123 million Fed-wire payments
having a total value of $436.7 trillion.
... snip ... and ...
In 2003, the Fedwire Securities Service processed 20.4 million
securities transfers with a value of $267.6 trillion.
... snip ... and ...
In 2003, the Reserve Banks processed 6.5 billion ACH payments with
a value of $16.8 trillion.
random trivia: my wife got con'ed into going to POK to be in charge of
loosely-coupled architecture ... where she created peer-coupled shared
data architecture ... which saw little uptake until sysplex ... except
for IMS hot-standby. In the late 90s, guy running FEDWIRE was claiming
IMS hot-standby was major reason that FEDWIRE had 100% availability
(he also mentioned that was one of the reasons he could resist the
enormous pressure to move off mainframe platform).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#shareddata
random other trivia ... when Jim was leaving for Tandem ... he was
palming some amount of stuff on me ... talking to customers running
System/R as well as DBMS consulting to the IMS group. misc. past
posts mentioning original sql/relational implementation:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr
FEDWIRE is single application running on multiple IMS hot-standby ... ACH on FEDWIRE has the largest number of transactions ... 6.5b/yr ... or around 25m/(business-day) ... swamps the others in number of transactions. However fedwire payments are over 20times ach payments in yearly dollar value ... approaching $2T/(business-day).
The aggregate transaction value per application is highly skewed ... very few applications doing the majority of the transaction value ... which then drops off very quickly ... so relatively few applications converted radically reduces the aggregate value processed on mainframes.
mainframe DB2 to non-mainframe RDBMS is relatively straight-forward port ... by comparison mainframe IMS to RDBMS is significantly more difficult ... regardless of whether it is to mainframe RDBMS or to non-mainframe RDBMS.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Reject gmail Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:31:35 -0500Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
a little backtrack ... when NSFNET backbone RFP was released, internal politics prevented us from bidding; the director of NSF attempted to help by writing the corporation a letter (copying the CEO, there were references to what we already had running in HSDT was at least five years ahead of all bid responses to build something new) ... which just aggravated the internal politics.
part of the internal politics spreading misinformation about how
SNA/VTAM could be used for the internal network ... some old email refs:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#email870302
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#email870306
as well as NSFNET backbone ... old email ref:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email870109
some of the executives involved in above were also involved in the later activity related to transfer of cluster scale-up.
Later, I also antigonized communication group by joining the XTP
technical advisery board ...
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006i.html#email890901
other old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#email881113
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#email890424
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#email911004
misc. past posts mentioning XTP (&/or OSI)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#xtphsp
misc. past posts mentioning nsfnet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet
msic. past posts mentioning internal network
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 18 Jan, 2012 Subject: Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes? Blog: Mainframe Expertsre:
Remember, I wasn't at Amdahl ... I was at IBM San Jose Research
... but lots of people talked to me ... like after baybunch meetings
(held at SLAC) frequently Oasis or Dutch Goose. I gave a talk on
having done a lot of work on ECPS originally for 138/148 ... reference
here in old post:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#21
and the people working on hypervisor implementation would talk about similarities and differences (this is before hypervisor was announced). Silicon valley was little less formal back when. My brother was regional apple marketing rep ... when he was in town, I could go to business dinners and argue with the MAC developers ... before the MAC was announced.
Here is post about a number of mainframe historical things from the
70s ... including reference to the internal RASP effort
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#73
other trivia (CMU) Andrew filesystem being used for as/400 development
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#email881027
in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#33
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 18 Jan, 2012 Subject: Regulatory Agency logo Blog: Google+re:
Logo for federal regulatory agencies ... based on account in "Age of
Greed" and recent FED meeting minutes.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Hear_speak_see_no_evil_Toshogu.jpg
recent posts mentioning FED meeting minutes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#48 Fed's image tarnished by newly released documents
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#54 Report: Fed Officials Joked About Housing Crisis
"Age of Greed"
https://www.amazon.com/Age-Greed-Triumph-Finance-ebook/dp/B004DEPF6I/
GAO possibly didn't think SEC was doing anything and started doing
reports about problem public company financial filings (even showing
uptic after Sarbanes-Oxley)
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-06-1079sp
Also, person that testified in Congressional Madoff hearings that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff.
misc. past references:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#96 Bush - place in history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#25 IBM's 2Q2008 Earnings
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#25 The recently revealed excesses of John Thain, the former CEO of Merrill Lynch, while the firm was receiving $25 Billion in TARP funds makes me sick
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#36 A great article was posted in another BI group: "To H*** with Business Intelligence: 40 Percent of Execs Trust Gut"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#48 The blame game is on : A blow to the Audit/Accounting Industry or a lesson learned ???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#49 US disaster, debts and bad financial management
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#52 What has the Global Financial Crisis taught the Nations, it's Governments and Decision Makers, and how should they apply that knowledge to manage risks differently in the future?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#53 Credit & Risk Management ... go Simple ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#54 In your opinion, which facts caused the global crise situation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#73 What can we learn from the meltdown?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#80 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#0 Audit II: Two more scary words: Sarbanes-Oxley
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#20 Decision Making or Instinctive Steering?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#29 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#0 PNC Financial to pay CEO $3 million stock bonus
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#3 Congress Set to Approve Pay Cap of $500,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#37 NEW SEC (Enforcement) MANUAL, A welcome addition
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#42 Bernard Madoff Is Jailed After Pleading Guilty -- are there more "Madoff's" out there?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#47 Bernard Madoff Is Jailed After Pleading Guilty -- are there more "Madoff's" out there?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#61 Quiz: Evaluate your level of Spreadsheet risk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#62 Is Wall Street World's Largest Ponzi Scheme where Madoff is Just a Poster Child?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#63 Do bonuses foster unethical conduct?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#73 Should Glass-Steagall be reinstated?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#36 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#37 How do you see ethics playing a role in your organizations current or past?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#53 Are the "brightest minds in finance" finally onto something?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#2 CEO pay sinks - Wall Street Journal/Hay Group survey results just released
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#29 What is the real basis for business mess we are facing today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#51 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#67 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#7 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#29 Transparency and Visibility
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#33 Treating the Web As an Archive
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#17 REGULATOR ROLE IN THE LIGHT OF RECENT FINANCIAL SCANDALS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#60 In the USA "financial regulator seeks power to curb excess speculation."
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#12 IBM identity manager goes big on role control
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#30 An Amazing Document On Madoff Said To Have Been Sent To SEC In 2005
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#71 "Rat Your Boss" or "Rats to Riches," the New SEC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#47 Audits VII: the future of the Audit is in your hands
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#15 The Revolving Door and S.E.C. Enforcement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#16 The Revolving Door and S.E.C. Enforcement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#31 In the News: SEC storms the 'Castle'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#41 Profiling of fraudsters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#67 The Python and the Mongoose: it helps if you know the rules of engagement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#34 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#84 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#46 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#38 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#35 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#37 WHAT, WHY AND HOW - FRAUD, IMPACT OF AUDIT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#71 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#6 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#7 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#68 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#31 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#21 New-home sales in 2010 fall to lowest in 47 years
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#42 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#36 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#35 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#82 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#88 Court OKs Firing of Boeing Computer-Security Whistleblowers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#5 How they failed to catch Madoff
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#47 Lords: Auditors guilty of 'dereliction of duty'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#52 Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#66 Senate Democrats Ask House to Boost SEC Funding
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#67 U.S. can't account for $8.7 billion of Iraq's money: audit
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#11 Innovation and iconoclasm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#15 Is the SEC Covering Up Wall Street Crimes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#1 As Pressure Grows to Cut Spending, the True Cost of Weapons Is Anyone's Guess
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#33 Deloitte sued for $7.6 billion, accused of missing fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#1 Banks Awash in Cash, Which Isn't Good News
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#24 AMERICA IS BROKEN, WHAT NOW?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#30 Have you ever wondered why some people seem to get rich easily
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#49 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#80 How Pursuit of Profits Kills Innovation and the U.S. Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#0 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#9 The Dumbest Idea In The World: Maximizing Shareholder Value
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#12 Why are organizations sticking with mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#16 John Robb on the OODA-Loop
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#23 Security 2012: Blood in the Water
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#24 Case Study: SOX IT Compliance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#29 21st Century Management approach?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#92 Bank Failures Cost $88 Billion
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#110 Loan Originators
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#147 The Myth of Work-Life Balance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#1 The war on terabytes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#3 We are on the brink of a historic decision [referring to defence cuts]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#5 We are on the brink of a historic decision [referring to defence cuts]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#18 SEC v. Citigroup, How to Avoid (Greater) Disaster
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#26 What's your favorite quote on "accountability"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#30 Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#31 Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#37 Romney's Opponents Intensify Attacks as Voting Nears
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#40 Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#45 You may ask yourself, well, how did I get here?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#47 Avoiding a lost decade
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#57 The Myth of Work-Life Balance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#62 Railroaded
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 18 Jan, 2012 Subject: What's your favorite quote on "accountability"? Blog: Greater IBMfrom ibm jargon:
past posts in this thread
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#17 What's your favorite quote on "accountability"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#26 What's your favorite quote on "accountability"?
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 18 Jan, 2012 Subject: Chris Dodd's SOPA crusading Blog: Google+re:
Chris Dodd's paid SOPA crusading
http://www.salon.com/2012/01/18/chris_dodds_paid_sopa_crusading/singleton/
from above:
Chris Dodd's emphatic 2010 pledge not to lobby once he finally left
the Senate was prompted by widespread speculation that he spent the
last two years in office blatantly shilling for corporate interests in
order to ensure a prosperous post-Congress career.
... snip ...
then there is: Confidence Men pg 430:
But they were fighting on too many fronts. Carl Levin of Michigan and
Jeff Merkley of Oregon had discovered that Dodd had discreetly gutted
the Volcker Rule, and the two set to work trying to counteract Dodd's
efforts. The Merkley-Levin Amendment articulated Volcker's idea
fully--and wrote it as law. No regulatory backsliding, once everything
settled down.
... snip, and Age of Greed pg 370:
In addition, the Justice Department was now investigating reduced rate
mortgages Mozilo allegedly sold to Senators Chris Dodd of Connecticut
and Kent Conrad of North Dakota, as well as two former heads of Fannie
Mae, Jim Johnson and Franklin Raines. They were known as "Friends of
Angelo."
... snip...
Petition Seeks Probe of MPAA 'Bribery' Over SOPA:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/248552/petition_seeks_probe_of_mpaa_bribery_over_sopa.html
and "friends of Angelo", #1 on time's list responsible for financial
crisis:
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877339,00.html
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Reject gmail Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:18:40 -0500Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
i've mentioned this several times ... but it was also in this time-frame that senior engineer from disk division got a talk scheduled at the annual world-wide internal communication group conference ... and opened the talked with the statement that the communication group was going to be responsible for demise of the disk division (which has since come to pass).
the issue was that the communication group had stranglehold on the
datacenter and were protecting their dumb terminal and terminal
emulation install base ... they were strongly resisting anything that
smacked of client/server, intelligent clients, distributed computing,
etc. As a result data was fleeing the datacenter to more distributed
computing friendly platforms. The disk division was starting to see
significant sales drop (consequence of the fleeing data) and had
developed a number of products to address the problem. However the
communication group with its strategic "ownership" of everything that
crossed the datacenter walls ... constantly vetoed their introduction.
misc. past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#emulation
a couple other recent posts about the corporate downturn and going into
the red in the early 90s:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#20 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#45 You may ask yourself, well, how did I get here?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#57 The Myth of Work-Life Balance
past posts mentioning NSFNET backbone related stuff
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet
past posts mentioning hsdt activity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
much earlier, my wife had run into similar conflict after having been
con'ed into going to POK to be in charge of loosely-coupled architecture
(mainframe for cluster) ... where she developed peer-coupled shared
data architecture ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#shareddata
which saw little uptake (except for IMS hot-standby) until sysplex. She also had periodic battles with the communication group over being mandated to use SNA/VTAM for loosely-coupled (cluster) operation ... intermixed with temporary truces that she could use anything she wanted within the datacenter (but the communication group "owned" everything that crossed the datacenter walls). In any case, the little uptake and battles with the communication group contributed to her not remaining long in the position.
recent post mentioning IMS hot-standby:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#67 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 19 Jan, 2012 Subject: Where are all the old tech workers? Blog: Old Geekre:
Half Life of a Tech Worker: 15 Years
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/12/03/1435217/half-life-of-a-tech-worker-15-years
What I learned from Google - You Get Fifteen Years - Unchartered
Waters
http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/unchartered-waters/what-i-learned-from-google-you-get-fifteen-years/
some (recent) old tales
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#53 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#55 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#60 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#64 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#66 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#67 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#69
in this Mainframe Experts thread (over 500 comments so far)
http://lnkd.in/2syFGU
some discussion in this conference (on dependable computing)
https://web.archive.org/web/20011004023230/http://www.hdcc.cs.cmu.edu/may01/index.html
also mentioned in the "old geek" Deja Cloud thread:
http://lnkd.in/Gj_N63
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 19 Jan, 2012 Subject: VM sysprogs don't need the keys to the door locks Blog: Facebookold story about changing a bit in storage and turned off security
then there is:
https://web.archive.org/web/20090117083033/http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtml
long winded tale of ibm san jose research having vm/158 and mvs/168 in
datacenter with all DASD interconnected ... but strick operational
policy about separate/dedicated VM & MVS strings:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#56
One day a MVS pack was incorrectly placed on VM string and within 5
minutes datacenter was getting irate phone calls from users. Not all
of TSO horrible response is TSO's fault ... part of it is because of
MVS extensive use of multi-track search
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dasd
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: The PC industry is heading for collapse Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:02:28 -0500graph with unit shipped/yr
The PC industry is heading for collapse
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/the-pc-industry-is-heading-for-collapse/17828
the reference to flat-lining is with respect to growth which isn't quite the same as heart stop beating.
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 20 Jan, 2012 Subject: Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present Blog: Google+previous:
re:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102794881687002297268/posts/17wMauuyvnA
Part of the summary was that over the past 40yrs, CEOs increasingly diverted funds from R&D to improving short-term stock performance (including stock buybacks) as means of benefiting their compensation.
not limited to R&D ... also infrastructure maintenance ... anything that didn't reflect in short-term stock price
then there is:
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2012/01/charles-hugh-smith-you-cant-fool-mother-nature-for-long/
Age of Greed pg191:
By the time Welch left in 2000, GE Capital's earnings had grown by
some eighty times to well more than $5 billion, while the number of
its employees did not even double. It provided half of GE's
profits.
... snip and pg200:
He mostly stopped trying to create great new products, hence the
reduction in R&D. He took the heart out of his businesses, he did not
put it in, as he had always hoped to do. What made his strategy
possible, and fully shaped it, was the rising stock market--and the
new ideology that praised free markets even as they failed.
... snip ...
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 20 Jan, 2012 Subject: Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes? Blog: Mainframe Expertsre:
counter is mega-datacenters (many that likely have more processing power than the aggregate of all currently installed mainframes) and being able to carve out (batch) virtual supercomputer (subset of a mega-datacenter processors) ... relatively similar technologies used in supercomputers/GRID and the mega-datacenter/clouds
Amazon takes supercomputing to the cloud (42nd largest supercomputer)
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13846_3-57349321-62/amazon-takes-supercomputing-to-the-cloud/
has 240TIPS (or 240TFLOPS) on 17,000 cores ... for Amazon carved out batch supercomputer
upthread has estimate for 10,000 currently installed mainframes ... assuming that all 10,000 were maximum configured z196 at 50BIPs ... that comes out to upper limit on all currently installed mainframes aggregate processing power at 500TIPS
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 20 Jan, 2012 Subject: Bain: A consulting firm too hot to handle? (Fortune, 1987) Blog: FacebookBain: A consulting firm too hot to handle? (Fortune, 1987)
recent posts mentioning BAIN Capital, Age of Greed, and/or private
equity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#3 We are on the brink of a historic decision [referring to defence cuts]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#30 Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#31 Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#37 Romney's Opponents Intensify Attacks as Voting Nears
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#40 Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#45 You may ask yourself, well, how did I get here?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#47 Avoiding a lost decade
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#48 Fed's image tarnished by newly released documents
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#57 The Myth of Work-Life Balance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#62 Railroaded
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#70 Regulatory Agency logo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#72 Chris Dodd's SOPA crusading
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#77 Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Article on IBM's z196 Mainframe Architecture Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 20 Jan 2012 10:09:53 -0800David Kanter <dkanter@gmail.com> writes:
and recent post in linkedin Mainframe Experts:
http://lnkd.in/2syFGU
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#78
counter is mega-datacenters (many that likely have more processing power than the aggregate of all currently installed mainframes) and being able to carve out (batch) virtual supercomputer (subset of a mega-datacenter processors) ... relatively similar technologies used in supercomputers/GRID and the mega-datacenter/clouds
Amazon takes supercomputing to the cloud (42nd largest supercomputer)
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13846_3-57349321-62/amazon-takes-supercomputing-to-the-cloud/
has 240TIPS (or 240TFLOPS) on 17,000 cores ... for Amazon carved out batch supercomputer
upthread has estimate for 10,000 currently installed mainframes ... assuming that all 10,000 were maximum configured z196 at 50BIPs ... that comes out to upper limit on all currently installed mainframes aggregate processing power at 500TIPS
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The PC industry is heading for collapse Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:43:46 -0500Stan Barr <plan.b@dsl.pipex.com> writes:
at '96 spring MDC at Moscone, some of the redmond people were worried about the corporate revenue claiming that their model was everybody always upgraded to the latest version ... to get the latest features ... however, starting around mid-90s, 95% of the people had all the features that they needed/used ... little reason to continue with upgrading every version. the scenario was then switching over to the '60s annual new car mentality ... buying the latest w/o any real justification.
the corresponding PC hardware recently has been bigger screens, smaller screens, lighter laptops, longer battery, etc
misc. past posts mentioning '96 Moscone MDC:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#49 Virus propagation risks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003h.html#22 Why did TCP become popular ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#51 Specifying all biz rules in relational data
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#50 DOS C prompt in "Vista"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#18 Oddly good news week: Google announces a Caps library for Javascript
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#87 CompUSA to Close after Jan. 1st 2008
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#26 realtors (and GM, too!)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#66 What is the protocal for GMT offset in SMTP (e-mail) header
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#40 The Great Cyberheist
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#50 IBM and the Computer Revolution
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#18 John R. Opel, RIP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#59 The lost art of real programming
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#141 With cloud computing back to old problems as DDos attacks
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 21 Jan, 2012 Subject: Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes? Blog: Mainframe Expertsre:
I included TFLOPS in parens ... as side-point being mentioned in the article ... related to the primary point of the article listing the Amazon service as being able to carve out a subset of machines which would rank as the 42nd largest supercomputer (where TFLOPS, numeric intensive is important) ... also in parens.
The comment about a scheduler was in terms of scale-up ... not with respect to handling mix of different kinds of computers .... but being able to handle a supercomputer that was larger than if you took every mainframe installed in the world today and configured it as a single parallel sysplex .... still wouldn't be as large as the larger mega-datacenters and/or supercomputers.
The cloud computing mega-datacenters can be considered all sorts of commercial activity ... however, as the amazon article referenced ... the same processors can be used for commercial cloud computing (as 240TIPS) and as engineering/scientific (240TFLOPS) ... so the mega-datacenters have processors that are perfectly capable of playing in both commercial/business as well as scientific/engineering scientific.
Sort of the start of all this is referenced here ... where i was doing
cluster scale-up for both commercial/business ... as referenced in this
old post about early jan92 meeting in ellison's conference room
regarding RDBMS cluster scale-up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13
and this old cluster scale-up email from the same period
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa
which includes references to meetings with national labs and other institutions using the same cluster scale-up technology for scientific and numeric intensive.
within hrs of the last email reference (end of jan92)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#email920129
the cluster scale-up was transferred and we were told that we couldn't
work on anything with more than four processors. A couple weeks later
cluster scale-up is announced as the IBM supercomputer for scientific &
numeric-intensive only ... some press references
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters1 27Feb92
and some more press reference later that spring
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters2 11May92
And more recent reference in thread about "From the Annals of Release
No Software Before Its Time"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#43
about large cluster scale-up benchmark RDBMS comparisons on same clusterr scale-up platforms used for scientific and numeric intensive
I've sometimes conjectured that the cluster scale-up part of HA/CMP was
transferred and we were told we couldn't work with anything more than
four processors ... in part because the mainframe DB2 people had been
whining that if I went ahead with the RDBMS stuff, it would be at
least 5-10 yrs of where they were. misc. past posts mentioning HA/CMP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp
in that time-frame, I was asked to write a section for the corporate continuous availability strategy document ... however, after both Rochester and POK whined that they couldn't meet the objectives, the section was pulled.
for other topic drift ... misc. past posts about original
SQL/relational RDBMS implementation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr
For other topic drift see upthread references to original RDBMS work,
also archive here:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#66
Also see upthread references about my wife being con'ed into going to
POK to be in charge of loosely-coupled architecture where she created
Peer-Coupled Shared Data architecture ... but it saw little uptake
until sysplex (except for IMS hot-standby) ... contributing to her not
remaining long in the position ... archived here
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#67
other posts mentioning Peer-Coupled Shared Data architecture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#shareddata
parallel sysplex (april 1994)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Parallel_Sysplex
besides the RDBMS scale-up stuff ... some heavy duty numerical
intensive scale-up stuff
http://www.kamakuraco.com/Default.aspx
some more stuff in this google+ entry
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102794881687002297268/posts/Zwu2dKeWBsJ
note this company raised issue with wallstreet risk fairly early in the last decade.
after the bubble burst there were number of artcles about official wallstreet models failing ... since then there have been a lot more articles about business people forced the risk managers to fiddle the inputs until it came up with the desired result (GIGO) ... and/or business people just ignored the risk managers. Last week one of the TV business new shows had program on wallstreet needed to change and there may be the rise of the Chief Risk Officer that the business people won't be able to ignore.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The PC industry is heading for collapse Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:12:44 -0500Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> writes:
there is analogy to the auto industry ... autos use to require an enormous amount of care and feeding ... and numerous people were into working on cars as profession and/or hobby. however the majority of the people just wanted them for computer appliance ... reliability and quality significantly improved ... and there were lots of complaints that they didn't require as many service personal and it was much harder for the hobbiests to work on them. another is the car after-market industry was much larger than it currently is (large population adding their own personal touches to vehicles).
in the early part of the last century there were similar comments about both the auto industry and the telephone industry ... that their growth was capped by requiring professional operators ... autos requiring professional chauffeur/mechanic, and telephone requiring human operator to make a call).
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 21 Jan, 2012 Subject: Where are all the old tech workers? Blog: Old Geekre:
Rise of the internet in the 90s ... also predicted "distance insensitive work" and increase in telecommuting ... however "distance insensitive work" also applies to "off-shoring". ... "online at home since Mar1970"
some recent random internet folklore in alt.folklore.computer thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#63 Reject gmail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#65 Reject gmail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#68 Reject gmail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#73 Reject gmail
not just traffic lights ... I remember doing person-hrs per day directly tied to the effect of the coyote valley association getting the new 6lane 101 reduced to 4lanes through coyote valley ... the choke point in 3lane->2lane going north in the morning and corresponding 3lane->2lane choke point going south in the evening (which was just after the 85/101 merge ... already independently contributing to congestion).
silicon valley lab (in coyote valley)
http://www.nfbcal.org/~anordley/IBM/Air/SVL/
this also has GPD/disk plant site before it was sold off (and lots of
bldgs. demolished)
http://www.nfbcal.org/~anordley/IBM/Air/SSD/index.html
some silicon valley lab folklore ... lab was originally going to be named coyote lab ... following convention to name for closest post office. I was in washington dc slightly before opening of the lab ... and there were demonstrations in&around the capital bldg by organization of working ladies from San Francisco, called Coyote. Very quickly the lab was renamed to Santa Teresa Lab, for the closest cross street (more recently renamed Silicon Valley lab).
I was in silicon valley for a few decades:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=intersection+hiway+85+101+san+jose,+ca&hl=en&ll=37.222264,-121.786709&spn=0.13847,0.0951&sll=37.231285,-121.768169&sspn=0.138453,0.0951&vpsrc=6&hnear=California+85+%26+U.S.+101,+San+Jose,+Santa+Clara,+California+95138&t=h&z=13
above shows intersection 85/101, old plant site between monterey rd, 85, and cottle. It also shows Bailey rd where silicon valley lab is located as well as Almaden research.l Before Almaden was built, research was in bldg. 28 on the GPD plant site (one of the bldgs. that no longer exists)
i was officially in research and worked on a number of things like the
original SQL/RDBMS implementation ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr
but they also let me wonder across the street to bldgs 14&15 and play
disk engineer .. some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk
as well as do some projects in the Los Gatos VLSI lab (bldg. 29 ... on the other side of Almaden valley ... bldg. also no longer exists).
and I would get sucked into doing various other things down in STL
lab. One of my hobbies was also supporting the internal online
world-wide sales&marketing HONE system ... which had consolidated the
US datacenters up in Palo Alto. some past posts mentioning HONE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone
at one point somebody joked I worked a 4-shift week, 1st shift in bldg. 28, 2nd shift in bldgs 14&15, 3rd shift in santa teresa lab, and 4th shift (weekends) at HONE.
msrmaps.com still has older aerial photo from 1998 ... before the site was sold and started tearing down bldgs.
http://msrmaps.com/image.aspx?T=1&S=11&Z=10&X=1516&Y=10306&W=1&qs=5600+cottle+rd|san+jose|ca|&Addr=5600+Cottle+Rd%2c+San+Jose%2c+CA+95123-3696&ALon=-121.8040000&ALat=37.2495300
if i click on the above in linkedin ... linkedin claims it is bad URL ... however, if i copy/paste into the browser url field it works fine.
lower left hand corner is intersection of cottle rd & hiway 85 ... and bldg. 28 is still standing ... this is the old research bldg ... before they moved up the hill to the new almaden bldg. in the mid-80s.
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: IPLs and system maintenance was Re: PDSE Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 21 Jan 2012 12:31:22 -0800joarmc@SWBELL.NET (John McKown) writes:
i marketed ha/cmp against both system/88 and stratus in much of the
system/88 period ... past posts mentioning ha/cmp
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp
part of the marketing at the time was that stratus (and system/88) was purely fault-tolerant hardware .. but required scheduled system downtime and reboot for many types of software maintanance. For some customers with 5-nines availability requirement ... a century of outage budget could be blown with each annual maintenance scheduled outage.
ha/cmp didn't have equivalent individual system uptime ... but lots of environments, clustered operation masked any single system outage ... providing overall cluster availability much better than 5-nines. Individual scheduled system maintenance could be done with rolling outage of individual cluster members. Stratus responded they could configure for cluster operation ... but that negated the need (and expense) for real fault tolerant hardware (in all those scenarios that I was able to demonstrate clustered fault masking & recovery).
Somewhat as a result, I got asked to do a section in the corporate
continuous availability strategy document ... but after both Rochester
(as/400) and POK (mainframe) whined that they couldn't meet the
objectives, my section was pulled.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#available
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 21 Jan, 2012 Subject: Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes? Blog: Mainframe Expertsre:
recent reference/post to turbohercules in similar (migrate off
mainframe) thread in ibm-main mailing list:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#23
other turbohercules references:
http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/TurboHercules_vs_IBM
another reference:
http://education.sys-con.com/node/1350341
other pieces of the ibm-main mailing list thread
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#29 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#30 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#31 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#33 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#34 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#63 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#20 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#24
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The PC industry is heading for collapse Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 10:26:12 -0500Morten Reistad <first@last.name> writes:
there were a couple articles/programs that a number of (prominent/university) economists that they &/or their departments have (undisclosed) large grants from large corporations (and/or are consultants for), creating appearance of conflict of interest and/or bias.
I visited these guys in the last century when they were still housed in
state incubator quarters (converted grade school) ... they now have more
upscale address. Early in the last decade they raised issues on how
wallstreet was treating risk
http://www.kamakuraco.com/
one of their founders recent blog entries
Collusion and CDS Dealer Volume
http://www.kamakuraco.com/Blog/tabid/231/EntryId/362/Collusion-and-CDS-Dealer-Volume.aspx
The Credit Default Swap Market and Anti-Trust Considerations
http://www.kamakuraco.com/Blog/tabid/231/EntryId/371/The-Credit-Default-Swap-Market-and-Anti-Trust-Considerations.aspx
and has reference to level of transparency and visibility at DTCC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depository_Trust_%26_Clearing_Corporation
the above wiki entry used to also have big section about DTCC records
and illegal naked short sales.
https://web.archive.org/web/20080728143102/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depository_Trust_&_Clearing_Corporation
After working on financial transaction standards in the last century, I had been asked in to NSCC (before merger between NSCC & DTC) to look at improving integrity of trader transactions. After having worked on it for awhile, I was told that the work was suspended, that side-effect of the integrity work would have greatly increased transparency and visibility ... which apparently is anathema to trader culture (a number of recent articles about wallstreet is the antithesis of "open market")
this mentions over $700 Trillion in derivatives
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/ML14Dj02.html
also mentioned in this google+ entry
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102794881687002297268/posts/Zwu2dKeWBsJ
other recent (long-winded) comment about FED (and IMS hot-standby)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#67 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
there are a number of blogs that reference this graph/comparison ...
including this one:
http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2011/10/journal-why-the-us-middle-class-is-broken.html
a few recent posts mentioning above:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#1 The war on terabytes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#3 We are on the brink of a historic decision [referring to defence cuts]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#30 Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#45 You may ask yourself, well, how did I get here?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The PC industry is heading for collapse Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 11:45:47 -0500re:
there was a recent tv news program looking at prominent economists and whether they divulged that they and/or their departments were being paid by large financial institutions, were on retainers by large financial institutions and/or had grants from large financial institutions (and the implications for conflict of interest and/or bias)
Should We Trust Paid Experts On The Volcker Rule?
http://baselinescenario.com/2012/01/22/should-we-trust-paid-experts-on-the-volcker-rule/
recent posts mentioning Volcker (&/or Volcker rule)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#44 Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#72 Chris Dodd's SOPA crusading
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 21 Jan, 2012 Subject: Where are all the old tech workers? Blog: Old Geekre:
also from Strategic Intuition (which talks about strategic planning
permeates more than educational institutions) loc729-31:
Jomini's three steps of strategic planning are completely different
from von Clausewitz's four steps of strategic intuition. Yet both
authors claim to derive their steps from Napoleon. Can they both be
right? We can boil the problem down to a battle between two words:
objective and decisive. For Jomini, you win because you have greater
force than your enemy at the objective point. For von Clausewitz, you
win because you have greater force at the decisive point.
... snip ...
I use to sponsor Boyd's briefings at IBM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Boyd_%28military_strategist%29
... periodically Boyd referred to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingerspitzengef%C3%BChl
which has a lot of similarity to Clauswitz's coup d'oeil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d%27%C5%93il
misc. past posts/references about Boyd
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 21 Jan, 2012 Subject: Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes? Blog: Mainframe Expertsre:
low & mid-range 360 & 370s had native engine that ran vertical microcode emulating 360/370 ... very similar to hercules on i86. circa 1980, there was an internal effort to replace the large number of different microprocessors with 801/risc (family of Iliad chips) ... the follow-on to 4331/4341 was 4361/4381 which started out going to be 801/risc (with 801/risc software) ... the follow-on to s/38, the as/400 was going to be 801/risc ... as well as a bunch of other internal microprocessors were going to be 801/risc. For whatever reason, the effort floundered and things continued business as usual with cisc processors. The as/400 has mad rush effort to do a cisc processor in lieu of 801/risc.
Another 801/risc chip from the period was ROMP which was going to be used for the follow-on to the displaywriter, and when it was canceled ... they looked around and decided to use it for unix workstation market (as mentioned upthread).
Later Rochester was involved in somerset/powerpc effort ... and after a decade AS/400 moves from cisc processor to power/pc risc processor.
Note that this was to use fiber channel standard (FCS) in Jan1992
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13
however, in the 90s, there were some mainframe channel people started going to FCS standard meetings wanting to define horribly unnatural half-duplex stuff layered on top of base FCS fully asynchronous, concurrent bi-directional transfers. Much later the mainframe channel people come out with FICON on FCS. We had gotten involved in 80s with LLNL on transfer of some serial stuff into creating the fiber channel standard. basic idea was that as transfer rates went up ... end-to-end latency was becoming major bottleneck ... so it was time to change the old-time i/o paradigm to eliminate end-to-end synchronous latencies .... and run things asynchronously ... much more like full-duplex networking activity (over two decades now).
Cross over references from ibm-main mailing list have more on relative comparison of processor rates and i/o rates. Some of the z/196 comparison to low-end $500 boxes ... are somewhat analogous to taking high-end server boxes (several thousand dollars) compared to 360/65.
numerous examples ... even from ibm (including 8gb fiber channel)
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpapers/pdfs/redp4650.pdf
there have been a number of articles about ibm between rock and hard place ... that this roll-over the mainframe ... ibm can't really stay out of the market and leave it to its competitors.
as referenced in this ibm-main mailing list x-over post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#20
maxed configured z196 with 80 processors hits 50BIPS ... but an intel
core i7 clocks in at 177BIPS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second
more than three fully configured maxed out z/196 at 50BIPS each.
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 21 Jan, 2012 Subject: Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes? Blog: Mainframe Expertsre:
long ago and far away ... endicott con'ed me in to helping them on
microcode accelerator for the (370) 138/148 (follow-on to
135/145). The said that they had approx. 6kbytes of microcode space
available and the point was to identifying the 6kbytes of most
frequently executed kernel paths and migrate those instruction paths
into microcode ... getting 10:1 performance boost (aka 370 low-end &
mid-range avg. ten microcode instructions executed for every 370
instructions ... and kernel instructions moved to microcode went
nearly 1:1 byte). Old post showing part of the investigation that
measured kernel instruction path and sorted by frequency (kernel code
frequency was highly skewed)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#21
six kbytes of kernel code accounted for 79.55% of kernel execution.
This x-over post from ibm-main
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#23
references turbohercules wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurboHercules#Performance
estimated that running on 8-way Nehalem EX would yield simulated mainframe 3.2BIPS. The wiki doesn't give the exact processor ... but at 10:1 ... that would be a 32BIPS processor ... possibly about 1/6th the latest I7. I7 at 177BIPS and estimated 10:1 simulation ratio ... would yield 17BIPS 370. To be the equivalent of maximum configured (80 processor) z196 at 50BIPS would then require three such I7s.
For a little trivia x-over between supercomputers and electronic
commerce ... two of the people mentioning in this Jan92 meeting in
Ellison's conference room
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13
later leave and show up at a small client/server startup. At the end
of the Jan92, cluster scale-up is transferred and we were told we
couldn't work on anything with more than four processors ... and a
couple weeks later is announced as ibm supercomputer ... press
reference:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters1 17Feb92
old cluster scale-up email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa
which contributes to decision to depart. The two people from meeting in Ellison's conference room are responsible for something called the commerce server (at the new startup) and we are brought in as consultants because they want to do payment transactions on their server, the startup had also invented this technology called "SSL" they wanted to use; the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce".
As part of using "SSL" for electronic commerce we did some detailed threat & vulnerability studies about how "SSL" needed to be used and deployed. For various reasons the required use & deployment of "SSL" were almost immediately violated ... which is the behind many of the exploits and fraud seen since then.
Somewhat because we had done "electronic commerce" ... in the mid-90s,
we were invited to participate in the x9a10 financial standards
working group which had been given the requirement to preserve the
integrity of the financial infrastructure for *ALL* retail
payments. Detailed, end-to-end threat & vulnerability studies of most
of payment operations (brick&morter, ATM, internet, face-to-face,
unattended, point-of-sale, etc, aka *ALL*). This resulted in the x9.59
financial standard ... which address all the major exploits
... including data breaches of repositories of transaction information
(in large databases). X9.59 basically eliminates the ability of crooks
to take information from previous transactions for performing
fraudulent transactions. That eliminates the threat from evesdropping,
skimming, data breaches, etc (it doesn't eliminate them from happening
... it just eliminates the motivation for crooks since the resulting
information is no longer useful).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#x959
Now the major use of "SSL" in the world today is "electronic commerce" ... hiding details of financial transactions while being transmitted on the internet. x9.59 eliminates the need to hide the information ... so it also eliminates the major use of "SSL" in the world today.
In any case there isn't any security reason making SNA better than TCP/IP ...
XT-AT/370 was code name washington ... basically a couple motorola 68k that implemented problem mode 370 (about 80kips, roughly 370/115) plus a couple other features ... running a modified version of vm370. All I/O was communication between the vm370 kernel and cp/88 running on the intel processor ... all disk i/o (vm370 kernel, paging, cms filesystem, etc) was simulated on the PC disk ... for XT this was a 100ms/access disk (aka ten records/sec).
Initial washington only had 384kbytes 370 memory (for both vm370 kernel and application virtual memory) and my benchmarks showed many things heavily page thrashing ... which was further aggravated by 100ms/record operation. I got blamed for six month schedule slip in washington while they upgraded to 512kbytes (to mitigate page thrashing).
The other issue was that CMS operation tended to be relatively filesystem intensive ... compared to similar PC implemented applications (because of the difference in the environments, PC applications tended to be much more careful about doing disk operations compared to CMS coming from environment with much faster disks). That no longer plays a factor since mainframes now use the same disks that PC use (which have gotten significantly faster, real mainframe CKD disks haven't been manufactured for decades, being simulated on PC-technology disks).
Before that, there was an effort on the west cost/silicon valley to do software for the PC ... and regularly Boca was polled about whether they were doing software ... and every month they came back and said they were only doing hardware and would be perfectly happy with others doing software. Then at one point everything changed, saying they had to "own" the software and everybody that wanted to do anything had to move to Boca and join their organization. There have been snide remarks that Boca would prefer to sign an outside contract for software than have some other internal corporate organization involved (since outside contracts eliminated internal corporate politics & competition).
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 21 Jan, 2012 Subject: Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes? Blog: Mainframe Expertsre:
The big "mainframe is dead" was little later in the 80s (more about 386 time than 286 time) ... not so much just processor power. As I've mentioned numerous times, in that time-frame, a senior disk engineer got a talk scheduled at the annual, world-wide, internal communication group conference and opened the talk with the statement that the communication group was going to be responsible for the demise of disk division (and if anybody in the room was concerned about the comment, he would be happy for them to contact the CEO) ... which has since come to pass.
The issue was that the communication group had a stranglehold on the
mainframe datacenter and the disk division was starting to see big
drop off in sales as data was fleeing the datacenter to more
distributed computing friendly platforms. The disk division had
developed some number of products to address the problem (allow
mainframe datacenter to play prominently in distributed computing
environment), but they were constantly being vetoed by the
communication group (which had strategic ownership of everything that
crossed the walls of the datacenter) ... the communication group was
protecting its dumb terminal paradigm (along with terminal emulation
install base). some past posts on the subject
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal
The terminal emulation paradigm shows up in lots of different ways. The workstation division had developed their own 4mbit token-ring card for the PC/RT used AT-bus. For the RS/6000 follow-on, the microchannel bus was used ... however the workstation group was mandated that they use the PS2 microchannel cards. The PS2 16mbit T/R microchannel card had been developed for the terminal emulation paradigm with 300+ PS2s doing terminal emulation sharing same LAN. As a result the per-card thruput of the PS2 16mbit T/R card was lower than the PC/RT 4mbit T/R card (which had been design for high-performance distributed computing market). There were similar shortcomings in the PS2 graphics cards, PS2 SCSI disk adapter cards, etc ... the joke being if the RS/6000 had to use all PS2 cards ... it would run no faster than PS2 (for most things).
The new Almaden research bldg had been originally constructed with huge amounts of CAT4 assuming extensive 16mbit T/R ... however, they found that running 10mbit ethernet over CAT4 ... with commodity 10mbit ethernet cards ... had lower latency, approx same aggregate per LAN segment thruput and much higher per LAN card thruput. They also configured the CAT4 into multiple LAN segments with commodity routers ... so that typical environment that would have had single 16mbit T/R instead had possibly 20-30 independent 10mbit LAN segments ... resulting in 20-30 times available aggregate bandwidth for the environment.
In that time-frame we had come up with 3-tier architecture and
"middle-layer" and out pitching to corporate senior executives (as
well as writing into large fed. gov. response). The Almaden-like
configuration combination of multiple (20) lan segments, commodity
routers and 300 ethernet cards ... were about the same cost as 300 T/R
cards (aka LAN environment that was also 20 times better
price/performance). We taking lots of hits from the communication
group and the T/R people. Misc. past posts mentioning 3-tier
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#3tier
AMEX, Private Equity, IBM related Gerstner posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
The IBM/PC got a big boost by selling into the terminal emulation market ... no-brainer for business switching from already justified 3270 terminal to ibm/pc at approx. the same cost. When the market started moving beyond terminal emulation to distributed computing ... the company lost out ... especially as the communication group was doing everything possible to freeze time for the terminal emulation paradigm (and the customers just moved to other vendors).
Distributed computing includes client/server, 3-tier, as well as cloud. The communication group tried to freeze things in time with SNA and terminal emulation.
Part of the LAN story was that SNA didn't have a network layer ... and so couldn't do routers and had to fall back to bridges for different LAN segments ... as a result all LAN segments shared the same 16mbit T/R bandwidth .... as opposed to configuration with ethernet, tcp/ip and routers where each LAN segment had its own dedicated bandwidth.
The closest thing that SNA comes with network layer is APPN. At the time, the guy responsible for APPN and I reported to the same executive. The communication group non-concurred with the announcement of APPN ... and it was several weeks to escalate the announcement. Eventually the APPN announcement letter came out ... but it was carefully written to not imply any direct relationship between APPN and SNA. I would periodically hassle the guy responsible for APPN on giving up trying to help SNA and come over and work on real (tcp/ip) networking.
Note that while there are individual stories regarding migrations that worked and those that didn't work. However, in aggregate ... in the later half of the 80s, the disk division saw big drop off in sales as data was fleeing the mainframe datacenter to much more distributed computing friendly platforms. In the mid-80s, the top corporate executives predicted company would double revenue from $60B to $120B (based primarily on mainframe) and started big internal building program to double mainframe manufacturing capacity. However, that never happened, the mainframe business went in the opposite direction and the company went into the red in the early 90s.
Some of the pull back from the brink could be that the
wallstreet/financial community had lot of interest in not having any
disruption and continuing the mainframe operation as is. This is post
in (linkedin) Greater IBM (closed group) on the subject
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#57
where there are surprisingly small number of people involved. It references "Age of Greed" which has profiles on some number of the people involved (but the subject isn't the IBM recovery) ... as well as several more readily available wiki entries.
For another interesting take on the pull back from the brink see
Strategic Intuition:
https://www.amazon.com/Strategic-Intuition-Creative-Achievement-Publishing-ebook/dp/B0097D773O/
... it has section on four technology innovations/innovators:
Microsoft, Apple, Google, and Gerstner's resurrection of IBM.
The 3033 was looking at ways to compete with distributed & clustered 4341s ... which had ECPS carried forward from 138/148. The problem was that the 4341 was vertical microcoded machine with about 10:1 simulation overhead (native instructions per 370 instruction) ... aka dropping 370 into native gained approx. 10 times improvement.
The 3033 was ("high-end") horizontal microcode machine and was already approx. one 370 instruction per machine cycle. The MVS microcode assists on the 3033 had peculiar side-effect that there were situations where they could even run slower than the native 370 code (not simply same speed). There were various speculation regarding possible motivation for the 3033 MVS microcode assists (other than performance)
for other discussion regarding ibm/Amdahl comparison see this
reference
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm
Later people at Amdahl claimed that the "macro-code" mode (used for hypervisor implementation) was to simplify the difficulty tracking changes to architecture involving various microcode assists.
other recent posts in this thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#66 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#67 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#69 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#78 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#82 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#86 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#90 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#91 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 23 Jan, 2012 Subject: Where are all the old tech workers? Blog: Old Geekre:
I was at conference at Marine Corps Univ. last fall. One of the stories was about the helicopter parent generation .... parents constantly hovering over their kids to make sure nothing happens. The example was a bunch of young marines were given a scenario that they were in convoy of armored vehicles and got communication that enemy was up ahead with RPGs. They were asked what would they do, the response was get out and walk along side the vehicles.
do a web search ... there is also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter_parent
deadly fire by the enemy isn't limited to RPG ... its the reason for
the armored vehicles. And even for the RPG targeting the armored
vehicles ... there is going to be lots of damage in the region around
the vicinity of the vehicle. RPG countermeasures covering mesh that
results in RPG exploding just before contacting armor (dispersing
armor penetrating effects) IED countermeasures are sloped undersides
that disperses blast to the side. Being inside the vehicle increases
chances of survival ... next is not being in the vicinity at all.
other recent mention to conference at Quantico
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#49 Civilization, doomed?
I have a similar analogy for PCs on the internet. PCs during the 80s were either stand-alone and/or on small, safe, closed business networks. At the 1996 MDC held at Moscone in San Francisco ... all the banners were about supporting the Internet ... but the constant sub-theme in all the presentations was "protecting your investment".
The issue was that a lot of scripting applications had been developed during the 80s & first half of 90s ... including scripting code embedded in application files that would be automatically executed when the application file was loaded. This may have been satisfactory in the small, safe, closed business networks ... but translating that paradigm unchanged to the hostile, open anarchy of the internet w/o appropriate countermeasures was invitation for disaster.
I've frequently made an analogy of going out the airlock in the vacuum
of open space w/o a space suit. other recent posts mentioning the
analogy going out the airlock w/o space suit
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#77 ZeuS attacks mobiles in bank SMS bypass scam
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#40 The Great Cyberheist
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#19 E-commerce and Internet Security: Why Walls Don't Work
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#15 Identifying Latest zOS Fixes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#59 The lost art of real programming
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#141 With cloud computing back to old problems as DDos attacks
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 23 Jan, 2012 Subject: Bankruptcy a reprieve for some companies Blog: Google+re:
Bankruptcy a reprieve for some companies
http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/management/story/2012-01-22/bankruptcy-a-reprieve-for-some-companies/52745792/1
also mentions bankruptcy is strategy for dumping employees on:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pension_Benefit_Guaranty_Corporation
a couple past posts mentioning PBGC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#61 Health Care
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#91 IBM Unionization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#26 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#65 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#24 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#46 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#77 Favourite computer history books?
there was also investigative tv program about mortgage lobbying association that while it was having lots of press releases about individuals shouldn't walk away from mortgages ... they walked away from their mortgage (bldg in DC across the park from IMF and world bank).
and then there is
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2012/01/eagle-obama-pushes-hard-to-protect-big-banks-from-fraud-prosecutions/
references:
Obama Pushes Hard to Protect Big Banks from Fraud Prosecutions
http://www.moneytrendsresearch.com/obama-pushes-hard-to-protect-big-banks-from-fraud-prosecutions/
some more on banks & mortgages
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2012/01/josh-kilbourn-obama-to-use-pension-funds-of-ordinary-americans-to-pay-for-bank-mortgage-settlement/
references:
Obama to Use Pension Funds of Ordinary Americans to Pay for Bank
Mortgage "Settlement"
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/01/obama-to-give-banks-mortgage-get-out-of-jail-almost-free-card-pressures-state-attorneys-generals-to-capitulate.html
misc. past posts mentioning naked capitalism articles:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#26 Blinkenlights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#84 what was the idea behind Citigroup's splitting up into two different divisions? what does this do for citigroup?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#8 Do emperors from the banks have new clothes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#79 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#53 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#55 Who will give Citigroup the KNOCKOUT blow?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#65 is it possible that ALL banks will be nationalized?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#40 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#48 Civilization, doomed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#88 Fed Report Finds Speculators Played Big Role in Housing Collapse
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 23 Jan, 2012 Subject: Can anyone offer some insight Blog: Boyd Strategyre:
Ramachandran has done a more recent book "The Tell-Tale Brain: A Neuroscientist's Quest for What Makes Us Human" ... one of the areas is visual/eyes with three pathways into the brain .... oldest into brain section that predates human evolution, more recent into section of the brain that is more associated with human processing .... and a 3rd pathway into the brain that is somewhat more associated with emotional/faster processing. The faster/emotional possibly gives slightly faster reaction in danger situations (rather than waiting for more detailed analysis). He gives some number of examples of what happens when one of the pathways/processing is damaged but the other two are intact.
Strategic Intuition
https://www.amazon.com/Strategic-Intuition-Creative-Achievement-Publishing-ebook/dp/B0097D773O/
... spends some amount of time on how army has adopted Jomini's
strategic planning and contrasts that to Clausewitz's and then
loc767-69:
On the military side the coup d'oeil of von Clausewitz came full
circle in 2005, when the U.S. Army commissioned a study on how
strategic intuition applies to their current procedures. Sure enough,
the study found that Jomini's, not von Clausewitz's, steps still
dominate the army's formal methods of strategy to this day. Yet in
practice, officers in the field tend to apply von Clausewitz's steps.
... snip ...
with there being quite a bit of overlap between coup d'oeil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d%27%C5%93il
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingerspitzengef%C3%BChl
coup d'oeil has deep study/experience brings intuition that is somewhat more static sense ... while fingerspitzengefuhl has deep study/experience brings intuition that is more active sense. While OODA-loop includes the static sense ... fingerspitzengefuhl captures much more of the active sense that comes with OODA-loop.
All make the distinction that after all the strategic planning ... there can still be things that are unpredictable and requires agile/adaptable. I've mentioned before that there was story in silicon valley that the most common characteristics of silicon valley startups that survived more than a year or two ... was that they had completely changed their business plan at least once.
misc past posts mentioning finger feel:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#42 Zen and Connaturality
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#124 Fingerspitzengefuhl
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#144 Fingerspitzengefuhl
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#30 Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#89 Where are all the old tech workers?
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 24 Jan, 2012 Subject: Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes? Blog: Mainframe Expertsre:
before ms/dos there was seattle computer,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-DOS
before seattle computer there was cp/m,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Computer_Products
before cp/m there was cp67/cms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/M
kildall worked on cp67/cms at npg (gone 404, but lives on at the
wayback machine)
https://web.archive.org/web/20071011100440/http://www.khet.net/gmc/docs/museum/en_cpmName.html
npg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Postgraduate_School
cp67/cms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/CMS
note that the above mentions CTSS is common ancestor to a number of things.
above mentions first release may 1968, however three people came out
from cambridge science center the last week of jan 1968 and installed
cp67/cms at the univ. ... misc. past posts mentioning science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
During spring and summer of 1968 I managed to rewrite major sections
of CP67 ... and then did a presentation at the IBM user-group "SHARE"
meeting:
http://www.cbi.umn.edu/collections/inv/cbi00021.html
SHARE/GUIDE 27 Meeting, Oct. 28-Nov. 1, 1968 Atlantic City, New Jersey (Box 17, folder 7)
part of the presentation previously posted
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#18
misc. past posts mentioning cp/m name:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#5 small bit of cp/m & cp/67 trivia from alt.folklore.computers n.g. (thread)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#38 [REALLY OT!] Overuse of symbolic constants
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004h.html#40 Which Monitor Would You Pick??????
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#41 Is computer history taugh now?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#31 DEC and news groups
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#25 What if the computers went back to the '70s too?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#11 First successful PC OS?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#8 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#4 Rare Apple I computer sells for $216,000 in London
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#22 MS-DOS is 30 years old today
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#67 Wondering if I am really eligible for this group
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#72 CRLF in Unix being translated on Mainframe to x'25'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#89 Innovation and iconoclasm
recent posts in this thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#82 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#86 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#91 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#92 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 24 Jan, 2012 Subject: Is SSL Cert Holder ID Verification A Joke? Blog: Information SecurityIs SSL Cert Holder ID Verification A Joke?
from above:
Some complain that certificate authorities don't do enough to verify
identities for "domain-validated"
... snip ..
I've periodically pontificated in the past about how DNSSEC could be
used to eliminate much of the SSL CERT applicant verification expense
and trouble:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#catch22
... and lots of past posts mentioning SSL Certs:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#sslcert
Long ago and far away, we had been called in as consultants for a small client/server startup that wanted to do payment transactions on their server, they had also invented this technology called "SSL" they wanted to use; the result is now frequently referred to as "electronic commerce". As part of the use of "SSL" we had to do walk-thrus and audits of this new operations calling themselves Certification Authorities. We also established some requirements for use and deployment regarding server & client interactions ... which were almost immediately violated.
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 24 Jan, 2012 Subject: Google works on Internet standards with TCP proposals, SPDY standardization Blog: Google+re:
Google works on Internet standards with TCP proposals, SPDY standardization
http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2012/01/google-takes-on-internet-standards-with-tcp-proposals-spdy-standardization.ars
from above:
As part of Google's continuing quest to dole out Web pages ever more
quickly, the search giant has proposed a number of changes to
Transmission Control Protocol (TCP), the ubiquitous Internet protocol
used to reliably deliver HTTP and HTTPS data (and much more besides)
over the 'net.
... snip ..
I was on XTP TAB in the late 80s ... reliable transfer in minimum 3
packet exchange ... some past posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#xtphsp
I also wrote up rate-based pacing for XTP, used in HSDT ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
I've also suggested that server public keys can be resgistered in DNS
and served with ip-address ... so it would even be possible to do
lightweight public key operation piggy-backed within xtp minimum
3-packet exchange ... some references in these posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#catch22
recent SSL mention today
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#97 Is SSL Cert Holder ID Verification A Joke?
also here:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102794881687002297268/posts/EDEPzq12Q9e
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 24 Jan, 2012 Subject: Google works on Internet standards with TCP proposals, SPDY standardization Blog: Google+re:
some more from today
Google's SPDY Could Be Incorporated Into Next-Gen HTTP
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/01/25/027200/googles-spdy-could-be-incorporated-into-next-gen-
Google's SPDY Incorporated Into Next-Gen HTML, Offers TCP Enhancements
http://hothardware.com/News/Googles-SPDY-Incorporated-Into-NextGen-HTML-Company-Offers-TCP-Enhancements/
also in (linkedin) IETF:
http://lnkd.in/FCwpMR
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The PC industry is heading for collapse Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers, comp.os.linux.setup Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 11:07:55 -0500Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
still compatible wasn't exactly on purpose. In the early 70s, the
company started a project to completely replace 360/370 ... it was going
to be as different from 360/370 as 360 had been different from early
generations ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
misc. other web references:
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm
https://people.computing.clemson.edu/~mark/fs.html
https://www.ecole.org/en/session/49-the-rise-and-fall-of-ibm
https://www.ecole.org/en/session/49-the-rise-and-fall-of-ibm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Future_Systems_project
during FS, internal politics was even killing off 370 projects as competitive ... then after the demise of FS ... there was mad rush to get products back into the 370 product pipelines.
I had continued with 370 activity all during the FS period ... even
periodically ridiculing the FS efforts (which likely wasn't very career
enhancing). The mad rush to get stuff back into 370 product pipelines
contributed to picking up some of the stuff I had been doing and
shipping to customers. Somewhat related old email:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email731212
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750102
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430
part of the story is that the corporate distraction of the FS effort
(and killing 370 efforts) allowed for clone processors to gain market
foothold. Then some of the aftermath there was some activities possibly
directed at clones ... some touched on in this (long-winded) post
(changes that might not directly affect application programs):
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#92 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
other references are that top executives reacted adversely to the FS
demise which had long-term downside on corporate culture. Quotes from
Charles Ferguson and Charles Morris, Computer Wars: The Post-IBM World,
Times Books, 1993:
Most corrosive of all, the old IBM candor died with F/S. Top
management, particularly Opel, reacted defensively as F/S headed
toward a debacle. The IBM culture that Watson had built was a harsh
one, but it encouraged dissent and open controversy. But because of
the heavy investment of face by the top management, F/S took years to
kill, although its wrongheadedness was obvious from the very
outset. "For the first time, during F/S, outspoken criticism became
politically dangerous," recalls a former top executive.
... snip, and:
... and perhaps most damaging, the old culture under Watson Snr and Jr
of free and vigorous debate was replaced with sycophancy and make no
waves under Opel and Akers. It's claimed that thereafter, IBM lived in
the shadow of defeat
... snip ...
One of the other results was that almost all advanced-technology efforts
were killed off (filling the 2-5yr gap between advanced research and
immediate product ship) as the adtech people were thrown into the mad
rush to resume shipping something for 370. I've periodically claimed
that my spring '82 advance technology conference was the first since the
adtech efforts were disappearing in the wake of FS debacle. old
reference
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/96.html#4a
previous posts in this thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#76 The PC industry is heading for collapse
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#81 The PC industry is heading for collapse
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#83 The PC industry is heading for collapse
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#87 The PC industry is heading for collapse
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#88 The PC industry is heading for collapse
for other PC topic drift:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#96 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
before ms/dos there was seattle computer,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-DOS
before seattle computer there was cp/m,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Computer_Products
before cp/m there was cp67/cms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/M
kildall worked on cp67/cms at npg (gone 404, but lives on at the
wayback machine)
https://web.archive.org/web/20071011100440/http://www.khet.net/gmc/docs/museum/en_cpmName.html
npg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Postgraduate_School
cp67/cms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/CMS
note that the above mentions CTSS is common ancestor to a number of things.
above also mentions first cp67/cms release may 1968, however three
people came out from cambridge science center the last week of jan 1968
and installed cp67/cms at the univ. ... misc. past posts mentioning
science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
During spring and summer of 1968 I managed to rewrite major sections of CP67 ... and then did a presentation at the IBM user-group "SHARE" meeting: SHARE/GUIDE 27 Meeting, Oct. 28-Nov. 1, 1968 Atlantic City, New Jersey
part of the presentation previously posted
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#18
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 25 Jan, 2012 Subject: Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes? Blog: Mainframe Expertsre:
with respect to cp67 at the univ. ... as an undergraduate ... I was given responsibility for the production system ... a 360/67 run mostly as 360/65 with os/360. The datacenter workload was about evenly divided between administration/financial and academic/student. Over the years, some amount of the academic/student workload has moved off to non-mainframe machines ... which has tended to increase the percentage of business critical operations being performed by the remaining univ. mainframe datacenters.
this has universities by enrollment ... budget could reasonably be
assumed to range between several thousands/student/annum to several
tens of thousands/student/annum (as estimate to the size of their
business)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_colleges_and_universities_by_enrollment
recent posts in this thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#82 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#86 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#91 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#92 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#96 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: The PC industry is heading for collapse Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:18:21 -0500Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> writes:
past post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#7 Looking for a real Fortran-66 compatible PC compiler (CP/M or DOSor Windows
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#69 The first personal computer (PC)
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Google works on Internet standards with TCP proposals, SPDY standardization Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 13:16:52 -0500Google works on Internet standards with TCP proposals, SPDY standardization
from above:
As part of Google's continuing quest to dole out Web pages ever more
quickly, the search giant has proposed a number of changes to
Transmission Control Protocol (TCP), the ubiquitous Internet protocol
used to reliably deliver HTTP and HTTPS data (and much more besides)
over the 'net.
... snip ...
Google's SPDY Could Be Incorporated Into Next-Gen HTTP
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/01/25/027200/googles-spdy-could-be-incorporated-into-next-gen-
Google's SPDY Incorporated Into Next-Gen HTML, Offers TCP Enhancements
http://hothardware.com/News/Googles-SPDY-Incorporated-Into-NextGen-HTML-Company-Offers-TCP-Enhancements/
also in google+ post:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#98 Google works on Internet standards with TCP proposals, SPDY standardization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#99 Google works on Internet standards with TCP proposals, SPDY standardization
I was on XTP TAB in the late 80s ... reliable transfer in minimum 3
packet exchange ... some past posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#xtphsp
I also wrote up rate-based pacing for XTP, I used in HSDT ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
I've also suggested that server public keys can be resgistered in DNS
and served with ip-address ... so it would even be possible to do
lightweight public key operation piggy-backed within xtp minimum
3-packet exchange ... some references in these posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#catch22
AMEX, Private Equity, IBM related Gerstner posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
and related google+ post:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#97 Is SSL Cert Holder ID Verification A Joke?
Long ago and far away, we had been called in as consultants for a small client/server startup that wanted to do payment transactions on their server, they had also invented this technology called "SSL" they wanted to use; the result is now frequently referred to as "electronic commerce". As part of the use of "SSL" we had to do walk-thrus and audits of this new operations calling themselves Certification Authorities. We also established some requirements for use and deployment regarding server & client interactions ... which were almost immediately violated.
recent (long-winded) post mentioning intersection between supercomputing
and "electronic commerce"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#91 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
and for additional drift with PCs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#92 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
above also mentions Gerstner & resurrecting IBM ... for additional
recent posts on the subject
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#45 You may ask yourself, well, how did I get here?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#57 The Myth of Work-Life Balance
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 25 Jan, 2012 Subject: Can a business be democratic? Tom Watson Sr. thought so Blog: Greater IBMTom Watson Sr. Essays on Leadership - Democracy in Business
from a "The PC Industry is heading for collapse" thread in a.f.c.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#100
about the failure of FS project in the mid-70s caste long dark shadow
over the corporate culture for decades. Quotes from Charles Ferguson
and Charles Morris, Computer Wars: The Post-IBM World, Times Books,
1993:
Most corrosive of all, the old IBM candor died with F/S. Top
management, particularly Opel, reacted defensively as F/S headed
toward a debacle. The IBM culture that Watson had built was a harsh
one, but it encouraged dissent and open controversy. But because of
the heavy investment of face by the top management, F/S took years to
kill, although its wrongheadedness was obvious from the very
outset. "For the first time, during F/S, outspoken criticism became
politically dangerous," recalls a former top executive.
... snip, and:
... and perhaps most damaging, the old culture under Watson Snr and Jr
of free and vigorous debate was replaced with sycophancy and make no
waves under Opel and Akers. It's claimed that thereafter, IBM lived in
the shadow of defeat
... snip ...
lasting at least up until "resurrection" of IBM by Gerstner
... discussed in this book "Strategic Intuition":
https://www.amazon.com/Strategic-Intuition-Creative-Achievement-Publishing-ebook/dp/B0097D773O/
additional references in this recent a.f.c "Google works on Internet standards" thread
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#103
past Future System posts/references
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
I had sponsored Boyd's briefings at IBM ... and the linkedin Boyd
group tends to focus on leaders, management, decision making, and
characteristics of successful dynamic adaptive/agile
organizations. Today a discussion was started regarding this
management article as example of Boyd's OODA-loop and organic design
("Pushing decisions out to the ends of the graph, improving decision
cycles and removing those who impede the flow of information"):
http://people.wku.edu/rich.patterson/CFS-452/Readings/stayer.htm
Also, the first time I sponsored Boyd's briefings, I attempted to do it through the plant-site employee education department and they initially agreed. However, as I provided them with additional information (especially regarding OODA-loop and operating in a competitive environment), they changed their mind. The explanation was that IBM spends a huge amount on manager training in handling employees and they figured that some of Boyd's briefing could be counter-productive. They suggested that I restrict the people at Boyd's briefings to senior members of competitive analysis departments (implying they viewed manager/employee interaction as competition).
One could make the claim that the late 80s was a repeat of the FS scenario (as characterized by Ferguson&Morris) ... this time, the top executives in the mid-80s were predicting that the corporate revenue was going to double ($60B to $120B, over $250B in today's dollars) mostly based on mainframe revenue. As a result, there was a massive bldg. program to double mainframe manufacturing capacity. This was in the period that the business was already starting to head in the opposite direction (a few yrs later, the company goes into the red, requiring "resurrection" by Gerstner).
The late 80s, was also when a senior disk engineer got a talk
scheduled at the annual, world-wide, internal communication group
conference and opened the talk with the statement that the
communication group was going to be responsible for the demise of the
disk division. The scenario was that the communication had
stranglehold on the mainframe datacenter and the disk division was
seeing drop off in sales as data fled the datacenter for more
distributed computing friendly platforms. The issue was that the
communication group had strategic "ownership" of everything that
crossed the datacenter walls and constantly vetoed disk division
solutions to make mainframe an important player in distributed
computing (communication group protecting their terminal emulation
install base). misc. past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#emulation
references and past posts on Boyd, OODA-loop, dynamic adaptive, etc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html
AMEX, Private Equity, IBM related Gerstner posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Google works on Internet standards with TCP proposals, SPDY standardization Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:20:02 -0500Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
finger slip HSDT:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
also some past email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#hsdt
also a lot of the HSDT activity was concurrent with the activity leading
to the NSFNET backbone ... some old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet
aka TCP/IP technology basis for modern internet, NSFNET backbone operational basis for modern internet, and CIX business basis for modern internet.
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 26 Jan, 2012 Subject: Is it right for Google to "hijack" THINK from IBM? Blog: Greater IBMIs it right for Google to "hijack" THINK from IBM? Just came across their webzine
other GOOGLE hijack
Google works on Internet standards with TCP proposals, SPDY
standardization
http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2012/01/google-takes-on-internet-standards-with-tcp-proposals-spdy-standardization.ars
Google Works on Internet Standards with TCP Proposals, SPDY
Standardization
http://www.webmonkey.com/2012/01/google-works-on-internet-standards-with-tcp-proposals-spdy-standardization/
Google's SPDY Could Be Incorporated Into Next-Gen HTTP
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/01/25/027200/googles-spdy-could-be-incorporated-into-next-gen-
Google's SPDY Incorporated Into Next-Gen HTML, Offers TCP Enhancements
http://hothardware.com/News/Googles-SPDY-Incorporated-Into-NextGen-HTML-Company-Offers-TCP-Enhancements/
I was on XTP Technical Advisory Board in the 80s ... reliable transfer
in minimum 3 packet exchange ... some past posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#xtphsp
I also wrote up rate-based pacing for XTP, which had been used in HSDT
... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
and old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#hsdt
which had lot of overlap with activity related to what would become
NSFNET backbone ... other old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet
TCP/IP is the technology basis for the modern internet, NSFNET backbone was the operational basis for the modern internet, and CIX was the business basis for the modern intern
I've also suggested that server public keys can be registered in DNS
and served with ip-address ... so it would even be possible to do
lightweight public key operation piggy-backed within xtp minimum
3-packet exchange ... some references in these posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#catch22
related in this Google+ post: Is SSL Cert Holder ID Verification A
Joke?
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102794881687002297268/posts/EDEPzq12Q9e
Long ago and far away, we had been called in as consultants for a small client/server startup that wanted to do payment transactions on their server, they had also invented this technology called "SSL" they wanted to use; the result is now frequently referred to as "electronic commerce". As part of the use of "SSL" we had to do walk-thrus and audits of this new operations calling themselves Certification Authorities. We also established some requirements for use and deployment regarding server & client interactions ... which were almost immediately violated
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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) Date: 26 Jan, 2012 Subject: Before the PC: IBM invents virtualisation Blog: z/VMre:
Almost none of the normal internal vnet was satellite ... although I
had high-speed terrestrial&satellite links in HSDT project
... misc. old email mentioning HSDT project
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#hsdt
the internal network was larger than the arpanet/internet from just
about the beginning until late '85 or early '86 ... misc. past posts
mentioning internal network
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
and old internal related email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vnet
for other info ... this is old post includes list of internal
locations that added one or more network nodes in 1983:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#8
and picture of globe given out as part of internal network passing 1000 nodes in 1983
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#oldpicts
There was univ. network that used similar technology (that was used
for the internal network) called bitnet ... as well as equivalent in
the europe ... misc. past posts mentioning bitnet &/or earn
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet
old email from the person setting up EARN in europe:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#email840320
the xmas exec appeared on bitnet (and then possibly spread to the
internal network) entry from vmshare archive
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/browse.cgi?fn=CHRISTMA&ft=PROB
and mention in risk digest
http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/5.81.html#subj1
the xmas exec predating the (internet) morris worm by almost exactly a
year.
in '87, the communication group started mis-information to have the
internal network convert to SNA ... and significant amount of
resources was devoted to the conversion
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#email870302 ..
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#email870306
when it would have been enormously more cost effective to have converted to TCP/IP.
One of my hobbies was providing customized enhanced operating systems
for internal datacenters ... and one of my long-time customers was
HONE; back to HONE inception with cp67/cms (predating
vm370). misc. past posts mentioning mentioning HONE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone
misc. old HONE email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#hone
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Apple's China Manufacturing blasted Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:34:01 -0500Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> writes:
above have reference to picture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/38yellow.jpg
and shop manual for starter pedal/motor
http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/shop/1938/38csm251.html
when i was seven there was still a couple vehicles that had hand crank to start.
... and post from a couple days ago in another fora:
After freshman yr in college, I got summer job as foreman on construction crew putting up job corp camp in the rockies. winning bid was mobile home company in oregon ... they would do pre-fab sections that were trucked to the site and put together. Had approx. 30 people in three crews (one of the nearest towns was hemmingways old stomping ground ... another hamlet further up the gravel road had a noon shoot-out on mainstreet that summer). In highschool, I had worked for plumber that had subcontract for the project ... which possibly helped with getting the job (the finished plumbing for the bldgs were put in at the factory ... but there was a lot of site stuff that still had to be done).
somebody from the gov. had selected gradually sloping open area above flood level of nearby river. problem was that they weren't very familiar with local geography ... basically open area was because it was a swamp in the spring with massive surface and subsurface water flow from melting snows. I was fortunate ... that I didn't start until school semester ended ... after the initial site preparation work had been done that spring ... they eventually had to dig deep trench (>6ft deep) surrounding the whole site and fill with gravel to divert the runoff (this was in period when area was pure mud and the trench was constantly refilling with mud & water as it was dug).
one of the things that I had to do was manage a 3-4 day supply chain ... my list of stuff would be shipped/transported by placing in pre-fab sections as they left the factory. There were several dorms that were 10-section ... a couple classrooms that were 12-section and a few 3-4 section bldgs.
The site prep work had put the project behind schedule ... things started out 40hr weeks, then went to 60hr weeks and last month we were doing >80hr weeks.
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