From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: spacewar Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 23:57:28 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
recently there has been discussion in Boyd group about whether corporate
america was contaminating US military culture or the reverse.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#48 John Boyd's Art of War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#59 John Boyd's Art of War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#61 John Boyd's Art of War
Boyd would mention in briefings about former ww2 military officers
moving into corporate life was contaiminating US corporate culture with
top-heavy, rigid, top-down command&control infrastructure. However, "The
Path to Victory"
https://www.amazon.com/The-Path-to-Victory-ebook/dp/B00EHV3ADW/
spends quite a bit of time how the military was being contaminated by US
corporate culture ... almost tempted to describe it as adopting the
worst of each other in a race to the bottom, loc2353-55:
By the end of the second year, the zero-defects command climate had
generated a zero-learning posture. Errors being unacceptable, they were
denied and thus became unavailable as examples for improving unit
performance. Lying up and down the chain of command returned to its
high, Vietnam-era baseline.
... snip ...
then there is the whole merge of the MICC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 09:29:36 -0400jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
Barney isn't even on time's list of those responsible for
the financial mess ... number #1 on the list ... new breed
of mortgage institutions paying for triple-A ratings on
toxic CDOs.
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877339,00.html
banking committee deals with depository institutions with banking charter ... who were no-longer the major players in mortgages
mostly unregulated loan originators being able to pay rating agencies
for triple-A rating on toxic CDOs ... these loan originators were able
to use the toxic CDO process for source of funds and to unload
mortgages (weren't dependent on deposits as source for lending). none
of this was under banking committee. It had moved to wallstreet
non-depository, non-banking institutions. The $27T in triple-A rated
toxic CDOs came under the SEC regulatory authority ... which wasn't
under the banking committee. posts referencing toxic CDOs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
and #4 on times list of those responsible was head of SEC
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877323,00.html
Gramm was responsible for repeal of Glass-Steagall ... so the
too-big-to-fail came into being which involved the regulated
depository (banking) institution being able to have mostly unregulated
investment banking arms (not under banking committee). number two on
time's list of those responsible
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html
Gramm also did the thing preventing CFTC from regulating gambling CDS
(gambling CDSs were the other big player in the mess, along with toxic
CDOs) ... CFTC comes under the agriculture committee. Repeal of
Glass-Steagall didn't directly contribute to the financial mess
... it did allowed the unregulated investment banking arms of
too-big-to-fail to leverage deposits to play in toxic CDOs and also
put the depository institution at risk ... resulting in the
justification for the trillions of dollars that the federal reserve
pours into too-big-to-fail ... but that was after the bubble burst and
things hit the fan. recent posts reference that both Mr&Mrs were
involved in making sure gambling CDS stayed unregulated:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#49 Insider Fraud: What to Monitor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#41 Adair Turner: A New Debt-Free Money Advocate
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#73 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#28 Flag bloat
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#29 The agency problem and how to create a criminogenic environment
GLBA is now better known for repeal of Glass-Steagall ... but the
rhetoric on the floor of congress was that the primary purpose for GLBA;
if you already had a banking charter you got to keep it, but if you
didn't already have a banking charter you couldn't get one (this was
primarily focused on protecting the banking industry from competition).
Role forward to the bubble had burst and federal reserve handing out
trillions of dollars to depository too-big-to-fail ... federal reserve
gives out banking charters to some of the largest wallstreet
non-depository institutions ... which should have been illegal under
GLBA. past posts mentioning repeal of Glass-Steagall
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
enabling too-big-to-fail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
The person behind the trillions of dollar give-away to the
too-big-to-fail is #3 on times list
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877331,00.html
the above reference the ultra-low interest rates policy by the federal reserve ... this also shows up in the private equity business ... borrowing at ultra-low rates to fund take-over a company ... putting the loan on the company's book and then flipping the company (keeping all the proceeds as profit since the loan to buy the company, is transferred to the company) ... aided and abetted by offshore banking ... also not under banking committee
Treasure Islands: Uncovering the Damage of Offshore Banking and Tax Havens
http://books.google.com/books?id=u655GkaMkwgC&pg=PA216&lpg=PA216#v=onepage&q&f=false
pg216/loc4511-14:
Plenty of good firms have gone bust as a result of this offshore
debt-loading, which the New York Times in 2009 described as "a Wall
Street version of 'Flip This House.'" 48 More than half of the
companies that defaulted on their debt that year were either
previously or currently owned by private equity firms.
... snip ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/business/economy/05simmons.html
"Inside Job" gets into "captured" regulatory agencies (like SEC)
having major role in the economic mess ... but also gets into
the capture of major economic advisers as contributing ... including
after the bubble hit advice to wallstreet to put as many under
financial obligation as means of helping obfuscate and misdirect
away from those responsible
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Job_(2010_film)
the capture of economists is also covered in "Economists and the
Powerful: Convenient Theories, Distorted Facts, Ample Rewards"
https://www.amazon.com/Economists-Powerful-Convenient-Distorted-Economics-ebook/dp/B01B4X4KOS/
an example
Glenn Hubbard, Leading Academic and Mitt Romney Advisor, Took 1200 an
Hour to Be Countrywide's Expert Witness (reference to #1 on time's
list of those responsible) (gone 404, but lives on at wayback machine)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140504010711/http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/glenn-hubbard-leading-academic-and-mitt-romney-advisor-took-1200-an-hour-to-be-countrywides-expert-witness-20121220?print=true
recent posts discussing the private equity business (also not
under the banking committee)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#77 IBM going ahead with more U.S. job cuts today
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#87 IBM going ahead with more U.S. job cuts today
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#18 Louis V. Gerstner Jr. lays out his post-IBM life - Washington Post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#20 Louis V. Gerstner Jr. lays out his post-IBM life
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#26 Louis V. Gerstner Jr. lays out his post-IBM life
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#41 Is newer technology always better? It almost is. Exceptions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#54 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#61 Big Data Is Opening Doors, but Maybe Too Many
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#76 The failure of cyber defence - the mindset is against it
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#81 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#9 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#31 IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#74 How the NSA Manipulates Language To Mislead The Public
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#2 IBM Relevancy in the IT World
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#28 Flag bloat
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#29 The agency problem and how to create a criminogenic environment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#31 China mulls probe into IBM, Oracle, EMC after NSA hack claims - report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#57 The agency problem and how to create a criminogenic environment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#60 spacewar
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#61 John Boyd's Art of War
past posts mentioning times list of those responsible
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#38 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#39 'WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GLOBAL MELTDOWN'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#49 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#53 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#55 Who will give Citigroup the KNOCKOUT blow?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#65 is it possible that ALL banks will be nationalized?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#10 Who will Survive AIG or Derivative Counterparty Risk?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#28 I need insight on the Stock Market
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#61 Quiz: Evaluate your level of Spreadsheet risk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#62 Is Wall Street World's Largest Ponzi Scheme where Madoff is Just a Poster Child?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#63 Do bonuses foster unethical conduct?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#73 Should Glass-Steagall be reinstated?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#0 What is swap in the financial market?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#8 The background reasons of Credit Crunch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#13 Should we fear and hate derivatives?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#23 Should FDIC or the Federal Reserve Bank have the authority to shut down and take over non-bank financial institutions like AIG?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#35 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#29 What is the real basis for business mess we are facing today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#38 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#51 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#53 What every taxpayer should know about what caused the current Financial Crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#5 Do the current Banking Results in the US hide a grim truth?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#7 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#33 Treating the Web As an Archive
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#76 Undoing 2000 Commodity Futures Modernization Act
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#17 REGULATOR ROLE IN THE LIGHT OF RECENT FINANCIAL SCANDALS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#54 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#60 In the USA "financial regulator seeks power to curb excess speculation."
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#74 Administration calls for financial system overhaul
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#77 Financial Regulatory Reform - elimination of loophole allowing special purpose institutions outside Bank Holding Company (BHC) oversigh
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#21 The Big Takeover
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#30 An Amazing Document On Madoff Said To Have Been Sent To SEC In 2005
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#35 what is mortgage-backed securities?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#5 Internal fraud isn't new, but it's news
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#56 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#84 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#51 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#77 Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#82 Oldest Instruction Set still in daily use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#92 Who's to Blame for the Meltdown?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#54 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#28 Our Pecora Moment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#67 The Python and the Mongoose: it helps if you know the rules of engagement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#38 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#36 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#29 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#9 I actually miss working at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#36 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#38 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#40 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#52 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#25 US Housing Crisis Is Now Worse Than Great Depression
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#29 Obama: "We don't have enough engineers"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#8 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#18 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#19 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#41 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#30 Regulators seek to plug derivatives data gaps
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#53 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#54 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#69 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#74 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#2 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#41 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#49 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#77 Did You Hear the One About the Bankers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#62 Civilization, doomed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#72 Chris Dodd's SOPA crusading
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#95 Bank of America Fined $1 Billion for Mortgage Fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#5 Too big not to fail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#31 US real-estate has lost $7T in value
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#46 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#5 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#12 Gordon Gekko Says
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#13 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#16 IBM cuts more than 1,000 U.S. Workers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#57 speculation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#20 For He's a Jolly Good Scoundrel: On Sanford Weill
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#20 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#28 REPEAL OF GLASS-STEAGALL DID NOT CAUSE THE FINANCIAL CRISIS - WHAT DO YOU THINK?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#59 Why Hasn't The Government Prosecuted Anyone For The 2008 Financial recession?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#67 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#76 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#77 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#78 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#82 How do you feel about the fact that today India has more IBM employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#87 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#36 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#45 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#82 Interesting News Article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#94 Naked emperors, holy cows and Libor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#31 History--punched card transmission over telegraph lines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#38 Four Signs Your Awesome Investment May Actually Be A Ponzi Scheme
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#45 If all of the American earned dollars hidden in off shore accounts were uncovered and taxed do you think we would be able to close the deficit gap?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#58 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#59 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#47 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#55 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#0 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#4 HSBC's Settlement Leaves Us In A Scary Place
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#49 Insider Fraud: What to Monitor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#73 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#9 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#38 Adair Turner: A New Debt-Free Money Advocate
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#41 Adair Turner: A New Debt-Free Money Advocate
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#46 Bankers Who Made Millions In Housing Boom Misled Investors: Study
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#35 Ex-Bailout Watchdog: JPMorgan's Actions "Entirely Consistent With Fraud"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#70 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#73 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#76 IBM Spent A Million Dollars Renovating And Staffing Its Former CEO's Office
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#9 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#19 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#24 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#42 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#79 As an IBM'er just like the Marines only a few good men and women make the cut,
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#28 Flag bloat
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#29 The agency problem and how to create a criminogenic environment
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 09:50:33 -0400re:
25 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis; Who Deserves the Most
Blame?
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1878509_1878508,00.html
from above:
TIME's picks for the top 25 people to blame for the financial crisis
includes everyone from former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan
and former President George W. Bush to the former CEO of Merrill Lynch
... snip ...
Remember the president last decade responsible for the economic mess,
his father had been the point person in the 80s administration
responsible for deregulation and removing oversight enabling the looting
of S&Ls ... and his brother was player in one of the largest S&L
lootings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan
recent refs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#18 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#26 The agency problem and how to create a criminogenic environment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#29 The agency problem and how to create a criminogenic environment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#35 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#41 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#43 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#45 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#52 The agency problem and how to create a criminogenic environment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#57 The agency problem and how to create a criminogenic environment
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: A Brief History of Cloud Computing Date: 03 Sep 2013 Blog: Old GeekA Brief History of Cloud Computing
CTSS 7094
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatible_Time-Sharing_System
some of the CTSS people went to Project MAC and multics on the 5th
flr, others went to science center on the 4th flr and did (virtual
machine) cp40/cms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP-40
Comeau's cp40 paper
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/cp40seas1982.txt
which morphs into (virtual machine) cp67/cms (and later into vm370)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/CMS
above also mentions early spin-offs of science center started
offering commercial, online (virtual-machine) cp67/cms based services
... was also some of the early 7x24 work .... including non-disruptive
migration between systems in loosely-coupled configurations in support
of requirement to take systems down for hardware maintenance. past
posts mentioning commercial, online virtual-machine based service
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#timeshare
and then there was ms/dos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-DOS
before ms/dos there was seattle computer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Computer_Products
and before seattle computer there was cp/m
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/M
and before cp/m, kildall worked on cp67/cms at npg school (gone 404
but lives on at wayback machine)
https://web.archive.org/web/20071011100440/http://www.khet.net/gmc/docs/museum/en_cpmName.html
npg reference
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Postgraduate_School
also used by institutions needed high-integrity, high-security, online
access ... gone 404 but (also) lives on at the wayback machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20090117083033/http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtml
Grid Computing; Hook enough computers together and what do you get? A
new kind of utility that offers supercomputer processing on tap.
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/401444/grid-computing/
from above:
Back in the 1980s, the National Science Foundation created the NSFnet:
a communications network intended to give scientific researchers easy
access to its new supercomputer centers. Very quickly, one smaller
network after another linked in-and the result was the Internet as we
now know it. The scientists whose needs the NSFnet originally served
are barely remembered by the online masses.
... snip ...
since also morphed into cloud computing
as I've periodically mentioned, tcp/ip is the technology basis for the modern internet, nsfnet backbone was the operational basis for the modern internet and cix was the business basis for the modern internet.
originally we were to get $20M to tie together the NSF supercomputer centers, then congress cuts the budget and a few other things happened, finally NSF released an RFP. Internal politics prevents us from bidding on the RFP. The director of NSF tries to help by writing the company a letter 3Apr1986, NSF Director to IBM Chief Scientist and IBM Senior VP and director of Research, copying IBM CEO) ... but that just makes the internal politics worse (as does references like what we already have running is at least five years ahead of all RFP responses).
misc. past NSFNET related email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet
past posts mentioning NSFNET
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet
And early "GRID" computing ... some old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa
working with both the national labs as well as commercial for large
number of processors in large number of racks. Within hrs after the
last email in above (end Jan1992) ... the cluster scale-up was
transferred and we were told we couldn't work on anything with more
than four processors. Within a couple weeks, it was then announced as
supercomputer for numerical intensive and scientific *ONLY* ... old
press from 17Feb1992
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters1
to add insult to injury ... 11May1992, interest in cluster caught
company by *surprise*
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters2
more archeological trivia
old email about doing vm/4341 national lab benchmark, they were looking at
getting 70 systems for compute farm ... sort of early GRID-computing
precursor and alternative to large monolithic supercomputers.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email790220
the big explosion in vm/4341 systems was also major reason that the
internal network passed 1000 nodes in 1983 ... old post with list of
corporate locations that had one or more new nodes added during 1983
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#8
other old email about the 1983 1000 node event
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#email830422
co-worker at the science center responsible for the internal network
technology (internal network larger than the arpanet/internet from
just about the beginning until sometime late '85 or early '86)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks
also used for the univ. bitnet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BITNET
past posts mentioning internal network
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
past posts mentioning bitnet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet
post with reference to commercial cluster scale-up meeting in Ellison's
conference room early Jan1992 (before cluster scale-up was transferred
and we were told we couldn't work on anything with more than four
processors)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13
two people in that meeting later leave and join a small silicon valley client/server startup. after cluster scale-up transfers and we are told we can't work on anything with more than four processors, we also decide to leave. We are later brought in as consultants to the client/server startup because they want to do payment transactions on the server; the startup had also invented some technology they call "SSL" they want to use. We work on mapping "SSL" technology to the payment transaction business processes ... some people may recognize it; it is now frequently called "electronic commerce".
past posts mentioning ha/cmp
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: A Brief History of Cloud Computing Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 15:25:54 -0400A Brief History of Cloud Computing
I posted some comments (currently awaiting moderation) and
x-posted reference to linkedin Old Geek (with comments)
http://lnkd.in/MbiakK
also archived here
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#3 A Brief History of Cloud Computing
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 16:30:15 -0400re:
other bizarre
The Super Rich and The Inverse Ratio of Political Power
http://johnhively.wordpress.com/2013/09/03/the-super-rich-and-the-inverse-ration-of-political-power/
400 taxpayers with highest incomes, 1992-2007, avg income up 392%, average tax rate down 37%
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: spacewar Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 17:20:25 -0400Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> writes:
in "The Path to Victory" ... there was so much on fitreps/OERs, it was
hard to choose ... one example loc2807-9:
As before, OERs became excessively inflated as raters and senior raters
tried to protect their subordinates by giving them the best possible
ratings. In many cases they did not possess the moral to give
subordinates an honest evaluation. This was compounded by a decision not
to replace the eighth version of the OER at the beginning of the
drawdown.
and loc5428-30:
During the campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan, promotion rates to major
were above 90%, sometimes up to 99%, with the force making remarks
such as "leave no captain behind" or "to not get promoted to major
means you committed a felony, otherwise, everyone gets promoted."
... snip ...
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 22:39:45 -0400Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> writes:
i didn't exactly say Barney wasn't involved ... however there was $27T done through wallstreet ... not the GSEs and unrelated to Barney's time as committee chairman.
Buffett was the largest fannie mae shareholder in 2000 and then got completely out of GSEs (claims were because of their accounting methods ... cooking the books to make stock price better to give top executives bigger bonuses). fannie mae fined $400M and the top executive replaced
CBS had segment in the early part of the last decade that Fannie had
more lobbyists on its payroll than employees. There were claims that
everybody that was in way connected to current or former members of
congress as well as all former members of congress ... were all
automatically offered $20k/annum lobbying retainer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fannie_Mae
from above
Then in 2003-2004, the subprime mortgage crisis began.[31] The
market shifted away from regulated GSE's and radically toward Mortgage
Backed Securities (MBS) issued by unregulated private-label
securitization conduits, typically operated by investment banks.
... snip ...
however above doesn't mention the $400M fine
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/24/AR2006052400631_pf.html
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/industries/banking/2006-05-22-fannie-mae_x.htm
GSEs had lots of mortgages that predated the $27T in triple-A rated toxic CDOs done through wallstreet ... and there was lots of collateral damage in the real-estate market with the crash.
Barny became committee chairman just as the economic mess was starting
to break ... so he could have hardly caused the problem from his
chairman position ... and lots of the economic mess fraud didn't even
come under the scope of his committee
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_Frank
in fact, above account has his tenure as committee chaiman promoting strong reform ... and Barney isn't even on time's list of 25 responsible.
as previously mentioned there is enormous amount of obfuscation and misdirection away from the parties responsible ... as well as lots of money been paid to people to help with the obfuscation and misdirection
not to say that other wrong doing should be condoned ... but hundreds of
millions or a few billion, won't even show up as a blip on the $27T
problem.
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-27/evil-wall-street-exports-boomed-with-fools-born-to-buy-debt
the GSE cooking the books is similar to ENRON&WORLDCOM scenario to
increase executive bonuses
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
that Sarbanes-Oxley was suppose to fix.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
However, Sarbanes-Oxley depended on SEC for enforement ... but SEC is at top of list of "captured" regulatory agencies ... and the head of SEC last decade is #4 on time's list of those responsible for the financial mess. Seen on the internet: ENRON was dry run and worked so well that it has become institutionalized
GAO apparently didn't even think SEC was doing anything and started
doing reports of public company fraudulent financial filings ... which
Sarbanes-Oxley was claimed to guarantee that the executives and auditors
would do jail time (assuming SEC was enforcing Sarbanes-Oxley). The GAO
reports that there was even uptic in public company fraudulent financial
filings after Sarbanes-Oxley ... and nobody is doing jail time.
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-03-395R
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-06-678
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-06-1079sp
past posts mentioning fannie
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#25 Translation of IBM Basic Assembler to C?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#59 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#1 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#9 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#19 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#44 SEC bans illegal activity then permits it
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#71 Cormpany sponsored insurance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#75 Fraud due to stupid failure to test for negative
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#76 When risks go south: FM&FM to be nationalized
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#77 Fraud due to stupid failure to test for negative
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#78 When risks go south: FM&FM to be nationalized
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#85 Fraud due to stupid failure to test for negative
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#0 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#2 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#10 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#78 Isn't it the Federal Reserve role to oversee the banking system??
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#43 The human plague
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#2 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#81 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#32 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#33 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#35 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#40 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#42 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#57 The Mortgage Crisis---Some Inside Views
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#37 Civilization, doomed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#38 Civilization, doomed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#60 Civilization, doomed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#28 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#41 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#92 Bank Failures Cost $88 Billion
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#21 Zombie Banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#72 Chris Dodd's SOPA crusading
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#5 Too big not to fail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#45 Fannie, Freddie Charge Taxpayers For Legal Bills
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#54 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#11 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#39 Fannie and Freddie must go - here's how
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#22 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#50 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#56 General Mills computer
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 09:35:18 -0400jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
my periodic claim that all of what appears to be going on in congress
is Kabuki Theater ... including what appears to be conflict between
the two parties ... which contributes to increasing the funds flowing
into their pockets and tends to keep the public's attention distracted
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#kabuki.theater
particularly the 1603-1629 period
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabuki
all of congress fiddled while the economy burned ... but early upthread
as to those having proportionate responsibility ... see the
previously referenced times list for the top 25. As mentioned the
president while this was all happening, was the son of the person in the
1980s administration that was point person for removal of regulation and
oversight resulting in the looting of the S&Ls and his brother was major
figure in one of the large S&L lootings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan
As for Frank ... the wiki page has his post-congress wealth at between
$619,024 and $1,510,000 ... and not on any industry payroll at some
enormously inflated salary (like many of the major players in the
economic mess).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_Frank
above references #6 on times list of those responsible, characterized
Barney as deal maker with the republicans ... which would have
drastically cut the ability to do anything
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877341,00.html
As I'm prone to comment there is enormous obfuscation and misdirection
going on regarding the economic mess, including tieing up lots of
economists to spin the story
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Job_(2010_film)
I've also mentioned that Jan2009, I was asked to HTML'ize the Pecora
hearings (scanned the fall2008 at Boston Public Library, senate hearings
into the crash of '29, resulting in Glass-Steagall) with loads of
internal x-refs and lots of URLs between what happened this time and
what happened then (some expectation that the new congress had the
fortitude to do something). After working on it for some time, I got a
call saying that it wouldn't be needed after all (references to enormous
piles of wallstreet money blanketing capital hill). past posts
mentioning Pecora hearings &/or Glass-Steagall
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
I've mentioned before early in the economy crashing, there was article
out of the wharton business school referencing an estimate of 1000
responsible and it would go a long way to correcting the situation if
the gov. could figure out how to remove them from their positions (which
has yet to happen). URL has periodically gone 404 &/or behind paywall
but is at wayback machine:
https://web.archive.org/web/20080606084328/http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article.cfm?articleid=1933
past references to the wharton business school article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#32 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#44 Fixing finance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#52 IBM CEO's remuneration last year ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#66 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#89 Credit Crisis Timeline
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#4 A Merit based system of reward -Does anybody (or any executive) really want to be judged on merit?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#67 Do you have other examples of how people evade taking resp. for risk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#73 CROOKS and NANNIES: what would Boyd do?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#77 CROOKS and NANNIES: what would Boyd do?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#79 The Credit Crunch: Why it happened?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#85 Banks' Demise: Why have the Governments hired the foxes to mend the chicken runs?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#1 Are Both The U.S. & UK on the brink of debt disaster?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#11 Amid Economic Turbulence, Mainframes Counter IT Cost-Cutting Trend
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#18 Barbless
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#25 The recently revealed excesses of John Thain, the former CEO of Merrill Lynch, while the firm was receiving $25 Billion in TARP funds makes me sick
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#36 A great article was posted in another BI group: "To H*** with Business Intelligence: 40 Percent of Execs Trust Gut"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#49 US disaster, debts and bad financial management
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#53 Credit & Risk Management ... go Simple ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#54 In your opinion, which facts caused the global crise situation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#11 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#28 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#38 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#39 'WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GLOBAL MELTDOWN'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#3 Congress Set to Approve Pay Cap of $500,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#35 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#20 What is the real basis for business mess we are facing today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#27 US banking Changes- TARP Proposl
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#35 US banking Changes- TARP Proposl
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#38 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#54 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#22 In the News: SEC storms the 'Castle'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#40 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#38 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#40 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#74 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#73 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#74 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#48 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#31 21st Century Management approach?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#17 What's your favorite quote on "accountability"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#22 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#77 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#53 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#55 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#64 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#4 HSBC's Settlement Leaves Us In A Scary Place
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#73 Why DOJ Deemed Bank Execs Too Big To Jail
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 10:27:11 -0400Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> writes:
the mortgage market used to be regulated depository institutions using deposits to make the loans and their profit was from the regular mortgage payments and they had interest in loan quality and borrower's qualifications.
as referenced here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fannie_Mae
from above
Then in 2003-2004, the subprime mortgage crisis began.[31] The
market shifted away from regulated GSE's and radically toward Mortgage
Backed Securities (MBS) issued by unregulated private-label
securitization conduits, typically operated by investment banks.
... snip ...
in the oct2008 congressional hearings into the pivotal role that the rating agencies played ... there was description about how radically the market changed.
unregulated, non-depository loan originators securitize
no-documentation, liar loans, pay the rating agencies for triple-A
ratings on the toxic CDOs, and immediately sell them off through
wallstreet. past posts mentioning toxic CDOs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
securitized mortgages had seen limited use during the S&L crisis to
obfuscate fraudulent mortgages ... but w/o the triple-A rating, there
was limited market. In the late 90s, we were asked to look at improving
the integrity of the supporting documents in securitized mortgages. a
long-winded discussion by one of the attendees at a jan1999 workshop
that tandem/compaq put on for us
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm
however, by being able to pay for triple-A rating (when both the sellers and the rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A ... from oct2008 congressional hearing testimony) ... the unregulated, non-depository loan originators could immediately sell everything off regardless of borrower's qualifications and/or loan quality (triple-A rating trumps supporting documentation ... and w/o supporiting documents, there is no longer issue of supporting documentation integrity). one of the aspects of being able to pay for the triple-A rating is it opened up the market to institutions restricted to dealing in only SAFE investments ... like large soveriegn and retirement funds (some of the recent fluff around solvency of large retirement funds could be partially obfuscation and misdirection away from the triple-A rated toxic CDOs they hold).
The mortgage market morphed from profit on the mortgage payments to the skim, commissions, and fees on the loans transactions ... motivating maximizing the size of the loans done as fast as possible (w/o any other consideration). NOBODY originating the loans cared anymore ... they were only focused on making loans as fast as possible and as large as possible ... and NOBODY in wallstreet cared (wallstreet tripled in size as percent of GDP ... on the massive influx of these new transactions).
note that the lack of supporting documentation more recently results
in the robo-signing fraud ... fraudulent manufacturing of supporting
documents as part of foreclosur process.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_foreclosure_crisis
some recent news ... fines in the billions for robo-signing fraud
... being viewed as cost of doing business ... since it is trivial
precent of the amount involved (and lots of pushback on making the
fines actually comparable to amounts involved)
http://dailybail.com/home/wrist-slap-justice-dept-settles-robo-signing-fraud-case.html
some battle to keep from holding guilty seriously accountable
http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2013/03/25/ny-court-reinstates-foreclosure-chides-judge-for-robosigning-sanctions/
there then is gov. regulatory agencies requiring reviews of the robo-signing fraud by the institutions to see if any of the mortgage holders were harmed ... and allowed the institutions to hire and run the reviews ... which unsurpisingly found almost no harm (obfuscation and misdirection away from the outright robo-signing fraud which could no longer be covered up ... and trying to convert it into case of whether the robo-signing fraud harmed anybody). A major player in the reviews was company that had almost no experience in mortgages but had lots of former officials from gov. regulatory agencies. The litany of misconduct and fraud seems to never stop.
recent posts mentioning continued fraud during foreclosure process as
well as fraid in the review process looking to see if anybody was
harmed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#41 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#73 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#16 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#27 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#30 Email Trails Show Bankers Behaving Badly
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#36 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#38 Adair Turner: A New Debt-Free Money Advocate
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#44 Adair Turner: A New Debt-Free Money Advocate
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#46 Bankers Who Made Millions In Housing Boom Misled Investors: Study
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#47 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#64 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#6 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#18 WhistleWatch -- Blog Archive -- Former Top Federal Whistleblower Protector Scott Bloch, Esq. Pleads Guilty to Destruction of Government Property
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#19 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#43 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#58 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#4 Live-Blogging Senate Hearing Tomorrow, When J.P. Morgan Chase Will Be Torn a New One
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#31 Bank Whistleblower Claims Retaliation And Wrongful Termination
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#77 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#42 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#12 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 10:35:28 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
and as this references ... there was over $27T done via this mechanism
... which totally dwarfs everything else.
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-27/evil-wall-street-exports-boomed-with-fools-born-to-buy-debt
and being able to pay for the triple-A rating eliminated anybody having to care about borrower's qualifications and loan quality ... enabling the no-documentation, liar loans.
past posts in this thread
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#86 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#87 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#1 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#2 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#5 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#7 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#8 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#9 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 15:15:17 -0400Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> writes:
all the beltway bandits part of the Success Of Failure culture find
that series of failures is more profitable than immediate success (not
limited to MICC).
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/
and past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failuree
posts mentioning micc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
we offered that we would work on the problems for free in the interests of veterans ... then somebody made reference about that being some of the most threatening words that can be said in washington (there are way too many beltway bandits with heavy financial vested interests in the existing status quo)
as an aside, we did consult for free on the 2000 census ... complete
replacement of 20yr old dataprocessing backend equipment. a couple past
posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#63 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#92 Billion-dollar IT failure at Census Bureau
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#21 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#56 Handling multicore CPUs; what the competition is thinking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#56 What's the most interesting thing you do in your non-work life?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#87 Cultural attitudes towards failure
recent posts in this thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#32 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#34 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#35 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#38 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#41 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#43 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#45 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#51 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#54 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#55 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#63 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#64 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#67 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#69 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#70 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#71 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#73 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#83 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#86 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#87 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#1 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#2 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#5 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#7 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#8 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#9 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#10 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: spacewar Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 08:29:42 -0400Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
for other archaeological trivia ... more details
http://lnkd.in/MbiakK
also here:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#3 A Brief History of Cloud Computing
we were doing a lot of work out of location just behind page mill in palo alto ... sort of ground zero.
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: Jack Lew Shows His True Colors By Forcing Deregulation of Derivatives on the CFTC Date: 05 Sep 2013 Blog: Google+re:
Jack Lew Shows His True Colors By Forcing Deregulation of Derivatives
on the CFTC
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/09/david-dayen-jack-lew-shows-his-true-colors-by-forcing-deregulation-of-derivatives-on-the-cftc.html
previously forcing derivatives being unregulated helped earn #2
position on time's list of those responsible
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html
#2 on times list of those responsible for economic mess, had help from his wife in keeping derivatives unregulated
Gramm and the 'Enron Loophole'
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/business/17grammside.html
from above:
Enron was a major contributor to Mr. Gramm's political campaigns, and
Mr. Gramm's wife, Wendy, served on the Enron board, which she joined
after stepping down as chairwoman of the Commodity Futures Trading
Commission.
... snip ...
Phil Gramm's Enron Favor
https://web.archive.org/web/20080711114839/http://www.villagevoice.com/2002-01-15/news/phil-gramm-s-enron-favor/
from above:
A few days after she got the ball rolling on the exemption, Wendy
Gramm resigned from the commission. Enron soon appointed her to its
board of directors, where she served on the audit committee, which
oversees the inner financial workings of the corporation. For this,
the company paid her between $915,000 and $1.85 million in stocks and
dividends, as much as $50,000 in annual salary, and $176,000 in
attendance fees,
... snip ...
Greenspan Slept as Off-Books Debt Escaped Scrutiny
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&refer=home&sid=aYJZOB_gZi0I
from above:
That same year Greenspan, Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin and SEC
Chairman Arthur Levitt opposed an attempt by Brooksley Born, head of
the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, to study regulating
over-the-counter derivatives. In 2000, Congress passed a law keeping
them unregulated.
... snip ...
Brooksley was fairly quickly replaced by Wendy Gramm as head of Commodity Futures Trading Commission, before Wendy then resigned to join Enron's board.
past posts mentioning Enron
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
more derivatives: Larry Summers and the System; Making the World Safe
for Banksters
http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/09/05/making-the-world-safe-for-banksters/
Former Senior White House Official On Larry Summers Nomination: 'It
Really Does Need To Be Stopped'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/04/larry-summers_n_3862577.html
Here's what Larry Summers would do at the Fed
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/09/04/heres-what-larry-summers-would-do-at-the-fed/
Seven Reasons to Fight Obama on Picking Out-of-Touch Crony Capitalist
Larry Summers as Fed Chair
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/09/lynn-parramore-seven-reasons-to-fight-obama-on-picking-out-of-touch-crony-capitalist-larry-summers-as-fed-chair.html
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 16:33:10 -0400jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
those pots might be hundreds of millions or even billions ... the economic mess involved enormous pots involving large trillions ... you would need decades or centuries of those old size pots to do as much damage as was done the last decade in the economic mess.
part of the obfuscation and misdirection about the economic mess was allusions to the too-big-to-fail being *people* and they wouldn't do things that weren't in their own best interests. however, many of the individuals in the too-big-to-fail were sociopaths and the personal skim, fees, and commissions off the triple-A rated toxic CDOs were so large that it more than took care of any possible concern they might have regarding the damage to their corporation, the economy, and/or the country (the individual actions could take down their company but they would walk away with enormous pot of money and could move on to the next set of victims).
past posts mentioning too-big-to-fail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
past posts mentioning toxic CDOs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
other recent posts mentioning Frank (and/or Dodd-Frank bill):
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#62 Taleb On "Skin In The Game" And His Disdain For Public Intellectuals
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#70 Lotus 1-2-3 rebooted: My trip back to the old (named) range
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#4 Libor Lies Revealed in Rigging of $300 Trillion Benchmark
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#71 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#73 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#45 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#86 How Wall Street Defanged Dodd-Frank
as an aside, keeping derivatives deregulated went a long way towards earning the #2 place on times list of those responsible for the economic mess (along with the help of his wife) ... current round ... along with further undermining Dodd-Frank:
Jack Lew Shows His True Colors By Forcing Deregulation of Derivatives on
the CFTC
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/09/david-dayen-jack-lew-shows-his-true-colors-by-forcing-deregulation-of-derivatives-on-the-cftc.html
recent post on Google+ ... copy/archived here
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#13 Jack Lew Shows His True Colors By Forcing Deregulation of Derivatives on the CFTC
past posts mentioning Enron
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
past posts about derivative gambling has exploded to hundreds of
trillion dollar activity ... some estimates $1.2quadrillion
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#70 No One Telling Who Took $586B in Fed Swaps
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#87 The PC industry is heading for collapse
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#5 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#45 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#58 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#64 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#29 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#60 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#76 Naked emperors, holy cows and Libor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#77 'Inexperienced' RBS tech operative's blunder led to banking meltdown
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#85 Naked emperors, holy cows and Libor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#94 Naked emperors, holy cows and Libor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#0 These Two Charts Show How The Priorities Of US Companies Have Gotten Screwed Up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#28 Senator Sherrod Brown Drops a Bombshell in Mary Jo White's Hearing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#29 Bank Holiday In Cyprus
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#40 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#73 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#81 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#88 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#23 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#25 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#40 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#45 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: spacewar Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 19:47:34 -0400Wayne Salamon <xenon@wsalamon.net> writes:
and I got long-winded comments here:
A Brief History of Cloud Computing
http://blog.softlayer.com/2013/virtual-magic-the-cloud/
also archived:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#3 A Brief History of Cloud Computing
and copied here:
http://lnkd.in/MbiakK
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 10:22:18 -0400jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
most of it wasn't legal ... while the original take-over of cit was in
violation (illegal) of glass-steagall ... greespan granted an
exemption ... while congress was lobbied to repeal glass-steagall
... creating too-big-to-fail. past posts mentioning glass-steagall
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
then very much of what they did was illegal ... but following the
too-big-to-fail scenario (not declared insolvent and dissolved)
... they also became too-big-to-prosecute and too-big-to-jail ... not
only for the extremely illegal activity in the real-estate market
... but it has also shown up when they've been caught money laundering
for drug cartels and terrorists
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering
as well as other things like manipulating benchmark rates (like
LIBOR),
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#libor
using HFT to front-run the market (using information that nobody else
has yet) ... recent mention HFT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#10 What Makes Infrastructure investment not bizarre
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#12 What Makes Infrastructure investment not bizarre
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#50 IBM Furloughs U.S. Hardware Employees to Reduce Costs
and illegal naked short selling ... for a small list. old reference
that there is wide-spread illegal activity on wallstreet but they have
nothing to worry about from the regulatory agencies
http://nypost.com/2007/03/20/cramer-reveals-a-bit-too-much/
then there is the whole public company fraudulent reporting fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud.fraud
that sarbanes-oxley was suppose to guarantee top executives and
auditors would do jail time ... claim is that all of the
too-big-to-fail ... as part of various financial manipulations
... fiddling their books ... also violated sarbanes-oxley ... but it
isn't just the too-big-to-fail that aren't doing jail time ... it is
long list of others. misc. past posts mentioning sarbanes-oxley
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
and Enron
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
the lack of regulatory and prosecution failing to do anything ... also
came up in the congressional Madoff hearings by the person that had
tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about
Madoff ... note SEC was finally forced to do something when Madoff
turned himself in
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff
it is similar/analogous to the recent illegal tax evasion discussion
... that even tho enormous amounts of money have been poured into
congress to changes the laws so all sorts of tax activities are no
longer illegal ... it didn't stop the enormous ongoing activity in the
remaining activities that are still illegal.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#19 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#26 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#32 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#38 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#64 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#71 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#73 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
when there has been whistleblowers and investigative reporting that
results in exposing the illegal activity coverups ... and it becomes
public ... and no longer possible to coverup ... some of the cover
agencies then admit that yes it was illegal & fraudulent and fine the
parent company token amounts (considering the totally amounts
involved). the individuals are rarely held responsible and nearly
nobody does jail time ... lots of whislteblower refs ... but nobody
doing jail time
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#9 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
for instance in this scenario about the #2 on times list of those
responsible ... with the help of his wife ... keeps derivatives from
being regulated
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#13 Jack Lew Shows His True Colors By Forcing Deregulation of Derivatives on the CFTC
as soon as the law is passed, she resigns as chairman of CFTC and joins the ENRON board and is a member of the board audit committee overseeing ENRON's financials. It has been established that ENRON's financials were fraudulent ... but very few have been prosecuted and/or doing jail time.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 13:15:41 -0400re:
from today, would you believe even American Banker saying it
How Big-Bank Bucks Tip the Scales of Justice
http://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20130906141950-33551920-how-big-bank-bucks-tip-the-scales-of-justice?trk=tod-home-art-list-large_0
from above:
Don't be surprised if what passes for the SEC's new
model of toughness fails to get many shady financiers shaking in their
wing-tips. Perhaps it's a model whose sense can only be divined
by a lawyer who's made a round trip through the Washington-Wall
Street revolving door--a lawyer, that is, like the SEC's newly
appointed chairwoman, Mary Jo White.
... snip ...
the above references
Transcript: Attorney General Eric Holder on 'Too Big to Jail'
http://www.americanbanker.com/issues/178_45/transcript-attorney-general-eric-holder-on-too-big-to-jail-1057295-1.html
Can Regulators that Spawned TBTF Banks End TBTF?
http://www.americanbanker.com/bankthink/can-regulators-that-spawned-tbtf-banks-end-tbtf-1058080-1.html
Schapiro's Promontory Move Latest Sign of Too Much Coziness
http://www.americanbanker.com/bankthink/schapiros-promontory-move-latest-signal-of-too-much-coziness-1057980-1.html
as an aside ... promontory plays prominent role in the evaluation whether
the foreclosures involving fraudulent robo-signing documents harmed
those being foreclosed ... and found little or no harm ... but then
some whistleblowers come forth with what was really was going on ... and
still little or nothing has happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#9 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
other refs besides those sighted in the whistleblower threads (just about every too-big-to-fail heavily involved in the robo-signing document fraud then hired promontory):
Regulatory Looting, Promontory-Style: Botched Foreclosure Reviews Alone
Generate More than Double Goldman's Revenues per Employee
http://batrdailybusinessreport.blogspot.com/2013/06/regulatory-looting-promontory-style.html
Bank of America Foreclosure Reviews: Why the OCC Overlooked
"Independent" Reviewer Promontory's Keystone Cops Act (Part VB)
http://stopforeclosurefraud.com/2013/02/11/bank-of-america-foreclosure-reviews-why-the-occ-overlooked-independent-reviewer-promontorys-keystone-cops-act-part-vb/
Insider Says Promontory's OCC Foreclosure Reviews for Wells are
Frauds. Brought to You by HUD Sec. Donovan By Abigail Field, a
freelance writer and attorney who blogs at Reality Check Foreclosure
Fraud - Fighting Foreclosure Fraud
http://4closurefraud.org/2012/02/27/abigail-field-insider-says-promontorys-occ-foreclosure-reviews-for-wells-are-frauds-brought-to-you-by-hud-sec-donovan-by-abigail-field-a-freelance-writer-and-attorney-who-blogs-at-reali/
Foreclosures (2012 Robosigning and Mortgage Servicing Settlement)
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/f/foreclosures/index.html
Is BofA's Foreclosure Review Really Independent? You Be the Judge
http://www.propublica.org/article/is-bofas-foreclosure-review-really-independent-you-be-the-judge
Settling The Foreclosure Reviews: Winners And Losers
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francinemckenna/2013/01/08/settling-the-foreclosure-reviews-winners-and-losers/
too big to fail, too big to prosecute, too big to jail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
one of the comments in the probe of money laundering for drug cartels
and terrorists ... is that the too big to fail should be broken up
... so the next time they are caught in illegal activity, they can be
prosecuted and jailed ... and the institution dissolved (as per the
law).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering
time for a new motto ... the crimes that never stop paying or the crimes that continue to pay or crime DOES pay
other recent posts in this thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#1 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#2 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#5 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#7 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#10 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#11 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#14 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: A Brief History of Cloud Computing Date: 07 Sep 2013 Blog: FacebookA Brief History of Cloud Computing
other recent History of Cloud Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#3 A Brief History of Cloud Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#4 A Brief History of Cloud Computing
looks same as panel shown for 155 in ga22-6942 155 funcchar manual at
bitsavers.
http://wwww.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/370/funcChar/GA22-6942-1_370-155_funcChar_Jan71.pdf
trivia .. science center got 370/155 to replace 360/67 and to move from cp67 to vm370 (note a version had long previously been ported to 370 ... it was done as part of effort that had 370 virtual machines simulated under cp67 (on real 360/67) and was running regularly a year before 370 engineering model w/virtual memory was operational (turns out this was joint effort between science center and endicott and used vnet for distributed development).
I did a lot of performance benchmarking offshift on the machine
... and in order to simulate the throughput of 370/145 unlatched the
front panel, swung it opened and there was switch on backside that
disabled the cache ... which resulted in nearly same throughput as
145. past posts mentioning benchmarking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#benchmark
There is quote in Melinda's VM history about Atlas not working well
.. the research I've done is that Atlas didn't have hardware address
space identifier ... it was primarily designed to run program with
address space larger than real memory ... multitasking & multiple
address spaces implied complete swap. reference
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#82 Multiple Virtual Memory
the virtual memory hardware mods to 360/40 were more like 801/risc
inverted tables with each real page tagged with a virtual address
space identifier and a virtual page number (and a control register
with the active virtual address space id). CP40 morphed into CP67 with
the availability of 360/67 ... which had hardware segment/page tables
and the address of the active virtual address space segment table
loaded into control register.
https://www.leeandmelindavarian.com/Melinda#VMHist
There was joke about a lot of 360/67s that didn't exist being shipped to the dept of agriculture address somewhere in the midwest.
There has been lots of discussion that MVT/TSO wasn't technically timesharing ... it was online terminal support under os/360 (time sharing option was gross misnomer). As undergraduate in the 60s I had modified HASP to support 2741&TTY terminals and did an editor that supported CMS context editor syntax .... that predated TSO and I considered superior to TSO.
Initial work porting MVT to 370 virtual memory environment for OS/VS2 was single virtual address space (i.e. MVT laid out in 16mbyte virtual address space). By far the biggest code hit was adding ccw translation to EXCP processing (i.e. channel programs passed by applications via SVC0) ... similar to what CP67 had to do for running virtual machines .... in fact Ludlow borrowed the CP67 routine CCWTRANS and cribbed it into EXCP processing. OS/VS2 enhancement for multiple virtual address spaces (aka MVS) came later.
This is post in long-winded past thread about Future System and MVS
... high level staffer in POK at the time sent me the additional
detail offline:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#73 Multiple Virtual Memory
... other trivia ... in a prior life he had worked with my wife in the
JES group on the port of ASP to JES3 ... this was before my wife was
con'ed into going to POK to be in charge of loosely-coupled
architecture. misc. past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#shareddata
disclaimer: facebook finds jpg file from previous post in the same
file ... it is picture of my wife's father dagger board. towards the
end of ww2, he was frequently ranking officer into enemy territory and
was presented officer daggers during surrender ceremonies. the daggers
and a whole lot of other ww2 material were stolen in a burglary (and
never recovered)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#39 The first personal computer (PC)
Melinda's history has Cambridge trying to get a 360/50 to do the hardware modifications for virtual memory ... but all spare 50s were going to the FAA air traffic controller project ... so they had to settle for 360/40 for the hardware modifications. Claim was it turned out to be very fortunate since the 360/40 was much easier to modify than the 360/50 would have been. Cambridge had thought they would be the focal point for the time-sharing virtual memory effort being proposed for project Mac ... but it turns out it was a different group ... the one that was going to do TSS/360 ... and then IBM lost Project Mac to GE (for Multics). One of the comments was the TSS/360 was going full steam ahead w/o even knowing why Atlas wasn't performing well. And for a whole lot of reasons, TSS/360 didn't perform well, not just because they didn't understand why Atlas wasn't performing well.
As an undergraduate I was given responsibility for the univ OS/360
production system .... they had been one of the univ. con'ed into
order 360/67 for TSS/360 ... but TSS/360 never quite made it to
production level and so many places were running it as 360/65. I had
the datacenter all to myself on the weekends to do whatever I wanted
... and after CP67 was delivered to the univ. last week of Jan1968
... I got to play with it on weekends. The univ. library also got ONR
grant to do a online catalog and part of the money went for 2321
datacell. The library project was also selected to be betatest site
for the original CICS product and one of my duties was supporting and
shooting CICS bugs.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#cics
TSO went thru standard OS/360 TCB scheduling and OS/360 allocation
which were enormously heavy-weight operations. CICS came up as one
large OS/360 task and did all its OS/360 allocation at startup
... from then on, everything was done via internal CICS lightweight
operations ... with minimal reliance on OS/360. Because of its
extremely lightweight support, it didn't have multiprocessor support
or protection for different programs clobbering each other until
relatively recently (this is similar to what I had done to adding
terminal support to HASP ... which was even lighter weight support
than CICS). At the turn of the century, there were large CICS
installations running over 100 different concurrent instances of CICS
on single CEC in order to compensate for lack of multiprocessor
support and CICS application program isolation (each CICS instance was
its own TCB and ACB) ...
https://web.archive.org/web/20090107054344/http://www.yelavich.com/history/ev200402.htm
and treated by MVS as a single large application program .... but as
machine's got larger CICS didn't scale so customers were forced into
using ever increasingly large number of CICS instances to compensate.
https://web.archive.org/web/20080123061613/http://www.yelavich.com/history/toc.htm
The Univ. had previously had 709 running ibsys monitor tape-to-tape
with 1401 unit record front end (tapes manually moved between 709 tape
drives to 1401 tape drives). Student fortran jobs ran less than second
elapsed time. Initial move to os/360 ... student fortran jobs (as
3step fortgclg) ran over a minute elapsed time. That was reduced to a
little over 30secs elapsed time when HASP was introduced.
past posts mentioning hasp
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#hasp
I started doing manual STAGE2 os/360 sysgens ... I would take the output of stage1 SYSGEN (around 2000 cards) and manually reoder most of the statements to obtain careful placement of datasets and PDS members for optimal arm seek operation. I got nearly three fold improvement in elapsed time for student fortran jobs. It wasn't until the univ. installed WATFOR monitor from waterloo that student fortran jobs ran faster than 709 IBSYS. WATFOR monitor and CICS were similar ... came up as single step, large application ... and then ran for extended period of time doing everything internally with minimal use of os/360. Besides TCB scheduling being an extremely CPU intensive operation and poor performance OS/360 resource management relied on a huge number of transient SVC modules ... each 2kbyres or less that were sequentially loaded through the transient SVC area. DD card processing and OPEN/CLOSE were enormously expensive operations because of the large number of SVC modules that had to be sequentially loaded for every operation
The other problem was that OS/360 made extensive use of multi-track search for vtoc and pds directories ... which was a reasonable trade off between scarce real storage and i/o resources in the mid 60s ... in effect indexes that are kept cached in storage in modern systems were sequentially searched on disk ... tying up channel, controller, and disk ... by the mid-70s the trade-off had inverted ... real storage (for indexes) was becoming more plentiful and I/O resources becoming bottleneck (and CKD multi-track searches were becoming an enormous resource hog). Part of my undergraduate work with careful sysgens for disk arm placement also resulted in the highest use PDS members having their directory entries at the front of the directory ... minimizing multi-track search elapsed time.
In the late 70s, I was brought into large national retailers that had
several large 370s in loosely-coupled configuration and CICS retail
store application load was limited to 2/sec (across the whole complex
for hundreds of stores) because it was taking two PDS directory
mutli-track search operations, one 1/3sec elapsed time and one 1/6sec
elapsed time (aka CICS could slow down enormously once it had to start
dynamically loading applications on the fly). I offered the MVS
support for FBA disks ... but was told that even ir it was fully
integrated and tested ... I will needed to show a couple hundred million in
incremental new disk sales to justify education and manual changes
(and I couldn't use long-term lifecycle savings). Note that MVS still
doesn't have FBA support even though real CKD disks haven't been
manufactured for decades (simulated on FBA devices). past posts
mentioning CKD multi-track search, FBA, etc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dasd
Other trivia, Charlie invented the compare&swap (name chosen because
CAS are charlie's initials) instruction at the science center while
working on fine grain multiprocessor locking for cp67. The attempt to
get it included in 370 was rejected (the pok os/360 kernel group
claimed that test&set ... for single global spin-lock, was more than
adequate). The 370 architecture owners said that to get instruction
justified, additional uses had to be defined ... thus was born the
examples that still exist in principles of operation showing how large
multi-thread/multi-programmed applications can use compare&swap for
serialization ... regardless of whether running on single process or
multiple processor. note lots of other platforms have also since
implemented similar instructions that are heavily used by large DBMS
implementation. past posts mentioning SMP and/or compare&swap
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp
the original SQL relational implementation was done on vm370 370/145
at san jose research as systeme/r. Technology transfer of system/r to
endicott and release as sql/ds was possible "under the radar" because
the corporation was focused on getting out the strategic DBMS
"EAGLE". When "EAGLE" failed, they asked how fast could system/r be
ported to MVS ... which eventually morphs into release of DB2
... initially for analytics and design support only (not production
transactions). misc. past posts mentioning system/r
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: A Brief History of Cloud Computing Date: 08 Sep 2013 Blog: Facebookre:
other recent History of Cloud Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#3 A Brief History of Cloud Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#4 A Brief History of Cloud Computing
Note Ellison's history before forming Oracle at AMPEX ... working on
project for certain 3letter agency (from which came the Oracle name).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Ellison
That 3letter agency was very active in SHARE ... much of their
dataprocessing started with cp67 and moving to vm370. Also active on
VMSHARE (computer conferencing provided for free to SHARE starting in
Aug1976 by one the commercial online virtual machine service bureaus)
... their SHARE & VMSHARE ID being CAD (supposedly for cloak&dagger)
... vmshare archives
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/
also reference upthread
https://web.archive.org/web/20090117083033/http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtml
Regarding reference to 1990 in Ellison wiki ... in silicon valley the
news was that Oracle had agreed to effectively being bought by NIPPON
STEEL and then backed out. The Oracle employees commenting that what
saved the day was a corporate 6000 licenses done with SHELL OIL. As an
aside, in 1991 when we were out marketing HA/CMP around the world
... Oracle sponsored customer call on SHELL at hdqtrs in europe and
several other locations. We also had large HA/CMP booth at Oracle
World held in Cannes ... this was before cluster scale-up was
transferred and we were told we couldn't work on anything with more
than 4 processors ... previous ref
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13
past ha/cmp posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp
Note one of the issues that may have contributed to cluster scale-up being transferred and then being announced as supercomputer for technical & scientific only ... was that mainframe DB2 group complaining that what we were doing with Oracle was at least five yrs ahead of them. We we working with both Ingres & Oracle on HA/CMP cluster scale-up. IBM didn't have an open platform DBMS with cluster support. Ingres & Oracle had cluster support for VAX/Cluster. Our work with Ingress & Oracle was to implement cluster support with minimum changes for their VAX/Cluster support ... but addressing/fixing all of the issues that they said were wrong with VAX/Cluster ... as well as addressing numerous scale-up issues.
other trivia: I had fixed things with TYMSHARE to get regular
distribution of all the VMSHARE files to put up on internal machines
.... including accessing over the internal network. One of the biggest
problems was getting around objections that internal developers would
be contaminated by exposure to customer statements. some old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vmshare
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Teletypewriter Model 33 Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 9 Sep 2013 07:52:16 -0700john.archie.mckown@GMAIL.COM (John McKown) writes:
science center had assumed they would get virtual memory effort ... but
lost out to the new tss/360 group. however, the science center did get
360/40 and did their own hardware modifications and producing (virtual
machine) cp40/cms ... which morphed into cp67/cms when 360/67 became
available. past posts mentioning science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
IBM recently shared this on Facebook ... which gets into tracing cloud computing back to the virtualization work at the science center blog.softlayer.com/2013/virtual-magic-the-cloud/
... I reshared and also posted to (linkedin) "Old Geeks" that got some
more comments
http://lnkd.in/MbiakK
Mike then reshared on facebook and generated a lot more comments
... some of mine archived here
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#18
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#19
the science center installed cp67/cms at the univ last week jan1968 ... and I got to play with it on weekends. cp67/cms had support for 2741 and 1052 terminals ... including dynamic terminal type identification. the univ. had some number of tty/33 terminals and I added tty/ascii support ... including extending dynamic terminal type identification to include tty. I had wanted to extend this to have a single dialup phone number with common pool of number/ports for all terminals ("hunt group") ... however, there was a deficiency in the ibm terminal controller ... while it was possible to dynamically associate the type of line-scanner with any port ... it wasn't possible to change a ports line-speed (2741 & 1052 operated at same line-speed, but tty/33 was different line-speed).
this somewhat was behind the univ. deciding to start clone controller
effort ... starting with interdata/3 minicomputer ... reverse engineer
the 360 channel interface and build a board for the interdata/3 and
program the interdate/3 to emulate ibm terminal controller ... but
supporting both changing line-scanner on each port as well as dynamic
line speed identification. four of us get written up as responsible for
(some part of) clone controller business. some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#360pcm
it morphed into an interdata/4 handling the channel interface with cluster of interdata/3 for line scanner function ... which interdata marketed as product. It continued to be marketed after interdata was bought under the Perkin-Elmer logo. I ran into one about a decade ago in large financial transaction datacenter handling much of the retail point-of-sale card swipe dial-up terminals on the east coast.
I also hacked HASP and added 2741 & TTY terminal support ... and implemented an editor with the CMS editor syntax (completely different code since the programming environments are so different) ... which I considered much better than TSO (circa os/360 MVT 18).
for other drift ... the rise of clone controllers is credited as
the major motification behind the (failed) future system effort
... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Teletypewriter Model 33 Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 9 Sep 2013 08:13:45 -0700barry@MXG.COM (Barry Merrill) writes:
other trivia about clone controller ... int early tests data transferred to 360 memory was all garbage ... turned out we overlooked that ibm controller line-scanner convention was leading bit went into low-order bit position in byte ... reversing the order of bits in each byte ... with mainframe translate tables handling the ascii<->ebcdic bit reversed byte convention (had initially transferred straight ascii rather than bit reversed ascii).
i got online 2741 at home starting in Mar1970 ... which was replaced
with 300 baud CDI Miniterm the summer of 1977 (very similar to TI silent
700)
http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?st=1&c=636
old picture of desktop
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/miniterm2.jpg
the above also shows compact microfiche veiwer and a company business tieline. there was a microfiche printer that standard output could be routed to and get a couple hr delivery.
miniterm was followed by IBM 3101 "glass teletype" (initially 1200 baud)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/3101a.jpg
src="3101a.jpg">
src="3101b.jpg">
before getting ibm/pc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/homepc.jpg
src="homepc.jpg">
old pictures
3101 was code-named topaz before announce ... some old posts mentioning
topaz
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https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#0 Why so little parallelism?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#15 The Genealogy of the IBM PC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#39 sizeof() was: The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#40 DEC and news groups
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#74 What do YOU call the # sign?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#37 Baudot code direct to computers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#51 Baudot code direct to computers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#22 IBM PC competitors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#40 My "Green Screen" IBMLink is still working
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#66 A Complete History Of Mainframe Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#0 tty
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#27 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#15 I actually miss working at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#27 Singer Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#16 Unbuffered glass TTYs?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#24 spacewar
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Teletypewriter Model 33 Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 9 Sep 2013 09:08:14 -0700m42tom-ibmmain@YAHOO.COM (Tom Marchant) writes:
even more trivia .... there has some recent discussion about ntp
... person responsible for ntp ... earlier at michigan & MTS
http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/gallery/gallery8.html
and involved in DEC-based terminal controller
http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/gallery/gallery7.html
some umich mts pages gone 404 but live on at wayback machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20050212073808/www.itd.umich.edu/~doc/Digest/0596/feat01.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20050212073808/www.itd.umich.edu/~doc/Digest/0596/feat02.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20050212183905/www.itd.umich.edu/~doc/Digest/0596/feat03.html
One of barriers to entry for Amdahl in the 70s was need for IBM system support ... so Amdahl saw a lot of uptake from the MTS community (which didn't need IBM system support).
Then there appeared a very large east coast financial "true blue" firm with huge football fields of IBM mainframes ... was indicating it was going to be the first "true blue" commercial firm to install Amdahl machine. I was quite familar with the customer and was asked to go onsite for six months ... as possible way of convincing customer to cancel the order. However, the customer had been horribly offended by the branch manager ... and was going to install the Amdahl machine regardless ... and my role onsite was pure obfuscation and misdirection. I refused to go, giving the reason. I was told I had to do it anyway or I could kiss goodby to any career in the company ... because the branch manager was good sailing buddy of the CEO and this would ruin his career (and the CEO would hold it against me).
Note this goes along with the description of what happened to corporate
culture with the failure of Future System effort ... which was only a
year or two earlier.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
"Computer Wars: The Post-IBM World" Ferguson & Morris:
... and perhaps most damaging, the old culture under Watson Snr and Jr
of free and vigorous debate was replaced with sycophancy and make no
waves under Opel and Akers. It's claimed that thereafter, IBM lived in
the shadow of defeat
... and:
But because of the heavy investment of face by the top management, F/S
took years to kill, although its wrongheadedness was obvious from the
very outset. "For the first time, during F/S, outspoken criticism
became politically dangerous," recalls a former top executive.
... snip ...
thats beside some of the blame for the rise of clone controllers
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Teletypewriter Model 33 Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 9 Sep 2013 09:37:25 -0700barry@MXG.COM (Barry Merrill) writes:
I was corporate tieline ... so there was some extra care when it was originally setup ... I can only remember once when they had to come out and test various pairs.
I had gotten 2400 for 3101 ... but fairly early after getting IBM/PC it was replaced with corporate 2400 "encrypting" modem.
there was lots of concern about industrial espionage ... all the internal network links (larger than arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until some late '85 or early '86) required link encryptors. sometime mid-80s, there was claim that half of all link encryptors in the world were on the internal network.
in the light of lots of discussion about gov. agencies and encryption ... there were all sorts of problems getting approval for installing link encryptors ... especially when the links crossed national boundaries.
in the early 80s, evesdropping on phone line computer traffic ... and especially hotel PBX rooms, was identified as major vulnerability. The corporation did their own 2400 baud encrypting modem that was then mandated for home terminal program and portable "road warrior" PCs.
as various previous notes about internal network and dial-up traffic
... none of it was SNA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
however about the time of NSFNET backbone ... there was lots of
mis-information about how SNA/VTAM could be used for the NSFNET backbone
... some old NSFNET related email ... including discussion
of the SNA/VTAM misinformation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet
... was well as mis-information about why the internal network needed to be converted to SNA/VTAM
some of this is also discussed in the referenced cloud computing history threads
I had a project I called HSDT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
and was also working with various of the entities that would participate in NSFNET backbone. I had T1 and faster speed links ... and at the time the SNA/VTAM group even had justification to executive committee why customers didn't need/want links faster than 56kbits.
Getting link encryptors for T1 links and faster speed links was really
expensive and could be hard to find. This is recent reference in getting
involved in building our own link encryptors ... objective was to have
it handle at least 20mbits/sec and cost $100 or less. I got into tiff
with the corporate encryption group over whether standard DES had been
significantly weakened. It took three months to convince them that it
was significantly stronger (not weaker) than standard DES ... but as
referenced it was hollow victory and I came to realize there were 3kinds
of crypto 1) those they don't care about, 2) those you can't do, and 3)
those you can only do for them. I was told I could make as many as I
wanted ... but couldn't keep/use any of them ... but could sell all of
them to a gov. agency.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#77
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Teletypewriter Model 33 Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 9 Sep 2013 10:36:10 -0700re:
the cp67 changes i did at the univ for tty support was picked up and
shipped in the standard product by the science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
I had done a hack with 1byte arithmetic values for calculating data transferred (since tty max line length was much shorter)
science center was 4th flr, 545 tech sq ... and the MIT Urban Systems
lab had a cp67 datacenter in tech sq bldg. across the courtyard. this
is tale of tty max. line length being modified to 1200 (I think for some
kind of plotter device down at harvard school of public health).
https://www.multicians.org/thvv/360-67.html
resulting in cp67 crashing 27 times in one day (storage overlay with incorrect line lengths being calculated)
note that the above mentions science center on 3rd flr ... that is
incorrect. the science center was on the 4th flr of 545 tech sq (with
project mac & multics on the 5th flr) and the science center cp67
machine room was on the 2nd flr. The IBM Boston Programming center was
on the 3rd flr ... although after the cp67 group split off from the
science center in progress of turning into the vm370 group ... they
moved to the 3rd flr and absorbed the Boston Programming Center. recent
trivia about boston programming center doing conversational programming
system (CPS) for os/360
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#8
and
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/allen-babcock/cps/CPS_Progress_Report_may66.pdf
it also mentions 44MPS ... however, what the science center did was
hardware modify a 360/40 with virtual memory and did cp40/cms ... before
it morphs into cp67/cms when the 360/40 was replaced with
360/67. Comeau's cp40 talk that he gave at 1982 seas meeting
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/cp40seas1982.txt
some of the above also discussed in cloud computing thread
other trivia ... tss/360 group was purported to have 1200 people at a time when the cp67/cms group had 12 people (factor of 100 times diference)
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Teletypewriter Model 33 Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 9 Sep 2013 13:59:31 -0700gerhard@VALLEY.NET (Gerhard Postpischil) writes:
sometimes I had to alternate with the IBM SE doing some tss/360 on the
weekends. we did simulated interactive fortran edit compile linkedit and
go benchmark ... ran on the univ. 768kbyte 360/67 ... tss/360 with four
simulated users had worse throughput and response than cp67/cms did with
35 simulatetd users. this was even w/o much of the enhancements that I
did ... part of old presentation at fall '68 SHARE meeting.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#18 CP/67 & OS MFT14
I later did a lot more enhancements and on science center 768kbyte
machine (104 pageable pages after fixed storage requirements)
... regularly got 75-80 users with small subsecond interactive
response. this is recent posting about grenoble science center modifying
cp67 for "working set dispatcher" (paper in CACM early 70s) on their
machine that had 1mbyte real storage (155 pageable pages after fixed
storage requirements) and only got that thruput when running 35users
(with similar workload).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#70
mentions Jim Gray asking to step into an academic dispute over giving somebody Stanford PHD ... working involving global LRU replacement ... something that I had done originally as undergraduate in the 60s. The "local LRU" replacement forces were heavily lobbying to prevent the PHD from being awarding. My cambridge scientific center numbers were all global LRU showed much better than Genoble's "local LRU" (aka better than twice as many users with only 2/3rds the pageable real storage).
Unfortunately ibm management prevents me from responding for nearly a year ... hopefully it wasn't because they were trying to take sides in the academic dispute ... but possibly thought they were punishing me for being responsible for online computer conferencing.
some past posts mentioning page replacment, global LRU, and "clock"
replacement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#clock
some past posts mentioning online computer conferencing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#cmc
part of the problem with 3270s were that they were half-duplex ... so could be annoying for interactive computing. at least the 2741 keyboard locked when it didn't want you typing. On 3270s it was possible to be typing when the system goes to write the screen ... resulting in terminal lockup requiring the reset key to be hit. However, there was enough electronics in the 3277 head ... that it was possible to put a FIFO in the head ... that accumulated characters if the screen was being written ... avoiding the lockup & reset problem
then along came 3274/3728 where a lot of the terminal electronics were
moved back into the controller (and impossible to deal with the
half-duplex problem) ... it also made hardware processing and response
much slower ... past posts with old 3272/3277 and 3274/3278 comparison
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#19 3270 protocol
the 1/2 sec. 3274/3278 hardware latency made it possible for user to see 1/4 sec ("total") response ("hardware" + "system") ... however as referenced ... TSO rarely saw 1sec response ... so they tended to not notice the difference.
we complained to the product owner that 3274/3278 was much worse for interactive computing (compared to 3272/3277) and eventually got back response that 3278 wasn't designed for interactive computing ... but for data-entry (basically online keypunching).
later with PC terminal emulation ... a 3278 card was about 1/3rd the
upload/download throughput of 3277 card (there was significantly more
3278 coax protocol chatter .... because it assumed all the electronics
back in the controller). recent discussion
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#17
part of bad TSO throughput wasn't just TSO's fault ... some of it was the extensive, ingrained use of multi-track search in all the os/360 varieties. For a time, IBM san jose research had a mvs/168 system and vm/158 system with physically shared 3330 configuration ... but strinct direction that controllers/strings were dedicated/partitioned between the two systems. One day, a "MVS" 3330 was mounted on a vm/370 string ... and within five minutes the datacenter started getting irate calls from CMS users about something had severely degraded response and throughput. It turns out it was the controller lockup by the mvs/168 doing multi-track searches on the mis-placed pack. It was demanded that the pack be moved ... but the mvs operators said that they would do it at the end of the day, offshift (this was about 10am).
so we had this highly tuned VS1 system that ran significantly faster under vm370 (than stand-alone) ... and brought it up on loaded vm/158 system with pack on an MVS string ... which managed to bring the mvs/168 system to its knees and alleviate the throughput degradation that the CMS users were seeing. MVS operators then agreed to immediately move the MVS pack (off the vm string) if we took down the VS1 system.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Anyone here run UUCP? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 10:16:37 -0400early netcom.com email feeds supported uucp ... bunch of usenet postings from 1993 archived here
have "lynn@netcomX.UUCP"
Pagesat let me have modem and satellite usenet feed for doing modem
drivers for a couple different platforms ... and co-authoring article
for boardwatch magazine ... picture for article from 1993 at bottom here
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#oldpicts
feed coming into a rs/6000 aix system
and also had waffle running on ms/dos bulletin board system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffle_%28BBS_software%29
one of the people involved with UUCP at bell labs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UUCP
later went to silicon graphics and originated XTP. I got involved with
XTP and was on the XTP technical advisery board.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xpress_Transport_Protocol
above says XTP doesn't employ congestion avoidance algorithms ... but
XTP supported dynamically adjusted rate-based pacing ... write up
I did for rate-based pacing here ...
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/xtprate.html
other posts here
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#xtphsp
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: World's worst programming environment? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:19:50 -0400hancock4 writes:
low-end & mid-range machines were vertical microcode ... sort of like pc hardware instructions ... more like modern mainframe simulators ... they were tended to avg. 10 native instructions per 370 instruction simulated.
for VM/ECPS originally for 370 138&148 ... high use kernel
pathlengths were selected for direct implementation in native
instructions ... entered with special new instructions defined for the
purpose and got 10:1 performance improvement. I got con'ed into
helping with the kernel pathlength analysis and definition of ECPS
function. We were told that there was 6kbytes for native instructions
and select the 6kbytes of kernel highest used pathlength ... old post
with some of the analysis ... 6kbytes of kernel highest used
pathlength represented 80% of kernel processing time ... getting 10:1
performance increase done native:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#21 370 ECPS VM microcode assist
there was a different class of virtual machine assist ... 370 architecture is defined as having problem state instructions and supervisor state instructions ... original virtual machine operation ran the virtual machine in problem state mode ... simulating all supervisor state operations in kernel code. native supervisor state instructions were enhanced to recognize two types of executive ... normal bare machine and virtual machine operation. In this situation, virtual machines were run in virtual machine mode ... where many of the supervisor state instructions would execute following virtual machine rules ... and avoid interrupting into the kernel (for simulation).
I've frequently mentioned in the past that 3033 was quick&dirty
implementation starting with 168-3 design using 20% faster chips
... mad rush to get products back into the 370 product pipeline after
the failure of future system
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
and the lack of 370 products during the future system period is credited with giving the clone processors (like Amdahl) a market foothold.
this mentions that q&d mad rush efforts compared poorly with the
clones ... especially the 3081
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm
in any case, for the 3033, there was special MVS hardware done ... somewhat analogous to the VM/ECPS for 138&148 (and later 4331 & 4341). The problem is that 3033 (& 3081) was horizontal microcode and had been optimized to avg. one 370 instruction per machine cycle. The straight-forward move of pathlength from 370 instructions to micrcode has little opportunity for running faster ... and could even result in things running slower (because of various mode switching issues). The other issue is horizontal microcode is usually significantly much harder to program.
some of the Amdahl people claimed that the constant proliferation of MVS microcode features ... was a major motivation for them doing macrocode mode for their machines (i.e. nearly identical to standard 370 instruction set) ... which significantly reduced the effort to track the constant microcode changes for MVS. With macrocode mode ... it was then also relatively straight-forward for them to implement hypervisor support (a subset of virtual machine mode all implemented in the hardware of the machine).
It then was much harder for IBM to respond with PR/SM for the 3090 ... since it all had to be done in horizontal microcode.
other topic drift ... SLAC did their own bit-slice 370 clone that
implemented all the problem state instructions necessary to execute
fortran. they needed a large number of these machines for initial
analysis of data from collectors along the accelerator line. they
referred to it as 168E ... since it executed 370 fortran at 168 speed.
a couple past posts mentioning 168E:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#43 IBM 5100 [Was: First DESKTOP Unix Box?]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#8 The IBM 5100 and John Titor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#72 zEC12, and previous generations, "why?" type question - GPU computing
misc. past posts mentioning macrocode mode:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#44 Linux paging
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#48 Linux paging
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#9 Mainframe System Programmer/Administrator market demand?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#56 Wild hardware idea
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003o.html#52 Virtual Machine Concept
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#59 Misuse of word "microcode"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#60 Misuse of word "microcode"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#24 Description of a new old-fashioned programming language
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#14 Multicores
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#29 Documentation for the New Instructions for the z9 Processor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#40 POWER6 on zSeries?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#43 POWER6 on zSeries?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#48 POWER6 on zSeries?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#38 blast from the past ... macrocode
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#9 Mainframe Jobs Going Away
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#32 Code density and performance?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#35 Code density and performance?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#39 Using different storage key's
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#42 old hypervisor email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#33 Assembler question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#34 Assembler question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#20 Ranking of non-IBM mainframe builders?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#1 How many 36-bit Unix ports in the old days?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#3 Has anyone ever used self-modifying microcode? Would it even be useful?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#9 Has anyone ever used self-modifying microcode? Would it even be useful?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#84 VLIW pre-history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#74 Non-Standard Mainframe Language?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#96 some questions about System z PR/SM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#32 New Opcodes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#33 New Opcodes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#42 New Opcodes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#26 Op codes removed from z/10
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#27 CPU time/instruction table
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#74 z millicode: where does it reside?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#51 speculation: z/OS "enhancments"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#93 Irrational desire to author fundamental interfaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#102 Question on PR/SM dispatcher
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#92 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#3 Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#58 Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#68 Linear search vs. Binary search
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#36 The Subroutine Call
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: World's worst programming environment? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 19:51:59 -0400Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
there is recent Teletypewriter folklore thread going on in ibm-main,
some of my archived posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#20 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#21 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#22 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#23 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#24 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#25 Teletypewriter Model 33
i reference the CPS being done on the 3rd flr of 545tech sq ... by the
ibm boston programming center. as cp67 group was expanding, splitting
off from the science center and morphing into the vm370 group .... they
moved to 3rd flr absorbing the boston programming group. my memory was
that the CPS microcode was done for the 360/50 (not 360/40) ... just
double checked rochester progress report (trivia Jean Sammet was also at
boston programming center)
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/allen-babcock/cps/CPS_Progress_Report_may66.pdf
Each of these microprograms acts as a new machine instruction. They are
located in five of the eight extra planes of ROS that can be installed
in a Model 50.
... snip ...
the science center had wanted to get 360/50 to modify for virtual memory
... but found that any extra 50s were going to the FAA air traffic
control effort ... so had to settle for 360/40. There was something
about it turned out to be fortunate since the 360/40 was easier to
modify and microprogram than 360/50 ... and I believe that they were
able to do the virtual->real address translation within existing
360/40 timing specs.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/cp40seas1982.txt
Because of a rather loose cycle time this was accomplished on the 360/40
with no degradation of the overall memory cycle. In addition to the
translate function, the associative array was used to record the
hardware use and changed statue and our software noted transient and
locked conditions relative to a particular block of 4K bytes in the
memory.
... snip ...
there was also new instructions for things like loading the virtual->real association for pages as well as changing the active process virtual address space, etc. ... changing existing operations ... like LPSW to enter virtual address translation mode.
other recent posts mentioning CPS &/or boston programming center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#31 Java Security?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#8 OT: CPL on LCM systems [was Re: COBOL will outlive us all]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#10 OT: CPL on LCM systems [was Re: COBOL will outlive us all]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#11 Article for the boss: COBOL will outlive us all
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#30 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#36 Lisp machines, was What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#55 Polaroid's SX-70, the Greatest Gadget of All Time, Is 41
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#70 How internet can evolve
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#35 Some Things Never Die
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#32 Jean Sammet quotation
other recent posts mentioning cp40
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#51 Article for the boss: COBOL will outlive us all
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#52 Article for the boss: COBOL will outlive us all
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#0 What in your opinion is the one defining IBM product?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#63 The Atlas 2 and its Slave Store
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#45 Storage paradigm [was: RE: Data volumes]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#47 Storage paradigm [was: RE: Data volumes]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#67 Minicomputer Pricing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#9 IBM commitment to academia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#82 spacewar
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#3 A Brief History of Cloud Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#18 A Brief History of Cloud Computing
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 20:23:08 -0400Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> writes:
Amdahl shows his high end design could also scale down
IBM Advanced Computing Systems
https://people.computing.clemson.edu/~mark/acs_end.html
IBM management decided not to do it, for it would advance the computing
capability too fast for the company to control the growth of the
computer marketplace, thus reducing their profit potential. I then
recommended that the ACS lab be closed, and it was.
... snip ...
other recent posts mentioning ACS End
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#73 One reason for monocase was
Re: Dualcase vs monocase. Was: Article for the boss
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#46 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#47 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#65 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#67 relative speeds, was What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#19 Query for Destination z article -- mainframes back to the future
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#22 Query for Destination z article -- mainframes back to the future
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#10 The Knowledge Economy Two Classes of Workers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#18 What in your opinion is the one defining IBM product?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#26 The Big, Bad Bit Stuffers of IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#52 32760?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#1 A Complete History Of Mainframe Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#10 SAS Deserting the MF?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#13 Is newer technology always better? It almost is. Exceptions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#40 The Mainframe is "Alive and Kicking"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#44 Why does IBM keep saying things like this:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#72 Minicomputer Pricing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#83 Minicomputer Pricing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#8 DEC Demise (was IBM commitment to academia)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#73 Future of COBOL based on RDz policies was Re: RDz or RDzEnterprise developers
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 21:02:02 -0400Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> writes:
endicott did do xt/370 ... which was 68k implementing 370 instruction set ... however it used standard 370 software that was quite large and bloated (compared to software specifically implemented for pc) and did (relatively) large amounts of disk i/o. the 370 disk i/o was simulated as a record at a time at 100ms per on standard xt hard disk ... the 370 software bloat required had large memory footprint, large instruction execution, and large amount of i/o footprint ... as a result the 370 software moved to the xt/370 ran orders of magnitude slower than comparable applications specificly implemented for PC environment.
initial xt/370 (code name washington) was going to have 384kbytes of 370 memory ... a slightly modified version of vm370 running standard cms. vm370 did all i/o via interprocessor communication with cp88 running on the 8088 processor. the 384kbytes was for both vm370 fixed kernel requirements along with what was left for pageable memory running cms. the small amount of residual pageable memory resulted in significant paging activity aggravated by having to be performed on the 100ms XT hard disk. I got blamed for doing benchmarks showing the excessive page thrashing resulting in decision to delay washington by six months while it was retrofitted for 512kbytes (which only partially mitigated the severe performance problems).
the move from xt/370 to at/370 helped some because the ATs typically had faster hard disks (other characteristics didn't change).
totally separate ... I tried to get a project going that would
re-implement a 370 system from scratch that could reasonably compete
in this market .... including sponsoring this advanced technology
workshop ... old post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/96.html#4a
past posts mentioning washington, xt/370, at/370, &/or a74
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/96.html#23 Old IBM's
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#5 IBM XT/370 and AT/370 (was Re: Computer of the century)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#29 Operating systems, guest and actual
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#52 Why not an IBM zSeries workstation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#55 Why not an IBM zSeries workstation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#89 database (or b-tree) page sizes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#28 IBM's "VM for the PC" c.1984??
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001i.html#19 Very CISC Instuctions (Was: why the machine word size ...)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001i.html#20 Very CISC Instuctions (Was: why the machine word size ...)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#24 HP Compaq merger, here we go again.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#43 IBM 5100 [Was: First DESKTOP Unix Box?]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#45 IBM 5100 [Was: First DESKTOP Unix Box?]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#4 IBM Mainframe at home
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#76 HONE was .. Hercules and System/390 - do we need it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003f.html#8 Alpha performance, why?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003h.html#40 IBM system 370
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004h.html#29 BLKSIZE question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#7 Whatever happened to IBM's VM PC software?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#10 Whatever happened to IBM's VM PC software?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#11 Whatever happened to IBM's VM PC software?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#13 Whatever happened to IBM's VM PC software?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005f.html#6 Where should the type information be: in tags and descriptors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005f.html#10 Where should the type information be: in tags and descriptors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#2 using 3390 mod-9s
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#36 The Pankian Metaphor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#56 DCSS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#5 Not Your Dad's Mainframe: Little Iron
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#14 RCA Spectra 70/25: Another Mystery Computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#29 "The Elements of Programming Style"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#30 "The Elements of Programming Style"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#1 "The Elements of Programming Style"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#7 Has anyone ever used self-modifying microcode? Would it even be useful?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#25 modern paging
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#5 Is computer history taugh now?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#41 z/VM usability
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#61 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#43 Intel Ships Power-Efficient Penryn CPUs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#22 Was CMS multi-tasking?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#9 3277 terminals and emulators
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#73 Microsoft versus Digital Equipment Corporation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#33 What if the computers went back to the '70s too?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#38 "True" story of the birth of the IBM PC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#46 pc/370
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#68 New machine code
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#2 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#18 Processes' memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#20 Processes' memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#24 Processes' memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#36 Processes' memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#42 Mythical computers and magazine reviews
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#46 Mythical computers and magazine reviews
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#70 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#8 What was the historical price of a P/390?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#10 What was the historical price of a P/390?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#78 Notes on two presentations by Gordon Bell ca. 1998
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#27 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#64 JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#27 M68k add to memory is not a mistake any more
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#42 Where are all the old tech workers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#74 zEC12, and previous generations, "why?" type question - GPU computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#77 zEC12, and previous generations, "why?" type question - GPU computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#79 zEC12, and previous generations, "why?" type question - GPU computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#8 AMC proposes 1980s computer TV series Halt & Catch Fire
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#10 AMC proposes 1980s computer TV series Halt & Catch Fire
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#18 "Highway Patrol" back on TV
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 22:10:47 -0400re:
a74 hardware finally got to point where it reasonably execute standard 370 code ... had 16mbyte of real storage and 370 350KIPS ... little bit faster than 370/145 and close to more than four times faster than the xt/370 processor
old a74 announcement/description email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#email880622
i even did a little of the software for releasing a74 ... a list
of the updates in this long-winded post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003f.html#56 ECPS:VM DISPx instructions
old post a74/7437 priced at $18,100 ($52K/MIPS)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#4 IBM Mainframe at home
however significantly more expensive than i386 PC about '88
... capable of 11MIPS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_80386
following year ('89) get 486 capable of 50MIPS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_80486
dhrystone mips is prorated iterations/sec with 370/158
as base at 1MIPS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second
above lists 9.9MIPS for 386 and 54 to 66MIPS for 486
later there was p/390 rated at 8MIPS
however there was significantly increasing gap in price/MIPS between 370 and i86.
recent posts about z196 (370) at $560,000/BIPS ($28M for 50BIPS 80 processor z196) ... but avg. total revenue ibm earns on mainframe systems is $6.25 for every processor dollar ... which comes out to $3.5M/BIPS. ibm has base price of $1815 for e5-2600 (527BIPS) which can be $3.44/BIPS (a difference of million times).
recent posts mentioning e5-2600
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#35 Reports: IBM may sell x86 server business to Lenovo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#37 Where Does the Cloud Cover the Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#38 Reports: IBM may sell x86 server business to Lenovo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#51 Reports: IBM may sell x86 server business to Lenovo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#57 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#64 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#70 How internet can evolve
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#72 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#73 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#74 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#2 A Complete History Of Mainframe Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#4 A Complete History Of Mainframe Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#5 SAS Deserting the MF?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#7 SAS Deserting the MF?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#14 Tech Time Warp of the Week: The 50-Pound Portable PC, 1977
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#23 Old data storage or data base
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#43 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#49 A Complete History Of Mainframe Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#50 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#93 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#3 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#5 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#6 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#40 The Mainframe is "Alive and Kicking"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#79 Why does IBM keep saying things like this:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#80 Minicomputer Pricing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#47 Making mainframe technology hip again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#59 Making mainframe technology hip again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#60 Making mainframe technology hip again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#86 IBM unveils new "mainframe for the rest of us"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#53 spacewar
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 10:02:13 -0400Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> writes:
folklore is that Bob Evans had my wife audit 8100 and not long after it was decommitted ... part of the issue was that 8100 had a seriously underpowered (UC.5) processor
other old email reference to the MIT LISP machine project asking
IBM for 801 (risc) chips ... and Evans offering them 8100 instead
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#email790711
other old email mentioning 801
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#801
past posts mentioning Bob Evans asking my wife to audit 8100
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#75 Z/90, S/390, 370/ESA (slightly off topic)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#53 MVS History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#46 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#40 3277 terminals and emulators
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#41 someone smarter than Dave Cutler
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#70 Favourite computer history books?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#78 Mainframe Hall of Fame (MHOF)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#0 I actually miss working at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#28 Supervisory Processors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#66 Migration off mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#66 How will mainframers retiring be different from Y2K?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#53 1132 printer history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#82 zEC12, and previous generations, "why?" type question - GPU computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#57 Dualcase vs monocase. Was: Article for the boss
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Teletypewriter Model 33 Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 11 Sep 2013 07:16:49 -0700re:
translate tables were needed for terminals. 2741 & 1052 weren't actually
"ebcdic" ... their code was tilt/rotate bits for the "golf" ball
... translate tables were needed to translate between ebcdic and
tilt/rotate codes. different typeballs could require different
tilt/rotate codes ... for instance apl typeball ... i've uploaded
couple images of 2741 typeball
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aplball.jpg
i previously mentioned the clone controller project getting temporarily
messed up because of ibm controller linescanner convention of leading
bit into low-order position resulting in bit-reversed bytes. ... TTY
used ascii (as opposed to 2741&1052 being typeball control codes).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#360pcm
somewhat related is ascii history (ibm 360 mainframe originally was supposed to be ASCII machine)
EBCDIC and the P-BIT (The Biggest Computer Goof Ever)
https://web.archive.org/web/20180513184025/http://www.bobbemer.com/P-BIT.HTM
Who Goofed?
The culprit was T. Vincent Learson. The only thing for his defense is
that he had no idea of what he had done. It was when he was an IBM Vice
President, prior to tenure as Chairman of the Board, those lofty
positions where you believe that, if you order it done, it actually will
be done. I've mentioned this fiasco elsewhere.
... snip ...
more ASCII history
How ASCII Came About
https://web.archive.org/web/20180513184025/http://www.bobbemer.com/ASCII.HTM
HOW ASCII GOT ITS BACKSLASH
https://web.archive.org/web/20180513184025/http://www.bobbemer.com/BACSLASH.HTM
other recent posts mentioning 360 "goof":
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#56 New HD
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#72 One reason for monocase was Re: Dualcase vs monocase. Was: Article for the boss
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#14 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#61 32760?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#3 Ported Tools - Unix
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#49 Internet Mainframe Forums Considered Harmful
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: World's worst programming environment? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 10:49:28 -0400Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> writes:
past posts in this thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#27 World's worst programming environment?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#28 World's worst programming environment?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#29 model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#30 model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#31 model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#32 model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment?
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Teletypewriter Model 33 Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 11 Sep 2013 08:27:33 -0700lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) writes:
for other drift
Bob's history index
https://web.archive.org/web/20180513184025/http://www.bobbemer.com/HISTORY.HTM
list this under "Stories in Waiting"
The Impact of Printers upon character sets
https://web.archive.org/web/20180513184025/http://www.bobbemer.com/BC.HTM
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: Ex-Wall Street chieftains living large in post-meltdown world Date: 11 Sep 2013 Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and SecurityEx-Wall Street chieftains living large in post-meltdown world; After the Meltdown: Part one in our series looking at the impact of the financial crisis of 2008
Subprime lending execs back in business five years after crash; After
the Meltdown: Part Two in our series looking at the impact of the
financial crisis of 2008
http://www.publicintegrity.org/2013/09/11/13327/subprime-lending-execs-back-business-five-years-after-crash
Washington & Wall Street: Lehman Brothers and the Failure of
Regulation
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/10/Washington-Wall-Street-Lehman-Brothers-and-the-Failure-of-Regulation
from above:
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results." - Albert Einstein
The fifth anniversary of the failure of Lehman Brothers is generating
a lot of comment, mostly of the sort that blames the largest banks for
their evil ways. But when considering the lessons learned from the
collapse of this large broker-dealer into bankruptcy in 2008, it is
important to recognize the role of politicians and regulators in
creating this mess in the first place.
... snip ...
Richard Posner Explains SEC Refusal to Act in Lehman Brothers Case
http://my.firedoglake.com/masaccio/2013/09/09/richard-posner-explains-sec-refusal-to-act-in-lehman-brothers-case/
Inside the End of the U.S. Bid to Punish Lehman Executives
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/09/08/inside-the-end-of-the-u-s-bid-to-punish-lehman-executives/
Banks Seen at Risk Five Years After Lehman Collapse
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-10/banks-seen-at-risk-five-years-after-lehman-collapse.html
Books Related to the Housing Crash and Financial Crisis
http://www.investorhome.com/crisisbooks.htm
past posts mentioning triple-A rated toxic CDOs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
past posts mentioning too big to fail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: Money Laundering Exposed As A Key Component Of The Housing Bubble's "All Cash" Bid Date: 11 Sep 2013 Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and SecurityMoney Laundering Exposed As A Key Component Of The Housing Bubble's "All Cash" Bid
This was claimed back in 2008/2009 that it was one of the ways that the too big to fail were laundering money for the drug cartels ... then 2010 too big to fail were laundering money in other ways for drug cartels and terrorists ... possibly the first use of too big to prosecute and too big to jail.
just very small sample of too big to fail (too big to jail) money laundering from 2010
Banks Financing Mexico Gangs Admitted in Wells Fargo Deal
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-29/banks-financing-mexico-s-drug-cartels-admitted-in-wells-fargo-s-u-s-deal.html
Wall Street Is Laundering Drug Money and Getting Away with It
http://www.alternet.org/story/147564/wall_street_is_laundering_drug_money_and_getting_away_with_it
Legal Briefing: Drug Cartels Used Wachovia to Launder Money
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/03/18/legal-briefing-drug-cartels-used-wachovia-to-launder-money/
past posts mentioning money laundering
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering
past posts mentioning too big to fail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: OT: NYT article--the rich get richer Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 12:58:06 -0400hancock4 writes:
other recent bits:
Ex-Wall Street chieftains living large in post-meltdown world; After
the Meltdown: Part one in our series looking at the impact of the
financial crisis of 2008
http://www.publicintegrity.org/2013/09/10/13326/ex-wall-street-chieftains-living-large-post-meltdown-world
Subprime lending execs back in business five years after crash; After
the Meltdown: Part Two in our series looking at the impact of the
financial crisis of 2008
http://www.publicintegrity.org/2013/09/11/13327/subprime-lending-execs-back-business-five-years-after-crash
Washington & Wall Street: Lehman Brothers and the Failure of
Regulation
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/10/Washington-Wall-Street-Lehman-Brothers-and-the-Failure-of-Regulation
from above:
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results." - Albert Einstein
The fifth anniversary of the failure of Lehman Brothers is generating
a lot of comment, mostly of the sort that blames the largest banks for
their evil ways. But when considering the lessons learned from the
collapse of this large broker-dealer into bankruptcy in 2008, it is
important to recognize the role of politicians and regulators in
creating this mess in the first place.
... snip ...
Richard Posner Explains SEC Refusal to Act in Lehman Brothers Case
http://my.firedoglake.com/masaccio/2013/09/09/richard-posner-explains-sec-refusal-to-act-in-lehman-brothers-case/
Inside the End of the U.S. Bid to Punish Lehman Executives
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/09/08/inside-the-end-of-the-u-s-bid-to-punish-lehman-executives/
Banks Seen at Risk Five Years After Lehman Collapse
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-10/banks-seen-at-risk-five-years-after-lehman-collapse.html
Books Related to the Housing Crash and Financial Crisis
http://www.investorhome.com/crisisbooks.htm
Money Laundering Exposed As A Key Component Of The Housing Bubble's
"All Cash" Bid
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-10/money-laundering-exposed-key-component-housing-bubbles-all-cash-bid
This was claimed back in 2008/2009 that it was one of the ways that the too big to fail were laundering money for the drug cartels ... then 2010 too big to fail were laundering money in other ways for drug cartels and terrorists ... possibly the first use of too big to prosecute and too big to jail.
just very small sample of too big to fail (too big to jail) money laundering from 2010
Banks Financing Mexico Gangs Admitted in Wells Fargo Deal
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-29/banks-financing-mexico-s-drug-cartels-admitted-in-wells-fargo-s-u-s-deal.html
Wall Street Is Laundering Drug Money and Getting Away with It
http://www.alternet.org/story/147564/wall_street_is_laundering_drug_money_and_getting_away_with_it
Legal Briefing: Drug Cartels Used Wachovia to Launder Money
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/03/18/legal-briefing-drug-cartels-used-wachovia-to-launder-money/
past posts mentioning toxic CDOs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
past posts mentioning money laundering
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering
past posts mentioning too big to fail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:11:50 -0400Robert Swindells <rjs@fdy2.co.uk> writes:
there were a whole bunch of projects to convert majority of internal microprocessors to 801/risc ... lots of these were iliad chips ... the follow-on to 4331/4341 (4361/4381s) were going to be 801/risc, the s/38 (as/400) was going to be 801/risc, the follow-on to the displaywriter was going to be 801/risc, bunch of embedded processors were going to be 801/risc.
for various reasons, most of the efforts floundered ... for the 4381 I helped with white-paper that said chip technology had gotten to the point where much of 370 could be implemented directly in silicon ... rather than all of it being simulated.
you then found some number of engineers departing and showing up at other vendors working on new RISC efforts there.
old 801/risc email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#801
801 wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_801
John
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cocke
the follow-on to the displaywriter was 16bit (801/risc) ROMP chip running cp.r. ROMP & cp.r didn't have concept of problem/supervisor state ... everything ran in single security domain. the story was that pl.8 compiler would only produce correct code ... and cp.r would only run correct pl.8 compiled code. As a result a lot of stuff that would require supervisor/kernel calls (in other systems) could be executived with inline code.
when the displaywriter follow-on was canceled ... the group looked around
and decided to retarget to the unix workstation market and got the
company that had done the AT&T unix port for PC/IX ... to do one for
ROMP ... as AIXV2 and was eventually announced as PC/RT. One of the
things was problem/supervisor domain support had to be added to ROMP.
pc/rt wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_6150_RT
past posts mentioning 801, risc, romp, iliad, rios, power, power/pc, etc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801
801 wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_801
John
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cocke
I've periodically commented that possibly one of John's motivations was
to take 801 to the opposite extreme of the failed, hugely complex future
system design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
I've also periodically commented on "blue iliad" (first 32bit 801/risc)
being done at the IBM Los Gatos lab ... was huge, hot chip never
made it into production
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/98.html#25 Merced & compilers (was Re: Effect of speed ... )
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#66 System/1 ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#16 Computer of the century
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#60 "all-out" vs less aggressive designs (was: Re: 36 to 32 bit transition)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#39 "Soul of a New Machine" Computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#55 Multics hardware (was Re: "Soul of a New Machine" Computer?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#27 End of Moore's law and how it can influence job market
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#3 vax6k.openecs.org rebirth
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#69 unix
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#3 Ping: Anne & Lynn Wheeler
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004f.html#28 [Meta] Marketplace argument
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004n.html#21 First single chip 32-bit microprocessor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004n.html#30 First single chip 32-bit microprocessor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#37 History: How did Forth get its stacks?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#7 32 or even 64 registers for x86-64?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#31 To RISC or not to RISC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#17 MIPS and RISC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#53 Drums: Memory or Peripheral?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#56 performance of hardware dynamic scheduling
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#63 What happened to computer architecture (and comp.arch?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#20 Processes' memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#29 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#54 Processes' memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#7 "Unhackable" Infineon Chip Physically Cracked - PCWorld
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#3 "Unhackable" Infineon Chip Physically Cracked - PCWorld
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#78 Notes on two presentations by Gordon Bell ca. 1998
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#82 Notes on two presentations by Gordon Bell ca. 1998
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#83 Notes on two presentations by Gordon Bell ca. 1998
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#42 IBM zEnterprise Announced
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#82 Hashing for DISTINCT or GROUP BY in SQL
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#16 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#24 Supervisory Processors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#82 zEC12, and previous generations, "why?" type question - GPU computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#0 By Any Other Name
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#8 DEC Demise (was IBM commitment to academia)
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: OT: NYT article--the rich get richer Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:55:54 -0400Ibmekon writes:
tv business news today had somebody comment that the regulators didn't clean up the mess at the start of the century that the investment bankers created with the internet bubble ... but allowed them to move on to the real estate market (and with repeal of glass-steagall ... allowing too big to fail and allowing activites to leak into & contaminate regulated depository institutions).
over on linkedin ... i see somebody that was head of large bank examination in the FDIC that flagged a lot of the stuff and was ignored ... turned into whistleblower and paid for it. some recent
FDIC fooled Congress by not showing it was the most lenient regulator
http://govwhistleblower.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/fdic-fooled-congress-by-not-showing-it-was-the-most-lenient-regulator/
See what drove the FDIC Chief Auditor to resign after my disclosure to
him
http://govwhistleblower.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/see-what-drove-the-fdic-chief-auditor-to-resign-after-my-disclosure-to-him/
also book about the experience
https://www.amazon.com/American-Betrayal-ebook/dp/B00BKZ02UM/
misc. past posts mentioning too big to fail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
misc. past posts mentioning Glass-Steagall
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
misc. past posts mentioning whistleblower
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#whisteleblower
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: Brazilian TV show accuses NSA of spying on oil firm based on leaked docs Date: 11 Sep 2013 Blog: Google+re:
Brazilian TV show accuses NSA of spying on oil firm based on leaked
docs; Leaked Snowden files not so Fantastico...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/11/nsa_spying_petrobras_brasil/
privatizing of intelligence by for-profit companies and possible industrial espionage
with over half the people in intelligence working for for-profit companies and all the stuff about using intelligence for checking on ex's ... what so far-fetched about industrial espionage
Gems Mined from the NSA Documents and FISA Court Opinions Released
Today
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/09/gems-mined-nsa-docs-released-today
the head of IBM (google may strip trailing period from URL)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_V._Gerstner,_Jr.
leaves and becomes chairman of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Group
which then does private equity buyout of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booz_Allen_Hamilton
Spies Like Us
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/
from above:
Private contractors like Booz Allen now reportedly garner 70 percent
of the annual $80 billion intelligence budget and supply more than
half of the available manpower.
... snip ...
How Booz Allen Hamilton Swallowed Washington
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-23/visualizing-how-booz-allen-hamilton-swallowed-washington
"Succeess of Failure" culture
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/
past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failuree
gerstner posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
private equity posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: OT: NYT article--the rich get richer Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 09:59:17 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
a couple graphs from two years ago
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/09/04/opinion/04reich-graphic.html
from today ... extended to retirement inequality
http://baselinescenario.com/2013/09/12/retirement-inequality/
references
http://www.epi.org/publication/retirement-inequality-chartbook/
some past posts referencing the 2yr old times graphs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#77 Vampire Squid
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#80 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#3 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#18 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#27 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#32 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#37 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#38 Other Than In Computers, Civilization Basically Stopped Progressing In The 1960s
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#39 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#44 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#46 How do you feel about the fact that today India has more IBM employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#1 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#10 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#48 Thousands Of IBM Employees Got A Nasty Surprise Yesterday: Here's The Email They Saw
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#7 Is there a connection between your strategic and tactical assertions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#36 Race Against the Machine
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#40 Core characteristics of resilience
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#13 Cultural attitudes towards failure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#53 CALCULATORS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#85 Singer Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#39 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#65 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#73 These Two Charts Show How The Priorities Of US Companies Have Gotten Screwed Up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#44 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#64 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#15 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#65 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#7 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#15 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#77 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#91 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#33 Management Secrets From Inside GE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#50 IBM Furloughs U.S. Hardware Employees to Reduce Costs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#51 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#60 spacewar
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: OT: NYT article--the rich get richer Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:15:16 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
lots of people quoting following as even more evidence that SEC is a captured regulator (doing little nothing to reign in fraudulent and corrupt behavior on wallstreet) ... including this quote: Wow: "The S.E.C. team concluded that Repo 105 would not have been 'material' to investors"
The SEC Flacks Paint Lehman's Looters as the Victims of a "Polticial"
SEC
http://www.therealnews.com/t2/component/content/article/75-william-black/1744-the-sec-flacks-paint-lehmans-looters-as-the-victims-of-a-political-sec
The SEC Flacks Paint Lehman's Looters as the Victims of a "Political"
SEC
http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-SEC-Flacks-Paint-Lehma-by-William-K-Black--Fraud_Investors_Leverage_Political-Prosecutions-130911-621.html
The SEC Flacks Paint Lehman's Looters as the Victims of a "Polticial"
SEC
http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2013/09/sec-flacks-paint-lehmans-looters-victims-political-sec.html
Bill Black: SEC Flacks Paint Lehman's Looters as the Victims of a
"Polticial" SEC
http://iclouddna.com/59375-bill-black-sec-flacks-paint-lehmans-looters-as-the-victims-of-a-political-sec/
Bill Black: SEC Flacks Paint Lehman's Looters as the Victims of a
"Polticial" SEC
http://ewallstreeter.com/bill-black-sec-flacks-paint-lehman-s-looters-as-the-victims-of-a-political-sec-8371/
note this implies that such activity was material:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=aYJZOB_gZi0I
and
FASB changes repo accounting rule used by Lehman; Rule closes Lehman's
Repo 105 loophole
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/29/fasb-repos-idUSN2917121220110429
another reference to wallstreet has nothing to fear from
SEC regaring illegal behavior
http://nypost.com/2007/03/20/cramer-reveals-a-bit-too-much/
With all the uproar over the damage that ENRON had done
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
congress passed Sarbanes-Oxley
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
claiming that it would prevent future ENRONs (& WORLDCOMs) and
that both auditors and top executives were guaranteed to do jail time for
fraudulent public company financial reports. however, that may
have been purely facade, congressional decoy and kabuki theater
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#kabuki.theater
Even GAO apparently didn't think SEC was doing anything and started do reports of fraudulent public company financial filings last decade (and nobody doing jail time).
Sarbanes-Oxley also included provisions for SEC to do something about
the rating agencies. However, Oct2008 congressional hearings into
rating agencies had the rating agencies giving triple-A ratings for
toxic CDOs when the rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A.
Those triple-A ratings on toxic CDOs was a major factor in creating
the financial mess last decade.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
there was similar testimony about SEC not doing anything in the Madoff
congressional hearings by the person that had tried unsuccessfully for
a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff (SEC's hands were
forced when Madoff turned himself in)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff
other recent posts mentioning Lehman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#60 Choice of Mary Jo White to Head SEC Puts Fox In Charge of Hen House
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#28 Senator Sherrod Brown Drops a Bombshell in Mary Jo White's Hearing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#29 Bank Holiday In Cyprus
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#40 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#73 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#81 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#2 Too-Big-To-Fail, Too-Big-To-Prosecute, Too-Big-To-Jail, not just a problem in the USA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#22 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#29 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#36 Fed proposes annual assessments for large financial companies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#36 Ex-Wall Street chieftains living large in post-meltdown world
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Teletypewriter Model 33 Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 12 Sep 2013 12:09:01 -0700Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> writes:
Note that by the time of the 3277 emulation card upload/download being
3times throughput of 3278 emulation card upload/download ... were on same
3274 controllers (i.e. datacenters were upgrading all controllers to 3274
... but some configured to handle 3277 protocol). ... 3277 attached to
3274 ... section 7-37, 7-38
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/3270/GA27-2749-10_3270_Information_Display_System_Component_Description_Feb80.pdf
the 3174 faster processor would have helped ... but didn't eliminate the difference in 3277 coax protocol chatter versus 3278 coax protocol chatter.
a senior disk engineer managed to get a talk scheduled at the annual, worldwide, internal communication group conference ... supposedly on the subject of 3174 performance ... but opened the talk with the statement that the communication group was going to be responsible for the demise of the disk division.
the issue was the communication group was desperately trying to fight
off client/server and distributed computing and protect their dumb
(emulated) terminal paradigm & install base. the disk division was
seeing a drop in disk sales with data fleeing the datacenters to more
distributed computing friendly platforms. the disk division had come
up with a number of solutions to address the opportunities ... but
they were constantly being vetoed by the communication group ... which
had corporate strategic responsibility for everything that crossed the
datacenter walls. past posts mentioning the dump terminal paradigm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal
note that 2-3yrs earlier, the top executives had predicted that the company revenue was going to double ... mostly based on mainframes ... and instituted massive building program to double mainframe manufacturing capacity (even tho indicators were already that it was starting to head in the opposite direction) ... company going into the red in the early 90s and big decline in mainframe business.
also note these kind of battles with communication group go back even
further. my wife had been con'ed into going to POK to be in charge of
mainframe loosely-coupled architecture ... where she did peer-coupled
shared data architecture ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#shareddata
... which saw little uptake until sysplex ... except for IMS hot-standby. The lack of uptake contributed to her not staying long ... however also there were the re-occurring battles with the communication group trying to force her into using SNA for loosely-coupled operation. There would be periodic temporary truces where they said she could use anything she wanted within the datacenter, but the communication group owned everything that crossed the datacenter walls ... but they would then resume their efforts to try and force her to use SNA.
past posts in this thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#20 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#21 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#22 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#23 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#24 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#25 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#33 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#35 Teletypewriter Model 33
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: OT: NYT article--the rich get richer Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 20:44:28 -0400re:
recent list
Financial Crisis: Five Years After, 10 to Remember
http://business.time.com/2013/09/12/financial-crisis-five-years-after-10-to-remember/slide/lew-ranien/
much earlier Time list
25 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877339,00.html
3rd in series
Ex-SEC chief now helps companies navigate post-meltdown reforms; After
the Meltdown: Part three in our series looking at the impact of the
financial crisis of 2008
http://www.publicintegrity.org/2013/09/12/13328/ex-sec-chief-now-helps-companies-navigate-post-meltdown-reforms
from above:
On March 11, 2008, Christopher Cox, former chairman of the Securities
and Exchange Commission, said he was comfortable with the amount of
capital that Bear Stearns and the other publicly traded Wall Street
investment banks had on hand.
Days later, Bear was gone, becoming the first investment bank to
disappear in 2008 under the watch of Cox's SEC. By the end of the year,
all five banks supervised by the SEC were either bankrupt, bought or
converted to bank holding companies.
... snip ...
SEC chairman is on both Time's lists
past posts mentioning too big to fail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
more recent reference to SEC
The Slow Rise And Quick Fall Of The SEC's Enforcements
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-12/slow-rise-and-quick-fall-secs-enforcements
makes it all sound like obfuscation, misdirection, decoy and Kabuki
theater
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#kabuki.theater
and more directly on the inequality theme
Why Things Worst Now for the 99 Percent than In 1974: The 1 Percent
Have Stolen How Much From the 99 Percent?
http://johnhively.wordpress.com/2013/09/12/why-things-worst-now-for-the-99-percent-than-in-1974-the-1-percent-have-stolen-how-much-from-the-99-percent/
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Teletypewriter Model 33 Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 13 Sep 2013 06:36:02 -0700lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) writes:
I was working with a baby-bell to turn out some work they had done for
a 37x5 emulator, as a product. They had done a NCP emulator on
Series/1 that had significantly more function and better performance
than real 37x5. A separate feature was it also supported non-IBM,
non-SNA systems old posts discussing implementation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#67
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#70
Among other things, it told the host VTAM that all resources were cross-domain ... owned by some other VTAM ... when in fact they were "owned" by the distributed and redundant network infrastructure. RU traffic was also carried over real network. What interested IMS hot-standby was being able to create shadow sessions on the IMS hot-standby (in addition to the standard session on the active IMS system) ... so everything was immediately ready to go on the hot-standby.
My objective was to ship initially on Series/1 but very quickly upgrade
it to a (801/risc) RIOS chip implementation. The communcation group was
well-known for all sort of FUD and corporate dirty tricks ... so with
some help ... I got agreement from the largest 37x5 customer to
completely fund the whole effort (the customer claimed being able to
move to the new type1 product supported by IBM ... they would recoup
total cost in less than a year). The communication group even tried a
lot of FUD on my comparison numbers with the 3725 (see reference URLs),
however the numbers came straight out of the communication group's 3725
configurator AID on the HONE system (some of the communication group
responsible for much of the FUD didn't even know about their HONE
configurator AIDs) ... misc. past posts mentioning HONE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone
I was so confident that I even gave a detailed presentation at a fall SNA Architecture Review Board meeting. How the communication group finally was able to block the product can only be described as truth is greater than fiction.
We also crossed the communication group in their battle against
client/server and distributed computing when we came up with 3-tier
networking architecture and were out pitching it to corporate
executives. This is part of one such presentation which also contrasts
16mbit token-ring with 10mbit enet (which brought down a lot more of
their FUD on our heads)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#40
other past posts mentioning 3tier
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#3tier
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: OT: NYT article--the rich get richer Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:19:16 -0400re:
Why Zero Wall Street CEOs Are in Jail
http://www.pogo.org/blog/2013/09/Why-Zero-Wall-Street-CEOs-Are-in-Jail.html
This is a complete list of Wall Street CEOs prosecuted for their role
in the financial crisis
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/09/12/this-is-a-complete-list-of-wall-street-ceo
lots has been written about the excuses for lack of prosecution just being obfuscation and misdirection.
past posts mentioning too big to fail, too big to prosecute, too
big to jail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
old wharton school article (gone behind subscriber wall) that estimate
1000 responsible for the majority of the mess and it would go a long
way to improving the situation if the gov. could remove them from
their positions
https://web.archive.org/web/20080606084328/http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article.cfm?articleid=1933
past posts mentioning wharton school article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#32 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#44 Fixing finance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#52 IBM CEO's remuneration last year ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#66 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#89 Credit Crisis Timeline
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#4 A Merit based system of reward -Does anybody (or any executive) really want to be judged on merit?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#67 Do you have other examples of how people evade taking resp. for risk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#73 CROOKS and NANNIES: what would Boyd do?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#77 CROOKS and NANNIES: what would Boyd do?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#79 The Credit Crunch: Why it happened?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#85 Banks' Demise: Why have the Governments hired the foxes to mend the chicken runs?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#1 Are Both The U.S. & UK on the brink of debt disaster?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#11 Amid Economic Turbulence, Mainframes Counter IT Cost-Cutting Trend
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#18 Barbless
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#25 The recently revealed excesses of John Thain, the former CEO of Merrill Lynch, while the firm was receiving $25 Billion in TARP funds makes me sick
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#36 A great article was posted in another BI group: "To H*** with Business Intelligence: 40 Percent of Execs Trust Gut"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#49 US disaster, debts and bad financial management
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#53 Credit & Risk Management ... go Simple ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#54 In your opinion, which facts caused the global crise situation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#11 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#28 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#38 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#39 'WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GLOBAL MELTDOWN'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#3 Congress Set to Approve Pay Cap of $500,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#35 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#20 What is the real basis for business mess we are facing today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#27 US banking Changes- TARP Proposl
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#35 US banking Changes- TARP Proposl
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#38 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#54 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#22 In the News: SEC storms the 'Castle'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#40 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#38 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#40 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#74 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#73 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#74 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#48 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#31 21st Century Management approach?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#17 What's your favorite quote on "accountability"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#22 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#77 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#53 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#55 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#64 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#4 HSBC's Settlement Leaves Us In A Scary Place
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#73 Why DOJ Deemed Bank Execs Too Big To Jail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#8 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: Ex-Wall Street chieftains living large in post-meltdown world Date: 14 Sep 2013 Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Securityre:
Lehman Brothers collapse: was capitalism to blame?; The near-meltdown
in 2008 was a failure of contemporary economic models' understanding
of the role and functioning of financial markets
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/sep/13/lehman-brothers-was-capitalism-to-blame
or the crooks had captured many of the economists similar to how they captured the regulatory agencies.
"Inside Job" references how leading economists were captured similar
to the capture of the regulatory agencies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Job_(2010_film)
"Economists and the Powerful: Convenient Theories, Distorted Facts,
Ample Rewards" goes into the capture of economists in more detail
https://www.amazon.com/Economists-Powerful-Convenient-Distorted-Economics-ebook/dp/B01B4X4KOS/
loc72-74:
Only through having been caught so blatantly with their noses in the
troughs (e.g. the 2011 Academy Award -- winning documentary Inside
Job) has the American Economic Association finally been forced to
adopt an ethical code, and that code is weak and incomplete compared
with other disciplines.
... another quote loc957-62:
The AEA was pushed into action by a damning research report into the
systematic concealment of conflicts of interest by top financial
economists and by a letter from three hundred economists who urged the
association to come up with a code of ethics. Epstein and
Carrick-Hagenbarth (2010) have shown that many highly influential
financial economists in the US hold roles in the private financial
sector, from serving on boards to owning the respective
companies. Many of these have written on financial regulation in the
media or in scholarly papers. Very rarely have they disclosed their
affiliations to the financial industry in their writing or in their
testimony in front of Congress, thus concealing a potential conflict
of interest.
... snip ..
related past posts toxic CDOs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
and too big to fail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: The Original IBM Basic Beliefs for those that have never seen them. Date: 15 Sep 2013 Blog: IBM co/ex workers independent grouppast posts mentioning Future System and failure in the mid-70s
from: "Computer Wars: The Post-IBM World" Ferguson & Morris:
... and perhaps most damaging, the old culture under Watson Snr and Jr
of free and vigorous debate was replaced with sycophancy and make no
waves under Opel and Akers. It's claimed that thereafter, IBM lived in
the shadow of defeat
... and:
But because of the heavy investment of face by the top management, F/S
took years to kill, although its wrongheadedness was obvious from the
very outset. "For the first time, during F/S, outspoken criticism
became politically dangerous," recalls a former top executive.
... snip ...
downward slide continued until the early 90s and the company
reorganized into the 13 "baby blues" in preparation to breaking up the
company.
http://techland.time.com/2012/12/28/today-in-time-tech-history-piston-less-power-1959-ibms-decline-1992-tivo-1998-and-more/
from above:
When it comes to dominating an industry, few companies have done so
with the overpowering force of International Business Machines. From
gigantic mainframes and tiny laptops to semiconductors and software,
IBM ruthlessly called the shots for the entire industry after the
computer became a commercial item about 40 years ago. So tight was
IBM's market grip that it was practically impossible for any computer
company to do business without being tied in some way to the Big Blue
colossus.
How the mighty have fallen.
... snip ...
the board then brought in Gerstner to reverse the breakup and resurrect the company.
In the mid-80s, the top executives were predicting that the company revenue would double from $60B to $120B/annum ... mostly based on mainframes (even tho the signs were it was already starting to change) and instituted a massive internal building program to double mainframe manufacturing capacity.
A year or two later a senior disk engineer managed to get a talk scheduled at the annual, worldwide, internal communication group conference ... supposedly on the subject of 3174 performance ... but opened the talk with the statement that the communication group was going to be responsible for the demise of the disk division.
the issue was the communication group was desperately trying to fight off client/server and distributed computing and protect their dumb (emulated) terminal install base. the disk division was seeing a drop in disk sales with data fleeing the datacenters to more distributed computing friendly platforms. the disk division had come up with a number of solutions to address the opportunities ... but they were constantly being vetoed by the communication group ... which had corporate strategic responsibility for everything that crossed the datacenter walls. past posts mentioning the dump terminal paradigm
past posts mentioning the dump terminal paradigm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal
also note these kind of battles with communication group go back even further. my wife had been con'ed into going to POK to be in charge of mainframe loosely-coupled architecture ... where she did peer-coupled shared data architecture
... which saw little uptake until sysplex ... except for IMS hot-standby. The lack of uptake contributed to her not staying long ... however also there were the re-occurring battles with the communication group trying to force her into using SNA for loosely-coupled operation. There would be periodic termporary truces where they said she could use anything she wanted within the datacenter, but the communication group owned everything that crossed the datacenter walls ... but they would then resume their efforts to try and force her to use SNA.
The time article discussing splitting of IBM into 13 "baby blues" is
behind paywall but there is discussion in this old businessweek
artcile
http://www.businessweek.com/stories/1993-02-07/ibm-after-akers
above article was before Gerstner selected as replacement.
later in 90s, IBM and other large corporations lobbied to have treatment of pension reserves changed to an asset so they show up increasing corporate value and spike price/share ... motivation was that the top execs bonus plan tied to price/share. lots of top executives have their bonuses tied to stock price ... stock buybacks also boost stock price and helps make their bonuses
Stockman in "The Great Deformation: The Corruption of Capitalism in America" ... talks about stock buybacks as a mini-form of LBO (leverage buyout), with the executives reaping huge rewards,
pg457/loc9844-46:
The leader was ExxonMobil, which repurchased $160 billion of its own
shares during 2004-2011. It was followed by Microsoft at $100 billion,
IBM at $75 billion, and Hewlett-Packard, Proctor & Gamble, and Cisco
with $50 billion each. Even the floundering shipwreck of merger mania
known as Time Warner Inc. bought back $25 billion.
pg464/loc9995-10000:
IBM was not the born-again growth machine trumpeted by the mob of Wall
Street momo traders. It was actually a stock buyback contraption on
steroids. During the five years ending in fiscal 2011, the company
spent a staggering $67 billion repurchasing its own shares, a figure
that was equal to 100 percent of its net income.
pg465/10014-17:
Total shareholder distributions, including dividends, amounted to $82
billion, or 122 percent, of net income over this five-year
period. Likewise, during the last five years IBM spent less on capital
investment than its depreciation and amortization charges, and also
shrank its constant dollar spending for research and development by
nearly 2 percent annually.
... snip ...
past posts mentioning Gerstner
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
a little drift, past posts mentioning private equity companies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity
recent posts referencing "The Great Deformation":
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#5 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#13 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#23 What Makes weapons control Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#30 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#49 As an IBM'er just like the Marines only a few good men and women make the cut,
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#63 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#5 SAS Deserting the MF?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#69 What Makes collecting sales taxes Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#2 IBM Relevancy in the IT World
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#50 IBM Furloughs U.S. Hardware Employees to Reduce Costs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#51 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#57 The agency problem and how to create a criminogenic environment
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Mainframe On Cloud Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 15 Sep 2013 08:16:06 -0700Kerneels@ABSOFTWARECONSULTANTS.COM (AbsKerneels) writes:
typical cloud mega-datacenters have hundreds of thousands of systems and millions of processors ... large percentage sitting idle waiting for demand (any one of these mega-datacenters possibly have more processing power than the aggregate of all mainframes in the world today).
max. configured z196 has 80 processors, a 50BIPS processing rating and goes for $28M ... or $560,000/BIPS. IBM financials has it getting a total of $6.25 from mainframe customers for every mainframe processor dollar ... or IBM collects an avg. of $175M for $28M z196 ... which works out to $3.5M/BIPS.
i86 server chip makers are now saying that they are shipping more chips directly to the big mega-datacenters (that assemble their own systems and these volumes don't show in the server market numbers) than they ship to the brand name server makers. IBM has base list price of $1810 for a e5-2600 blade ... which have 527BIPS processor rating ... or $3.44/BIPS (a million times less than z196). however, major cloud operators claim they assemble their own systems for 1/3rd the price of brand name vendors ... which possibly brings it down close to $1/BIPS.
There are rumors that major brand name server vendors now outsourcing assemblies for major cloud operations at close to those numbers ... significantly increasing downward pressure on server margins and commoditizing the market (possibly contributing to news earlier this year about IBM trying to sell-off its server business).
the enormous drop in system costs have increased the relative percentage of other costs for operating a cloud megadatacenters ... which is major motivation for cloud megadatacenters being at the forefront of green technologies, power consumption, cooling technologies, manual administration, etc. the i86 server chip makers have been pushed by these megadatacenters for major optimization in power&cooling per computation ... as well as dropping to near zero when idle ... but being able to instantaneously come up to full operation on-demand.
an old long-winded discussion in (linkedin) "Old Geeks"
http://lnkd.in/mGd4j5
regarding this article
The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
http://www.infoworld.com/d/cloud-computing/the-cloud-killing-traditional-hardware-and-software-216963
more recent "Old Geeks" discussion
http://lnkd.in/MbiakK
regarding this article
A Brief History of Cloud Computing
http://blog.softlayer.com/2013/virtual-magic-the-cloud/
recent posts mentioning cloud computing:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#92 Continuing cloud computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#19 Where Does the Cloud Cover the Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#37 Where Does the Cloud Cover the Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#50 Where Does the Cloud Cover the Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#57 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#58 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#61 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#63 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#69 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#72 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#73 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#74 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#78 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#80 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#6 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#12 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#21 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#43 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#45 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#50 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#93 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#3 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#4 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#5 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#6 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#8 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#10 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#14 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#15 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#14 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#53 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#66 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#23 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#24 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#31 IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#32 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#3 A Brief History of Cloud Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#4 A Brief History of Cloud Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#18 A Brief History of Cloud Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#19 A Brief History of Cloud Computing
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Mainframe On Cloud Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 15 Sep 2013 12:44:09 -0700re:
latest from IBM
IBM launches NeXtScale, packs more cores in racks; Summary: The
NeXtScale System can pack up to 84 x86 systems and 2,016 cores in a
standard 19-inch one unit (1U) rack.
http://www.zdnet.com/ibm-launches-nextscale-packs-more-cores-in-racks-7000020432/
i.e. 2016 cores (processors)
previously a 1st generation e5-2600 at 527BIPS is the equivalent of 10.5 max configured z196 80 processor systems.
e5-2600 is two chips with 8processor per chip or 16 processors ... or
33BIPS/processor ... by comparison
z900, 16 processors, 2.5BIPS (156MIPS/proc), Dec2000
z990, 32 processors, 9BIPS, (281MIPS/proc), 2003
z9, 54 processors, 18BIPS (333MIPS/proc), July2005
z10, 64 processors, 30BIPS (469MIPS/proc), Feb2008
z196, 80 processors, 50BIPS (625MIPS/proc), Jul2010
EC12, 101 processors, 75BIPS (743MIPS/proc), Aug2012
... i.e. compared to 1st generation e5-2600 at 33BIPS/processor
... a first generation e5-2600 blade is still the equivalent
processing of seven max. configured 101 processor EC12
latest intel generation
Intel Shows 14nm Broadwell Consuming 30% Less Power Than 22nm Haswell
http://hothardware.com/News/Intel-Shows-14nm-Broadwell-Consuming-30-Less-Power-Than-22nm-Haswell/
other recent posts mentioning e5-2600
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#10 From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#16 From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#17 Still think the mainframe is going away soon: Think again. IBM mainframe computer sales are 4% of IBM's revenue; with software, services, and storage it's 25%
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#38 DEC/PDP minicomputers for business in 1968?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#5 mainframe "selling" points
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#6 mainframe "selling" points
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#7 mainframe "selling" points
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#8 mainframe "selling" points
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#10 FW: mainframe "selling" points -- Start up Costs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#15 A Private life?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#59 Why Intel can't retire X86
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#60 Why Intel can't retire X86
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#63 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#68 relative mainframe speeds, was What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#84 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#88 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#5 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#16 relative mainframe speeds, was What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#4 Oracle To IBM: Your 'Customers Are Being Wildly Overcharged'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#35 Reports: IBM may sell x86 server business to Lenovo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#37 Where Does the Cloud Cover the Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#38 Reports: IBM may sell x86 server business to Lenovo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#51 Reports: IBM may sell x86 server business to Lenovo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#57 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#64 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#70 How internet can evolve
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#72 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#73 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#74 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#2 A Complete History Of Mainframe Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#4 A Complete History Of Mainframe Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#5 SAS Deserting the MF?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#7 SAS Deserting the MF?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#14 Tech Time Warp of the Week: The 50-Pound Portable PC, 1977
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#23 Old data storage or data base
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#43 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#49 A Complete History Of Mainframe Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#50 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#93 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#3 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#5 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#6 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#40 The Mainframe is "Alive and Kicking"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#79 Why does IBM keep saying things like this:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#80 Minicomputer Pricing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#47 Making mainframe technology hip again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#59 Making mainframe technology hip again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#60 Making mainframe technology hip again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#86 IBM unveils new "mainframe for the rest of us"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#53 spacewar
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#31 model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment?
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: Lehman Brothers collapse: was capitalism to blame? Date: 15 Sep 2013 Blog: Google+re:
Lehman Brothers collapse: was capitalism to blame? The near-meltdown
in 2008 was a failure of contemporary economic models' understanding
of the role and functioning of financial markets
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/sep/13/lehman-brothers-was-capitalism-to-blame
or the crooks had captured many of the economists similar to how they captured the regulatory agencies.
"Inside Job" references how leading economists were captured similar
to the capture of the regulatory agencies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Job_(2010_film)
"Economists and the Powerful: Convenient Theories, Distorted Facts,
Ample Rewards" goes into the capture of economists in more detail
https://www.amazon.com/Economists-Powerful-Convenient-Distorted-Economics-ebook/dp/B01B4X4KOS/
loc72-74:
Only through having been caught so blatantly with their noses in the
troughs (e.g. the 2011 Academy Award -- winning documentary Inside
Job) has the American Economic Association finally been forced to
adopt an ethical code, and that code is weak and incomplete compared
with other disciplines.
... another quote loc957-62:
The AEA was pushed into action by a damning research report into the
systematic concealment of conflicts of interest by top financial
economists and by a letter from three hundred economists who urged the
association to come up with a code of ethics. Epstein and
Carrick-Hagenbarth (2010) have shown that many highly influential
financial economists in the US hold roles in the private financial
sector, from serving on boards to owning the respective
companies. Many of these have written on financial regulation in the
media or in scholarly papers. Very rarely have they disclosed their
affiliations to the financial industry in their writing or in their
testimony in front of Congress, thus concealing a potential conflict
of interest.
... snip ..
Five Years After Lehman, BIS Ex-Chief Economist Warns "It's Worse This
Time"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-15/five-years-after-lehman-bis-ex-chief-economist-warns-its-worse-time
Financial crisis five years later: We don't know what to do next time
http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2013/09/financial_crisis_five_years_later_we_don_t_know_what_to_do_next_time.html
Do the Democrats Really Want to Bear the Blame for a Crash that Wall
Street Will Cause?
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/09/do-the-democrats-really-want-to-bear-the-blame-for-a-crash-that-wall-street-will-cause.html
Ding Dong, the Witch is Dead, Summers Withdraws Name from Fed Chair
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/09/ding-dong-the-witch-is-dead-summers-withdraws-name-from-fed-chair-race.html
as things were crashing there were articles trying to blame economic models but appeared to be obfuscation and misdirection ... there were more articles by risk managers who said they were forced by the business people to fiddle the model inputs until they came up with the desired results (GIGO)
mortgages used to be originated by regulated depository institutions and then possibly sold to GSEs if they met various standards. that all changed when unregulated loan originators found that they could package the loans, pay the rating agencies for triple-A ratings (when both the sellers and the rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A, from testimony at Oct2008 congressional hearings) and sell them through wallstreet.
Being able to pay for triple-A rating enable loan originators to do
no-documentation, liar loans and immediately sell everything they
originated, as fast as they could originate ... they no longer had to
care about buyers qualifications and/or loan quality. The triple-A
rating opened up the market to institutions that were restricted to
only dealing in "safe" investments (like large institutional
retirement funds) and enabled over $27T to being done during the
bubble:
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-27/evil-wall-street-exports-boomed-with-fools-born-to-buy-debt
The wallstreet skim on the over $27T was significant factor in wallstreet tripling in size (as percent of GDP) during the bubble. In addition to the over $27T in CDOs ... wallstreet did enormous CDS gambling bets during the bubble (although some of these were fixed, they created CDOs designed to fail, sold them to their customers, and then made CDS bets that they would fail).
Congress had passed legislation preventing CDS from being regulated. However, Congress did pass Sarbanes-Oxley claiming that it would prevent future Enrons & Worldcoms and supposedly guaranteed top executives and auditors would do jail time. However, it may have been legislative decoy ... since it required SEC to do something (note that SOX also required SEC to do something about the rating agencies). SEC not doing anything put the head of SEC near the top of many lists of those responsible for the economic mess. Possibly even GAO didn't think SEC was doing anything and started doing reports of public company fraudulent financial filings, even showing increase after SOX passed. The congressional Madoff hearings also had the person that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff (SEC was finally forced to do something, when Madoff turned himself in).
past posts mentioning toxic CDOs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
past posts mentioning Sarbanes-Oxley
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
past posts mentioning enron
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
past posts mentioning madoff
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff
past posts mentioning "financial reporting fraud"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud.fraud
past posts mentioning congress as kabuki theater
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#kabuki.theater
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Mainframe On Cloud Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 15 Sep 2013 19:36:21 -0700jperryma@PACBELL.NET (Jon Perryman) writes:
dhrystone MIPS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second
used for these benchmarks aren't directly count of instructions ... but number of dhrystone iterations compared to the base 370/158 count ... taken to be one MIPS. there are "dhrystone mips" published for a large number of different CICS and RISC processors.
part of the issue is that RISC technologies had significant performance advantage over i86 systems for a long time ... out-of-order execution, speculative execution, branch prediction, etc ... in part compensating for increasing mismatch between processor speed and memory access latency ... current access latency to memory measured in count of processor cycles is similar to 60s access latency to disk measured in 60s processor cycles (in that sense, out-of-order execution is similar to 60s multitasking).
out-of-order exectuion in pipelines was used in 360 & 370 195 ... however, it didn't have branch prediction and/or speculative execution ... so conditional branches drained the pipeline. Specially tuned codes kept the execution units busy at peak throughput ... but most codes only ran 1/2 throughput. I got asked to help with a project for hyperthreading 370/195 ... simulating two processors ... two instruction streams had chance of keeping 195 execution operating at peak throughput ... although it never shipped.
for the past several generations, i86 server chips have moved to risc cores with hardware layer translating i86 instructions into risc micro-ops ... largely negating the throughput difference between i86 and risc.
z196 documentation claims that half of the processor throughput
improvement over z10 processor has been the incorporation of risc
out-of-order execution features ... and much of the ec12 processor
thruoughput improvement over z196 processor is addition of risc-like
improvements.
z900, 16 processors, 2.5BIPS (156MIPS/proc), Dec2000
z990, 32 processors, 9BIPS, (281MIPS/proc), 2003
z9, 54 processors, 18BIPS (333MIPS/proc), July2005
z10, 64 processors, 30BIPS (469MIPS/proc), Feb2008
z196, 80 processors, 50BIPS (625MIPS/proc), Jul2010
EC12, 101 processors, 75BIPS (743MIPS/proc), Aug2012
...
I had run precursor to dhrystone for national lab benchmark on engineering 4341
... looking at getting 70 4341s for compute farm ... sort of
precursor to GRID computing ... which has also subsequently morphed into
CLOUD computing.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email790220
note POK 3033 reaction to the 4341 numbers in some sense was similar to
some of the current mainframe FUD. at one point, POK management got the
allocation for a critical 4341 manufacturing component cut in half.
other old 4300 email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#43xx
other widely used benchmarks are TPC
http://www.tpc.org/
and SPEC
http://www.spec.org/benchmarks.html
even IBM publishes results for hundreds of such benchmarks (although not for mainframes).
trivia ... Jim Gray was largely responsible for TPC benchmarks.
https://www.tpc.org/information/who/gray5.asp
I worked with him at IBM San Jose Research before he left for Tandem
... when he pawned off bunch of stuff on me ... consulting with IMS
group ... interfacing to early System/R customers ... original
sql/relational dbms ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Mainframe On Cloud Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 16 Sep 2013 07:37:14 -0700shmuel+gen@PATRIOT.NET (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
besides dhrystone mips is number of dhrystone iterations compared to number performed by baseline 370/158 calibrated as 1 MIPS .... there were old comparisons of eggregiously heavy-weight processing by VTAM.
at the time open-system were trying to reduce TCP/IP stack pathlength from 5k instructions and 5 buffer copies ... even working on direct I/O from the application w/o buffer copy ... the somewhat equivalent VTAM LU6.2 processing had 150k instruction pathlength and 16 buffer copies. for 4k to 8k data, the buffer copies would actually take more processor cycles than the actual instructions ... and result in lots of unnecessary cache pollution (why some platforms have implemented cache bypass data moves).
the original mainframe TCP/IP stack product was done in VS/Pascal
outside VTAM. For various reasons the implementation had poor
performance getting about 44kbytes/sec throughput using nearly full 3090
processor. I did the modifications to the product for RFC1044 support
and in some tuning tests at cray research between cray and 4341 ... got
sustained 4341 channel throughput using only modest amount of 4341
processor (possibly 500 times improvement in number of bytes moved per
instruction executed). past posts mentioning doing RFC1044 support
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#1044
later the communication group contracted for a tcp/ip stack implementation inside VTAM ... the contractor initially demonstrated TCP throughput much higher than LU6.2. The communication group then told the contractor that everybody *knows* that a *correct* tcp/ip implementation is much slower than LU6.2 ... and they would only be *paying* for a *correct* implementation.
separate from pathlength there is issue of I/O. In 1980, I got con'ed into doing channel extender support for STL ... it was bursting at the seams and they were moving 300 people from the IMS group to an offsite building (unrelated to Gray con'ing me in to doing DBMS consulting for IMS group). They had tried remote 3270 support but found the human factors totally unacceptable. The channel extender support allowed putting local channel attach 3270 controllers at the remote site connected back to mainframes in the STL datacenter. Part of the support was downloading channel programs to the channel emulator at the remote site ... eliminating significant channel program protocol chatter latency back&forth between the mainframe and the remote site.
The vendor tried to get IBM approval to ship my channel extender support ... but there was a group in POK playing with some serial technology, that managed to get the approval turned down ... they were apparently afraid that having that support in the market, it might make it more difficult for them shipping their technology.
In 1988, I was asked to help LLNL standarize some serial technology they had. This morphs into fibre channel standard (FCS) ... including support for I/O programs at remote ends. Then in 1990, the POK group finally gets their serial technology shipped as ESCON with ES/9000 ... by which time it was already obsolete.
Some POK channel engineers become involved in FCS and define an
extremely heavyweight layer that drastically cuts the throughput of
the native FCS ... which eventually ships as FICON. some past posts
mentioning FICON
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon
Recent z196 "peak" I/O IBM benchmark used 104 FICONs and 14 SAPs to achieve 2M IOPS. By comparison, a recent FCS announced for e5-2600 claimed over million IOPS (i.e. two such e5-2600 FCS would have higher throughput than "peak" z196 with 104 FCS that have FICON layered on top).
The TCW enhancements to FICON appear to be similar to what I did over 30yrs ago in 1980 for channel-extender and minimizing the associated channel program chatter latency ... but appears to only slightly narrow the throughput gap between FICON layer and native FCS.
IBM numbers also has peak z196 throughput of 2.2M SSCHs with all SAPs running at 100% busy ... however, IBM recommendation is SAPs be limited to 70% busy ... or 1.5M SSCHs.
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: "NSA foils much internet encryption" Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 16 Sep 2013 09:30:45 -0700ip4work@GMAIL.COM (J.P.) writes:
as well come in to give a talk to the other technical directors in the information assurance directorate.
I was looking to get better than EAL4+ evaluation on a chip ... but NIST pulled the ECC evaluation criteria just before AADS chip strawman evaluation ... had to settle for EAL4+ because ECC was baked into the silicon of the chip. Since 90s, I was semi-facetiously saying I would take a $500 milspec chip, aggressively cost reduce it by 2-3 orders of magnitude (eventually under dollar) while improving security.
IA had presence in the X9 financial industry standards meetings ... and there were references to rifts between IA and SIGINT ... but for all I know that may have just been misdirection.
as an aside ... old reference to early jan92 meeting in ellison
conference room
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13
part of our ha/cmp product ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp
end of jan92, cluster scale-up is transferred and we are told we can't work on anything with more than four processors ... significant contributor in decision to leave. two of the other people mentioned in the Ellison meeting later leave to go to small silicon valley client/server startup. We are then brought in as consultants because they want to do payment transactions on their server, the startup had also invented this technology called "SSL" they want to use ... the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce".
we have to map SSL technology to payment transactions as well as establish a lot of security deployment and use requirements. almost immediately, several of the requirements were violated ... accounting for many of the exploits that continue to this day.
part of the work required developing something called "payment gateway"
(interface between internet and payment networks that ecommerce servers
interacted with) ... we've periodically claim it was the original SOA
... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#gateway
I was given final authority on everything between ecommerce servers and payment gateways ... but could only recommend operation between ecommerce servers and browser clients (partially accounting for drop of several security requirements).
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: "NSA foils much internet encryption" Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 16 Sep 2013 13:04:17 -0700re:
other trivia ... ECC original invented Miller at IBM Yorktown
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_S._Miller
followed by Koblitz at UofW
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_Koblitz
Miller had been in the Yorktown 801 group
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_801
... some old email mentioning 801
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#801
unrelated old crypto email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#crypto
I had been at IBM San Jose research ... and had lots of latitude
to do things around San Jose ... including allowed to play disk
engineer in bldgs. 14&15 ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk
and support world-wide online sales&marketing HONE in palo alto
... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone
also past posts mentioning original sql/relational
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr
however, I was blamed for online computer conferencing ... some past
posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#cmc
on the internal network (larger than the arpanet/internet from just
about the beginning until late '85 or possibly early '86) in the late
70s and early 80s ... folklore is that when executive committee was told
about online computer conferencing (and internal network), 5of6 wanted
to fire me. some past posts about internal network
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
possibly as part of punishment, they made me report to Yorktown ... but allowed me to live&work in san jose ... although I had to commute to ykt a couple times a month.
recent posts realizing in the late 80s that there were three kinds
of crypto
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#77 German infosec agency warns against Trusted Computing in Windows 8
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#88 NSA and cryptanalysis
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: What the Orgy of "Lehman Five Years On" Stories Missed Date: 16 Sep 2013 Blog: Google+re:
What the Orgy of "Lehman Five Years On" Stories Missed
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/09/what-the-orgy-of-lehman-five-years-on-stories-missed.html
then there is On Janet Yellen's (In)Ability At Foreseeing The
Financial Crisis
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-16/janet-yellens-inability-foreseeing-financial-crisis
securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages. Late 90s, we were asked to look at improving the integrity of supporting documents in securitized mortgages (as countermeasure to fraud). However when unregulated loan originators discovered that they could pay rating agencies for triple-A ratings ... they were then able to do no-documentation, liar mortgages ... with no documentation, there was no longer an issue of documentation integrity ... aka triple-A trumps documentation
note that the no-documentation, liar loans then also results in the robo-signing scandal ... fraudulently creating the required documentation
WRIST SLAP: Justice Dept Settles Robo-Signing Fraud Case; Criminal
foreclosure costs LPS just $30 per fraud.
http://dailybail.com/home/wrist-slap-justice-dept-settles-robo-signing-fraud-case.html
NY Court Reinstates Foreclosure, Chides Judge For `Robosigning'
Sanctions
http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2013/03/25/ny-court-reinstates-foreclosure-chides-judge-for-robosigning-sanctions/
David Stockman On 2008: "Hank Paulson's Folly: AIG Was Safe Enough to
Fail" Part 1
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-16/david-stockman-2008-hank-paulsons-folly-aig-was-safe-enough-fail-part-1
recent posts mentioning Lehman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#60 Choice of Mary Jo White to Head SEC Puts Fox In Charge of Hen House
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#28 Senator Sherrod Brown Drops a Bombshell in Mary Jo White's Hearing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#29 Bank Holiday In Cyprus
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#40 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#73 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#81 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#2 Too-Big-To-Fail, Too-Big-To-Prosecute, Too-Big-To-Jail, not just a problem in the USA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#22 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#29 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#36 Fed proposes annual assessments for large financial companies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#36 Ex-Wall Street chieftains living large in post-meltdown world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#38 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#40 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#43 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#48 Ex-Wall Street chieftains living large in post-meltdown world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#52 Lehman Brothers collapse: was capitalism to blame?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: OT: NYT article--the rich get richer Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:47:12 -0400re:
also google+
https://plus.google.com/102794881687002297268/posts/VByPXmBS8wu
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#57 What the Orgy of "Lehman Five Years On" Stories Missed
as well as
https://plus.google.com/102794881687002297268/posts/37AjpK8fJ9a
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#52 Lehman Brothers collapse: was capitalism to blame?
What the Orgy of "Lehman Five Years On" Stories Missed
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/09/what-the-orgy-of-lehman-five-years-on-stories-missed.html
unrelated, add to what's listed above: JPM's London Whale Fine: At Least
$750 Million
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-16/jpms-london-whale-fine-least-750-million
semi-related: On Janet Yellen's (In)Ability At Foreseeing The
Financial Crisis
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-16/janet-yellens-inability-foreseeing-financial-crisis
securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate
fraudulent mortgages. Late 90s, we were asked to look at improving the
integrity of supporting documents in securitized mortgages (as
countermeasure to fraud). However when unregulated loan originators
discovered that they could pay rating agencies for triple-A ratings
... they were then able to do no-documentation, liar mortgages
... with no documentation, there was no longer an issue of
documentation integrity ... aka triple-A trumps documentation
old long-winded post from Jan1999
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm
note that the no-documentation, liar loans then also results in the robo-signing scandal ... fraudulently creating the required documentation
WRIST SLAP: Justice Dept Settles Robo-Signing Fraud Case; Criminal
foreclosure costs LPS just $30 per fraud.
http://dailybail.com/home/wrist-slap-justice-dept-settles-robo-signing-fraud-case.html
NY Court Reinstates Foreclosure, Chides Judge For 'Robosigning'
Sanctions
http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2013/03/25/ny-court-reinstates-foreclosure-chides-judge-for-robosigning-sanctions/
over $27T done during the bubble
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-27/evil-wall-street-exports-boomed-with-fools-born-to-buy-debt
too big to fail, too big to prosecute, too big to jail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
toxic CDOs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
recent posts mentioning robo-signing fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#63 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#46 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#73 Why DOJ Deemed Bank Execs Too Big To Jail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#80 Why DOJ Deemed Bank Execs Too Big To Jail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#29 The agency problem and how to create a criminogenic environment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#9 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#17 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Subject: Re: Teletypewriter Model 33 Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Date: 16 Sep 2013 23:13:43 -0700Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> writes:
in the early 80s one of the two people responsible for pascal, left and did a silicon valley startup to do a fancy 3270 controller clone ... which had a bunch of outboard functions in support of real dumb terminals. a big target was the TSO market place because of the really horrible TSO human factors and response ... and they were attempting to mask as much of it as possible. however, with the advent of ibm/pcs and 3270 terminal emulation ... that market imploded and the company disolved (it was only somebody like ibm's communication group that would have thought there was something more there). They somewhat got their investment money by showing large difference between TSO and CMS ... and claiming that they could make TSO close to CMS with enhanced functions outboard in a clone controller (customers would pay real money to make TSO semi-bearable).
I periodically visited them in their digs while the controller was under development.
other trivia ... after the 3270 clone controller company imblodes, he then goes on to be VP of software development at MIPS and when SGI buys MIPS ... he moves on to be the general manager of the SUN business unit that included JAVA.
marginally related frame tale. circa 1990, object-oriented software was becoming the range in silicon valley ... Apple had PINK effort ... a new operating system implemented in object-oriented programming, SUN had similar SPRING effort. Apple spun off much of its object-oriented into Taligent which morphed into object-oriented program development environment with object classes grouped in frameworks.
We were contacted and asked if we would consider taking over SPRING and turning it out as commercial product ... I've periodically claimed that there appeared to be some amount of overlap between SPRING and JAVA
old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#email960203
and this past post has part of the description of SPRING's "client-side
interpreter"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001j.html#32
past posts in this thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#20 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#21 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#22 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#23 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#24 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#25 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#33 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#35 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#44 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#46 Teletypewriter Model 33
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: Retirement Heist Date: 18 Sep 2013 Blog: IBMersRetirement Heist
A past review of Gerstner's book
http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2012/02/10/review-of-who-says-elephants-cant-dance-by-louis-gerstner.html
Sandy is in competition with Gerstner to be next CEO of AMEX, Sandy
looses:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/05/15/why-jamie-dimons-2-billion-gambling-loss-will-not-speed-financial-reform/
from above:
Back in 1986, Dimon was the bright young protege of "Sandy" Weill,
when he was forced out of American Express in a coup de requin. Master
and servant made their way to Baltimore, Maryland, where Weill
acquired a storefront moneylending firm called Commercial Credit.
... snip ...
the above also references Commercial Credit being loan sharking
operation. Sandy (& Dimon) then go on to make other acquisitions
... eventually taking over Citi in violation of Glass-Steagall;
Greenspan gives an exemption while Sandy lobbies congress for repeal
of Glass-Steagall ... resulting in creation of too big to fail (lots
of recent news in press, because of their size they have immunity for
lots of criminal behavior resulting in references like
too big to prosecute and too big to jail). Sandy is on times short
list of those responsible for the financial mess (behind Greespan and
the person in congress Sandy was lobbying for repeal of
Glass-Steagall)
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877329,00.html
Dimon departs and goes on to be CEO of Chase ... another
too big to fail ... also recently in the news for various
financial manipulations
Jamie Dimon Told Regulators He Would Not Follow Regulations
http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/03/18/jamie-dimon-told-regulators-he-would-not-follow-regulations/
CFTC Wants JPMorgan To Admit To Market Manipulation
http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/09/18/cftc-wants-jpmorgan-to-admit-to-market-manipulation/
Back to the 80s AMEX
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Express
and KKR
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohlberg_Kravis_Roberts
are in competition for take-over of RJR, KKR wins
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._J._Reynolds_Tobacco_Company
KKR runs into trouble with RJR and hires Gerstner (social media
sometimes strips trailing period in URL)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_V._Gerstner,_Jr.
away to turn around RJR
About the same time as IBM is going into the red, AMEX does
IPO/spin-off of a lot of its dataprocessing business as "First Data"
in what was described as the largest IPO (up until that time)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Data
This has short writeup ... some of the information slightly garbled
(like joining CSC is actually joining IBM, since CSC is part of IBM)
... later I do a stint as chief scientist at First Data
https://web.archive.org/web/20190524015712/http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/stoprun/Stop-Run/Making-History/
First Data does merge with First Financial and has to divest MoneyGram because First Financial owns Western Union. With all the big influx in foreign workers sending paychecks home, by 2005 WU accounts for half the bottom line and is spun off in its own IPO. KKR then takes the remaining part of First Data private (15 years after First Data is the largest IPO, First Data has distinction of becoming the largest reverse-IPO)
after Gerstner leaves IBM becomes chairman of another large
private-equity company
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Group
which then does private equity buyout of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booz_Allen_Hamilton
Spies Like Us
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/
from above:
Private contractors like Booz Allen now reportedly garner 70 percent
of the annual $80 billion intelligence budget and supply more than
half of the available manpower.
... snip ...
How Booz Allen Hamilton Swallowed Washington
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-23/visualizing-how-booz-allen-hamilton-swallowed-washington
Treasure Islands: Uncovering the Damage of Offshore Banking and Tax Havens
http://books.google.com/books?id=u655GkaMkwgC&pg=PA216&lpg=PA216#v=onepage&q&f=false
pg216/loc4511-14:
Plenty of good firms have gone bust as a result of this offshore
debt-loading, which the New York Times in 2009 described as "a Wall
Street version of 'Flip This House.'" 48 More than half of the
companies that defaulted on their debt that year were either
previously or currently owned by private equity firms.
... snip ...
wallstreet "Flip This House" (real-estate speculators pay off their
mortgage when the house is flipped, wallstreet transfers the loan to
the sold company, they even make a profit if the company is sold for
less than what they paid)
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/business/economy/05simmons.html
Stockman in "The Great Deformation: The Corruption of Capitalism in
America" ... talks about stock buybacks as a mini-form of LBO
(private-equity leverage buyout), with the executives reaping huge
rewards,
https://www.amazon.com/Great-Deformation-Corruption-Capitalism-ebook/dp/B00B3M3UK6/
pg464/loc9995-10000:
IBM was not the born-again growth machine trumpeted by the mob of Wall
Street momo traders. It was actually a stock buyback contraption on
steroids. During the five years ending in fiscal 2011, the company
spent a staggering $67 billion repurchasing its own shares, a figure
that was equal to 100 percent of its net income.
pg465/10014-17:
Total shareholder distributions, including dividends, amounted to $82
billion, or 122 percent, of net income over this five-year
period. Likewise, during the last five years IBM spent less on capital
investment than its depreciation and amortization charges, and also
shrank its constant dollar spending for research and development by
nearly 2 percent annually.
... snip ...
past posts referencing Gerstner
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
posts referencing pensions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#pensions
past posts referencing private equity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity
past posts referencing too big to fail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
Retirement Heist - Pension Fraud Book - Ellen Schultz
http://www.retirementheist.com/
'Retirement Heist': How Firms Trimmed Pensions : NPR
http://www.npr.org/2011/09/29/140344871/retirement-heist-how-firms-trimmed-pensions
Retirement Heist: How Firms Plunder Workers' Nest Eggs
http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2011/10/19/retirement-heist-how-firms-plunder-workers-nest-eggs/
Economics - "Retirement Heist: How Companies Plunder and Profit from
the Nest Eggs of American Workers" - Book TV
http://www.booktv.org/Watch/12833/Retirement+Heist+How+Companies+Plunder+and+Profit+from+the+Nest+Eggs+of+American+Workers.aspx
Ellen Schultz Interview, Retirement Heist, Employee Pensions
http://www.aarp.org/work/retirement-planning/info-09-2011/ellen-schultz-interview-retirement-heist-author-speaks.html
When Retirees Are Shortchanged for Corporate Profits
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/18/business/when-retirees-are-shortchanged-for-corporate-profits.html
'Retirement Heist' exposes plundered pensions
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/books/reviews/story/2011-10-14/retirement-heist-book/50795990/1
Traditional Pensions are Casualties of a Retirement Heist
http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/planning-to-retire/2011/09/15/traditional-pensions-are-casualties-of-a-retirement-heist
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:08:53 -0400Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> writes:
from above reference this IBM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System/4_Pi
from above:
The name of the system is derived from the fact that the angular measure
of a complete sphere (solid angle) is 4 steradians, while the
angular measure of a complete circle is 360 degrees; hence System/4 Pi
and System/360. This implies that System/4 Pi is a version of the IBM
System/360 for the three-dimensional world of avionics.
... snip ...
also mentions 4pi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_IBM
from above:
1966: IBM System/4 Pi
IBM ships its first System/4Pi computer, designed to meet
U.S. Department of Defense and NASA requirements. More than 9000 units
of the 4Pi systems are delivered by the 1980s for use in the air, sea,
and space.[133]
... snip ...
bitsavers system/4 pi
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/4pi/Technical_Description_of_IBM_System_4_Pi_Computers_1967.pdf
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:28:32 -0400re:
there was also ibm mainframe clone 2pi ... about half I believe were sold
as rebranded NCSS 3200 .... past posts mentioning 2pi and/or ncss 3200
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#15 two pi, four phase, 370 clone
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#9 Status of Arpanet/Internet in 1976?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#76 What is the protocal for GMT offset in SMTP (e-mail) header
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#25 Mainframe technology in 2011 and beyond; who is going to run these Mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#56 Are prefix opcodes better than variable length?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#46 A bit of IBM System 360 nostalgia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#72 zEC12, and previous generations, "why?" type question - GPU computing
ncss was one of the commercial online virtual machine based service
operations (sort of precursor to modern cloud computing) some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#timeshare
ncss
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_CSS
rebranded cp67
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/CMS
as vp/css
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VP/CSS
some previous refs to two pi & four phase have gone 404 ... but live on
at wayback machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20030220165859/http://www.four-phase.org/
old BIO by somebody that worked on two pi (and vm370)
http://wireless.oldcolo.com/course/dewayne.txt
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: OT: NYT article--the rich get richer Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:40:51 -0400was posted to linkedin (closed) IBMers group
Retirement Heist
https://web.archive.org/web/20181019074906/http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml
IBM specific items from:
Retirement Heist: How Companies Plunder and Profit from the Nest Eggs
of American Workers
https://www.amazon.com/Retirement-Heist-Companies-American-ebook/dp/B003QMLC6K/
really long-winded post ... archived here
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#60 Retirement Heist
past posts in this thread
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#38 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#40 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#42 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#43 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#45 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#47 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#58 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: OT: NYT article--the rich get richer Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 10:22:53 -0400Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
past posts mentioning tax evasion
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion
total medicaid spending for 2011 slightly over $400B
http://kff.org/medicaid/state-indicator/total-medicaid-spending/
there are reports that medicaid fraud may be as high as 20% ... however it appears to be mostly medicaid suppliers (not the poor) gaming the system. fed gov. has had a program to increase fed proportion from 50% to 60% (i.e. reduce state's percentage from 50% to 40%, or state's payments a 20% reduction), if the states would institute new anti-fraud best practices measures (states run medicaid with feds providing 1/2 the funding). There were some states where the medicaid supplier industry is so strong, that anti-fraud bills wouldn't pass the legislature. The possible extra half-billion or so for the state budget ... didn't do anything for the pockets of the individual members of state legislature ... but the possible 20% anti-fraud hit to medicaid supplier industry motivated the flow of lots of lobbying dollars.
then there is 2010 CBO report that previous decade, mostly after
congress allowed fiscal responsibility act to expire (required spending
match collections), tax collections reduced by $6T and spending
increased by $6T (compared to baseline which had all federal debt
retired/gone in 2010) for a $12T budget gap. past posts
mentioning fiscal responsibility act
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act
also, the first major legislation after fiscal responsibility act was
allowed to expire in 2002 was the medicare part-d ... which the
comptroller general characterized as a long-term $40T gift to the
pharmaceutical industy which comes to swamp all other budget items.
CBS 60mins did a segment on the process ... 18 congressional members
& their staffers (from the party in power) were responsible for
getting the bill passed. Just before the final vote, they inserted a
one line sentence (that precludes competitive bidding) and prevented
CBO from distributing analysis of the effect of that change. Not long
after the bill passes, all 18 have resigned and are all pharmaceutical
industry payroll. 60mins shows drugs under part-d that cost three
times as much as the identical drugs from VA (which allows competitive
bidding). misc. past post mentioning part-d
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#medicare.part-d
past posts mentioning comptroller general from last decade ... also
referring in speeches to what congress was doing to budget after
allowing fiscal responsibility act to expire would start saying that
nobody in congress was capable of middle school arithmetic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#comptroller.general
another tale about resigning shortly after getting major legislature passed and taking job with party lobbying for the legislature
Catching On ... 22 Years Too Late. Instead, Can We Carefully Define
"Success" .. So That We Can Aim Directly At It?
http://mikenormaneconomics.blogspot.com/2013/09/catching-on-22-years-too-late-instead.html
above also has a (Boyd) OODA-loop reference
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html
Rubin co-chairman of Goldman before stint at US Treasury.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Rubin
and
http://www.marketswiki.com/mwiki/Robert_E._Rubin
Paulson also from Goldman before his stint at US Treasury last decade.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Paulson
long-winded history ... including account of take-over of Citi in
violation of Glass-Steagall; Greenspan grants exemption while Citi
lobbies for repeal (enabling too big to fail). Gramm, Greespan, & Rubin
involved in repeal of Glass-Steagall.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#60
includes reference
http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2012/02/10/review-of-who-says-elephants-cant-dance-by-louis-gerstner.html
Gramm (and wife) involved in more than repeal of Glass-Steagall
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#13
above also details how Mr&Mrs were largely responsible for CDS being
unregulated and the resulting AIG mess. however, this claims it was
Summers
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/19459-larry-summers-goldman-sacked
even more
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/127107/jon-corzine-as-treasury-secretary-would-create-goldman-sachs-royal-house/
Shortly after repeal Glass-Steagall, Rubin resigns (succeeded by
Summers) to become co-chairman of Citi. During his stint there last
decade, Citi has one of the worst records among the too big to fail
(and needed one of the biggest bail-outs). Some other Citi past history
in this long ago post from Jan1999
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm
more too big to fail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
Rubin characterized as mentor for both Geithner and Summers ... recent
post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#35
other recent reference to Bill Black
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#36
major theme is executives loot an institution requiring expensive clean up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#18
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#2
random trivia: before Rubin resigned, he would show up at the financial
industry critical infrastructure protection meetings held in the white
house annex.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDD-63
other trivia, jan2009 I was asked to HTML'ize Pecora Hearings (30s
hearings resulting in Glass-Steagall) with lots of internal
x-links as well as extensive URLs between what happened then and what
happened this time (some reference to expectation that new congress
would have appetite to do something). I worked on it for awhile and
got a call that it wouldn't be needed after all (reference to enormous
piles of wallstreet money spread around capital hill).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
it wasn't just elimination of regulation and tax collection ... but the
whole atmosphere of wallstreet lawlessness and lack of any enforcement
... contributed to putting head of SEC on many lists of those
responsible
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877323,00.html
toxic CDOs and over $27T done
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
Madoff hearings even had person that tried unsuccessfully for a decade
to get SEC to do anything about Madoff (SEC's hands were finally
forced when Madoff turned himself in)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff
in the wake of enron & worldcom
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
congress passes Sarbanes-Oxley
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
claims for Sarbanes-Oxley was that it required to SEC put top executives
and auditors in jail when it found public company fraudulent financial
filings ... but possibly even GAO thought SEC wasn't doing anything and
starting doing reports of fraudulent financial filings ... even showing
uptic after passage of Sarbanes-Oxley (and nobody doing jail time)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud.fraud
AMEX, Private Equity, IBM related Gerstner posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
past posts in this thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#38 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#40 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#42 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#43 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#45 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#47 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#58 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#63 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: Voyager 1 just left the solar system using less computing powerthan your iP Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 10:32:38 -0400Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
recent discussion of difference between cms (in some cases .11sec) and
tso (over second, in many cases well over several seconds) system
response ... as well as difference between 3272/3277 (.08sec) amd
3274/3278 (.5sec) hardware latency (although raw transfer approx. the
same, hundreds of kilobytes/sec)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#25 Teletypewriter Model 33
reference this old post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#19 3270 protocol
which has some numbers of study done shortly after introduction of 3274/3278
other posts in above thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#20 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#21 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#22 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#23 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#24 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#33 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#35 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#44 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#46 Teletypewriter Model 33
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#59 Teletypewriter Model 33
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 10:49:27 -0400Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
software use to be free ... but in large part of litigation, 23jun1969
unbundling announcement ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle
however, the company managed to make the case that kernel software should still be free.
early 70s, ibm started Future System effort
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
in large part targeted to be countermeasure to clone controllers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#360pcm
during FS ... company was killing off 370 efforts ... and the lack of products during the period is credited with giving 370 processor clones a market foothold. after FS failure ... there was mad rush to get software & hardware products back into 370 product pipeline.
also in the late 70s, there was migration to start charging for kernel software ... perceived as countermeasure to the clone processors.
i had continued to do 360/370 software during the FS period ... even
periodically ridiculing the FS effort (which possibly wasn't the most
career enhancing activity). some old email references
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email731212
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750102
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430
but the mad rush to get products back into the pipeline contributed to
decisions to release lots of the stuff I had been doing. Some of it was
directly merged into standard product and shipped. However it was
decided to package other pieces as a separate add-on kernel product
making it the guinea pig for charged for kernel software (i got to spend
time with business and legal people on software charging policies).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#fairshare
for vm/370 ... the 1980 rename to vm/sp corresponded to all of kernel
software charged for. not long later, begins the OCO-wars ... customers
trying to justify reversing the OCO decision. Some of this shows up in
vmshare archives (aka tymshare initially started offering its vm370/cms
based computer conferencing free to SHARE in aug1976)
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/
past posts mentioning OCO-wars
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005j.html#41 TSO replacement?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#57 IPCS Standard Print Service
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#34 Not Your Dad's Mainframe: Little Iron
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#14 SEQUENCE NUMBERS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#67 The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#15 Data Areas Manuals to be dropped
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#15 Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#6 Open z/Architecture or Not
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#8 Open z/Architecture or Not
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#14 hacked TOPS-10 monitors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#42 VM/370 Release 6 Waterloo tape (CIA MODS)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#45 dynamic allocation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#72 Linux versioning file system
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#0 Timeline: The evolution of online communities
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#20 If you don't have access to a mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#48 Timeline: 40 Years Of Unix
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#7 The 50th Anniversary of the Legendary IBM 1401
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#49 "Portable" data centers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#17 Personal use z/OS machines was Re: Multiprise 3k for personal Use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#19 Personal use z/OS machines was Re: Multiprise 3k for personal Use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#20 Personal use z/OS machines was Re: Multiprise 3k for personal Use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#22 Personal use z/OS machines was Re: Multiprise 3k for personal Use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#30 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#65 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#67 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#1 Honoree pedigrees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#15 Age
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#30 Philosophy: curiousity question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#87 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#56 The real cost of outsourcing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#75 pdp8 to PC- have we lost our way?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#7 Do you remember back to June 23, 1969 when IBM unbundled
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#17 Got to remembering... the really old geeks (like me) cut their teeth on Unit Record
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#33 Data Areas?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#58 An approach to Dump formatting of Control Blocks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#20 Operating System, what is it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#30 Can anybody give me a clear idea about Cloud Computing in MAINFRAME ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#31 How smart do you need to be to be really good with Assembler?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#79 Slackware
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#62 Any cool anecdotes IBM 40yrs of VM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#63 Is it possible to hack mainframe system??
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#26 New HD
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: OT: NYT article--the rich get richer Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:47:50 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
Retirement Heist also mentioned previous post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#63 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
from Retirement Heist post:
Sandy is in competition with Gerstner to be next CEO of AMEX, Sandy
looses:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/05/15/why-jamie-dimons-2-billion-gambling-loss-will-not-speed-financial-reform/
from above:
Back in 1986, Dimon was the bright young protege of "Sandy" Weill,
when he was forced out of American Express in a coup de requin. Master
and servant made their way to Baltimore, Maryland, where Weill
acquired a storefront moneylending firm called Commercial Credit.
... snip ...
above also mentions Commercial Credit was loan sharking business.
also references from post:
Jamie Dimon Told Regulators He Would Not Follow Regulations
http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/03/18/jamie-dimon-told-regulators-he-would-not-follow-regulations/
CFTC Wants JPMorgan To Admit To Market Manipulation
http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/09/18/cftc-wants-jpmorgan-to-admit-to-market-manipulation/
more from today
JPMorgan Pays Small Fine For Lying To Regulators And Manipulating
Market
http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/09/19/jpmorgan-pays-small-fine-for-lying-to-regulators-and-manipulating-market/
JPMorgan Set to Pay $900 Million for 'London Whale' Trading Scandal
http://business.time.com/2013/09/19/a-whale-of-a-fine-jpmorgan-to-pay-900-million-for-trading-scandal/
J.P. Morgan 'Whale' Fine Put at Over $900 Million
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323308504579083981560096194.html?mod=djemalertMARKET
Why the JPMorgan Settlement Falls Short
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/currency/2013/09/why-the-jpmorgan-settlement-falls-short.html
JPMorgan Fined $920 Million for the London Whale Trades
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/business/2013/09/jpmorgan-fined-920-million-london-whale-trades/69614/
JPMorgan Agrees to Pay $920 Million in Fines Over Trading Loss
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/09/19/jpmorgan-chase-agrees-to-pay-920-million-in-fines-over-trading-loss/
and
Marc Faber Warns "The Endgame Is A Total Collapse - But From A Higher
Diving Board Now"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-18/marc-faber-warns-endgame-total-collapse-higher-diving-board-now
As Bernanke Blows A Bigger Bubble, Everything Is Bought
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-18/bernanke-blows-bigger-bubble-everything-bought
The Myth of Financial Reform
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2151806,00.html
past posts too big to fail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
past posts glass-steagall
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
past posts mentioning Gerstner
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
posts referencing pensions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#pensions
other past posts mentioning Commercial Credit reference:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#9 JPM LOSES $2 BILLION USD!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#16 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#82 How do you feel about the fact that today India has more IBM employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#87 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#45 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#79 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#31 History--punched card transmission over telegraph lines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#32 Does the IBM System z Mainframe rely on Obscurity or is it Security by Design?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#60 Today in TIME Tech History: Piston-less Power (1959), IBM's Decline (1992), TiVo (1998) and More
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#35 Ex-Bailout Watchdog: JPMorgan's Actions "Entirely Consistent With Fraud"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#76 IBM Spent A Million Dollars Renovating And Staffing Its Former CEO's Office
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#19 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#42 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#79 As an IBM'er just like the Marines only a few good men and women make the cut,
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#2 IBM Relevancy in the IT World
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#28 Flag bloat
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#29 The agency problem and how to create a criminogenic environment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#31 China mulls probe into IBM, Oracle, EMC after NSA hack claims - report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#57 The agency problem and how to create a criminogenic environment
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: OT: NYT article--the rich get richer Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 15:08:20 -0400Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
one wonders how many members of congress would have got caught up in the sweep of 52,000 wealthy americans guilty of tax evasion. there were some articles estimating between $21T and $30T is involved, including individuals, corporations and worldwide
some recent news on the tax evasion industry
From West Africa to Tibet, new locales enter the offshore secrecy market
http://www.icij.org/blog/2013/09/west-africa-tibet-new-locales-enter-offshore-secrecy-market
from above:
In most of the world, offshore tax havens are facing dark days. In June,
members of the G8 agreed to crack down on offshore tax evasion, and
further reforms are expected at a G20 summit this month. Even some of
the world's best known tax shelters are starting to change their
ways: the British Virgin Islands just entered talks with the US Treasury
on compliance with US tax law, and the Swiss government just approved an
agreement for Swiss banks to pay hefty fines for sheltering tax
fugitives.
... snip ...
other recent posts mentioning articles from the icij.org website:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#27 Secrecy for Sale: Inside the Global Offshore Money Maze
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#28 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#46 Secrecy for Sale: Inside the Global Offshore Money Maze
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#95 Secrecy for Sale: Inside the Global Offshore Money Maze
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#6 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#11 Secrecy for Sale: Inside the Global Offshore Money Maze
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#13 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#69 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#3 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#19 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 13:10:42 -0400"Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
my 1st undergraduate programming job was porting 1401 MPIO (tape<->reader/printer/punch) to 360/30. 1401 was front-end for 709 ibsys that ran tape->tape (tapes were moved back and forth between 1401 and 709 drives). the 360/30 was part of transition replacing 709/1401 with 360/67 for running tss/360. the 360/30 had 1401 hardware emulation and could run 1401 MPIO natively ... so my task was possibly just getting 360 experience.
It was eventually box of cards (2000) with conditional assembly for stand-alone (IPL from reader) and run under os/360. The stand-alone took around 30mins to assemble under os/360 pcp release 6 on 360/30. The OS/360 version took an hour to assemble ... the os/360 had five DCB macros that took six minutes each to assemble (it was possible to recognize in the front panel lights when it was processing DCB macro).
the datacenter shutdown on weekends ... so I got the whole place from 8am sat to 8am monday (made monday classes a little hard). I learned that the 1st thing when I came in was to do maintenance on tapes and unit record equipment ... cleaning tape drives, taking apart 2540 reader/punch and cleaning everything, etc.
past posts in thread
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#29 model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#30 model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#31 model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#32 model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#39 model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#61 model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#62 model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#66 model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment?
past posts mentioning MPIO
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/93.html#15 unit record & other controllers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/93.html#17 unit record & other controllers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/93.html#23 MTS & LLMPS?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#53 How Do the Old Mainframes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/98.html#9 ** Old Vintage Operating Systems **
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/98.html#15 S/360 operating systems geneaology
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#59 Living legends
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#130 early hardware
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#79 Mainframe operating systems
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000c.html#11 IBM 1460
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#34 Assembly language formatting on IBM systems
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#11 IBM 1142 reader/punch (Re: First video terminal?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#22 HELP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#27 HELP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#31 Is anybody out there still writting BAL 370.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#13 Infiniband's impact was Re: Intel's 64-bit strategy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#15 Infiniband's impact was Re: Intel's 64-bit strategy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002f.html#47 How Long have you worked with MF's ? (poll)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002f.html#48 How Long have you worked with MF's ? (poll)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002m.html#3 The problem with installable operating systems
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002o.html#19 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003h.html#30 Hardware support of "new" instructions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#8 A Dark Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#12 Which monitor for Fujitsu Micro 16s?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#51 Oldest running software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#41 When nerds were nerds
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004d.html#10 IBM 360 memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004g.html#39 spool
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004k.html#40 Vintage computers are better than modern crap !
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#66 Will multicore CPUs have identical cores?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005c.html#54 12-2-9 REP & 47F0
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005g.html#52 Software for IBM 360/30
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#3 Data communications over telegraph circuits
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#2 Mount a tape
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#43 Binder REP Cards (Was: What's the linkage editor really wants?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006l.html#64 Large Computer Rescue
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#1 The System/360 Model 20 Wasn't As Bad As All That
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#38 Design life of S/360 components?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#31 Decimal FP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#51 IBM S/360 series operating systems history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#52 ANN: Microsoft goes Open Source
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#73 Operating systems are old and busted
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#59 IBM System/360 DOS still going strong as Z/VSE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#17 Usefulness of bidirectional read/write?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#77 Usefulness of bidirectional read/write?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#47 IBM 029 keypunch -- 0-8-2 overpunch -- what hex code results?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#18 Magnetic tape storage
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#19 Magnetic tape storage
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#71 IBM tried to kill VM?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#55 1401's in high schools?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#67 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#19 greenbar
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#12 IBM Mainframe: 50 Years of Big Iron Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#41 Book on Poughkeepsie
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#52 IBM 1401
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#56 Punched Card Combinations
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#38 33 Years In IT/Security/Audit
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#74 The 50th Anniversary of the Legendary IBM 1401
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#56 You know you've been Lisp hacking to long when
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#25 PDP-10s and Unix
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#73 OT: PC clock failure--CMOS battery?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#22 history of RPG and other languages, was search engine history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#18 How many mainframes are there?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#38 IBM 029 service manual
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#78 Software that breaks computer hardware( was:IBM 029 service manual )
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#66 PL/1 as first language
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#11 Rare Apple I computer sells for $216,000 in London
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#73 Multiple Virtual Memory
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#79 Mainframe technology in 2011 and beyond; who is going to run these Mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#53 You almost NEVER see these for sale, own a 360 console
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#70 History of byte addressing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#80 Got to remembering... the really old geeks (like me) cut their teeth on Unit Record
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#15 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#17 Got to remembering... the really old geeks (like me) cut their teeth on Unit Record
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#17 Last card reader?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#84 Scanning JES3 JCL
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#56 IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#7 PCP - memory lane
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#98 Burroughs B5000, B5500, B6500 videos
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#21 IEBPTPCH questions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#98 PDP-10 system calls, was 1132 printer history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#33 360/20, was 1132 printer history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#4 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
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From: lynn@garlic.com Subject: 50,000 x86 operating system on single mainframe Date: 20 Sep 2013 Blog: Enterprise Systemswhy me. 1988 i was asked to help LLNL standardize some serial technology they had .... that includied supporting connections to the desktop. This morphs into fiber channel standard (FCS) Later some pok channel engineers get involved and define a heavyweight protocol layer ontop of FCS that drastically cuts the throughput of native FCS ... this eventually comes out as FICON. More recent there was z196 "peak" I/O benchmark that got 2M IOPS with 104 FICON. Also numbers are z196 SAPs peak at 2.2M SSCHs/sec with all running at 100% busy ... but recommends SAPs be kept to no more than 70% busy or 1.5M SSCHs/sec. There was also recently announced FCS for e5-2600 claiming over million IOPS ... or two such FCS would do more IOPS than peak z196 i/o benchmark with 104 FCS with FICON running on top.
past posts mentioning FICON
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon
IBM has had base price for e5-2600 blade of $1815 ... and e5-2600 have rating of 527BIPS ... or $3.44/BIPS. Max configured 80processor z196 goes for $28M and has rating of 50BIPS or $560,000/BIPS. Large cloud megadatacenters around the world have hundreds thousands of systems and millions of processors ... any one of them more processing than the aggregate of all mainframes in the world today.There have been comments that more x86 server chips are going to the big cloud megadatacenters than are going to the brand name server venders (possibly accounting for news earlier this year about ibm trying to unload its x86 server venders) ... and it doesn't show up in the server market numbers. Big cloud vendors are also claiming they assemble their own systems for 1/3rd the price of brand name vendors ... or possibly $1/BIPS
additional e5-2600 benchmarks including vm
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/benchmarks/server/xeon-e5-2600-v2/xeon-e5-2600-v2-summary.html
... oh and IBM packing even more in racks ....IBM launches NeXtScale,
packs more cores in racks; Summary: The NeXtScale System can pack up
to 84 x86 systems and 2,016 cores in a standard 19-inch one unit (1U)
rack.
http://www.zdnet.com/ibm-launches-nextscale-packs-more-cores-in-racks-7000020432/
part of the issue is that risc technologies have had significant throughput advantage over x86 for decades ... however, the last several generations of x86 chips have gone to risc cores with hardware layer that translates x86 instructions into risc micro-ops for execution ... largely mitigating the difference.
Even mainframes ... the claim is that in the z10 to z196 change, half
the per processor performance improvement is adding risc-like features
of out-of-order execution, branch prediction, and speculative
execution ... with further refinements accounting for additional
z196->ec12 per processor improvement
z900, 16 processors, 2.5BIPS (156MIPS/proc), Dec2000
z990, 32 processors, 9BIPS, (281MIPS/proc), 2003
z9, 54 processors, 18BIPS (333MIPS/proc), July2005
z10, 64 processors, 30BIPS (469MIPS/proc), Feb2008
z196, 80 processors, 50BIPS (625MIPS/proc), Jul2010
EC12, 101 processors, 75BIPS (743MIPS/proc), Aug2012
Note the 527BIPS number was for original e5-2600 (2chips, 8cores/chip,
16cores) or the equivalent of 10.5 max. configured 80 processor z196
(@50BIPS) or seven max configured 101 processor ec12 (@75BIPS). the
IBM NeXtScale references 84 systems & 2016cores or 24cores/system is
e5-2600-v2 mentioned in the Intel benchmark numbers (move from 22nm to
14nm) and 8core/chip version is 10-20% faster (for the v2 8cores/chip)
... but the 12core/chip could be better than 50% faster ... or around
800BIPS.
84 such systems would be over 6.5TIPS or 1328 max configured 80 processor z196 systems (@50BIPS) ... or around 900 max configured 101 processor ec12 systems (@75BIPS). Recent IBM financials has it selling the equivalent of approx 180 max. configured z196 per year (@$28M) ... or one such 84 system x86 NeXtScale is approx. processing equivalent of over seven years worth of z196 processor sales.
recent posts mentioning e5-2600:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#10 From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#16 From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#17 Still think the mainframe is going away soon: Think again. IBM mainframe computer sales are 4% of IBM's revenue; with software, services, and storage it's 25%
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#38 DEC/PDP minicomputers for business in 1968?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#5 mainframe "selling" points
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#6 mainframe "selling" points
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#7 mainframe "selling" points
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#8 mainframe "selling" points
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#10 FW: mainframe "selling" points -- Start up Costs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#15 A Private life?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#59 Why Intel can't retire X86
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#60 Why Intel can't retire X86
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#63 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#68 relative mainframe speeds, was What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#84 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#88 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#5 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#16 relative mainframe speeds, was What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#4 Oracle To IBM: Your 'Customers Are Being Wildly Overcharged'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#35 Reports: IBM may sell x86 server business to Lenovo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#37 Where Does the Cloud Cover the Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#38 Reports: IBM may sell x86 server business to Lenovo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#51 Reports: IBM may sell x86 server business to Lenovo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#57 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#64 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#70 How internet can evolve
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#72 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#73 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#74 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#2 A Complete History Of Mainframe Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#4 A Complete History Of Mainframe Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#5 SAS Deserting the MF?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#7 SAS Deserting the MF?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#14 Tech Time Warp of the Week: The 50-Pound Portable PC, 1977
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#23 Old data storage or data base
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#43 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#49 A Complete History Of Mainframe Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#50 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#93 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#3 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#5 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#6 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#40 The Mainframe is "Alive and Kicking"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#79 Why does IBM keep saying things like this:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#80 Minicomputer Pricing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#47 Making mainframe technology hip again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#59 Making mainframe technology hip again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#60 Making mainframe technology hip again
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#86 IBM unveils new "mainframe for the rest of us"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#53 spacewar
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#31 model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#50 Mainframe On Cloud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#51 Mainframe On Cloud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#53 Mainframe On Cloud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#54 Mainframe On Cloud
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Subject: Re: OT: NYT article--the rich get richer Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 09:32:15 -04005 Years After the Financial Crisis, The Big Banks Are Still Committing Massive Crimes
too big to fail are also too big to prosecute and too big to jail
and
Forbes Calls Goldman CEO Lloyd Blankfein Holier Than Mother Teresa
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/forbes-calls-goldman-ceo-holier-than-mother-teresa-20130920
Obama taps Goldman Sachs executive as ambassador to Canada
http://www.publicintegrity.org/2013/09/19/13446/obama-taps-goldman-sachs-executive-ambassador-canada
recent Goldman reference in thread
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#64 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
joke has been that US Treasury is Goldman's branch office in DC
other recent posts mentioning Goldman and/or various former Goldman executives
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#2 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#23 AIG may join bailout lawsuit against U.S. government
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#50 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#66 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#28 Neil Barofsky: Geithner Doctrine Lives on in Libor Scandal
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#41 Adair Turner: A New Debt-Free Money Advocate
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#76 Capitalism is so broken it can't be fixed Commentary: Saving capitalism will not save America
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#55 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#40 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#73 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#9 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#19 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#42 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#31 Fed proposes annual assessments for large financial companies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#58 Traders Said to Rig Currency Rates to Profit Off Clients
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#59 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#3 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#22 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#73 Why DOJ Deemed Bank Execs Too Big To Jail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#10 What Makes Infrastructure investment not bizarre
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#12 What Makes Infrastructure investment not bizarre
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#28 Flag bloat
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#29 The agency problem and how to create a criminogenic environment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#30 Why DOJ Deemed Bank Execs Too Big To Jail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#35 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#57 The agency problem and how to create a criminogenic environment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#13 Jack Lew Shows His True Colors By Forcing Deregulation of Derivatives on the CFTC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#17 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#57 What the Orgy of "Lehman Five Years On" Stories Missed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#67 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
other posts in this thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#38 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#40 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#42 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#43 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#45 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#47 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#58 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#63 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#68 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
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